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    Hi Shirley
    the important thing is that you are aware, you will always be aware.
    Keep it simple. That which looks through the eyes is exactly the same as looked through the eyes the first time they opened. That existed before Shirley and will exist after Shirley is no more.
    If you really think about it you do not feel any older -- wiser yes, older no.
    We really just observe things going on.
    It was a big Ah Ha moment when I was playing in the band as a teenager, all of a sudden I realized I was watching my hands move hearing the sounds of my bass but I was not consciously doing it. My thought was Am I playing the guitar or is it playing me?
    Kundalini will burn of all past karma one way or another. Just surrender to what happens and enjoy the ride though it is bumpy at times.

    We are waves of the Divine Ocean individual streams of consciousness
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    The last question deserves a little more in the way of answer.
    Take it that we are all atoms in movement each soul having a unique vibration with the potential to evolve to a higher vibration..
    When this earth is let behind we find our selves not judged at all regardless of the vibration we are at..
    God sets things up in total fairness.
    If we have reached the high vibration frequency of the state of enlightenment (freedom from ignorance) then we head off to higher celestial realms to progress further on our journey back home.
    Those who have not reached that vibration on the death of the body will go to a heaven corresponding to their vibration, Its totally automatic, Jesus said in my Fathers House are many mansions.
    There is no judgment needed. its Karmic, that which you do moment to moment adjusts your vibrancy either up or down.

    Nothing goes unnoticed. A murderer may not be caught but that act lowers the vibration and consequently on death he/she will not find themselves in a pleasant place. No one gets of scott free, there is no need for us to get even or punish, though it is safer to imprison some for the protection of all.
    We all get our just deserts as the saying goes.

    We can usefully make a spritual intention to be kind to all life including our own no matter what.

    I sometimes smile at the comments about spirituality,
    It very practical, its not about feel good, wish washy hearts and roses. Its balanced head and heart.
    Its some times tough love, its self discipline, its real compassion. Its realistic. It seeks to serve the community before self.
    Its certainly not head in the sand, its enjoying life to the full moment by moment.
    It does what it takes to get the job done and yes some times that is sitting on a park bench being totally at peace with the world and everything in it.
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    My friends, thank you for your support in making this world a better place for all.
    I would like to share this fine video with everybody that visits here.

    Unity Consciousness
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    Free your mind, and open your heart to LOVE.
    You'll then become enlightened able to just BE.

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    Thanks for sharing the video Dan

    The reason I am attracted to the teachings of DH is that he is so down to earth.
    He said
    "Many more would have been enlightened by now if they hadn't put their teacher on a pedestal.
    The teacher has a responsibility to the students not the other way around."

    Think that says it all.
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    ”What the ego cannot lift with all its might is like a feather to the Grace of God.” (Transcending the Levels of Consciousness, p. 56) David R. Hawkins, M.D., Ph.D.



    “Straight and narrow is the path…Waste no time.”--- Dr. David R. Hawkins
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    It can be quite confusing/
    The watter is muddied by excessive analyzing spiritual teaching.
    All teachers say the ego must be transcended - then disagree as to how to go about it.
    When one commits to seeking God through the path of enlightenment then all that is not of God comes up within you to be recognized made friends with and let go of.
    Its not you but part of the ego and you/we are responsible for its actions.
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    A Course in Miracles
    Is one of the greatest tools for removing all conditioning, programing, fear.
    The daily lessons are simple but not easy.
    Lesson 34 I could see peace instead of this
    ( I could see peace in this situation instead of what I now see.)

    I went to a study group at The Findhorn Foundation for over a year.
    They were the most peace loving free, compassionate, individuals I have ever met.
    Several had been members of the Foundation for over twenty years.
    People from all over the world would come to Findhorn for a few weeks and appear at the study group.
    They all had similar stories of how the lessons had improved their lives greatly.

    The ego hates the course because it give one freedom in the place that really counts --- in the mind.
    No agitation just right action, compassion.
    The course is very clear, we are all Christ, we are all one. We never left that oneness.

    Its very easy to see whether something is life supporting or other wise.
    You can tell by the fruits.
    Are the people associated with the teaching at ease, free to express themselves, do they have peace of mind?
    Do they express peace love and harmony and act accordance with that?
    I have found that with very few exceptions (newcomers) all students without exception have expressed gratitude for the insights the course has given them, it has literaliy changed their lives for the better.

    I laugh when I see people who have never had direct experience of the course, via a study group, knocking it.
    They are taking some one else's word invariably and who is programed now?
    Whos teachers preach separation? -- claim you sovereignty sounds great but in reality only God is Sovereign.
    We are all equal in that fullness.
    The last resort of the ego is specialness.
    Thats a quote from A Course in Miracles.
    We are all One. Specialness promotes superiority, Edge God Out.

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    Co creator sounds good.
    We have done great as creators so far, 95% of history is about War. Nothing to do with a Loving God.
    We are great creators? I dont think.
    The vanity of man.

    One simple question.
    Did you co-create you?
    Did you co-create the air that you breath and every other thing that you need just to survive?
    No God did freely for our benefit.
    The ego loves to think it could create a better world, It was given the chance and what is the result?
    The starving of other countries the wars you name it all human greed, not sharing, all down to the "me first" attitude of the ego.
    When the individual is aligned with God great things happen.
    Beautiful art, uplifting music, all thats is life supporting.
    Everything that the ego creates is toxic and life threatening.

    Being humble before God is nothing other than healthy respect for our Father.
    Do we expect respect from our children?
    Do we get it?
    Did we give respect to I am That which created us and gives us everything we need?

    My experience is. What we give we get.

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    The Abraham teachings (Ester and Jerry Hicks) are well worth looking in to.
    Getting in the vortex and going with the stream well explained.
    Its about aligning one self with your true, self Higher Self.
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    My understanding of the Ego is that it is NOT mans own voice in his head it is a 3rd party voice. Just as you hear the voice of reason as a 3rd party voice. Why do I say 3rd party? Because you can converse with the voices.
    The ego voice is the one that makes no logical sense to me there for it is not my own because I am a logical thinker.
    Long story short I've lived my life of love... I lived by my heart helping others caring sharing ect and yet I got negative feedback, it made no sense , it was as if I was cursed. So I set off on a path to understand everything about the world. I began to learn. I spent my life learning instead of working. During my experiences I began to realize that the curse and voice I had around me was the voice of The Nephilim / Fallen Angels / Anakim / Anti-Christ.
    And they do not just interfere with mans minds whispering words but they also effect mans will.

    Have you seen Donnie Darko? This concept is in that film. Very well done movie.
    The "beast/bunny/frank/ego" talks to Donnie and makes Donnie do bad deeds.
    Donnie even states to frank "why did you make me flood the school?" The basic concept about "frank the ego" in this movie is true.
    Come judgment day you will all see what the Ego truly is.

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    Fear of judgment day is just another religious concept.
    My thoughts of the moment are.

    Fear of God
    A loving God does not judge you as a sinner and then throws you into the pits of hell.

    We are judge and jury we choose our own destination after death.

    My understanding of the way it automatically happens is.

    Through every choice, decision, action, we influence our spiritual vibration, then we either move closer to God or further away.
    When we die we are the sum total of all these thoughts words and deeds and therefore have a unique spiritual vibration.
    If the vibration is high (light and rapid positive) we move to celestial realms. In my Fathers house are many mansions.
    If the vibration is low, (heavy negative and slow) we move to more dense realms.
    Every action has consequences.
    Fear is not of God. He doent need it.
    Love attracts fear repels.
    Accepting that those of a low vibration turn it upside down, They fear love.
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    I did not state that Judgment day was Judgment, it is placement. Thus it depends on how you perceive it.
    It is to separate the positives from the negatives. To place them with other like minded/spirited people. Not to judge them.
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    Quote Posted by Astar Of David (here)
    I did not state that Judgment day was Judgment, it is placement. Thus it depends on how you perceive it.
    It is to separate the positives from the negatives. To place them with other like minded/spirited people. Not to judge them.
    Didn't quote you Astar as my thoughts are in line with yours, you just triggered what I wrote, which is aligned to your point of view.
    Just thanked you for your post without referring to it..

    Sorry if you thought I had miss-understood.

    I like the word placement.

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    My understanding of the Ego is that it is NOT mans own voice in his head it is a 3rd party voice.

    And they do not just interfere with mans minds whispering words but they also effect mans will.
    there are thoughts

    which are like threads weaving a veil

    to obscure Reality

    interference of external emotions and thoughts

    happens all the time

    some more forceful and powerful than others

    so it's good to be aware and vigilant of this

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    My understanding of the Ego is that it is NOT mans own voice in his head it is a 3rd party voice. Just as you hear the voice of reason as a 3rd party voice. Why do I say 3rd party? Because you can converse with the voices.
    The ego voice is the one that makes no logical sense to me there for it is not my own because I am a logical thinker.
    A picture's worth a thousand words.

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    You'll then become enlightened able to just BE.

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    Thanks Dan I see we are all home here once again now where is Beren?
    He owes me a pint of ginger beer.
    It would be great if Celine and Kriya could join us.
    The good wolf is well fed in all of us.
    Oh thats ego Lol
    Its a smart animal it can sneak in with out you being aware, but I caught it this time.
    Thanks to all contributors here. You make my day.
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    Quote Posted by truthseekerdan (here)
    A picture's worth a thousand words.
    that is a nice picture Dan and so true

    the wolves want the attention of the will

    it is in our hands to feed or starve the vices and the virtues

    so it's no excuse to say the devil made me do it

    in time the starving wolf will leave

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    Thanks Dan I see we are all home here once again now where is Beren?
    He owes me a pint of ginger beer.
    It would be great if Celine and Kriya could join us.
    The good wolf is well fed in all of us.
    Oh thats ego Lol
    Its a smart animal it can sneak in with out you being aware, but I caught it this time.
    Thanks to all contributors here. You make my day.
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    Hello to everyone specially you Chris , I am just stopping by to say hi . Getting out of the vicious cycle of blame to that of self responsibility is the way in my opinion to nip our ego in the beehive. I ask myself each and everyday how could I become a contributor to my environment and surrounding to give thanks for all the beautiful things we are provided for each day. This Earth is here for the enjoyment of all and I give thanks to it for supplying us with the oxygen we breath, the food we eat the beautiful scenery that surrounds us . By raising our consciousness and the power of our hearts we can help to protect our temporary home, Mother Earth, after all we are the guest, this planet has been a very gracious host to the human race.

    Many many blessings to all.

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    Quote Posted by frank samuel (here)
    Hello to everyone specially you Chris , I am just stopping by to say hi . Getting out of the vicious cycle of blame to that of self responsibility is the way in my opinion to nip our ego in the beehive. I ask myself each and everyday how could I become a contributor to my environment and surrounding to give thanks for all the beautiful things we are provided for each day. This Earth is here for the enjoyment of all and I give thanks to it for supplying us with the oxygen we breath, the food we eat the beautiful scenery that surrounds us . By raising our consciousness and the power of our hearts we can help to protect our temporary home, Mother Earth, after all we are the guest, this planet has been a very gracious host to the human race.

    Many many blessings to all.
    Oh Frank I am really glad you turned up.
    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
    Everything that you so lovingly express is a reflection of you own self.
    Its good to be back here doing a bit of sharing
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