Sesame Credit - Mandatory by 2020 (in China)

[6pounder]

just recived a message from a friend and i couldnt grasp the importance of this to be posted here. it talks about a new control system over people in china.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHcTKWiZ8sI

[Flash]

Very interesting.

Any supporting evidence other than this video???? I would not be surprised this happens in China, totalitarianism does that.

What I think is that America already does it, it is just more covered up, but with the tracking of all our datas, it is already done, with the exception that we have no points for it, and it is not open.

Posted by 6pounder (here)
just recived a message from a friend and i couldnt grasp the importance of this to be posted here. it talks about a new control system over people in china.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHcTKWiZ8sI

[meeradas]

Let's see it, right here:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=lHcTKWiZ8sI

[Terra]

Propaganda Games: Sesame Credit - The True Danger of Gamification - Extra Credits

China has gamified being an obedient citizen with the creation of Sesame Credit. The game links to your social network and gives you a score for doing things that the government approves of, but it also reduces that score for doing things the government disapproves of. Even your friends' scores affect your own, and being friends with people who have a low score will drag your score down as well. This insidious system applies social pressure on people to ostracize their friends with lower scores, either forcing those friends to change their ways or effectively quarantining their rebellious ideas. While many sci-fi visions of a dystopian future have centered around a bleak government that controls through fear, Sesame Credit shows us that a government can use gamification and positive reinforcement to be just as controlling. And it's real. While currently the system is opt-in, the government plans to make it mandatory in 2020. Once mandatory, it may give rewards for good scores or penalties for bad ones. And in the meantime, making it opt-in has already set the tone for the game: people participate willingly, so they find it fun, and they set a very high standard for what the "average" score should be. Already people have begun sharing their scores on social media.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHcTKWiZ8sI

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=lHcTKWiZ8sI

More info from the BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-34592186

Gamifying civil obedience is just the beginning. What if you were to bring the welfare system and a cashless society into the equation, or perhaps your browsing history?

The Chinese authorities are watching the pilot process very carefully. The government system won't be exactly the same as the private systems, but government officials are certainly taking cues from the algorithms developed under the private projects.

As a sidenote..

They Live! Notice the subtle photo selection for this article by the beeb? You don't even need magic glasses to read this!

[ponda]

Very interesting.

Thanks for posting.

[ponda]

More info at this link


China To Use Big Data To Rate Citizens In New 'Social Credit System'


How good a citizen are you? China hopes to answer that question for every one of its citizens with a numerical rating system based on their financial standing, criminal record and social media behavior. A new translation of the government’s plans for a so-called social credit system sheds light on how China aims to utilize "Big Data" to hold all citizens accountable for financial decisions as well as moral choices.

China’s plans to roll out a citizen rating system has been in the works for years. Rogier Creemers, a China expert at Oxford University, recently published a translation of a document circulated through various levels of government detailing the six-year rollout of the program. According to a State Council notice, the central government hopes to have every adult in China assigned a credit code in addition to a government-issued identity card by 2020.

“Accelerating the construction of a social credit system is an important basis for comprehensively implementing the scientific development view and building a harmonious Socialist society,” the memo reads, adding that it has “important significance for strengthening the sincerity consciousness of the members of society.” The "guiding ideology," the name of a subsection in the memo, states that a key principle of the system is "government promotion."

While using financial, Internet and other data to evaluate individuals is not a new phenomenon, China will likely be the first nation to do it publicly and have the systematization and rationalization for doing so down to a numerical index. In an interview with Dutch newspaper de Volkskrant, Creemers draws similarities to the former East German system but says the Chinese are taking it even further.

“The German aim was limited to avoiding a revolt against the regime. The Chinese aim is far more ambitious: It is clearly an attempt to create a new citizen,” Creemers said in the interview, explaining that the program will incentivize specific behavior. “This is a deliberate effort by the Chinese government to promote among citizens ‘socialist core values’ such as patriotism, respecting the elderly, working hard and avoiding extravagant consumption.”

In a more modern context, a closer comparison could be made with the U.S. National Security Agency's alleged data-mining project PRISM, which former CIA contractor Edward Snowden revealed as government access to user data at the country’s biggest tech firms like Google, Apple and Facebook. Whereas Silicon Valley execs denied knowledge of the data-mining scheme and said that if user information was being collected, it was without the companies’ knowledge, China wants its citizens to know they are being watched and that their standing in society will be affected by their behavior.

Unlike in the West, in China, cooperation between tech firms and the government is “symbiotic,” according to Creemer, and will likely continue when it comes to implementing the Social Credit System. “Government and big Internet companies in China can exploit ‘Big Data’ together in a way that is unimaginable in the West,” he said.

In fact, according to de Volkskrant, Ant Financial, one of Chinese e-commerce giant Alibaba’s subsidiaries, recently began its own rating system based on the spending habits of users of the popular Alipay service, which rates a person's credit on a scale of 350 to 950. Scores are based not only on a user's lending and spending numbers but also on what the money is going toward.

“If friends have a poor lending reputation, this reflects badly on the person, just as prolonged playing of video games,” the report explains. “Buying diapers indicates responsibility and scores therefore well.”

“It certainly feels about as Orwellian as your nightmares would have it be,” Michael Fertik, a Silicon Valley entrepreneur and author of "The Reputation Economy," told de Volkskrant. “It's exactly what any Command state would like to do with data.”

[dim]

so, i guess global awareness awakening begins to sting

[Carmody]

See? socialism, fascism --spot the difference. I dare you. Good luck. It can't be found.

Behind the capitalism of the west, hiding behind the over-cosumption, is the same desire, directions, and power of rule.

It's like talking about the difference between to types of scotch whiskey....when in reality, chemically and how they exist in the world..that they are nearly 99.99% identical.

We're dealing with parasites. Human parasites.

In all cases of all human cultural, political, academic, media, financial, religion and so on..whatever the given system or whole set of systems are.....over time..in evolution...all are overtaken, infiltrated...by groups of sociopaths and psychopaths who gravitate toward and into systems of energy and power.

They slowly merge and work together, using their slightly higher level of intellect and lack of empathy..in order to make a parasitical home and world of expanding power and desire, out of the blood and the bones of the general population.


"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein



For an evil person to get what they want, they have to risk themselves. In that moment of risk and probable exposure of such act.. to good people.... the good people see, as an overall group that they can probably 'back off' ....and not be harmed.

So the evil person is given the power of the moment. After a while, the system is so decayed that even the good person has no room to move, all quarter has been taken.

This is the evolution of human culture and societies, all due to a lack of understanding of these simple truths--- by the lack of a larger circle of logic and knowing, in the general public.


Such a final driven to condition... is the moment where despotic control as a unstoppable force is about to encounter revolution in the populace's form of being an unmovable object.

We are seemingly once again at the threshold of this situation, but world wide, in this case.

The macro and the micro of human social and cultural systems tends to follow this formula to the letter. Repeating, forever.

The trick is that world powers don't want you to understand their evolved game, so they keep it covered, they keep it secret. They do it as clandestinely as possible so the 'game world' they've built themselves....cannot be stopped ---and the general population ruins itself in false fronts of emotion and logic.


Fundamentally, down at the bottom, it's a simple case of the monkey/ape beside you seeing that your hole (that you poke your stick into) has more ants and it desires to nudge you aside a bit, or more....in order to gain access to those ants.

[ThePythonicCow]

There is also a Sesame Credit Mobile App for your iPhone or Android phone to get your free FICO credit score in the US (higher score means you are more credit worthy.)

[Constance]

There could be a game afoot that could do the exact opposite of this And it could be done globally.

For every time you say "no" to anything that oppresses you and you do something about it, or you head in the opposite direction to where the PTB want you to head, whether it be a not taking a manditory vaccination, not paying taxes, not voting, boycotting corporations, voluntarily helping someone else to build their home, inventing a free energy device that works and is distributed, growing your own food on sidewalks, joining a food kitchen, eating organic foods, recycling your rubbish etc ; you receive a credit that provides you with a tree to plant, or cannabis oil to cure someone with a disease, or your own plot of land to grow food upon, free alternative health treatments, free food etc
It could be backed by anyone and everyone who wants to support this. The more you act, the more credit you get. Your friends are alerted to what you are doing and inspired by your efforts and just by mere association with those acting, you receive credits.

[Pam]

Wow, this gives me a feeling of doom....we are already being led like sheep to slaughter with the much ado about credit scores....In the US the emphasis on competition and getting the best scores or being on the winning teams or having the most and the best is perfect priming for this kind of thing....Really think what this will be like. It is more hellish than the dystopian world of Orwell. Most people won't even know they have been had... It is a lot like PC, it becomes self censoring and the sheep will also sensor their own as well. I gotta give it to whoever came up with this. It is brilliant and yet it is the antithesis of freewill. Imagine how the government incentives will slowly turn to government restrictions if your "score" is not high enough. And of course the ones running the show will always have the highest of scores while the working class will have the strictest of criteria....this is just so very creepy.

[Pam]

Posted by Paul (here)
There is also a Sesame Credit Mobile App for your iPhone or Android phone to get your free FICO credit score in the US (higher score means you are more credit worthy.)

Once again, how friggin clever is that. Get folks used to the name and even download it . Even the the name Sesame seems so innocent....unless you think of it in terms of "open Sesame" which in the old Arabic tale is the secret phrase necessary to get into the cave that holds endless treasure. How ironic, I wonder if that is their secret meaning?

[KiwiElf]

Posted by 6pounder (here)
just recived a message from a friend and i couldnt grasp the importance of this to be posted here. it talks about a new control system over people in china.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHcTKWiZ8sI

And soon, the rest of the World - Welcome to the 4th Reich