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    Zuckerberg is often referred to as being “socially awkward” which is sometimes a nice euphemism for Asperger’s Disorder or for people on the Autism Spectrum. It is a sad fact that 1-2 children per 10,000 c are born Autistic (and that may be a very low estimate). The cause is controversial but many in the alternative community believe it is environmental and not genetic. Those with ASD have difficulty interpreting social cues, understanding emotion and may lack empathy for others and have restricted emotional capacity. Thus Zuckerberg is comfortable with the buffering the computer places between him and the world. He can be rude, crude and heartless because those are aspects of his personality. Unfortunately he has tapped into a large portion of the population who are neurologically just like him and thus the instant appeal of FB. Of course not everyone on FB is ASD and those who are neurologically typical, capable of normative forms of social interaction, like FB because it keeps them in touch with their grandchildren or is a vehicle for posting political views. Never the less Zuckerberg’s original intent was to find an alternate way to socially interact that did not rouse anxiety in him. It is a tragedy what is happening to human bodies and how the change in our bodies is changing our world. It may not take Hybrids long to change the world as well.
    I do not know where you are from or your age, but your statistics on autims are waaaay waaaay off.

    1-2 children born autistic per 10,000 was in the early 70's. It is now one in 60 in USA and some specialists think it will be on in two within 30 years.



    As of 2010 the rate of autism is estimated at about 1–2 per 1,000 people worldwide, and it occurs four to five times more often in boys than girls.

    Autism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
    I meant 1,000. thanks for the correction. My concern was more that I offend some people and my comment would not be very PC, but thanks for stats correction.

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    Thanks for that Carmody. I'm reminded of a story I came up with personally after watching The Matrix.

    A brief synopsis: The main protaganist lived his life much like Neo, completely unaware of its virtual nature. Once we get used to watching him and get involved somewhat in his life the camera would blur and zoom out of screen to re-focus on a group of people watching him on a monitor. They're concerned, discussing how they can bring him out without mental damage. Turns out he was one of the original programmers of the VR world who had been the first to try an extended stay.

    Now we are getting caught up in the new drama, how do they help him? They influence happenings that are just too strange, synchronicities, trying to trigger an 'awakening' etc. He notices them, and ponders for a moment or two but ultimately shakes off the feeling and continues his (unreal) life.

    As this progresses the camera blur happens again and we zoom out to resolve on yet another level. Now these people, different, almost transparent, are discussing how interesting it is that their experiment, their creations, are re-creating the same story in their version of reality.

    Level upon level upon level.

    As I could never resolve a satisfactory ending though this is as far as it ever got.

    Basically this new tech has the power to send asleep people even further into the labyrinth, can anyone see a power for good here?
    Greetings Ewan, Bill and all,

    I have a piece of writing along the very same lines Ewan, the idea of the watchers, being watched, being watched, as my prediction that reality TV will be the bulk of the entertainment produced for TV is manifesting. I imagine, for example that the TV show Gogglebox, that shows people watching TV (and is really quite entertaining) has a darker side, note the shows they are made to watch, certain programming gets hammered home repeatedly there, (just in case you missed it) and it occurred to me that today's TVs (we all had to go digital remember) are fully capable of recording the viewer and, for a price, the elites might be able to watch anyone they want, watching that or any other show, or not even watching anything so long as it's plugged in, without the subject's consent, of course it would make much better viewing than people that know they're being filmed. An amazing resource for assessing the zeitgeist and god knows what else. So it's interesting to me that I'm not having these ideas in isolation.

    As for Facebook I stopped cold turkey a few years ago and, indeed, it was like coming off a drug. I missed my fascinating feed of all things that interested me and the constant updates of far flung family, pics of the growing babies et al. But it had become so very invasive. I posted mostly 'wake up and see the truth' kind of stuff and used it more as an activist platform, whether this was why my inbox was constantly flooded with friend requests from complete strangers or not, the whole thing had begun to give me the creeps. One morning I woke to 64 friend requests and just deleted it having been reluctant to do so for months before that, but thinking about it.

    Later I saw the New Scientist article about the experiment on 700k users and knew I'd done the right thing. See Targets post here for more info, sorry don't know how to link to that without exiting this reply. We're all just Guinea pigs, but at least you can withdraw your cooperation if you become aware of it.

    My piece of writing does not have a satisfactory ending either, maybe with a consciousness revolution, but one has to get a grip on where all these layers lead first, probably right back to between our own eyebrows.

    meanwhile I can only watch as fabulous technological advances with fantastic potential for the human race get appropriated by the dark side over and again, to further our somnambulant slavery.

    Nonetheless, as witnessed by this thread, an awful lot of us will not go so meekly into those dark dreams but work tirelessly to create a more positive outcome for ourselves and others by taking full responsibility for what we have created so far.

    I joined Twitter after leaving Facebook and it's still my choice for activism and we have all seen how these tools can be used to out crimes against humanity and help to awaken the populace and maybe, Ewan, that's one of its powers for good. So trying to keep focussed on positive outcomes I continue with the assumption that everything I do, say or even think is observed by someone, somewhere. That's an interesting exercise in itself. If and when we can all face our own selves without shame we'll be well on our way to a better world.

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    this is a rather funny (and surreal) facebook story...

    i don't have a facebook profile. but my friend Jay does. most days, with a certain amusement, he'll read me the updates of a man i'll call James. we went to high school with James, and while we were friendly superficially, neither of us really liked him.

    it appears James has hit a mid life crisis: he's working out heavily, getting tattoos, eating an uber healthy diet, has changed his hair style dramatically and so forth. these arent bad things in and of themselves, but there is definitely a pattern. and we know this because he documents every f#cking detail of it on his facebook page, ie what he ate that day, how his workout went, how his tattoo is healing, do you like my new mohawk? etc etc etc

    although we get a good laugh out of James, this has been grating us for the last year or so. probably best to simply ignore it, but honestly it has become a bit of a fascination. it is a wonderful study on just how much of a tool one can reveal themselves to be. we've considered commenting in the past, but the irritating thing about James is that he is so tacky and self absorbed ..yet so lacking in self awareness that i fear we'd only confuse him..and our well thought out insults would simply fly over his head.

    one game James loves to play is the passive aggressive compliment game(of himself). for example, he recently posted something to the effect that men need to pay attention to their women...they need to get their faces out of their cell phones and engage their women lest they run off with another more interested man. he cites a moment that happened that very day when he arrived in a pizza shop, and as a phone distracted man was ignoring his girl, she was checking him(James) out with what he called "**** me eyes". see, its the ol self compliment wrapped in a disingenuous lesson. i know, it sounds harmless enough, but there are literally dozens of examples of this - he goes all confucius, but the lesson of the day inevitably ends up with 2 gorgeous babes in heat panting at his doorstep..

    and he's not above exploiting his niece for a little attention either. "ive got a date with the most beautiful girl in the world" he'll say, and there will be a half dozen sickening pics of them both sharing a towering sundae out of a single straw. again, sounds harmless, right? see, but you gotta know this guy a little to know what he's up to. after he got a million pats on the back for his sweetness, he began taking his niece out everywhere - bowling, to the movies, to the mall, the park etc etc etc, all accompanied by some pathetically transparent thing like "well, the niece lost her basketball game tonight, had to lift her spirits.." it got to a point where i couldnt even hear about it anymore...the embarrassment i felt for this man sent shivers up and down my spine. but still, he was so utterly shameless!

    even the death of a family member wouldnt stop him. this one takes the cake, i have to say. after James uncle had passed, he posted a pic of himself leaning up against his uncles grave in repose, eyes misty and looking off into the distance, one hand pointing at the heavens. it was simply astounding. it was as if he'd learned how to grieve by watching hollywood movies, and now he wanted to display his talent. i tried to imagine how the whole thing went down...it would have had to be planned! ("hang on, should i go arm to the heavens or not? head down or up? tears or no tears?.."). i know this fool!...he was thinking of his facebook page the whole time...

    this guy will go to the ends of the earth for a little attention...even if involves exploiting dead relatives. its unreal. and these are just tip of the iceburg things too....

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    ok, so several nights ago Jay calls me and says "i finally did it. i couldnt take it anymore.." i say "did what?" and he cryptically responds "just check out James facebook....look at the comments under such n such..."

    now, there is nothing subtle about Jay. there is nothing particularly clever or witty about him. he's very, very direct. he doesnt cloak his speech or writing in gobbeldygook. and this msg he left poor James was one of the more devastating things ive ever read. in its simplicity and directness, it was practically art. he picked this guy apart with clinical grace, called him out on all his sh!t, and at the end even offered his services should James want therapy. it was everything James needed to hear...but i have to say, despite it all, i felt very very bad for him. this msg was absolutely crushing.

    well, James had the msg down in record time. he must have something on his computer or laptop that alerts him to msg's and so forth.

    within minutes he sent Jay a private msg, politely declining his offer of therapy..and closing with this (paraphrase): "...and why should i care what someone like you thinks about me, someone i havent seen or heard from in forever, SOMEONE WHO KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT ME.." (i italicized that, he didnt)...

    jay: "know nothing about you??? i know what you eat every day, i know where you go, i know who youre with, i know how your workout went, i know.................."

    i don't think it even made a dent with ol James tho....

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    here's the weirdest part...and i just don't know what to think of it..so odd....

    that very night, around midnight, Jay gets a phonecall from James' Mom. she puts James Dad on the phone, who at first pretends to be James himself, before finally confessing to be James' Dad. nothing substantial is said, and they hang up after theyre found out...

    now, let me remind you, James is 38 years old. a grown man. he actually called his parents at midnight on a thursday to explain to them what happened on facebook. i'm going to repeat that: a grown man of 38 actually called his parents at midnight on a thursday to tell them what happened on facebook..

    and those parents, instead of driving over to James place to slap him with every ounce of energy they had, actually white paged Jay (who lives in Florida by the way) at midnight on a thursday, called him, and pretended to be james himself (why???) before hanging up in what i can only imagine was a bit of embarrassment...

    the skinwalker ranch has nothing on this mystery....

    anyhoo, ...Facebook..need i say more?
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    In similar un-minced words, Mike: 'Well, if one puts their dick in a vice, takes pictures of the in-situ, and then posts it on the internet with full personal details, one just might get an answer back...'
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    Quote Posted by Callista (here)
    Limor Wolf says:

    "There is possibly nothing wrong with a kindergarten, but it does matter who is the teacher in charge"

    This is a brilliant statement, Limor Wolf!! Sums up the whole human experience on this planet!!

    Thank you! (and thank you for expressing your thoughts so gently - I tend to be a bit more ascerbic and hence have made careful comments earlier)

    much love
    Callista
    Yes, this is very critical. We can see it even in our individual given local (to the reader) businesses. The owners do the hiring and then the employees emulate the mood, Stance, and psychology ----that the owners live via.

    That so-called Jesuit line, which turns out to come from Aristotle (Aristotle is like the 'Koch/Neocon/Ayn Rand' version of a neutral and correct Plato): “Give me a child until he is 7 and I will show you the man.”
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    Ive never bumped myself before. It's a pretty obnoxious thing to do. But i'm bumping this. Shameless, I know...but I don't care. I think this post slipped thru the cracks...which is unfortunate because it's a decent story and it took me 20 mins to write the damn thing. I think some of you will enjoy it. Sums up facebook pretty well.


    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    this is a rather funny (and surreal) facebook story...

    i don't have a facebook profile. but my friend Jay does. most days, with a certain amusement, he'll read me the updates of a man i'll call James. we went to high school with James, and while we were friendly superficially, neither of us really liked him.

    it appears James has hit a mid life crisis: he's working out heavily, getting tattoos, eating an uber healthy diet, has changed his hair style dramatically and so forth. these arent bad things in and of themselves, but there is definitely a pattern. and we know this because he documents every f#cking detail of it on his facebook page, ie what he ate that day, how his workout went, how his tattoo is healing, do you like my new mohawk? etc etc etc

    although we get a good laugh out of James, this has been grating us for the last year or so. probably best to simply ignore it, but honestly it has become a bit of a fascination. it is a wonderful study on just how much of a tool one can reveal themselves to be. we've considered commenting in the past, but the irritating thing about James is that he is so tacky and self absorbed ..yet so lacking in self awareness that i fear we'd only confuse him..and our well thought out insults would simply fly over his head.

    one game James loves to play is the passive aggressive compliment game(of himself). for example, he recently posted something to the effect that men need to pay attention to their women...they need to get their faces out of their cell phones and engage their women lest they run off with another more interested man. he cites a moment that happened that very day when he arrived in a pizza shop, and as a phone distracted man was ignoring his girl, she was checking him(James) out with what he called "**** me eyes". see, its the ol self compliment wrapped in a disingenuous lesson. i know, it sounds harmless enough, but there are literally dozens of examples of this - he goes all confucius, but the lesson of the day inevitably ends up with 2 gorgeous babes in heat panting at his doorstep..

    and he's not above exploiting his niece for a little attention either. "ive got a date with the most beautiful girl in the world" he'll say, and there will be a half dozen sickening pics of them both sharing a towering sundae out of a single straw. again, sounds harmless, right? see, but you gotta know this guy a little to know what he's up to. after he got a million pats on the back for his sweetness, he began taking his niece out everywhere - bowling, to the movies, to the mall, the park etc etc etc, all accompanied by some pathetically transparent thing like "well, the niece lost her basketball game tonight, had to lift her spirits.." it got to a point where i couldnt even hear about it anymore...the embarrassment i felt for this man sent shivers up and down my spine. but still, he was so utterly shameless!

    even the death of a family member wouldnt stop him. this one takes the cake, i have to say. after James uncle had passed, he posted a pic of himself leaning up against his uncles grave in repose, eyes misty and looking off into the distance, one hand pointing at the heavens. it was simply astounding. it was as if he'd learned how to grieve by watching hollywood movies, and now he wanted to display his talent. i tried to imagine how the whole thing went down...it would have had to be planned! ("hang on, should i go arm to the heavens or not? head down or up? tears or no tears?.."). i know this fool!...he was thinking of his facebook page the whole time...

    this guy will go to the ends of the earth for a little attention...even if involves exploiting dead relatives. its unreal. and these are just tip of the iceburg things too....

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    ok, so several nights ago Jay calls me and says "i finally did it. i couldnt take it anymore.." i say "did what?" and he cryptically responds "just check out James facebook....look at the comments under such n such..."

    now, there is nothing subtle about Jay. there is nothing particularly clever or witty about him. he's very, very direct. he doesnt cloak his speech or writing in gobbeldygook. and this msg he left poor James was one of the more devastating things ive ever read. in its simplicity and directness, it was practically art. he picked this guy apart with clinical grace, called him out on all his sh!t, and at the end even offered his services should James want therapy. it was everything James needed to hear...but i have to say, despite it all, i felt very very bad for him. this msg was absolutely crushing.

    well, James had the msg down in record time. he must have something on his computer or laptop that alerts him to msg's and so forth.

    within minutes he sent Jay a private msg, politely declining his offer of therapy..and closing with this (paraphrase): "...and why should i care what someone like you thinks about me, someone i havent seen or heard from in forever, SOMEONE WHO KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT ME.." (i italicized that, he didnt)...

    jay: "know nothing about you??? i know what you eat every day, i know where you go, i know who youre with, i know how your workout went, i know.................."

    i don't think it even made a dent with ol James tho....

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    here's the weirdest part...and i just don't know what to think of it..so odd....

    that very night, around midnight, Jay gets a phonecall from James' Mom. she puts James Dad on the phone, who at first pretends to be James himself, before finally confessing to be James' Dad. nothing substantial is said, and they hang up after theyre found out...

    now, let me remind you, James is 38 years old. a grown man. he actually called his parents at midnight on a thursday to explain to them what happened on facebook. i'm going to repeat that: a grown man of 38 actually called his parents at midnight on a thursday to tell them what happened on facebook..

    and those parents, instead of driving over to James place to slap him with every ounce of energy they had, actually white paged Jay (who lives in Florida by the way) at midnight on a thursday, called him, and pretended to be james himself (why???) before hanging up in what i can only imagine was a bit of embarrassment...

    the skinwalker ranch has nothing on this mystery....

    anyhoo, ...Facebook..need I say more?
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    Not the fault of FB, Mike. I think it's a phase immature adults need to go through, and where these phases might have spanned several lifetimes in the past, they can now be shortened, as with FB people will eventually be given a mirror to see themselves, the way Jay did to James.
    And James may be 38, yet still need his parents approval and backing. Some are much older than that.

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    lol.classic, mike... ^
    I think I know a few James' too.

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    I wonder how many members have facebook account? Don't use fb or twitter and was sad how Google made youtube adding a google plus which you need to have to make yoytube comments. My Google plus is minimized to bare bones though... It's nice to have an outlet though so a forum satisfies that for me. Even so many of a thread made on Avalon ends up as a search result on Google. Especially the ufo ones. I wonder how that happens with some Avalon threads?

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    Quote Posted by mojo (here)
    I wonder how many members have facebook account? Don't use fb or twitter and was sad how Google made youtube adding a google plus which you need to have to make yoytube comments. My Google plus is minimized to bare bones though... It's nice to have an outlet though so a forum satisfies that for me. Even so many of a thread made on Avalon ends up as a search result on Google. Especially the ufo ones. I wonder how that happens with some Avalon threads?
    Mojo, those threads end up as Google results because the aliens love to see how popular they are
    I think they reversed that needing Google plus to make YT comments -- I don't have that and can make them. Try it.

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    Quote the skinwalker ranch has nothing on this mystery.... anyhoo, ...Facebook..need I say more?

    Absolutely hilarious Mike. I especially loved "he picked this guy apart with clinical grace". Wish I could have written that line myself. I was larfing out loud.

    FB lets people play out their unceasing adolescences. I would say this is an American phenomenon but what's not American anymore ?
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    Wow that would be great if I could delete Google plus and still make comments on Youtube. They made it mandatory at one time to link google and youtube. This is the first anyone mentioned that. If they did, they sure didn't tell anyone.... I bet many others don't know and I was a holdout for so long but friends on youtube missed hearing comments so I gave in. Before clicking delete are you sure?

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    I also have avoided Facebook entirely. I remembered that the Consumer Reports article (a link I posted in Bill's thread about past-life facial recognition) had more info on how Facial Recognition was enhanced and developed by FB without consent of its users:

    http://www.consumerreports.org/priva...you-in-public1

    >>>"The scale is entirely different online. In 2014, Facebook published a paper on a research project it calls DeepFace (read “How Facial Recognition Works: The Ghost in the Camera”*), a system said to be 97.35 percent accurate in comparing two photos and deciding whether they depicted the same person—even in varied lighting conditions and from different camera angles. In fact, the company’s algorithms are now almost as adept as a human being at recognizing people based just on their silhouette and stance.

    How did Facebook get so good? Partly by harnessing the photos uploaded and manually tagged by many of its 1.5 billion users. And some privacy experts consider that a misuse of personal data.

    “Entities like Facebook hold vast collections of facial images,” says Gates, the UC, San Diego professor. “People have voluntarily uploaded millions of images, but for their own personal photo-sharing activities, not for Facebook to develop its facial recognition algorithms on a mass scale.”

    Last spring Carlo Licata, a resident of Illinois, sued Facebook, claiming that the company broke a state law, the Biometric Information Privacy Act, by failing to get his consent to storing, using, and sharing the data. Two other men later joined the suit, which is still progressing through the legal system.

    It’s not apparent what effect such lawsuits might someday have on Facebook and other companies that use facial recognition. What is clear, though, is that just a couple of states have been ahead of the rest of the country in grappling with the implications of the technology. “Illinois is on the forefront,” Licata’s lawyer, Jay Edelson, says. “Texas has a similar statute, although it doesn’t allow consumers the right to bring lawsuits if their rights are violated. Unless there is a new law that’s enacted, people in other states don’t really have many rights protecting the collection and use of their faceprints.” >>>"

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    * http://www.consumerreports.org/priva...-in-the-camera

    <<<"A facial recognition research project called DeepFace that was conducted by Facebook and described in a paper in summer 2014 used a computing architecture called a deep neural network. The project was an example of “machine learning.” Researchers didn’t tell the computer to take a predetermined set of measurements of each photo. Instead, they built a system that automatically analyzed millions of images, turned them into 3D models, and then figured out on its own how to pick out which photographs matched.

    The system was 97.35 percent accurate when applied to a publicly available dataset of more than 13,000 photographs collected from online news stories with uneven lighting, shot from a variety of angles.

    That kind of work has the potential to make facial recognition systems faster, more accurate, and easier to scale up to handle huge numbers of images. The computer would know which individuals appeared in almost any photo, taken almost anywhere—and do it almost instantly. >>>"




    Wow. We're now tolerant, or have become well-adjusted (maybe maladjusted) of no rights to privacy and insidious ubiquitous mass surveillance. Drip drip.
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    Quote Wow. We're now tolerant, or have become well-adjusted (maybe maladjusted) of no rights to privacy and insidious ubiquitous mass surveillance. Drip drip.
    Yes the masses are, but like yourself there are some that are not tolerant to the elitist plans and nefarious agendas...Lets keep waking some up person by person...

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    If one cannot see how distorted and uncool taking and then posting 2 dozen pics of oneself (look at me!) is when doing this, then we have very little chance of convincing them of this fact.

    The very definition of "cool" has been changed - for the worse - with Facebook and this look-at-me reality show culture. It embarrasses me to my bones to be a human sometimes. I'm eager to personally introduce myself to the aliens and emphasize that I have nothing...repeat *nothing* to do with current cultural trends..so please spare me the anal probes

    And I don't mean "cool" as a superficial thing either....I mean it more as an umbrella term for all things original, tasteful, creative so forth

    "Cool" also used to mean mysterious. It meant calmly and quietly knowing ones talents without feeling a compulsive need to splay them all over the internet. Remember when media stars were mysterious and a bit distant? When you didn't know all the details of their personal lives? Now, so called "stars" (reality) are famous for the exact opposite reasons - theyve sold out their privacy and exploited friends n family to make a buck and become "known". And the public has eaten it up....they wanna be stars too....so.they exploit their private lives as well on things like facebook. IT'S A COLLECTIVE SOUL ROT. FACEBOOK IS A SYMPTOM OF THIS DISEASE...

    Now, I s'pose there is a reasonable way to use facebook...but very few of us are capable of this. My Dad is on facebook. He's not obsessed with it. He'll use it now n then to tell friends when his band is playing etc. He has a few family pics up. Thats it. And there are many others like this. They use it to network, stay in touch with old friends, so forth. And thats ok. Thats cool. But the majority...

    I'll confess to playing voyeur now n again. It's interesting to see what old friends and classmates are up to now, how poorly theyve aged etc. I have my friends password and i'll sign in sometimes and look around...but rarely. The novelty is over. Here's the deal: everyone has the same exact life! ...went to school, got married, had kids, took a few vacations etc. Same thing, every time. The homogeny is staggering. Theres no risk, no gamble. It's all very stale and sterilized. Theres a mind numbing sameness that is massive in its implications. But mostly it's just really depressing...

    I see some old friends n classmates have been pretty successful...but even at my worst, health wise and financially, I wouldn't want to change places with any of them. Once you become interested in the bigger picture, theres no turning back...there no conventional life, no "selfies", no family photo in the burbs' etc. The red pill is the pill for me. The "cool" pill
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    Quote Posted by mojo (here)
    Wow that would be great if I could delete Google plus and still make comments on Youtube. They made it mandatory at one time to link google and youtube. This is the first anyone mentioned that. If they did, they sure didn't tell anyone.... I bet many others don't know and I was a holdout for so long but friends on youtube missed hearing comments so I gave in. Before clicking delete are you sure?
    Here you go Mojo - you still need a gmail acct. (I think) but not "plus." Now get that Mojo workin' on YT once again

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_te...ial_login.html

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    Just found this on FB

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    Wonderfully ironic that you found it on FB!!

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    Oops double post.
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    Hi Caliban thank you for the link.

    Quote Google is finally going to stop trying to make Plus happen.
    The company announced in a blog post Monday that it will no longer force people to use a Google Plus account to log in to other, more popular Google services. That includes YouTube, whose users have been howling for years about the Google Plus requirement. Soon they’ll be able to log in with a plain old Google account.

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