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    Default Re: Russian Airforce Just Destroyed ISIS’ Main Financial Source: 500 Oil Trucks

    I'd like to know if anyone sees it this way and/or what I'm missing....

    In a very simplistic way.......ISIS is really US/Israel/Britain+, but NOT Russia and their allies. This puts the US/ISR/BR in a pickle, no? The US/ISR/BR has pumped up the propaganda to get the world against 'ISIS'....therefore Russia 'going after' ISIS is Russia able to go after US/ISR/BR and no US/ISR/BR propaganda is able to say Russia is doing anything wrong, and US/ISR/BR can't justify to the public retaliating against Russia for it, leaving Russia able to destroy the US/ISR/BR infiltration of the middle east.

    This is some chess game being played if this is part of the complexity.

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    Default Re: Russian Airforce Just Destroyed ISIS’ Main Financial Source: 500 Oil Trucks

    Anonymous hits them on the cyber front, Russia hits their fuel, where is America. ???
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    Default Re: Russian Airforce Just Destroyed ISIS’ Main Financial Source: 500 Oil Trucks

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    Anonymous hits them on the cyber front, Russia hits their fuel, where is America. ???

    Financing them and dropping them weapons ... isn't that clear by now

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    Anonymous hits them on the cyber front, Russia hits their fuel, where is America. ???
    America is repleneshing their supply lollllllll Merry goes round
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    Default Re: Russian Airforce Just Destroyed ISIS’ Main Financial Source: 500 Oil Trucks

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    I wonder if we will see a US vs Russia war in Syria disguised as a "war on terror" ... I wonder if we are not already witnessing some of this ... ?
    Absolutely
    doubt it...at least not directly in the air if that is what you mean... that could end up being an embarrassment for the US, since I don't think they have a base of operations to maintain and operate f-22's out of (but correct me if I'm wrong there... that's the the only thing that might even come close to the Sukhoi-35s... the f-15s aren't up to the task, and they certainly won't be rolling out any f-35s either... I'd bet 10 to one on that... (...I know, that's not even fair... ; (

    the US would be hard pressed to covertly supply the "rebels" with "tons of armaments" given the Russian's current surveillance and control of so much Syrian airspace... neither side would tolerate a direct confrontation... I don't even think that is the game plan... if I had to guess, my first lark would be to find out if there is any current Steven Pieczenik commentary... then cross reference that with Fulford and then Veteran's today, then even a Rocky commentary of a Sorcha article, Jim Stone, etc, etc and so on... ie. a consensus of all the alternative media channels of experts who might have a say on this three ring circus of global mayhem and chaos...

    screw the mainstream... that is just brainwashing... although you can use it to assess what they might be trying to hide or misdirect away from... try to reverse what they are saying to look for any hidden messages... o.O!
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    Default Re: Russian Airforce Just Destroyed ISIS’ Main Financial Source: 500 Oil Trucks

    US planes are pounding Mosul in Northern Irag, they have an airbase operation in Turkey

    75 ISIS leaders have sent their families to Syria...

    Raqqa is getting hit hard, but it is missing the main forces, targets are being handed to them by the Pentagon...

    Just another coincidence...
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    Default Re: Russian Airforce Just Destroyed ISIS’ Main Financial Source: 500 Oil Trucks

    More about the Oil and financial story here in this article in Zero Hedge:

    http://http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-19/most-important-question-about-isis-nobody-asking

    Quote Most Important Question About ISIS That Nobody Is Asking

    The question of how the Islamic State funds its sprawling caliphate has been discussed in the past: we first broke down the primary driver of ISIS revenue well over a year ago, in September 2014, when we explained that "ISIS uses oil wealth to help finance its terror operations."

    Attachment 31927

    Daily Signal's Kelsey Harkness explained the breakdown as follows:
    According to the Iraq Energy Institute, an independent, nonprofit policy organization focused on Iraq’s energy sector, the army of radical Islamists controls production of 30,000 barrels of oil a day in Iraq and 50,000 barrels in Syria. By selling the oil on the black market at a discounted price of $40 per barrel (compared to about $93 per barrel in the free market), ISIS takes in $3.2 million a day.

    The oil revenue, which amounts to nearly $100 million each month, allows ISIS to fund its military and terrorist attacks — and to attract more recruits from around the world, including America.

    Most importantly, we added that to be successful in counterterrorism efforts, "the U.S. and its allies must “push the Islamic State out of the oil fields it has captured and disrupt its ability to smuggle the oil to foreign markets."
    None of this was surprising to anyone, but what was quite surprising is that it took the allied forces over a year to take the oil revenue threat seriously and begin targeting the Islamic State's oil infrastructure in earnest."

    Today, in an article titled "Why US Efforts to Cut Off Islamic State's Funds Have Failed" http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...ds-have-failed Bloomberg tries to explain just how it is that despite a more than a year long campaign, ISIS funding remains as strong as ever, and notes that "the latest round of airstrikes are directly related to the administration’s new math. “You have to go after the oil, and you have to do it in a serious way, and we’ve just begun to do that now,” citing Benjamin Bahney, an international policy analyst at the Rand Corp., a U.S. Department of Defense-funded think tank.

    To be sure, there are other sources of revenue: Bloomberg correctly notes that "even if the U.S. finally weakens the group’s oil income, Bahney and other analysts in the U.S., the Middle East, and Europe contend, Islamic State has resources beyond crude—from selling sex slaves to ransoming hostages to plundering stolen farmland—that can likely keep it fighting for years."

    Still, without a doubt, the dominant source of funds for the terrorists is oil, and not just oil, but a well-greased logistical machine that keeps thousands of barrels moving from unknown pumps to even refineries, and ultimately to smugglers who operated out of Turkey and other countries.

    Here is Bloomberg:

    Most often refined in Syria, the group’s oil is trucked to cities such as Mosul to provide people living under its black banner with fuel for generators and other basic needs. It’s also used to power the war machine. “They have quite an organized supply chain running fuel into Iraq and [throughout] the ‘caliphate,’ ” says Michael Knights, an Iraq expert at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, using the militant group’s religiously loaded term for itself. Because the U.S. apparently believed the real money for Islamic State came primarily via selling refined oil, rather than crude, last year’s strikes heavily targeted refineries and storage depots, says Bahney. He and other experts say that strategy missed an important shift: Militants increasingly sell raw crude to truckers and middlemen, rather than refining it themselves. So while Islamic State probably maintains some refining capacity, the majority of the oil in IS territory is refined by locals who operate thousands of rudimentary, roadside furnaces that dot the Syrian desert.
    Here is where it gets interesting: Bloomberg cites Pentagon officials who acknowledge "that for more than a year they avoided striking tanker trucks to limit civilian casualties. None of these guys are ISIS. We don’t feel right vaporizing them, so we have been watching ISIS oil flowing around for a year,” says Knights. That changed on Nov. 16, when four U.S. attack planes and two gunships destroyed 116 oil trucks.

    So any qualms about vaporizing "innocent civilians" promptly disappeared when the Pentagon realized that its 1+ year long campaign had been an epic debacle, that a suddenly surging ISIS was stronger as ever, and most importantly, that its critical revenue lifelines had been largely untouched for years. Perhaps they weren't innocent civilians after all.

    It is still unknown if this recent crackdown on "dumping oil", or crude which dramatically lowers the price of oil in global markets - it certainly is an odd coincidence that the price of Brent and WTI began its tumble last fall, just when the Islamic State made its dramatic appearance on the world scene - will have an effect and cut off the primary source of funds to ISIS.

    But what we have been wondering for months and what we hope some enterprising journalist will soon answer, is just who are the commodity trading firms that have been so generously buying millions of smuggled oil barrels procured by the Islamic State at massive discounts to market, and then reselling them to other interested parties.

    In other words, who are the middlemen.

    What we do know is who they may be: they are the same names that were quite prominent in the market in September when Glencore had its first, and certainly not last, near death experience: the Glencores, the Vitols, the Trafiguras, the Nobels, the Mercurias of the world.

    To be sure, funding terrorist states is not something that some of the most prominent names http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/27/bu...ies-at-78.html in the list above have shied away from in the past.

    Which one (or ones) are the guilty parties - those who have openly breached terrorism funding laws - we don't know: it may be one, or more of the above, or someone totally different.

    At this point, however, three things are certain: whoever the commodity trading house may be that is paying ISIS-affiliated "innocent civilians" hundreds of millions of dollars for their products, they are perfect aware just who the source of this deeply discounted crude is. Crude so deeply discounted, in fact, it results in massive profits for the enterprising middleman who are engaging in openly criminal transactions.

    The second certainty: whoever said middleman is, it is very well known to US intelligence services such as the NSA and CIA, and thus to the Pentagon, and thus, the US government.

    The third certainty is that while the US, and Russia, and now France, are all very theatrically bombing something in the Syrian desert (nobody really knows what), the funding of ISIS continues unabated as someone keeps buying ISIS oil.

    We wonder how long until someone finally asks the all important question regarding the Islamic State: who is the commodity trader breaching every known law of funding terrorism when buying ISIS crude, almost certainly with the tacit approval by various "western alliance" governments, and why is it that these governments have allowed said middleman to continue funding ISIS for as long as it has?
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    Default Re: Russian Airforce Just Destroyed ISIS’ Main Financial Source: 500 Oil Trucks

    Continued from above post:

    One of the comments to the Zero Hedge article (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-1...-asking?page=1) has additional comment on the Oil and control structure around Isis/Isil/Daesh.

    (Note: there is quite a lot of swearing in the original comment which I have tried to edit out. If you'd like to view the original, it is comment number 6815125.)

    Quote Thu, 11/19/2015 - 17:10 | 6815125
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    [...] Tyler... Is this suppose to be some kind of a secret? ALL ISIS oil sales to Turkey are through Kurdish president Barzani's mafia directly to Israel, with full knowledge and consent of the U.S. State Department. EU countries then buy it from Israel. Every oil shipper in the Mediterranean knows this.

    The U.S. and Israel have been bribing corrupt Kurds for a decade. KRG President Barzani, his KDP party and his mafia clan family [...] OWN all criminal activity in Iraqi Kurdistan. The average Kurd isn't involved and doesn't see a dime. Mob boss and president for life Barzani is a [...] TOOL of the U.S. and Israel and a buddy of Erdogan (who is busy shelling Syrian Kurds). Barzani's mafia is allowed to rape the Kurds and Iraqis with impunity as long as he 'obeys' his U.S., Israeli and Turkish masters. He is a sell-out; a Kurdish Saddam Hussein in the making and we'll eventually have to send U.S. troops to Kurdistan to take out that [...] U.S.-created monster some day. His land-grabbing supposedly on behalf of the Kurds is so [...] egregious that he would make an Israeli blush.

    Barzani's clan has been selling millions of barrels of oil well below market price for a year and none of the money has been making it to the Kurdish Regional Government. A good chunk does make it to Barzani's corrupt political party: the KDP. That's only one of his criminal enterprises, but it's a huge one. The Barzani mafia has been buying ISIS oil (no questions asked) and shipping it to Turkey along with whatever they are pulling from their patchwork of fields. The Toyota Hilux pipeline TO ISIS is also - surprise - controlled by a different arm of the Barazani mafia. Barzani runs bartertown, and no oil flows without his henchmen getting a cut for Barzani. This is by U.S. and Israeli design. It was always their intention to steal the northern Iraqi oilfields from the Iraqis AND from the Kurds. Barzani is nothing but their paid thief, and he buys from anyone INCLUDING ISIS.

    Did you really think ISIS just trucked a tanker through Kurdish territory and negotiated a sale one-on-one with Erdogan's mafia? We're talking millions of barrels here, not a bunch of little 1000 bbl truckloads sold individually (although that's the impression the U.S. would have you believe).

    The U.S. has gone overboard to paint this as the desperate actions of the Kurds because the Iraqi government in Baghdad isn't sending the Kurds their share of Iraqi oil revenue. While that part is true, it turns out that the U.S. and Israel are the ones originally bribing Baghdad to interfere with payments, and Baghdad has been stealing most of the oil revenue for themselves with the help and consent of Western bankers anyways.

    Kurds selling 'their own' oil because Baghdad isn't sending tax revenues IS A U.S. AND ISRAELI engineered crisis to justify independent Kurdish oil sales. Israel's interest isn't just discounted oil (for now). Iraq still refuses to sell Israel any of it's oil directly, so it's 'arranging' theft of Iraqi oil through their paid-off monkey Barzani through his personal mafia. This is all greasing the skids for the U.S. and Israel-engineered Kurdish independence movement, allowing the completion of the Kirkuk to Haifa pipeline and unlimited supplies of oil for Israel. Israel also has tons of listening posts and surveillance stuff in Iraqi Kurdistan on the Iranian border. Israel plans to own Kurdistan - it's their highway from the Mediterranean to attack Iran. Israel will kill every last Kurd if they have to in order to keep Barzani (their paid stooge) in power.

    If you want the U.S./Israeli/Barzani-mafia side of the story, look no further than their propaganda mouthpiece (Barazani's son runs it): BasNews (http://www.basnews.com/index.php/en/). Barzani's narratives are always 100% consistent with Israeli and U.S. 'news' about Kurdistan. Talk to the average Kurd or anyone from the YPG/YPJ and you'll get the 'little peoples' story. They [...] HATE the U.S. and Israel BECAUSE they know they're behind Barzani's mafia.

    If you want the real story, then ask yourself who benefits:

    Israel turns to Kurds for three-quarters of its oil supplies
    http://http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/150f00cc-472c-11e5-af2f-4d6e0e5eda22.html

    Exclusive: How Kurdistan bypassed Baghdad and sold oil on global markets
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0T61HH20151117

    Iraqi Kurds to continue oil sales despite Baghdad's US court win
    http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/ir...win-1959399717

    The last article is interesting in that U.S. courts have decided that Kurds cannot legally sell Iraqi oil on world markets. So while most countries won't touch it, Israel is able to buy it at a huge discount and sell it to another middleman for a few bucks a barrel more. Israel is immune from goy law, so [...] [bleep] U.S. courts.

    I wouldn't object to Kurd oil sales if the Kurds actually got the money, but they're not. Most is being siphoned off by Barzani and Israeli criminals. The U.S. should be intervening and forcing Baghdad to share oil revenues according to the original plan, but the U.S. has put so many of their stooges in the Iraqi government that most of THAT revenue is stolen.

    A million Iraqi deaths, hundreds of thousands of Kurd deaths, and ten thousand American soldiers dead for what? A dysfunctional, criminal government in Baghdad stealing so much oil revenue that the Kurds don't get their share, and the empowerment of an even bigger criminal - Barzani - to steal Iraqi oil and Kurdish oil revenue for his clan. Thanks for [...] [bleep] up another country, America (with honorable mention to Israel).
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    Default Re: Russian Airforce Just Destroyed ISIS’ Main Financial Source: 500 Oil Trucks

    Quote Posted by Searcher (here)
    More about the Oil and financial story here in this article in Zero Hedge:

    http://http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-19/most-important-question-about-isis-nobody-asking

    Quote Most Important Question About ISIS That Nobody Is Asking

    The question of how the Islamic State funds its sprawling caliphate has been discussed in the past: we first broke down the primary driver of ISIS revenue well over a year ago, in September 2014, when we explained that "ISIS uses oil wealth to help finance its terror operations."
    [INDENT]According to the Iraq Energy Institute, an independent, nonprofit policy organization focused on Iraq’s energy sector, the army of radical Islamists controls production of 30,000 barrels of oil a day in Iraq and 50,000 barrels in Syria. By selling the oil on the black market at a discounted price of $40 per barrel (compared to about $93 per barrel in the free market), ISIS takes in $3.2 million a day.

    (Note: all formatting and links as per the original article)
    Probably they have 10 lines highway to manage that kind of oil to transport for daily base and no one is noticing.

    Math is a necessary tool to create another logical screen drafts.

    proof by contradiction

    There is oil money involvement but not from local source.
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    Default Re: Russian Airforce Just Destroyed ISIS’ Main Financial Source: 500 Oil Trucks

    Create a big enough global enemy will eventually require a global government to defeat. ISIS/ ISIL may or may not be that global enemy but it is certainly, at the very least, a precursor.

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    Default Re: Russian Airforce Just Destroyed ISIS’ Main Financial Source: 500 Oil Trucks

    Sounds like lies & a thinly veiled excuse to put up fuel prices.

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    This woman has bigger balls than all the G20 members put together!!

    She has my admiration and respect and at the same time sure hope she has great personal security because the Game Players are not going to like her playing on their Gameboard or watch.


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    its all much so more then that, I don't know how to explain, my mind is so full of why we should take care of the folks in this country first before adding to the problem and my mind is so full of good things that could become of that lets just think good things yeh happy thankgiving everyone this is a difficult time in our lives in the US pray for peace please pray for Peace, and invision a world with free energy and love, peace,dennis

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    Quote Posted by sigma6 (here)
    Quote Posted by Bubu (here)
    U.S. Warplanes Strike ISIS Oil Trucks in Syria
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/17/wo...-oil.html?_r=0

    I wonder if this going to jack up oil prices.
    hopefully with a little luck and a good tail wind coming off those sukhoi backdrafts breathing down their necks... you could say the US with some "Russian motivation" are hard at work, making that so... ; D
    update: (I should add, guiltily as well, that Canada too would benefit from higher oil prices... and no there is nothing to justify it, just making a pragmatic statement...

    War and commerce go hand in hand, always has and always will... follow the money... Military Industrial Complex needs to justify it's corporate welfare existence, rebuilding projects in the middle east, forcing migrants into demographically low population growth countries (i.e. G7 countries), by damaging and destabilizing the economies of "our enemies" by destroying their oil production, thereby increasing the value of remaining oil producers... (although technically I'd like to see large portions of Saudi Arabia blown off the map... that would fix the oil price in a jiffy, stab the heart of CIA-Nazionist-Bush-Saudi-Wahhabi cult of terror... and cut off one of the biggest source of funds to muslim "extremists" (i.e. basically young men thrown out of their family homes starving and looking for work) in one fell swoop...

    Sorry Saudi people, but you're living on borrowed time with that beheading and cutting off peoples hands based governing thing... that can't last forever... even if it takes thousand of people with pitch forks and torches duct taped to what is remaining of their limbs to parade around your palaces... just another extension of US crime syndicate model of puppet states in exchange for control of supply of commodities.... that made good (or got away...) if the US wants to "fix the middle east" maybe they should start with the people they made a devil's deal with in the first place back in the 60's pegging the US dollar on oil... as if no one could see that was not going to end well...
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    Default Re: Russian Airforce Just Destroyed ISIS’ Main Financial Source: 500 Oil Trucks

    Quote Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
    I wonder if we will see a US vs Russia war in Syria disguised as a "war on terror" ... I wonder if we are not already witnessing some of this ... ?


    "Putin's stealth cruise missile hits Syria hard" ...

    The missile is invisible to radar so radar based defense systems would be useless at trying to intercept them.
    I guess ISIS has cruise missile intercepting defense systems now, that make this article relevant? Not bad for a few goons in the desert with tennis shoes and a black sheet.

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