Turkey shoots down Russian jet near Syrian border

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[Morbid]

[idiit]

One thing is sure as long as the mafia is there wars will always be so is it obvious that the best way is to go after the mafia.

^ I posted the same thought on the "it's on" thread. got to get to the master of the dogs that bite.

[idiit]

Turkey was apparently willing to risk sparking a wider conflict between NATO and Russia over a 17 second incursion.

In other words, as Sputnik put it earlier this evening, "according to those numbers, the Su-24 would have had to be flying at stall speed."

The Su-24's max speed is 1,320 km/hour.

So if we assume the Su-24 was actually going much faster, was 17 seconds more like 5 seconds? Or perhaps even less?

Of course Russia wasn't just bombing Turkish civilians for the sheer hell of it. It's likely Moscow was targeting the very same FSA-affiliated Alwiya al-Ashar militiamen who shot and killed the parachuting Russian pilot earlier today.

In short, it looks like Ankara saw an opportunity to shoot down a Russian jet in retaliation for strikes on Turkish rebel fighters who are operating alongside anti-Assad forces. Erdogan is essentially gambling that Russia will not retailiate militarily against Turkey because doing so would open the door for a direct confrontation with NATO.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-1...rigger-reality

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The Russian General Staff said that, according to preliminary data, one of the Su-24 pilots has died after being fired at from the ground.

The Russian General Staff said that, according to preliminary data, one of the Su-24 pilots has died after being fired at from the ground.

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According to the Geneva Convention attacks on persons parachuting from an aircraft in distress are stricly banned: if the person in distress is not acting in a hostile manner, he is to be given the chance to surrender after reaching the ground.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-1...-turkish-media

[Sungazerer]

This is the elite in panic mode. Eventually a mistake will be made and not even their stranglehold on the MSM will prevent exposure.

[idiit]

Eventually a mistake will be made and not even their stranglehold on the MSM will prevent exposure.

galactic historian Andrew bartzis said several times that we would know "the event" is near ( imminent) when the cabal is shown for all to see who they really are. it's getting pretty obvious. also, bartzis stated "the event" is imminent when you see thousands take to the streets protesting. that is happening despite msm's attempt to cover it up with false flags, celebrity gossip, sporting event coverage, etc...

in the latest bases 53 videos 1,2,3 segment grandmother 13 was saying that the sun is going dark. they are watching the sun very closely. the sun will go dark for three days and if we protect our dna ( underground pits for the indigenous natives already built) our dna will go to 12 strand almost overnight and we cease being carbon based. we then are full fledged multidimensional beings with corresponding attributes.

paris, turkey's downing of the Russian jet, revelations on jfk, 911, etc... are appearing every day. me thinks the turkey downing of the Russian jet is just another sign "the event" is near.

[Ikarusion]

Posted by idiit (here)
in the latest bases 53 videos 1,2,3 segment grandmother 13 was saying that the sun is going dark. they are watching the sun very closely. the sun will go dark for three days and if we protect our dna ( underground pits for the indigenous natives already built) our dna will go to 12 strand almost overnight and we cease being carbon based. we then are full fledged multidimensional beings with corresponding attributes.

wait, you lost me here. so the sun will soon go dark for 3 days and if we go underground for that period we cease being carbon based life forms?
this sounds pretty out there. where you got that from? i want to understand.

the sun is good. if it would "turn off" my impuls would be to get some somehow, instead of hiding from non existent sunshine.
or is it kinda switching polarity and blasting us with death rays? who comes up with this stuff? where we told that by aliens?

again, you lost me.

[Hervé]

NATO Orders Stool-Pigeon Turkey to Shoot Down Russian Jet

Joe Quinn
Sott.net Wed, 25 Nov 2015 13:38 UTC

Want to know why the Russian Su-24 was shot down yesterday? Read on.

Turkish, Saudi, French, British and US-backed terrorists have been operating in Syria for the past 4 years in an effort to overthrow the Syrian government. This cabal wants to remove Assad in order to a) pave the way for Qatari gas to supplant Russian gas to Europe, b) possibly open up a front for a jihadi invasion to destabilize and pressure Iran and Russia, and c) secure Turkish territorial integrity and its long-term role as a buffer zone for Western powers to play in the Middle East sandbox with impunity.

The overall goal then, from a Western perspective, is to do away with the historical crescent of resistance against Western Imperialism and anti-pan-Arab nationalism as represented or supported by Russia/Iran/Iraq/Syria and Lebanon. Israel, of course, is a major supporter of just such a 'new Middle East' because, without it, it might be wiped from the pages of history as a Jewish state. In this endeavor, Turkey, with its long border with northern Syria, has played a primary role in facilitating the training, arming and funding of jihadi head-chopping mercenaries in their four-year war against the Syrian people and government.

Turkey's Kurdish Problem
After the First World War and the fall of the Ottoman Empire (and its reinvention as Turkey), a fledgling Turkey (!) chose to look primarily towards the West, playing an early divisive role in helping the British and Americans repress a nascent Arab nationalist movement. As part of this process, the Western powers gerrymandered the former Ottoman lands of the Middle East (all the better to exploit the sea of oil on which they happening to be floating), and the Kurds, like several other indigenous peoples of the area, saw their lands and people divided.

Kurdistan (shaded area) at the time of the treaty of Sevres (1920) between the Ottoman Empire and the Western Allies

The incorporation of the Kurdish areas of the former East Anatolia into Turkey was opposed by many Kurds who hoped for a homeland of their own. During the 1920s and 1930s several rebellions against Turkish rule took place. These were forcefully put down by the Turkish authorities and the region was declared a closed military area from which foreigners were banned between 1925 and 1965. The use of Kurdish language was outlawed, the words Kurds and Kurdistan were erased from dictionaries and history books, and the Kurds were only referred to as Mountain Turks. Throughout the 1980s and '90s Kurdish separatists also waged a guerrilla war against the Turkish military in which tens of thousands of people died.

Erdogan, Assad and their wives in friendlier times in 2009

Beginning in 2003 with the election of Erdogan as Prime Minister, the situation stabilized somewhat, as did Turkish/Syrian relations after the Syrian government pledged to stop harboring Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) militants. Between 2003 and 2009, Syria and Turkey signed nearly 50 agreements of cooperation, announced the establishment of a "Senior Strategic Cooperation Council," and conducted their first-ever joint military exercises. In 2010, Turkey and Syria signed an historic counterterrorism agreement, followed up by a counterinsurgency pact. Turkey had become Syria's largest trading partner and so close was the relationship that, in 2009, Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu declared that the states shared a "common fate, history, and future."

So what happened in the last 6 years? The short answer is that, sometime around 2011, it was made clear to Erdogan's government through NATO channels that Assad would be leaving, one way or another, and that Syria would be divided up into semi-autonomous regions. This plan, as detailed by both the US Brookings Institution in a 2015 paper titled "Deconstructing Syria: A new strategy for America's most hopeless war,"and an op-ed by the President of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) Richard Haas titled "Testing Putin in Syria", carried the threat of the likely creation of an autonomous Kurdistan, taking with it a sizeable chunk of Turkish territory.

So the Turkish government was faced with a choice: side with NATO in the destruction and dismemberment of Syria and safeguard Turkish territorial integrity, or risk losing it if the Assad government were somehow to prevail against the West's jihadi army. NATO no doubt assured the Turks that the result of such a manufactured civil war in Syria was a foregone conclusion, and no doubt it would have been, had Russia not decided to step into the fray 2 months ago.

What Erdogan fears to lose: Kurdistan in Turkey

The result has been that Turkey has spent the last four years as the primary staging ground for NATO's proxy mercenary army in Syria. No one doubts this, not even Western governments. In that role, Turkey has been given free reign to deal with a resurgent Kurdish militancy (PKK, YPG) who are so concerned about their fate in the event of a NATO/Turkish victory in Syria that they have been openly aligning themselves with both Russia and the Syrian government.

Direct Turkish Government Links to ISIS in Syria
When US special forces raided the compound of an Islamic State leader in eastern Syria in May this year, hundreds of flash drives and documents were seized revealing undeniable evidence of direct dealings between Turkish officials and ranking Isis members. One senior western official familiar with the intelligence gathered said that it could "end up having profound policy implications for the relationship between us and Ankara."

You might be thinking that this unnamed Western official meant that the West (UK, France and the US) would cut ties with the Turks over their alliance with ISIS headchoppers. But you'd be wrong because, 6 months later, there is no sign of any break in Western relations with Turkey. Indeed, just yesterday, British Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond accused an opposition Labour MP of being an "apologist for Russian actions" for having the gall to sort of sympathize with Russia over the Su-24 shoot down.

Labour's Dennis Skinner raised questions in Parliament about Turkey's reliability as a British ally and pressed Hammond for his views on Turkey's role against Islamic State. "When you consider that not only today that they've shot down a Russian jet - who are also trying to fight Isil - they're buying oil from Isil in order to prop them up, they're bombing the Kurds who are also fighting Isil." Skinner said.

In response, Hammond insisted that Turkey and the UK and Europe will remain best buddies no matter what. "I see old habits die hard and you remain an apologist for Russian actions. On the question of Turkey, Turkey is an important NATO ally. It holds the key to a number of really very important questions, both in relation to the battle against Isil but also in relation to the migration challenge that Europe faces, and it will remain a very important partner for this country and for the European Union".

One has to wonder here what the French government thinks of a close ally like the UK declaring such unstinting support for Turkey when it has been recently revealed that the alleged mastermind of the recent Paris attacks, Abaaoud, crossed into and out of Syria to learn his trade craft from ISIL via the Jarabulus crossing in Syria, just 100 m from the Turkish border, which is manned by Turkish border guards and which Erdogan recently claimed was a 'red line' in terms of Russian airstrikes in the area.

Full article: http://www.sott.net/article/307145-N...wn-Russian-Jet

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Kurdish (YPJ) frontline troops

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[Hervé]

Turkish intelligence chief: Putin's intervention in Syria is against Islam and international law, ISIS is a reality and we are optimistic about the future

18 October 2015

Hakan Fidan

Ankara--- Hakan Fidan, the head of Turkey's National Intelligence Organization, known by the MİT acronym, has drawn a lot of attention and criticism for his controversial comments about ISIS.

Mr. Hakan Fidan, Turkish President's staunchest ally, condemned Russian military intervention in Syria, accusing Moscow of trying to 'smother' Syria's Islamist revolution and serious breach of United Nations law.

“ISIS is a reality and we have to accept that we cannot eradicate a well-organized and popular establishment such as the Islamic State; therefore I urge my western colleagues to revise their mindset about Islamic political currents, put aside their cynical mentalité and thwart Vladimir Putin's plans to crush Syrian Islamist revolutionaries,”

Anadolu News Agency quoted Mr. Fidan as saying on Sunday.

Fidan further added that in order to deal with the vast number of foreign Jihadists craving to travel to Syria, it is imperative that ISIS must set up a consulate or at least a political office in Istanbul. He underlined that it is Turkey’s firm belief to provide medical care for all injured people fleeing Russian ruthless airstrikes regardless of their political or religious affiliation.

Recently as the fierce clashes between Russian army and ISIS terrorists raging across the war-torn Syria, countless number of ISIS injured fighters enter the Turkish territory and are being admitted in the military hospitals namely those in Hatay Province. Over the last few days, the Syrian army with the support of Russian air cover could fend off ISIS forces in strategic provinces of Homs and Hama.

Emile Hokayem, a Washington-based Middle East analyst said that Turkey's Erdoğan and his oil-rich Arab allies have dual agendas in the war on terror and as a matter of fact they are supplying the Islamist militants with weapons and money, thus Russian intervention is considered a devastating setback for their efforts to overthrow Syrian secular President Assad.

Hokayem who was speaking via Skype from Washington, D.C. highlighted the danger of Turkish-backed terrorist groups and added that what is happening in Syria cannot be categorized as a genuine and popular revolution against dictatorship but rather it is a chaos orchestrated by Erdoğan who is dreaming to revive this ancestor's infamous Ottoman Empire.

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Syria's "déjà vu": Allende... Pinochet?

[Ron Mauer Sr]

I think Bill Holter is correct. Copied from http://www.jsmineset.com/ Nov 24:

The following is how I see it, “in my opinion”. I believe this episode was no mistake and was fully planned. I think the “stress” on the Western financial system is coming to a full blown head and can no longer be hidden like the crazy aunt in the basement. As I have said all along, the collapse when it comes will need “cover” to hide the real and true cause. Starting a war with Russia even as unthinkable and unwinnable for anyone as it is will only serve to cover the foundational policy flaws of the Ponzi scheme.

The West is patently broke. Our standard of living can no longer be “funded” with debt. The current negative swap rates I believe are evidence of a scarcity of collateral …the alternative being banks and brokers truly are a better credit risk than sovereign debt. We also know gold is in scarcity because the negative GOFO rates. If you look to COMEX registered inventories you will see they are almost gone and amount to 150,000 ounces heading into what is the biggest delivery month of the year. The list goes on and on but suffice it to say, no matter where you look you will see things financial and economic either in decline or collapsing. You need to “look” for yourself and past the “headlines” and BLS reportings to understand why “now”.

I have long thought Russia and China had a “truth bomb” up their sleeve to be delivered by Mr. Putin. It has been my opinion he would expose many falsehoods and false flags over the years with hard evidence to back his claims. Now, should we be involved militarily against Russia much of what he has to deliver will be considered “propaganda” no matter how credible the evidence. Thank honest journalism for this.

Standing watch,
Bill Holter
Holter-Sinclair collaboration
Comments welcome bholter@hotmail.com

[Flash]

The cat has gotten out of his bag (French saying: le chat est sorti du sac), meaning that the true supplyers of arms and receiver of money are out in the open. The Cabal through its Turkish stooges. From one of the most corrupt government Turkey has ever had.

Mustafa Kemal (surnamed Atatürk, the general who fought, in early 20th century, to make Turkey a secular country, to write a constitution and give the army the duty to protect it, and Kemal, who even changed the arabic alphabet for a european one - arabic not being efficient with the language) must be twisting in his coffin! An islamist state, Turkey? It goes against everything he had fought for.

How come the Turkish army is not doing its job, its true job, its duty written in their constitution, which is to protect their country and to protect their constitution?

Pretty similar to what is happening in USA by the way. Loss of constitutional freedom and batardizing of the real constitution in the name of money, corruption and cabal' benefits.

ISIS to have an office in Istanbul: they have Fallen on their head!! This is definitely the demands of Saudi Arabia, another Sunni country, like Turkey.

Most people in Turkey are hard core secular prone, they will not admit this, to have a religious country, I predict numerous street démonstrations in Istanbul and even Ankara, that will be crush by their actual government.

Hokayem, the US analyst, is right in his analysis, he just does not go far enough. The money is going to Swiss bankers and to the Rotchilds and Rockerfeller and those unknown publically by the back door.

Gosh, Erdogan, the Turkish president, his head of security, and all the crass there must have pocketed so much money with this war that it must be pourring out of the bags and spilling all over. Killing in mass for profit!!! don't we have enough of this?

Where is the pride of the Turkish people?

Posted by Hervé (here)
Turkish intelligence chief: Putin's intervention in Syria is against Islam and international law, ISIS is a reality and we are optimistic about the future

18 October 2015

Hakan Fidan

Ankara--- Hakan Fidan, the head of Turkey's National Intelligence Organization, known by the MİT acronym, has drawn a lot of attention and criticism for his controversial comments about ISIS.

Mr. Hakan Fidan, Turkish President's staunchest ally, condemned Russian military intervention in Syria, accusing Moscow of trying to 'smother' Syria's Islamist revolution and serious breach of United Nations law.

“ISIS is a reality and we have to accept that we cannot eradicate a well-organized and popular establishment such as the Islamic State; therefore I urge my western colleagues to revise their mindset about Islamic political currents, put aside their cynical mentalité and thwart Vladimir Putin's plans to crush Syrian Islamist revolutionaries,”

Anadolu News Agency quoted Mr. Fidan as saying on Sunday.

Fidan further added that in order to deal with the vast number of foreign Jihadists craving to travel to Syria, it is imperative that ISIS must set up a consulate or at least a political office in Istanbul. He underlined that it is Turkey’s firm belief to provide medical care for all injured people fleeing Russian ruthless airstrikes regardless of their political or religious affiliation.

Recently as the fierce clashes between Russian army and ISIS terrorists raging across the war-torn Syria, countless number of ISIS injured fighters enter the Turkish territory and are being admitted in the military hospitals namely those in Hatay Province. Over the last few days, the Syrian army with the support of Russian air cover could fend off ISIS forces in strategic provinces of Homs and Hama.

Emile Hokayem, a Washington-based Middle East analyst said that Turkey's Erdoğan and his oil-rich Arab allies have dual agendas in the war on terror and as a matter of fact they are supplying the Islamist militants with weapons and money, thus Russian intervention is considered a devastating setback for their efforts to overthrow Syrian secular President Assad.

Hokayem who was speaking via Skype from Washington, D.C. highlighted the danger of Turkish-backed terrorist groups and added that what is happening in Syria cannot be categorized as a genuine and popular revolution against dictatorship but rather it is a chaos orchestrated by Erdoğan who is dreaming to revive this ancestor's infamous Ottoman Empire.

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Syria's "déjà vu": Allende... Pinochet?

[Hervé]

‘Turkish jets gave us no warning before shooting’ – rescued pilot of downed Russian Su-24

Published time: 25 Nov, 2015 14:33
Edited time: 25 Nov, 2015 15:34

Rescued pilot of the Russian Air Force's Su-24 jet, Captain Konstantin Murakhtin, center, answers journalists' questions at Khmeimim Air Base in Latakia. © Dmitriy Vinogradov / Sputnik


The navigator of the Russian Su-24 shot down by a Turkish fighter jet on Tuesday insists that his plane did not cross into Turkey’s airspace, and says he was given no visual or radio warning before being fired at.

“It’s impossible that we violated their airspace even for a second,” Konstantin Murakhtin told Russia’s Rossiya 1 channel. “We were flying at an altitude of 6,000 meters in completely clear weather, and I had total control of our flight path throughout.”

As well as denying Ankara’s assertions that the plane was in Turkey’s airspace, Murakhtin also refuted Turkish officials’ claim that the pilots were warned repeatedly.

“In actual fact there were no warnings at all. Neither through the radio, nor visually, so we did not at any point adjust our course. You need to understand the difference in speed between a tactical bomber like Su-24, and that of the F16. If they wanted to warn us, they could have sat on our wing,” said Murakhtin, who is currently recuperating at Russia’s airbase in Latakia, in northern Syria.

“As it was the missile hit the back of our plane out of nowhere. We didn’t even have time to make an evasive maneuver.”


Update:

As the plane was hit and went down in Syria, the two pilots ejected. Captain Sergey Rumyantsev was killed, with a rebel Turkmen brigade claiming they shot him to death while he was still parachuting.

Murakhtin was extracted in a 12-hour joint operation by Russian and Syrian special forces, in which a Russian Marine died.

The 39-year-old airman, who won the Top Navigator award at Russia's biggest military flying competition last year, says he will ask to return to front-line service as soon as he is declared fit.

"I must 'pay back' the debt for my captain," said Murakhtin.

[Flash]

The problem is that the Middle East powder cake, with the Russian history, is much too complex to comprehend for most North American.

To understand what is going on, one needs to understand how the Cabal works, the world Financial system and the history of the region. One have to know Middle East, Russian and Europe history!!! History lessons which haven been taken off American basic curriculum of schooling 15 years ago.

Most people will only see floating lies in front of their eyes, and floating dust. Hopefully, the floating dust particles will be large enough for them to make them doubt their government charade. In USA, China and Russia alike. We have to get away from very corrupted govenrment based decision making on the planet as a whole..

[idiit]

Rescued Russian Pilot Says There Was No Warning Before F-16 Opened Fire

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-1...-16-opened-fir

[Redstar Kachina]

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[Rocky_Shorz]

Sorcha is dumping on his CIA buddies in this report...

"Moscow Warns CIA, Not Turkey, Downed Russian Fighter Plane Over Syria

By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers

A new report circulating in the Kremlin today prepared by the Ministry of Defense (MoD) on the downing of an Aerospace Forces Sukhoi Su-24M bomber aircraft over Syria yesterday states that it was a deliberate act perpetrated by the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) who were at the time of this catastrophe “controlling/operating” a Turkish Air Force F-16 fighter jet on a supposed to be photographic reconnaissance mission.

According to this report, under the terms and provisions outlined in the 20 October agreement, whose full name is “The Memorandum of Mutual Understanding between the Defense Ministries of Russia and the United States on preventing incidents and providing for aviation flights during operations in Syria”, Aerospace Forces conducting combat missions in the Levant War Zone over Syria were notified yesterday by US Air Force flight controllers operating out of Turkey’s Incirlik Air Base that a Turkish Air Force F-16 was operating near the Turkey-Syrian border.

US Air Force flight controllers in further clarifying the “purpose/mission” of this Turkish Air Force F-16 flight, this report continues, stated to their Aerospace Forces counterparts that it was conducting a routine photographic reconnaissance flight for intelligence purposes—which this reports notes is always conducted under the direction of the CIA who mission is monitoring arms shipments from Turkey to Islamic State rebels in Syria.

Sensing no threat from this CIA operated Turkish Air Force F-16, this report says, an Aerospace Forces Su-24M bomber returning to its Syrian airbase with its two Sukhoi Su-30 fighter plane escorts “allowed/authorized” them to accelerate towards their base due to low fuel issues and increased its flight altitude to 6,000 meters (19,685 feet) to prevent attacks from ground based fired missiles as per its procedures.

Immediately upon the Su-24M reaching the altitude of 6,000 meters, this report grimly states, and without its Su-30 escorts able to protect it, the CIA directed Turkish Air Force F-16 immediately went to hypersonic speed and fired three air-to-air missiles at the Aerospace Forces “target” destroying this Federation bomber and causing its two pilots, Lieutenant Colonel Oleg Peshkov and Captain Konstantin Murahtin, to safely eject from their now destroyed plane.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=NZK-ORnY4Aw

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=IpkJrHV-yFE

After safely ejecting from their destroyed bomber plane, this report continues, Lieutenant Colonel Peshkov and Captain Murahtin, when nearing the ground, were then shot at by Islamic State terrorists who in doing so committed a grave war crime—and which killed Lieutenant Colonel Peshkov whose attackers celebrated his death.

Captain Murahtin, however, this report says, was able to be saved when the Su-30 escorts returned and provided covering fire to protect him—and who, also, provided air cover for the Aerospace Forces helicopters sent to rescue him.

Of the three Aerospace Forces helicopters sent to rescue Captain Murahtin however, MoD experts in this report say, one was destroyed by a US missile fired by Islamic State terrorists killing Naval Infantry Soldier (Marine) Alexandr Pozynich.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=nFPVNceRy3w

With MoD satellite data proving that the Su-24M bomber was about 1,000 meters (3,280 feet) in Syrian airspace when it was shot down, this report continues, Turkey then “absurdly” claimed that it had violated its airspace up to a depth of 2.19 kilometers (1.36 miles) for about 17 seconds and had been warned to change its heading 10 times—which would have been impossible as a normal plane-to-plane single “communication transfer” takes at least 45 seconds to occur.

Also, this report notes, with Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan stating in 2012 that a “short-term border violation can never be a pretext for attack”, this disaster became even more bizarre when Turkey yesterday, in a letter to the UN Security Council, openly stated that it had shot down the Su-24M and even admitted it had ordered the attack on the rescue mission for the downed pilots.

Though Prime Minister Erdogan has yet to contact President Putin, this report says, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov did discuss this disaster with his Turkish counterpart Mevlut Cavusoglu, who assured Russia that Turkey wants to preserve friendly ties with Moscow, and to which Minister Lavrov replied that the Federation was not planning a war against Turkey.

Based on the MoD analysis in this report though, Foreign Minister Lavrov further stated: “We have serious doubts that this act was unintentional. It looks very much like a preplanned provocation.”

MoD intelligence experts in this report further support Minister Lavrov by noting it was not a coincidence that a Turkish film crew captured this shootdown either as they were most likely tipped off to be at the right place at the right time—a fact undisputed by even American observers.

Critical to note too, this report says, this disaster occurred just days after Turkish officials warned Russia to “immediately end its operation” against these Islamic State terrorists—and which we, in our 23 November report, Putin Declares ISIS On “Brink Of Total Defeat”, Warns NATO War Has Been “Total Lie”, noted the MoD’s grave concerns by stating: “To if the United States led NATO will intervene to protect their Islamic State allies against total defeat and risk World War III with Russia and China, this report warns, is the greatest unanswered question now facing the Federation.”

With the CIA having now plotted with certain elements within Turkey to provoke a larger war, this report concludes, President Putin ordered this morning that the previous agreement with the United States is now suspended and that the much feared S-400 defense missile system will now be deployed to the Hmeymim airbase in Syria—whose missiles have a range of 250 kilometers (155 miles) [the Turkish border, at its closest, is less than 50 miles away], and when combined with the airspace defense provided by the Moskva naval cruiser, will now spell certain death for any other Turkish-CIA-NATO aircraft should they ever again attempt to target a Federation warplane. link

[giovonni]

Could Russian submarines cut off the internet ?

Life During Wartime

Talking Heads

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=obAtn6I5rbY

[giovonni]

hmm ...



RAF search after 'Russian submarine spotted off Scotland'

[Flash]

rough translation: the Russian heads of state do not hide their anger. Putin ask the russian people to boycott the Turkish beaches because of the "terrorism danger" in the country. - my comment, ouch, this will hurt the Turkish economy, lots of russians there.

The Russian Prime Minister reproached to Turkey its criminal actions, protecting the ISS militants and pocketing direclty from the sales of the petroleum sold by ISIS by the Turkish heads of state.

In other part of the article, François Mitterand, president of France, is asking Turkey to cool it as well.

Et les dirigeants russes ne cachent pas leur colère.

Le président russe Vladimir Poutine, après avoir dénoncé mardi un « coup de poignard dans le dos de la part des complices des terroristes », a appelé ses concitoyens à boycotter les plages turques face au « danger terroriste » dans le pays.

Son premier ministre Dmitri Medvedev a reproché à Ankara ses « actions absurdes et criminelles ». Il a encore accusé la Turquie de « protéger les militants du groupe État islamique » et souligné « l'intérêt financier direct de certains responsables turcs » dans la vente du pétrole brut produit dans des zones contrôlées par les djihadistes.

Les médias russes, indignés par l'attitude d'Ankara, ont toutefois appelé les pouvoirs publics à la prudence face à l'escalade militaire et les risques pour l'économie.http://www.lapresse.ca/international...planifiee-.php

Posted by giovonni (here)
hmm ...



RAF search after 'Russian submarine spotted off Scotland'

from the article above by Giovonni: We do not discuss the detail of maritime operations."

There have been previous concerns that Russia could be developing plans to have submarines sever key internet communications during future wars, following a spike in its naval activity near the locations of undersea cables.