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    giovonni has already referenced this here and here, but I've just watched these myself and felt this topic really deserves its own thread.

    ***

    Here's Clif High telling a fireside tale. He maintains it's fiction — of course. But clearly, this really happened.

    The three parts are 7, 14 and 19 mins long. It could be far shorter, but it's quite fun to listen to.

    The culmination is in Part 3, but you ideally need the first two parts as an intro.




    Summary:

    Clif High (from HalfPastHuman.com) was invited back in 2013 to a private presentation of a new project initiated by a US defense contractor. His 'in' was because his father had many years back saved the life of a man who was now a General, and was involved in the project. Clif was also being courted to be recruited, because of his own software expertise. (He turned down the implied offer. This is why this story is 'fiction'.)

    What he learned about was a heavily funded project using advanced facial recognition software to identify the possible previous incarnations of 'people of interest' to the US government.

    To his astonishment, in the military contractor's presentation, David Wilcock was right there shown as being demonstrably similar, facially, to Edgar Cayce — something that's been frequently discussed in the alternative media. But for Wilcock to suddenly appear in the defense contractor's presentation was quite a surprise.

    Clif High said that the heavily-funded search was now on to identify living people not only from older photographs, but even maybe from medieval paintings and even older sculptures.


    Wow.

    I have some more to say about all this later, but do watch the three videos (again, Part 3 is the key one). Recommended, and most interesting. And — most certainly true.

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    Hi, All:

    giovonni has already referenced this here and here, but I've just watched these myself and felt this topic really deserves its own thread.

    ***

    Here's Clif High telling a fireside tale. He maintains it's fiction — of course. But clearly, this really happened.

    The three parts are 7, 14 and 19 mins long. It could be far shorter, but it's quite fun to listen to.

    The culmination is in Part 3, but you ideally need the first two parts as an intro.




    Summary:

    Clif High (from HalfPastHuman.com) was invited back in 2013 to a private presentation of a new project initiated by a US defense contractor. His 'in' was because his father had many years back saved the life of a man who was now a General, and was involved in the project. Clif was also being courted to be recruited, because of his own software expertise. (He turned down the implied offer. This is why this story is 'fiction'.)

    What he learned about was a heavily funded project using advanced facial recognition software to identify the possible previous incarnations of 'people of interest' to the US government.

    To his astonishment, in the military contractor's presentation, David Wilcock was right there shown as being demonstrably similar, facially, to Edgar Cayce — something that's been frequently discussed in the alternative media. But for Wilcock to suddenly appear in the defense contractor's presentation was quite a surprise.

    Clif High said that the heavily-funded search was now on to identify living people not only from older photographs, but even maybe from medieval paintings and even older sculptures.


    Wow.

    I have some more to say about all this later, but do watch the three videos (again, Part 3 is the key one). Recommended, and most interesting. And — most certainly true.
    Parkes did tell me that people who could have an impact on the reptilian or mantid or Cabal's agenda were followed from incarnation to incarnation, by any or all of these groups, their soul vibration being tracked. It they had ruined or hampered the agenda in previous lifes, everything was done in the present life to make all kinds of trouble to them to make sure they were not successful, or deactivated in their mission, or they were courted to try to have them change camp, or they were used and abused for all kinds of MkUltra trials and other stuff. In any ways, they were stopped as much as possible.

    However, if they had been helpful or were part of the group in a previous incarnation, they would be tracked as well to be reintegrated in the given group.

    Someone else also told me that for the dark Cabal, upon death, the soul was immediately forced into a new body to continue .... eternally... is this is possible. If the soul escaped from sudden death for example or for lack of prior preparation, then it would be looked for through different means, to find out where it reincarnated.

    Personally, I do not think souls could be forced into new bodies, it does need some resourcing between lifes. But i do think we emit specific personal soul vibration and this could be tracked.

    My bet: the cabal may have lost access to the reptilian technologies and are trying to replicate it. Or they have lost some of their people and are trying to get them back fast enough (thinking of the suicidal chain that went on following Shane's blog). Or both. If we are to believe all or any of this.
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    I've always had this theory that there are only so many different "models" of "people"; maybe it goes back to base genetics or something... but there are so many people that resemble historical figures or even other people currently alive... is that just because we have a limited expression of genetics (there only can BE so many visible variations) or is it something else....


    This is a pretty interesting concept, especially if it's being done in a predictive way (ie: you are now predictable based on who you were & apparently it's traceable by appearance) Is the visual aspect (facial recognition) just a cover for a different method of recognition?

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    Someone else also told me that for the dark Cabal, upon death, the soul was immediately forced into a new body to continue .... eternally... is this is possible. If the soul escaped from sudden death for example or for lack of prior preparation, then it would be looked for through different means, to find out where it reincarnated.

    Personally, I do not think souls could be forced into new bodies, it does need some resourcing between lifes. But i do think we emit specific personal soul vibration and this could be tracked.

    My bet: the cabal may have lost access to the reptilian technologies and are trying to replicate it. If we are to believe all this.
    Re-incarnation & trapped souls are sorta two sides of the same coin right? (one could be the cover or 'disinfo' for the other) I've never really bought into that much.. how does the population keep growing? who or what gets "a soul" ? too many questions there for me.


    "the white light" being a trap is an interesting concept that kind of lines up with the "trapped souls" idea
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    I watched the videos and clearly this isn't fiction. But, did he mention what episode of Max Keiser was the one talking about death? I'd like to watch that. Overall though, what is his point with all of this? That we can be blasted by a laser because we looked like someone from the past who they don't like due to their reincarnation facial recognition program?

    And how does this apply to identical twins or triplets?
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    Overall though, what is his point with all of this?
    Good question!

    My personal guess... though my own caveat on all this is that it's very deeply flawed on several major counts.

    Supposing they 'identified' you, or thought they had, as someone who many times in the last 2,000 years was a resistance leader of some kind, or a radical freedom fighter, or a pirate, or an outlaw, or maybe a traitor to your nation at the time.

    And suppose you're only 25, with facial features pretty much well-formed, but not yet your worldviews or chosen life trajectory. They just might immediately put you on a priority surveillance list for reasons you know absolutely nothing about — and which may not even be accurate.

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    Wow. Just, Wow.

    If I understand this correctly, he is saying that TPTB have access to alien technology that allows them to see their prior lifetimes? And this new facial recognition software gives them a tool to find their past enemies today? I agree with Lone Bean in the emotion that this is pointless. The whole point of reincarnation is a "do over". Is settling an ages old Vendetta that TPTB didn't know existed until they accessed alien technology worth it to them? to track or harm that person who has no clue ? Where's the gain? Just a grudge match?

    Bill, you should interview Clif High. Does anyone know his true identity or where he lives?

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    Overall though, what is his point with all of this?
    Good question!

    My personal guess... though my own caveat on all this is that it's very deeply flawed on several major counts.

    Supposing they 'identified' you, or thought they had, as someone who many times in the last 2,000 years was a resistance leader of some kind, or a radical freedom fighter, or a pirate, or an outlaw, or maybe a traitor to your nation at the time.

    And suppose you're only 25, with facial features pretty much well-formed, but not yet your worldviews or chosen life trajectory. They just might immediately put you on a priority surveillance list for reasons you know absolutely nothing about — and which may not even be accurate.
    Well, the difference between cabal and Dracos, again following Parkes, is that Drac know very well that you cannot kill higher souls, who may contradict and hamper your objectives, without dire consequences. That higher souls are needed to keep some kind of balance on the planet otherwise it is detrimental to Dracs as well. So they will damage them, stop them, or make sure they do not incarnate by stealing the incarnation process, but they will not kill them. However, for ordinary human, they could kill if they wanted to, but what is the use, they are not important to the agenda, just useful for loosh and food.

    If this is true, I am pretty sure human cabal would not give a dam about keeping enemies alive or not - they would just kill, period. Too stupid to understand the consequences.

    Your point Pray Peace is very interesting. Not having time to clean up after an incarnation and reincarnating too soon too often would make you become more and more corrupt. In other words, you need to wash up in between incarnation, or the program needs to be cleaned of viruses, otherwise the system gets to work wrong.

    Funny because someone in my immediate environment (not from forums) told me that people with heavy duty mental illnesses (not the chronically depressed, but the paranoids amongst others, psychopaths, some inds of schizophernics, etc) were in that state of mind because they were so crooked life after life (bad) that it had an impact on their incarnational mental health deteriorating.
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    Wow. Just, Wow.

    If I understand this correctly, he is saying that TPTB have access to alien technology that allows them to see their prior lifetimes? And this new facial recognition software gives them a tool to find their past enemies today? I agree with Lone Bean in the emotion that this is pointless. The whole point of reincarnation is a "do over". Is settling an ages old Vendetta that TPTB didn't know existed until they accessed alien technology worth it to them? to track or harm that person who has no clue ? Where's the gain? Just a grudge match?

    Bill, you should interview Clif High. Does anyone know his true identity or where he lives?
    Not alien technology, I don't think: just advanced military-grade facial recognition software, analyzing the muscles and facial structure round the ears, eyes, nose and mouth.

    Yes, I'm in touch with Clif High, or was — back in 2012, when he invited me to WA state, where he lives, to chat. (I was in Ecuador by then, so never took him up on his offer.) He was 100% convinced there'd be a pole shift on 21 Dec, and was building an unsinkable boat to survive the catastrophe.

    But I doubt if Clif would have anything more to add. He can't enlarge on this 'fictional' story, and he's unlikely to know very much more.

    *** One REALLY important thing to note here: we do NOT always look anything like like our past incarnations. Not at all.

    We can do... IF the body intelligence is the same (because that, as a spiritual entity in its own right, reincarnates, too). See this thread:

    The Body Intelligence

    But if we have a different body intelligence than previously (although like a cowboy and his/her horse, if it's a good 'team' combo, both parties will want to stay together across lifetimes if they can) — we will likely look nothing like our former body did. My guess is that these contractor guys don't understand very well the complexities of how this all works, and are quite likely to get things very wrong at least quite a bit of the time.

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    I have partial genetic matches to my life in the south during the US Civil war. I'm partially Canadian French in this life and mostly Louisiana French two lives back.

    I've spoken about this before, so I'm not revealing anything that will make my life more difficult than it already is.
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    Did Cliff also say something along the lines that we can't reincarnate into other races or change our sex? This might sound weird, but I have had dreams where I was a black person (and I mean very dark skinned) and was so happy to be black again. Maybe that means something or maybe not. But, I don't think that we are at all stuck with the same repetitive physical format and are in fact, encouraged to change our physical selves each reincarnation.

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    Another point, which I'm putting in a separate post, obviously, is that there are supposedly only 36 different facial types. That's it.

    Then, there are derivations of those types, as dictated by the given genetic mix.

    This correlates back to the 36 decans of astrology, is the point that may be surmised. (very limited data but very much worth the investigation.)

    The 36 types... as a limit, a limit which may involve the low number of original earth mothers. Which is disturbingly close to the number 36.
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    I have partial genetic matches to my life in the south during the US Civil war. I'm partially Canadian French in this life and mostly Louisiana French two lives back.

    I've spoken about this before, so I'm not revealing anything that will make my life more difficult than it already is.
    I have been French too for a few lifes at least (one as a man and I did not look at all like I do now, thin, short, ugly, starving), or a mix French Italian in the last one.

    Without better technologies and better understanding of the whole process of development, including inner and soul development, I do not think they will get anything right. And they cannot get to the soul incarnations and development, they are too way off cut from their own. This is a cul de sac for quite a while, I think.

    With face recognition, they go at it the wrong way. Soul vibrations detection would be much better probably and yet.... this too changes over incarnational learnings.
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    My experience shows it is true that we can see other lifetime faces in a current face. Once I opened a brand new history book at random, saw a picture, and immediately slammed it shut. I could not bring myself to open the book again for three weeks, for I had recognized my current husband in the painting I saw.

    Here are some pictures that all portray other lifetimes of someone I knew in this life. I recognize him in each of these faces. One of these - the last one - I was surprised to recognize on another planet in another incarnation, but with the same facial features.

    Attachment 32558Attachment 32559Attachment 32560Attachment 32561

    Clif High speaks of an experience he had, using the words enlightenment, flash of light, and then seeing faces of other lifetimes appear one after another. I am not enlightened but have been surprised to see, on one of my travels in the black ethers, a symbol that intrigued me. I flew up close to it and one quandrant opened up, and I saw it was crowded with faces of warriors and kings, and these streamed out towards me and I watched spellbound as face after face morphed into the next face in a long line of incarnations.

    And that was only one quadrant that opened up to my spiritual vision. We are vast souls, and our little personality incarnation is so small, but yet part of that vastness. I smile knowing the day will come when all people will be able to access these other parts of themselves.

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    Default Re: Tracking Enemies of the State across many lifetimes

    Quote Posted by Lone Bean (here)
    Did Cliff also say something along the lines that we can't reincarnate into other races or change our sex? This might sound weird, but I have had dreams where I was a black person (and I mean very dark skinned) and was so happy to be black again. Maybe that means something or maybe not. But, I don't think that we are at all stuck with the same repetitive physical format and are in fact, encouraged to change our physical selves each reincarnation.
    This may be of some interest to you about reincarnating into different sex's or races. Sorry if slightly off topic but may be of some use.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fmj3wzg4Ag

    Also, Clif High highly recommends this book to have a more deeper understanding of the topic of reincarnation, etc.

    http://thewordfoundation.org/b-Think..._Destiny.shtml (I am reading it now)

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    Default Re: Tracking Enemies of the State across many lifetimes

    Wow, fascinating thread. Thanks, Bill. I have studied this phenomenon before and remember this video from that time. Clif really adds a lot of "fictional" support to these types of claims.

    I don't find anything woo-woo about this concept. Seems completely plausible to me. Thanks for posting. Looking forward to more from Clif on this.


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    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    I've always had this theory that there are only so many different "models" of "people"; maybe it goes back to base genetics or something...
    Me too. I can remember from an early age, like around middle school, recognizing a common essence in people. I was incapable of articulating the feeling back then, but it was the idea of the different "models" of people. I would meet or know someone and years later meet someone with the same basic features and mannerisms who were thousands of miles apart with no familial connection - fascinating.

    This reminds me of the Ayurvedic idea of the 12 Dosha types. More info herehttp://www.naturesformulary.com/contents/dosha-test

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    Default Re: Tracking Enemies of the State across many lifetimes

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Lone Bean (here)
    Overall though, what is his point with all of this?
    Good question!

    My personal guess... though my own caveat on all this is that it's very deeply flawed on several major counts.

    Supposing they 'identified' you, or thought they had, as someone who many times in the last 2,000 years was a resistance leader of some kind, or a radical freedom fighter, or a pirate, or an outlaw, or maybe a traitor to your nation at the time.

    And suppose you're only 25, with facial features pretty much well-formed, but not yet your worldviews or chosen life trajectory. They just might immediately put you on a priority surveillance list for reasons you know absolutely nothing about — and which may not even be accurate.
    "and which may not even be accurate"

    I concur that. I want to believe that governments(!) do not have that much low IQ which will accept "reincarnation of souls/, spirits" addicted to same physical appearing.
    It always chose to ride same bodies, This look like too much pushed ideas on uncharted territory which comes from damaged minds.

    I could accept that if it comes like this.

    "Shape borrowers chose certain DNA bank for their clones."
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    Default Re: Tracking Enemies of the State across many lifetimes

    Hi TargeT
    Quote Re-incarnation & trapped souls are sorta two sides of the same coin right? (one could be the cover or 'disinfo' for the other) I've never really bought into that much.. how does the population keep growing? who or what gets "a soul" ? too many questions there for me.
    In a vid of Cliff High the other day (Title had Black Star in it)
    Well 3/4's through Cliff talks about the time between reincarnations. If you have a life crammed with knowledge and experiences you have a longer time to process the good and bad aspects of it, now add to that, we are coming into the brighter and nearer orbit back to the Black Sun where more energy and experiences are to be had. Well more people/souls are coming back now due to the coinciding of total experiences/knowledges from when they where last incarnated in the Silver-Golden ages.

    I guess if you had a massive amount of experiences and knowledge you might rest all the way round again, missing out the Iron and Bronze ages altogether!

    That would actually tie in with the idea that 'saucerers' sleep for thousands of years until they are really needed again!
    People/souls at the top end positions and wisdom within the Golden Age would defiantly be seen as saucerers.

    Anyway the Black-Star vid is very interesting.
    I will watch this posts 3 vids tomorrow, thanks Bill

    Adding:
    If you had such insight into your reincarnations, you could actually time and so reincarnate back into the late Silver Age or better still the Golden Age and have your supper powers and glorious life again

    Add to that:
    If you had a quick short life you would reincarnate sooner. You could be a powerful tool for short hi impact missions etc.

    Knowledge of previous lives and you place in them is why we are memory cleaned by TPTW where as they try to do the opposite!
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    So... so much for those fictional contractors' theory to have any practical results... yet someone is pouring tons of money in it...
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