Enlightenment: The Ego, what is it? How to transcend it.

[greybeard]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hEtoaufYDbM

[Wind]

Why does complete discovery
of the Self take so long?
Perhaps because of arrogance.
Arrogance can emerge in such subtle ways,
maybe like, ‘I have finally done it!'
'Now that I am free, I can do pretty much
whatever I want. Nothing can touch me.’
'I just want to save everyone in the world.'
'Lord, thank you for making me so humble.’
In innumerable ways he can come.
And this arrogance is a poison.
It was said in the biblical scriptures
that Satan himself was of the heavenly kingdom
and was driven out because of his arrogance.
Arrogance brings in separation from the Oneness.
Yet we must never think that we are free of arrogance.
This is one of the ways to start transcending him.
In fact, freedom means to be free of arrogance.

~ Mooji

[Wind]

How rare it is in the human kingdom
that beings are aware of that silence,
that space that is unmoving, that does not age,
it does not grow, it doesn’t expand or contract,
and yet everything that moves, that appears or disappears,
take their birth from Here.
Your calling is to discover this consciously, powerfully.
Only then will you be able to face the storms
that come from the body-mind identity,
and the psychological noise that comes from personhood.
You will see through all of these things.
They will not overwhelm you anymore.
I want to remind you that it is possible
to be free of such states.
It is not difficult to awaken to the True.
What seems difficult is to overcome the reflex
to go back into the old regime of identity
—that will happen for a time.
The tendency to want to protect our projections and attachments will in fact create this feeling of separation
and will slow you down.
But don’t despair!
All of this is going somewhere very beautiful.
And where is that? To You. Right Here.
Sitting inside the heart of your own Being.
The drive, the natural evolution of conscious beings,
is to return to the Source.
Not out-out-out, but in-in-in…
there is no other place for you to be proven than Here.

~ Mooji

[suzzycowgirl]

Posted by Wind (here)
How rare it is in the human kingdom
that beings are aware of that silence,
that space that is unmoving, that does not age,
it does not grow, it doesn’t expand or contract,
and yet everything that moves, that appears or disappears,
take their birth from Here.
Your calling is to discover this consciously, powerfully.
Only then will you be able to face the storms
that come from the body-mind identity,
and the psychological noise that comes from personhood.
You will see through all of these things.
They will not overwhelm you anymore.
I want to remind you that it is possible
to be free of such states.
It is not difficult to awaken to the True.
What seems difficult is to overcome the reflex
to go back into the old regime of identity
—that will happen for a time.
The tendency to want to protect our projections and attachments will in fact create this feeling of separation
and will slow you down.
But don’t despair!
All of this is going somewhere very beautiful.
And where is that? To You. Right Here.
Sitting inside the heart of your own Being.
The drive, the natural evolution of conscious beings,
is to return to the Source.
Not out-out-out, but in-in-in…
there is no other place for you to be proven than Here.

~ Mooji

This is beautifully written with a deep perception of reality. It's always nice to read the truth.

[greybeard]

Adyashanti - Feel Your own Presence (Eye Opening Talk)

This place (Thread) is dedicated to Truth--Keep bringing it on
Chris

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=-qmA-JOtxE4

[Guish]

Good to see this thread still strong.

[greybeard]

Good to see you Guish
Much love Ch

[greybeard]

Alan Watts Proves, You Don't Exist (A MUST LISTEN)

Please listen to this talk until the end because Alan Watts proves you that you don't exist, and shows you having a feeling of existing is just a hallucination. This channel tries to bring the best and most profound talks done by our intellects and best spiritual teachers. If you enjoyed this video, make sure to SUBSCRIBE to our channel for new daily videos Alan Wilson Watts (6 January 1915 – 16 November 1973) was a British philosopher, writer, and speaker, best known as an interpreter and populariser of Eastern philosophy for a Western audience. Born in Chislehursjt, England, he moved to the United States in 1938 and began Zen training in New York.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=vNKOUhx-7qk

[Wind]

The Reality of the Illusory World

by Rupert Spira

Well over a hundred years ago the painter Paul Cézanne said, “A time is coming when a carrot, freshly observed, will trigger a revolution.” Cézanne meant that if we could see even a simple everyday object such as a carrot, as it truly is, our experience would be revolutionized. But what does it mean to see an object as it truly is? The key is in the phrase ‘freshly observed,’ which means to see clearly, unobstructed by the concepts that thought superimposes on our experience. In fact, most of us are completely unaware that our experience is filtered through a fine mesh of conceptual thinking that makes it appear very different from how it actually is.

As the Chinese sage Huang Po said, some 1200 years ago, “People neglect the reality of the illusory world.” The illusory world? Now that’s even more radical than Cezanne! It’s one thing to look freshly at a carrot, spade, house or world, but quite another to consider it an illusion. What did he mean?

We often hear phrases in the non-dual teaching such as, ‘The world is an illusion.’ But such phrases may create a rebellion in us, for we know that our experience is very real. So how to reconcile these two positions – one, ‘the illusory world’ and two, the undeniable reality of our experience?

Anything that appears must appear in or on something. For instance, an image appears on a screen; a chair appears in the space of a room; the words of a novel appear on a page; a cloud appears in the sky. What about the mind, body and world? Our only experience of them is what currently appears to us as thoughts, images, feelings, sensations, sights, sounds, textures, tastes and smells. In other words, all we know of a mind, body or world are appearances, and all these are continually appearing and disappearing. We may have a concept of a continuously existing mind, body or world, but we never actually experience such an object.

All experience arises within our self, this transparent emptiness. And the only ‘stuff’ present in our self, out of which all experience can be made, is our self itself. It is our direct, intimate experience that all we know of a mind, body or world is made out of and is identical to the transparency of our own Being.

Just as the screen on which an image appears is usually overlooked due to our exclusive focus on the image itself, so this open, empty, transparent presence of our own Being is usually overlooked due to our exclusive focus on the objects of the mind, body and world – that is, on thoughts, feelings, sensations and perceptions. However, just as it is not possible to see an image without seeing the screen so, although this Presence is usually overlooked, it is never truly unknown.

Love is the common name we give to experience when the ‘other’ is no longer experienced as ‘other;’ when the subject/object relationship collapses. It is to see the appearance of an image but to know it only as screen. It is to attribute the reality of the image to the screen. It is to know everyone and everything as one’s own self.

[suzzycowgirl]

Hey Wind, This is interesting to me for a couple of reasons. I do believe that if a tree falls in the woods and nobody hears it, then it doesn't make a noise. I never worked this idea out intellectually but it's great to see someone has, lol. Also I believe that love is the only reality and all else is illusion, so this post brings me closer to understanding this concept, intellectually.
But most importantly, if the world is a blank screen and your mind is the projector then you can project any kind of illusion you want on it or in it. I know this from experience.

[Wind]

Well said, Suzzy.

[greybeard]

Form and formless both and neither.
Self is beyond description---not a concept---cant be defined--labeled.
I tend to come back to Tim's thread for some of the best pointing that I have read.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post456904

Much love Chris

[greybeard]

The Prevailing Silence

Dr. David R. Hawkins


God is Beyond Form

God is self-revealing and beyond all form, yet present and innate within all form. God is silence, still, serene, peaceful, unmoving, all-inclusive, everywhere present, all-knowing by virtue of being All That Is. God is total, complete, quiescent, loving, beyond time and space, without parts or partitions, nondualistic, and equally present in All That Is, not different from the Self. Only existence is possible. Despite translation errors, and misunderstanding, God is not nothingness or void. Nonexistence is not a possibility.

The Presence is beyond all thought, mentation, or even observation. The awareness is Self-awareness that stems from the knowingness of actually being All That Is; therefore, there is nothing to know 'about'. In the state of Oneness, the objective and subjective disappear into each other.

The Eye of the I, ch.10, pg. 210, 211

[Foxie Loxie]

I'll be truthful, greybeard....After all my journey, I dislike using the word, "God", because in Western Civ. that is equated with the "god" of the Old Testament. Perhaps the One True Source, The All, The Entirety of Consciousness of which we are a part???? Who knows! For me, there are too many negative connections to the word "God". Each person has their own "idea" about what that word means....

What I DO know is that I AM! That in itself was a great discovery! Appreciate all your postings here!

[Helene West]

God is the only "I".

[greybeard]

Posted by Foxie Loxie (here)
I'll be truthful, greybeard....After all my journey, I dislike using the word, "God", because in Western Civ. that is equated with the "god" of the Old Testament. Perhaps the One True Source, The All, The Entirety of Consciousness of which we are a part???? Who knows! For me, there are too many negative connections to the word "God". Each person has their own "idea" about what that word means....

What I DO know is that I AM! That in itself was a great discovery! Appreciate all your postings here!

Yes I agree regarding the misunderstanding of the word God.
That is God and you are That-- there is only "this"
I like the word "The Ultimate" --makes no difference really --Only One without a second.
So many ways to say the same thing.

Much love Chris

[Guish]

Nice discussion here. It is all a big game. Live it with a smile and don't take things too seriously.

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Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=rtRIqXa78e8

I like this.

[Foxie Loxie]

We each have lived through our unique circumstances & so we come at things from varied vantage points! Thankful for Avalon!

[greybeard]

We may form a circle but we are all looking at the center.
Or spokes of the wheel looking at the hub.

Round and round I go---(wheel of Karma) till I realize im going no where.

Much love Chris

[justntime2learn]

Posted by Wind (here)
Why does complete discovery
of the Self take so long?
Perhaps because of arrogance.
Arrogance can emerge in such subtle ways,
maybe like, ‘I have finally done it!'
'Now that I am free, I can do pretty much
whatever I want. Nothing can touch me.’
'I just want to save everyone in the world.'
'Lord, thank you for making me so humble.’
In innumerable ways he can come.
And this arrogance is a poison.
It was said in the biblical scriptures
that Satan himself was of the heavenly kingdom
and was driven out because of his arrogance.
Arrogance brings in separation from the Oneness.
Yet we must never think that we are free of arrogance.
This is one of the ways to start transcending him.
In fact, freedom means to be free of arrogance.

~ Mooji

I mean this With all sincerity.

Is arrogance affected by ego or is it the other way around?