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    Default Dr Judy Wood: Most comprehensive research on what happened to the buildings on 9/11

    I think some of the Members will not agree with me, but so far for this is the most compelling research I've ever came across, also not for once I think about the building's remains and wreckages. As DR. JUDY WOOD says, 'First you've got to understand what happened and only than you can determine how and why it happened'. I like to know the opinion of Avalon Member on Dr. Judy Wood, I would very much appreciate if Bill Ryan give his view on this.

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    Default Re: Dr Judy Wood: Most comprehensive research on what happened to the buildings on 9/11

    Nice post Lasuh.Dr Woods findings certainly add another 'dimension' to the 911 discussion.

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    Default Re: Dr Judy Wood: Most comprehensive research on what happened to the buildings on 9/11

    I believe Judy Wood's research has been mentioned in other threads. Bill and others felt it was quite good.

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    Default Re: Dr Judy Wood: Most comprehensive research on what happened to the buildings on 9/11

    So glad you've discovered Dr. Wood. I think she should be mentioned more often around here so that members are introduced to her sooner.

    Bill, I know from previous posts, is a backer of this woman's work.

    Just do a "judy wood" search on the forum, or check "911" thread, or the Alternative Science thread.

    There's a lot out there about this woman's work!

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    Bill, I know from previous posts, is a backer of this woman's work.
    Not so much a 'backer' — but there's no reason I know to reject any of it, and every reason I know to listen to her carefully.

    Some people out there are trying to create a "Judy Wood vs Rebekah Roth" contest. Not possible. They're addressing totally different parts of the overall complex puzzle.

    Re the other 'contests', about the various means of demolition, it seems entirely probable that a number of different techniques were deployed, all working in choreographed sequence. For instance, the steel girders first had to be cut, like this...



    .. before the rest of the buildings could be 'dustified' by whatever exotic means. Judy Wood is simply talking about ow the h*** the dustification happened.

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    Default Re: Dr Judy Wood: Most comprehensive research on what happened to the buildings on 9/11

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    Thanks for posting Lasuh - I've seen it before but I want to watch it all again - saw the very first bit earlier and I was struck again of the incredible survival of the 16 people in Stairwell B in the North Tower -

    Then I thought - perhaps they were in 'the eye of the storm' - a place of calm - and wondered if the position of Stairwell B could be a clue..?

    And when that one fireman talks about a beam of sunlight coming in - could that be a clue? - that a beam of '''''something''''' created the hole but for some reason that bit was saved from destruction -

    Also could that big aerial or whatever it was on top of the North Tower have anything to do with Stairwell B being spared..?....was it directly above it ?

    Just having a ponder on those points...


    here's that part in the Judy Wood presentation in a separate video -





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    Default Re: Dr Judy Wood: Most comprehensive research on what happened to the buildings on 9/11

    An op within an op within an op. Possibly within further ops. The elite who perpetrated the event were in turn caught with their pants down. Magical beyond the technological, the ptb as we think of it were caught up in the spell, which was totally not their intent. Behind it all was the Nazi super-state, with every advanced scientific and esoteric means at their disposal. Neo nazi, neo conservative, neo liberal, NEO from MATRIX, connections connections.

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    Default Re: Dr Judy Wood: Most comprehensive research on what happened to the buildings on 9/11

    Thanks for the clarification, Bill. I for one think she's spot on - at least as far as "dustification" goes - and I agree with you that at least some other methods of de-struction were also employed.
    The prime example would be the collapse of Building Seven. That was not "dustification".

    And I, too, don't get the pitting of Rebekah Roth against Judy Wood - it's not an either/or situation - their stories mesh, they don't complete. People have to stop and think about what claims are being made before they can draw any conclusions. But that's an old problem.

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Fellow Aspirant (here)

    Bill, I know from previous posts, is a backer of this woman's work.
    Not so much a 'backer' — but there's no reason I know to reject any of it, and every reason I know to listen to her carefully.

    Some people out there are trying to create a "Judy Wood vs Rebekah Roth" contest. Not possible. They're addressing totally different parts of the overall complex puzzle.

    Re the other 'contests', about the various means of demolition, it seems entirely probable that a number of different techniques were deployed, all working in choreographed sequence. For instance, the steel girders first had to be cut, like this...



    .. before the rest of the buildings could be 'dustified' by whatever exotic means. Judy Wood is simply talking about ow the h*** the dustification happened.
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    Default Re: Dr Judy Wood: Most comprehensive research on what happened to the buildings on 9/11

    Judy Wood's work is worthy of study and consideration even if it may not ultimately meet the reliability test in the USA for the admissibility into evidence of expert testimony concerning the cause(s) of the destruction of the WTC buildings on 9/11/01. See, http://www.journalof911studies.com/r...eyVol40Mar.pdf

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    Default Re: Dr Judy Wood: Most comprehensive research on what happened to the buildings on 9/11

    While I was initially captivated by Wood's high quality photos and the interesting anomalies, I have come to reject most of what she offers.

    The #1 problem is the claim that the steel was dustified. It is a fact that workers spent months using torches, chop saws and thermal lances to cut up steel wreckage. The steel was hoisted with huge cranes, loaders and grapples onto trucks, which offloaded them onto barges which were sent to NJ scrap yards. Workers there spent many months cutting the big pieces into smaller ones to be loaded onto ships bound for China and India.

    What was sold to the east? Dust?

    Here are the facts (page 40) http://www.911conspiracy.tv/pdf/9-11...att_Nelson.pdf

    #2 is the toasted cars on FDR Drive. These vehicles were moved there with forklifts and loaders to clear streets early in the recovery operation. Look closely. You can see the rubber tire tracks perpendicular to the burned out hulks. Yes there were lots of burned vehicles on the streets surrounding the WTC, but we don't know what caused this. To suggest that it was a DEW missing targets, like she says happened at WTC5 and 6, is not science.

    I find her childish labels quite annoying. Fuming, wheat chex, lathering up, fuzzballs, cheetos and the others make me question just where her head is at.

    I guess people just want to be entertained.

    Please do your homework.
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    Default Re: Dr Judy Wood: Most comprehensive research on what happened to the buildings on 9/11

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    This video compliments the opening post nicely -

    Interesting discussion and lots of good still photos to look at while listening -

    A theme that runs through is about looking at the evidence, for example the insufficient amount of debris after what happened to the Towers and the activities of 'Perception Managers' on the internet and forums regarding 9/11 -



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    Default Re: Dr Judy Wood: Most comprehensive research on what happened to the buildings on 9/11

    When I look at the replies, I know that every one does not buy in the idea, there were certain aspects some does not agree with, but I believe that Dr. Judy Wood is an authentic person, that doesn't mean that I agree to everything she says, I'm an open minded person, and when it comes to Rebekah Roth, I think we should not pit one against the other, we should look into into both of their works so that we get a better understanding and wider view. Thank you Bill for your repy.

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    Default Re: Dr Judy Wood: Most comprehensive research on what happened to the buildings on 9/11

    Quote Posted by winstonsmith (here)
    The #1 problem is the claim that the steel was dustified. It is a fact that workers spent months using torches, chop saws and thermal lances to cut up steel wreckage.
    Judy did not claim that all the steel and concrete was dustified, just most of it. That left plenty for the steel workers to cut up, including from the other WTC buildings that weren't dustified, or that perhaps just had a hole in their middle dustified, as might be the case with Bldg 6. I also do not know of a reliable source for how much steel was cut up ... certainly official or main stream reports are not to be trusted.

    In other words, the question "Was the steel cut up, or dustified?" is a misleading question, just as such questions as "Was it thermite, exotic energy, other conventional explosives or whatever?" is misleading. Most likely, several kinds of destructive power were used, with various consequences.
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    Quote Posted by winstonsmith (here)
    While I was initially captivated by Wood's high quality photos and the interesting anomalies, I have come to reject most of what she offers.

    The #1 problem is the claim that the steel was dustified. It is a fact that workers spent months using torches, chop saws and thermal lances to cut up steel wreckage. The steel was hoisted with huge cranes, loaders and grapples onto trucks, which offloaded them onto barges which were sent to NJ scrap yards. Workers there spent many months cutting the big pieces into smaller ones to be loaded onto ships bound for China and India.

    What was sold to the east? Dust?

    Here are the facts (page 40) http://www.911conspiracy.tv/pdf/9-11...att_Nelson.pdf

    #2 is the toasted cars on FDR Drive. These vehicles were moved there with forklifts and loaders to clear streets early in the recovery operation. Look closely. You can see the rubber tire tracks perpendicular to the burned out hulks. Yes there were lots of burned vehicles on the streets surrounding the WTC, but we don't know what caused this. To suggest that it was a DEW missing targets, like she says happened at WTC5 and 6, is not science.

    I find her childish labels quite annoying. Fuming, wheat chex, lathering up, fuzzballs, cheetos and the others make me question just where her head is at.

    I guess people just want to be entertained.

    Please do your homework.
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    Default Re: Dr Judy Wood: Most comprehensive research on what happened to the buildings on 9/11

    I enjoyed the presentation, which I'd not seen before. Judy came over with a rather lighter touch than I've seen in some of her presentations or interviews in years past: a good thing!

    I particularly appreciated her very careful insistence that we need to collect evidence, rather than trying to selectively prove favored theories. In this presentation, she does just that... pointing out that there are a LOT of well-observed, documented anomalous phenomena that are really pretty hard to explain by 'normal' means.

    Any hypotheses of what happened to the Twin Towers have to explain everything. That's the foundation of scientific method. If something pretty weird that happened is NOT explained, then she suggests the hypotheses need to be revised or extended. That's the drum that she beats, and rightly so.

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    Default Re: Dr Judy Wood: Most comprehensive research on what happened to the buildings on 9/11

    It's been a very very long time since I have been back here. AE911 addresses her in this article. They make some salient points that I tend to agree with. http://911debunkers.blogspot.com/201...ruth_9853.html
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    Default Re: Dr Judy Wood: Most comprehensive research on what happened to the buildings on 9/11

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    Usually all the attention goes onto WTC 1 + 2 + 7 - but maybe Building 6 holds an important clue as to what went on that day...?

    This is a more recent interview with Judy Wood and in the last ten minutes starting around 1:17:00 - she says that she describes the destruction of the WTC area as a '''magnetic, electro, gravitic, nuclear reactions'''' event..

    that it was a nuclear process but not a nuclear bomb...

    and that a nuclear bi product Tritium (with a half life of about 12 1/2 years) was found in the base of Building 6 at 50 times the normal measurement -

    here's the video -





    Jeff Rense is a bit annoying but Judy doesn't let him get her too off track

    During the last ten minutes she talks a bit about John Hutchison's work and how that can include Tritium -

    how he creates a static field and within the static field he intersects various radio frequency signals -

    the more you look at pictures of Building 6 the more odd it appears - much blacker than any other part of the wrecked WTC complex - and it's like a black crater - that doesn't seem to have enough rubble but it does have some bits from the stricken North Tower in it - apparently some firemen called it 'the House of God' because of the crosses of metal found in it...


    So - - speculation - - - could Building 6 have been where a static field was created ready for radio frequency signals to be ''''applied''' to the Towers - ??
    and that's what created the molecular disassociation (dustification) and other anomalous happenings - like that man who was lifted into the air and the strange way the cars were affected ... and maybe those survivors in Stairwell B just happened to be in a radio frequency blind spot for some reason..?


    to be continued ---

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    Default Re: Dr Judy Wood: Most comprehensive research on what happened to the buildings on 9/11

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    More about Building 6 -

    there's some interesting comments on the forum Pilots for 9/11 Truth -

    http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/i...howtopic=20426

    from post 4 -

    Quote Not sure if you have read this interview with a Patricia Ondrovic an emergency medical technician [EMT] with the Fire Department of New York. From a Killtown interview:

    KT: You mentioned you were running west on Vesey Street, what happened after that?

    PO: I just kept running. I was aware there were other people running as well. After passing the cars on fire, I was trying to find someplace safe. I tried to run into the lobby of 6 World Trade, but there were federal police -- maybe 4 to 6 of them -- standing in the open doorways. As I tried to run in, they wouldn't let me, waving me out, telling me "you can't come in here, keep running." As I turned to start running west again, I saw a series of flashes around the ceiling of the lobby all going off one-by-one like the X-mass lights that "chase" in pattern. I think I started running faster at that point.

    KT: Did you hear any "popping" sounds when each of these flashes in the WTC 6 lobby were going off?

    PO: Yes, that part was like a movie. The pops were at the same time as the flashes.

    KT: Can you estimate either how many flashes you saw or how many of these "pops" you heard inside this lobby?

    PO: At least 6 before I was turned away.
    KT: Did you think these explosions in the lobby were maybe lights popping out as in an electrical surge, or did they seem more like explosives going off in a timed manner?

    PO: I immediately got the impression they were timed explosives. I have never thought they were anything else, not then, not now.

    KT: Have you ever seen a building being demolished with explosives on TV and was the flashes and pops similar to that?

    PO: It did remind me of just that. I had seen something on a Las Vegas c
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    mmmm ? A strange little tale about lights flashing and popping sounds...


    I read somewhere that Building 6 was evacuated 12 minutes after the first plane hit (IMO Planes did hit the buildings)...


    There's also the thing about Building 6 being in a strange blackened state before the South Tower... went...





    just running with the speculation for a minute - could a static field have done this to it..? or something similar..? that had to be done to prepare the area for the insertion of the radio frequencies......Hutchison style -


    the black crater in Building 6 shows up well in this video...






    '''9/11 A single Photo of World Trade Center Building 6 missing center''''


    Just a little speculation trip into the mystery of the destruction of the WTC complex -


    I think this is why Building 7 had to be demolished - because it was severely weakened and damaged by the field affects of what was going on - (it was the other side of Building 6) - perhaps it also got a frequency blast to get rid of it ? and the other buildings didn't fare very well - but if the Static Field and radio frequencies were a bit unpredictable beyond the main targets - the Towers - this might be what caused a lot of damage...?



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    Default Re: Dr Judy Wood: Most comprehensive research on what happened to the buildings on 9/11

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    This video compliments the opening post nicely -

    Interesting discussion and lots of good still photos to look at while listening -

    A theme that runs through is about looking at the evidence, for example the insufficient amount of debris after what happened to the Towers and the activities of 'Perception Managers' on the internet and forums regarding 9/11 -


    Well I'll have to say this interview sparks on some very interesting points. Had my attention at first. However I spot a serious problem with the use of NLP , Nero Linguistic Programming. This interview is a perfect example of how it works. This entire interview is designed to discredit Richard Gage and the A&E truth movement.
    The constant repeating the A&E omits evidences is total BS. Anyone that's fallowed A&E knows they state specifically that there is a lot of evidence from ALL the other buildings but A&E is focusing on specific evidences revolving around building 7 that they feel they can prove.

    While I don't rule out the possibility of exotic weapons being used, I feel this particular video talk show uses exactly what they describe in the beginning of the video as to how NLP is used.
    They use a mix of truths with leaving out facts, which is a form of misinformation, to paint a believable picture. In this case that A&E is deceptive by not covering evidence other than building 7.

    These disinformation propaganda professionals will stop at nothing to lead us astray.

    Oh one other thing that caught my attention, was the mention of lake of shock wave that would be associated with explosions, Seems to me the were eye witness statements to that very fact. So someone is lying???
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    This video compliments the opening post nicely -

    Interesting discussion and lots of good still photos to look at while listening -

    A theme that runs through is about looking at the evidence, for example the insufficient amount of debris after what happened to the Towers and the activities of 'Perception Managers' on the internet and forums regarding 9/11 -

    [video clipped - can be seen in previous post]

    Well I'll have to say this interview sparks on some very interesting points. Had my attention at first. However I spot a serious problem with the use of NLP , Nero Linguistic Programming. This interview is a perfect example of how it works.

    I expect it was just a typo but it's Neuro Linguistic Programming ....


    Quote This entire interview is designed to discredit Richard Gage and the A&E truth movement.

    I saw this before you made the edit and changed Gear to Gage so now you have beat me to what I was going to say - which was - if you got the name wrong it couldn't have been very good NLP...... lol.....but you have made the correction


    re your remark.....

    This entire interview is designed to discredit Richard Gage and the A&E truth movement.

    You are entitled to your opinion, of course but this was not my perception of the interview .... I saw it as a broader look at Perception Managers in general -

    Your perception was obviously different about the 'design' of the interview - meaning that it was deceptive....??

    You are arguing , more or less - that it isn't a certain individual from a certain group that is deceptive ---- but it is the interview itself that is ----?


    Quote The constant repeating the A&E omits evidences is total BS. Anyone that's fallowed A&E knows they state specifically that there is a lot of evidence from ALL the other buildings but A&E is focusing on specific evidences revolving around building 7 that they feel they can prove.

    While I don't rule out the possibility of exotic weapons being used, I feel this particular video talk show uses exactly what they describe in the beginning of the video as to how NLP is used.
    They use a mix of truths with leaving out facts, which is a form of misinformation, to paint a believable picture. In this case that A&E is deceptive by not covering evidence other than building 7.

    These disinformation propaganda professionals will stop at nothing to lead us astray.

    Oh one other thing that caught my attention, was the mention of lake of shock wave that would be associated with explosions, Seems to me the were eye witness statements to that very fact. So someone is lying???
    someone is lying about 9/11 ---!!!--- how shocking ---

    But who...?

    It would be naive to think that the 9/11 truth movement wasn't infiltrated - extensively infiltrated...IMO....to confuse, muddy the waters, misdirect etc etc.

    Different people would have different roles - some to present the really crazy ideas, some to be all professional and act as Gatekeepers to info... etc...

    As I posted the video I thought it was my duty to check it out after what you said seeing as that's not how I thought of it - so I just watched it again - and made notes -

    Richard Gage (or A+E) wasn't mentioned until 20:47...

    he got a further eleven mentions (in a 55:21 length video)

    and A + E (for 9/11 truth) got six mentions in total -

    The guy giving the interview obviously wasn't very impressed with Richard Gage - and did think that too much focus was given to Building 7 - but I don't mind if someone gives us the Heads Up on someone / something - I don't automatically believe them - but seeing as 9/11 is a cesspit of lies and deception it's sensible to take a look at prominent figures - and consider whether they are there to help or hinder...

    it was stumbling upon this video that made me look closer at Building 6 - I've no idea what A + E have to say about it - will be interesting to have a look sometime...


    you said...

    These disinformation propaganda professionals will stop at nothing to lead us astray.

    I agree whole heartedly ....but the never ending question is... who are they?

    And that's where our own personel critical thinking and judgement comes into it -


    anyway - although you have your suspicions and criticism - I hope you enjoyed the video -


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