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    Can someone kindly explain this phenomonen..... turn music down it sucks. A few different people on the vid here and shows the frequent blinking and slit pupils under orange filter. Is this just a trick of the light??? Fast forward it thru




    These are the original vids to show not tampered with
    iref=videosearch***http://www.cnn.c­om/video/#/video/showbiz/2009/12/10/ctw.­connector.day.tori.amos.cnn?iref=videose­arch ***http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/­bestoftv/2009/11/19/am.iran.fourth.hiker­.cnn?iref=videosearch***

    Filters used: The orange-colored filter is inverse saturation. It's good at picking out color mismatches in the picture and removing interference from reflections. It allows me to identify the masking holograms and CGI overlays.
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    Can someone kindly explain this phenomonen..... turn music down it sucks. A few different people on the vid here and shows the frequent blinking and slit pupils under orange filter. Is this just a trick of the light?[/video]
    Just a couple of comments here, in case they're helpful:
    • Anyone who edits video will confirm that there's a lot of alteration that happens between the original 'raw footage' and YouTube. Editing, exporting, compression, uploading, conversion by YouTube to FLV format, and so on. During that process there's a LOT of loss of definition and all kinds of video 'artifacts' (visual glitches, pixellation, interlacing etc) can creep in. This happens with images, too, though to a lesser extent.
    • Some contact lenses can also produce various reflective and refractive effects under certain lighting conditions.
    Having said that: there may well be something weird happening sometimes. What always impresses me is not so much the eyes, but the TEETH. I really don't know how that can seem to change so much. I welcome other informed views from members who know more about video than I do.

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    Poor resolution quality videos like these that also include mp4 compression are always result of such glitches especially when light comes into play.
    Pay close attention at the eye pupils on some of the people and you'll see that it's actually 2 round pupils interlacing as one and similar distortions can be found allover their faces.
    And about the teeth well there are also abnormal natural formations. My dentist actually reduced the size of my canine teeth cause he though it gave me beast like appearance, i got really mad about him doing that.
    Later he showed me photos of his patients that had really scary teeth, very very beast like ...
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    My thoughts are; all the shots illustrated are close up, head shots. I suspect there is a mirror effect of the eye (shiny eye lens backed by the dark pupil) and what you are seeing as a vertical pupil is actually the reflection of the studio camera in the pupil.

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    Thank you Gentlemen (asume you are all blokes) I think I will still be looking for cats eyes in the populos anway. Maybe I should buy a pair of orange sunglasses to see if I notice anything lol

    Thanks again

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    Quote Posted by Orion.V (here)
    Poor resolution quality videos like these that also include mp4 compression are always result of such glitches especially when light comes into play.
    Pay close attention at the eye pupils on some of the people and you'll see that it's actually 2 round pupils interlacing as one and similar distortions can be found allover their faces.
    And about the teeth well there are also abnormal natural formations. My dentist actually reduced the size of my canine teeth cause he though it gave me beast like appearance, i got really mad about him doing that.
    Later he showed me photos of his patients that had really scary teeth, very very beast like ...
    Ok, let me add something extra as continuity to my previous post quoted here above.

    Lets look at some questions here. First many claim that these reptoids are using holographic technology to give them human appearance and mask themselves from the public and suddenly they are caught on some videos or tapes showing them revealing, usually the first signs here are the pupils.

    Ok now, assuming that a reptoid face/head structure is different from a human, how come their slit eyes appear on the same place where the human pupils should be placed taking into consideration that their head shapes and sizes are different and not in proportion to the holographic human head in relation to the eyes, distance between eyes, skull, forehead, jaw lines and so on.

    If they were to suddenly reveal their actual form by accident or technology malfunction then it would mean that you'll see their parts of the face appearing on different places in relation to the human projection, there is absolutely no way to simply say " aha! i saw their pupils and teeth, they are revealing themselves! "

    No, You wouldn't see their eyes and jaws appearing on the same place as their human parts projections, it is geometrically impossible.

    The only reason for this to be true is that they either have the same form attributes as human beings or they are some sorts of hybrids that somehow morph slowly into their form ...

    This post here is only valid for the discussion of this mystery that they appear on videos. My personal perception about this so called reptoids is quite different.

    What you think ???
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    yes, agreed. I think the reptoids are and entirely different species. But I think there is a clone or "almost human" amongst us. They may not even know it with brain washing and all those very ugly things they can do with ones mind. I just need to figure out how to spot them........

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    Quote Posted by witchy1 (here)
    yes, agreed. I think the reptoids are and entirely different species. But I think there is a clone or "almost human" amongst us. They may not even know it with brain washing and all those very ugly things they can do with ones mind. I just need to figure out how to spot them........
    Yeah me too, in fact i feel the urge to make a personal contact, not only spot them.
    If they do really exist ....
    I've heard reports about many types of reptilian races ...

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    Maybe we have some members willing to share???????????

    I am happy just to look on just at the moment...one step at a time Orion.V, Im not quite ready

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    Well maybe ... all in due time
    Oh btw, i just got across this video.
    Interesting, I've never seen report from this woman before.
    Time to dig in some more for information related to her and her story back in the 80's.

    Edit : hmm , youtube video did not load, nvm here is the link :

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ6DdrqbzKo

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    As someone who's done a fair amount of work defining the effects of video scaling techniques vs that of compression and expansion in video and audio, I'll tell you right now that artifacts in what was low rez video in the first place, do definitely create a certain invalidity to any attempt at further manipulation.

    Nyquist steps in and causes you tremendous grief. Nyquist (theorem) basically states that in order to successfully decode an image to another format or method/algorithm, you cannot be sure of what you are getting beyond a point of just under half of the original resolution or color space of the given pixel and the pixel adjacent to it. You have to start with high enough resolution images, otherwise you are wasting your time.

    To add, 99%+ of any world leaders,etc who appear on TV under artificial lighting are going to have patty-cake make-up on their exposed head and face skin in order to make them look best to the television eye. A color differential (compared to possibly some aspects of their exposed necks) will emerge under the right kind of filtering. This make up will likely have a totally different UV light response to that of their natural skin. Which will show up as an intensity artifact in some colors.

    I am absolutely NOT debunking, I'm just saying that these are the sort of pitfalls to watch for. (I also work with light reflection issues at the molecular level.)

    Bill knows these things about me (my profession and background) and he can vouch for that, to some minor extent, at least with regard to my statements being some sort of 'properly related to the subject - professional opinion'.

    I'll start looking at this stuff more seriously, if someone takes megapixel range of quality ORIGINAL RAW footage or stills and then applies each manipulation individually -and not stacked. For stacking the effects on one another causes severe distortions. It creates artifacts... and from that... any following manipulation creates...even more false imagery.

    Video presents special problems due to the sophisticated algorithms used for compression, even with high resolution (HD video) satellite feeds.
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    watched the compilation.
    I've seen lots of these really poor quality videos.
    this particular video is really stepped on.

    one: it appears that all of the subjects are lighted on both sides of the face (as is typical)
    creating a highlight on both sides of the eyes. the 'cat eye' effect is from the poor
    video quality. the essence of detail is gone, blurred.
    two: the teeth suffer the same fate from really denigrated video quality.
    tooth shape and shading is distorted, torn.
    I'd like to see one of these from a high quality video source.
    if so, the reptilian illusion would not appear.

    it's all foolishness.

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    There may well be true reptoid aliens living among us, but there are also a lot of unfortunate individuals born with genetic epidermal abnormalities of a less or more serious degree.

    First, the human eye, teeth and skin are all derived from ectoderm. That is, they are ectodermal structures. This makes sense, because the ectoderm, being on the outside of the organism, needs to specialize in order to create the sensory organs and teeth that are the first to come into contact with the outside world.

    Thus it should be no surprise that any congenital malformation early enough to affect the ectoderm as a whole may exert its influence on seemingly unrelated organs such as skin and teeth.

    In anhidrotic ectodermal dysplasia, for example, children have conical ("Dracula") teeth, fine thin hair (deformed hair shafts and bulbs), and poorly formed sweat glands, making them liable to overheat. Just because a child has an ectodermal dysplasia doesn't imply that the skin itself (epidermis) is involved.

    However, there is another group of hereditary conditions, the ichthyoses ("fish-skin"), where skin cells clump together to form "scales". Severe forms of these are very disfiguring.

    Google for "ectodermal dysplasia", "conical teeth", "ichthyosis" and click Images, or go to any medical library and read up. I am not familiar with "cat iris" related to any ectodermal dysplasias, so this may be one way to distinguish true reptoids!

    http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/sym/tooth_deformity.htm
    http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...cle/001469.htm

    However, more often the person will simply have "peg teeth" - ugly, malformed teeth thus prone to caries, with many gaps for this reason.

    The bottom line is that there is a large number of ectodermal dysplasias, some extremely rare and therefore poorly categorized, as a result of the many, many ways in which gene expression can go wrong. Some of the milder forms can be very difficult to categorize, the commoner forms are well defined even though rare, and the worst forms are often lethal at birth. Where teeth are affected they are usually replaced with dentures by the time the person reaches adulthood, so do not appear in photographs.

    It is important not to turn a well-intentioned quest for aliens among us into a witch hunt.

    (P.S. For the spiritually minded of you, ectoderm and ectoplasm are quite separate. )
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    I believe the reptons are well hidden underground and rarely see the light of day. (thats why they live underground! and have done so for eons) what we may have in our midsts are other beings or hybrids only discernable by a higher level of consciencness (Im cr** at spelling). Now that people are starting to believe in off planet races, we will probably see more and more efforts to distinguish / discern whos who on the planet. JMHO

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    Has any human killed a repton yet, im aware that sounds silly but ?

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    only in Dulce that I am aware of

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    Quote Posted by celt (here)
    Has any human killed a repton yet, im aware that sounds silly but ?
    St. George killed a dragon, for example. Who knows, it might have been a rep


    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    Nyquist steps in and causes you tremendous grief. Nyquist (theorem) basically states that in order to successfully decode an image to another format or method/algorithm, you cannot be sure of what you are getting beyond a point of just under half of the original resolution or color space of the given pixel and the pixel adjacent to it. You have to start with high enough resolution images, otherwise you are wasting your time.

    To add, 99%+ of any world leaders,etc who appear on TV under artificial lighting are going to have patty-cake make-up on their exposed head and face skin in order to make them look best to the television eye. A color differential (compared to possibly some aspects of their exposed necks) will emerge under the right kind of filtering. This make up will likely have a totally different UV light response to that of their natural skin. Which will show up as an intensity artifact in some colors.

    I am absolutely NOT debunking, I'm just saying that these are the sort of pitfalls to watch for. (I also work with light reflection issues at the molecular level.)

    [...]

    I'll start looking at this stuff more seriously, if someone takes megapixel range of quality ORIGINAL RAW footage or stills and then applies each manipulation individually -and not stacked. For stacking the effects on one another causes severe distortions. It creates artifacts... and from that... any following manipulation creates...even more false imagery.

    Video presents special problems due to the sophisticated algorithms used for compression, even with high resolution (HD video) satellite feeds.
    I can confirm that as accurate as well.
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