Tracking Enemies of the State across many lifetimes

[eagle0027]

The movie I origins may be a clue...have heard retnal patterns follow lifetimes.Just traveled out of vancouver through the U.S. and had to take a closeup self pic as well as scan a passport which i would not doubt is a retnal scan.The alien roswell interview as well brings up them following their people here on earth through incarnations who are trapped here .
For those traveling to Roatan you may be interested in and pissed at being fingerprinted upon landing...like Honduras cares about your fingerprints.

Be well..Ed

[wnlight]

Flash: "Not having time to clean up after an incarnation and reincarnating too soon too often would make you become more and more corrupt."

I suspect that what we call time does not exist between incarnations. If there is any sign of corruption in the makeup of the next incarnation, it was likely planned.

[Karpos]

I don't understand how this is clearly not fiction. I believe in reincarnation, but clif high could be making this stuff up for all we know.

The Idea of the OP is interesting non the less.

[wnlight]

I agree with Karpos. I think Cliff High is pulling your leg, Bill. Even so, this has been a most interesting and amusing thread.

[eagle0027]

Totally believe it...wn light..from the perspect of the evil ,threats to their ongoing counterhumanitary evolution from reincarnated briliant people like Tesla or JFK to name a couple would really change the game.
One would conclude that those seeking reincarnates in the C. H. Situation are not doing it for the beterment of mindkind and probably of e.t.control or origin.

[earthdreamer]

I had just seen a scary article in Consumer Reports recently that highlights the invasive facial recognition tech coming our way (don't think they have any data on past life face software!)

http://www.consumerreports.org/priva...you-in-public1

"Facial Recognition: Who's Tracking You in Public?"


"New technology is moving into the world of department stores, casinos, and cruise ships—and even churches. How freaked out should you be?

By Consumer Reports

Last updated: December 30, 2015

The mall is crowded, including the department store that keeps your family supplied with everything from handbags to business suits. Moments after you enter, a saleswoman walks up holding a tablet. She smiles and greets you by name. Are you shopping for yourself or your spouse today? We’ve moved things around since you were here in December—let me help you find your way, she says.

This is how customer service works in a few high-end stores in Europe, and vendors are now marketing the underlying technology to retailers in the U.S. The experience relies on facial recognition—and whether it sounds appealing or intrusive depends on your perspective.

Here’s how facial recognition works. As shoppers enter the store, security cameras feed video to computers that pick out every face in the crowd and rapidly take many measurements of each one’s features, using algorithms to encode the data in strings of numbers. These are called faceprints or templates. The faceprints are compared with a database, and when there’s a match, the system alerts salespeople—or security guards if anyone previously caught shoplifting in the store is spotted walking the aisles.

A company called Herta Security, based in Barcelona, Spain, is one vendor of the technology. Its system is being used in casinos and expensive shops in Europe, and the company is preparing to open offices in Los Angeles and Washington, D.C.

Retailers that use the Herta system receive alerts through a mobile app when a member of a VIP loyalty program enters the store—the customers have previously agreed to have their photos entered into the retailer’s database. The screen displays the shopper’s name, a photo just taken from the video feed, shopping preferences, and other details.

For now, security is a bigger business than customer service, however. Herta’s software was used at the 2014 Golden Globe Awards at the Beverly Hills Hilton to scan for known celebrity stalkers. The company’s technology may soon help bar known criminals in soccer stadiums in Europe and Latin America. Police forces and national security agencies in the U.S., the United Kingdom, Singapore, South Korea, and elsewhere are experimenting with facial recognition to combat violent crime and tighten border security."

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".....many of us have become numb to the privacy intrusions of the Web. But at least we know we’ve gone online and can control whether or not we have social media accounts and what we share through them.

Facial recognition has the potential to move Web-style tracking into the real world, and can erode that sense of control. That’s what alarms privacy experts such as Alvaro Bedoya, the executive director of Georgetown Law’s Center on Privacy & Technology, and the former chief counsel to the Senate’s subcommittee on privacy, technology, and the law.

“People would be outraged if they knew how facial recognition” is being developed and promoted, Bedoya says. “Not only because they weren’t told about it, but because there’s nothing they can do about it. When you’re online, everyone has the idea that they’re being tracked. And they also know that there are steps they can take to counter that, like clearing their cookies or installing an ad blocker. But with facial recognition, the tracker is your face. There’s no way to easily block the technology.” "


Maybe we should all wear burkas with dark sunglasses.

[Sérénité]

Great thread, it's a candy shop week this week on Avalon for me, too much to read/watch and not enough time

[Shannon]

Fascinating and scary.

For some reason I would think that whoever the tptb are looking to seek and destroy already knows they're wanted. maybe?

[ghostrider]

The ETs ( the Plejaren) say reincarnation is a fact , the human being contains an immortal spirit that does not die or sleep in the deepest sleep, it records the thoughts, actions and feelings and tells the human being if they are correct if he has learned to pay attention to it ... They track/follow one particular line that goes back over 12 billion years... It began with Nokodemjon then - Enoch Isaiah Elijah Jeremiah Immanuel Muhammad and Beam , the seven prophets of the seven sisters... The technology is real , the message is always the same yet gets corrupted by evil men to control men, it's why history is guarded above all things... The ptb are very good at control, and tampering with things they really have no clue about...

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

A very interesting story this, but I have one exception to something Clif said, which also Lone Bean pointed out. It is my understanding and belief that one of the most important aspects of living multiple lives, is diversity of experience. It makes no sense to me, and cannot really work, if a soul is restricted to just one race, or even one sex.

I believe we have to experience life from almost every standpoint, background, culture, language, race and gender, etc, at least once at any rate, in order to gain wisdom and humility from all these differing growth 'templates' - to evolve through tribulation, transition, and ultimately revelation, until our lessons are learned. Accountability - Karma - also comes into that. I can imagine a hateful life time, in which one has been responsible for judging, harming, even persecuting, someone of a different race, gender, or lifestyle - and in the next life time experiencing the other end of it. Eg, a former Nazi experiences what it’s really like to live as a Jew.

[sirdipswitch]

Facial recognition software is an extremely spooky thing!!! I have mentioned on several threads that as a "long-haul" Trucker, traveling quickly back and forthe across this country, (U.S.) one will notice the close similarity in people. It soon becomes quite un-nerving to see the same people "everywhere" one goes!!!

I have had other drivers say high and sit at my table for dinner, only to discover half way though our meal that they really don't know me!!ccc.

I sure hope one of those cameras don't capture a crook that looks like me!!! Sure hope I have a good alibi at that time!!!ccc.

[robcarratello]

Regarding the govt being right about the ability to track people over time, in different incarnations: Whether they have it right, or wrong, the govt is clearly going to problem solve for potential negatives or threats and cover all bases.

I have a super buddhisty friend/ mentor that presented a body of evidence and rational/ logical argument that reincarnation is real. It also has resolved some of my own issues with believing that there is a creative intelligence whom actually cares about us/ wants to see good prevail; as opposed to a "hands off the experiment" attitude. For example, why tragic stuff happens to young, innocent children. What Clif says about the time between the reincarnation cycle being directly proportional to the amount impact or karma a soul had absolutely tracks with her understanding of how it works.

That are there are only "X" amounts of "molds" from which to cast a human physically is also very interesting. I tend to notice patterns in things, and have always felt like people generally fall into body types and bone structures. Does all that stem from the original earth mothers, or whatever? I am nowhere near educated on this to even have an opinion. Sounds good though.

Thanks for a great thread guys/ gals.

[Matt P]

I'm just shocked no one has posted this yet!

http://www.mypeace.tv/group/otherlif...d-barack-obama

[Sunny]

I used to read Clif High's website and download his "predictive linguistics" predictions. One day I read a description on George Ure's "Urban Survival" website of how the predictive linguistics works. If I understand it correctly (this is from my memory), it is something like this: We are all psychic and unconsciously we know what will happen in the future, so we are always dropping clues in our speech to what we unconsciouly know. Clif goes to a number of websites and forums and analyzes which words are used frequently in the posts. Then he writes predictions based on the words. For instance, if he found that many people were using the words "cheese", "car" and "health", he might make a prediction that "People having accidents while eating cheese in their cars could be a health concern." Forgive me if I have misunderstood his methodology, but after hearing about this, I stopped reading his website. I would take what he has to say with a grain of salt.

[Limor Wolf]

Posted by Sunny (here)
I used to read Clif High's website and download his "predictive linguistics" predictions. One day I read a description on George Ure's "Urban Survival" website of how the predictive linguistics works. If I understand it correctly (this is from my memory), it is something like this: We are all psychic and unconsciously we know what will happen in the future, so we are always dropping clues in our speech to what we unconsciouly know. Clif goes to a number of websites and forums and analyzes which words are used frequently in the posts. Then he writes predictions based on the words. For instance, if he found that many people were using the words "cheese", "car" and "health", he might make a prediction that "People having accidents while eating cheese in their cars could be a health concern." Forgive me if I have misunderstood his methodology, but after hearing about this, I stopped reading his website. I would take what he has to say with a grain of salt.

We do speak with our unconscious and sub-conscious mind many times, there's seems to be a whole lot of reality in there and it could have been interesting (and perheps quite scary) to have a brain more fully activated than just the little percentage it operates from, perheps this is an option for our humanity to go towards (but, voting for a heart fully functioning simultaneously!). But the science of our brain and bodies (and soul construct) may be so different to what we percieve as there are so many interferences and the numbers of players involved is ading up, so maybe Cliff High was not so off the charts in his assumption, Sunny

Freedom for the human race = freedom for all ~

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Sunny (here)
I used to read Clif High's website and download his "predictive linguistics" predictions. One day I read a description on George Ure's "Urban Survival" website of how the predictive linguistics works. If I understand it correctly (this is from my memory), it is something like this: We are all psychic and unconsciously we know what will happen in the future, so we are always dropping clues in our speech to what we unconsciouly know. Clif goes to a number of websites and forums and analyzes which words are used frequently in the posts. Then he writes predictions based on the words. For instance, if he found that many people were using the words "cheese", "car" and "health", he might make a prediction that "People having accidents while eating cheese in their cars could be a health concern." Forgive me if I have misunderstood his methodology, but after hearing about this, I stopped reading his website. I would take what he has to say with a grain of salt.

Yes, that's pretty much how it worked. My own take on it is that he was very often quite wrong (this can quite easily be seen retrospectively), and many in the alternative community — always hungry for predictions, especially those that sounded 'scientific' — were far too quick to accept uncritically what he was forecasting.

As I mentioned in my first post,

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

He was 100% convinced there'd be a pole shift on 21 Dec [2012], and was building an unsinkable boat to survive the catastrophe.

That tells us something. I'm not ridiculing the man — he's highly intelligent and means well, and when he stated in his haboo1 Part 1 video that most of the information believed by the alternative community is quite wrong [my paraphrase], he may himself have learned quite a lot over the years... in which case, kudos to him.

[gord]

I really admire this kind of fiction.

I'll add some random stuff that popped into my head while I watched the Clif High haboo1 videos.

I'll take the word 'State' in the title of the thread to mean 'cabal' or 'TPTB' - whatever. Just my viewpoint, because I'm anti-cabal, not anti-state.

I don't understand what mechanism would produce similar enough facial characteristics in a current incarnation to be recognizable as an incarnation previously inhabiting a different body unless the current one is at least distantly a descendant of the previous one.

I remember around 1983 some Tibetans showed up about 25 miles south of where I live looking for an incarnation of someone they somehow knew would be there. They declared him a recognized incarnation of someone important to them and this child (a pre-teenager if I remember correctly) was allowed to return with them. So, Tibetans apparently have some other means of recognition from halfway around the world.

I've been fascinated with all things related to Cayce since about 1973, when I was about 10, and I'm an ARE member. I understand that Edgar Cayce described a means, through some physical characteristic, of recognizing those who had been associated with him going into the very distant past. I don't know what that physical characteristic is, and I think it has not been generally been made known. It's probably why the ARE rejects the idea that David Wilcock was previously Edgar Cayce.

Of course the Cayce stuff says you can reincarnate to or from somewhere other than earth.

Since I long ago realized that absolutely anything can be used as a tool, a toy, or a weapon, I've wondered from time to time if the group of people who absolutely must have birth data for every person on earth, have been looking for recognizable patterns in natal charts, for clues as to who they might want to mess with, in the sense of a preemptive strike.

You have to wonder, if your higher self (or oversoul or whatever) is the real you, and is connected to all of your incarnations where there is no time, there might be a way for some or many of those incarnations to communicate (and used as a tool, a toy, or a weapon).

My opinion on the 'war across time': yes, and a very long and nasty one at that.

That's enough wild phantasmagorical speculative fiction from me.

[sigma6]

I'm surprised nobody added this one...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=t4ZzMkDLjWI

[Rhah]

Here are some relevant excerpts from W. C. Vetsch's book called "TEXT" related to reincarnation, and reincarnation tracking by the government:

KARMA AND REINCARNATION
Most people living on the Earth today have lived here for a long time - in other bodies. In a way of speaking, everyone here "lives physically forever" because they keep coming back over and over. But, because most people do not understand that life is continuous, they feel the present life is "special" and that they are "new creations" and they probably also feel that death is the "end" and so they want to cram all the fun they can into the present life. Such an attitude essentially GUARANTEES future lives here on Earth.

SECRET METHODS OF GOVERNMENTS
Tyrants and dictators who kill millions of people in their quest for power and glory do not qualify, under the Law Of Karma and Reincarnation to receive another Human body. They would normally be sent back as some lower form [dog,etc.].
Clearly, these wealthy evil masters do not want to be a dog or a cat or whatever - they want to continue to be human and they want to avoid being judged by the Angles of Death who come for the ordinary man and take him away to face judgment. With their gold and power and influence, they spend a good part of their energy on the goal of everlasting physical life in the Human form regardless of how seriously they have transgressed the Laws of GOD or how many innocent people they have killed and tortured to get to the position of power they are in. Enter the "steal-a-new-body-machine".
We call it this for want of a better word and it is an electric- magnetic device that creates the illusion of a separate Universe [unified field] in which things can be tailored to the wishes of the elite. Consequently, when a crooked politician ages and is near death, he goes to the secret underground center where this equipment is set up.
In the artificially created universe are only three things: The old man, a "freshly pregnant girl" and the unborn child of the girl which, because she is "freshly pregnant" does not yet have a soul. The Law Of Karma, which is mechanical in nature, searches for the appropriate candidate for the reincarnation of the old man. If he would have died "in the open" this would likely be a dog, cat, rat, etc. to "reward" him for his life of evil.
However, the only possible candidate is the "freshly pregnant" girl's unborn child because the special fields generated by the "steal-a-new-body-machine" have "tricked" mother nature into believing that the Universe contains only the man, girl, and unborn child. The man is not available because his body is now dead. The girl already has a soul and so the only choice mother nature can find in this "fake universe" is the unborn child and therefore the crooked politician gets that body.
The process is reported to have reached complete perfection in the 1960's and is said to be now 100% efficient with no losses at all. If you get the feeling, when you watch government people that they are very arrogant, this is one of the reasons why. They physically live forever and their personal wealth consistently increases with time.

OPTION II
For politicians who do not like the "waiting period" [and apparently most do not], there is an alternate "steal a new body" method.
This method was developed by accident after repeated failures by Nicola Tesla to perfect a "Star Trek" style transporter. Tesla was able to transport non living things, but living creatures always turned up dead at the other end.
Eventually, occult advisors suggested that living things were dying in transport because only the physical part of the life form was being moved. The other four parts, the Astral, Causal and Mental "bodies" as well as the Soul, were not being transported and remained at the origin point.
Tesla did not solve this problem, but the "broken" transporter and the occult explanation gave rise to a new use for this "failed invention". It could be used to transfer from one body to another. In this process, two people [one who needs a new physical body and one who is going to be "screwed over"] are put into the transporter. The transporter dematerializes the physical bodies and rematerializes in reverse positions. The Astral [etc.] bodies do not move. No one dies because this time there is a support matrix [Astral, etc.] in place at the materialization position - but it is from the other person.
This is essentially "backwards" from classic possession where an adept separates his Astral body and moves it to look for a [stationary] physical body to take over. Here it is the physical body that is moved by the machine and the Astral is stationary.
The advantage is, of course, that you do not have to be any kind of "adept" to use this method. You just need the [top secret, of course] machine.
Getting a new body this way is described as "just as easy as stepping in to a telephone booth". The advantage is you get a new young body which you can "pick out" which is fully grown and ready to go. The disadvantage is that some sucker is going to have his young life cut short so you can extend yours.
However, killing people has never been a big moral concern for governments and their bigwigs.

REINCARNATION TRACKING
The Government is engaged in a program to identify all live human births that take place on the Planet Earth and record and document them.
One possible use of this would be a re-incarnation tracking system to identify people not by who they appear to be (the son/daughter of so-and-so ) but by actually assigning identification numbers to individual souls who will have more than one physical lifetime as a human being.
The most likely reason to spend money on this as a high priority project is to try to determine - as was done in the time of JESUS - where there is a newborn child who might be an important soul (a future leader) and then hurry up and kill the child before he grows up and poses any real threat to "the establishment".
There is no legitimate reason for the U.S. Government to want all the records of live births from other countries unless it is to compile some type of shared database for the use of all the countries in the "new world order".

Obviously I can't speak on the validity of the information presented in this book. But it certainly is a very, very interesting read. I will attach a .pdf file.

[Hervé]

Let me have a try at some ratatouille here:

Mix:

• how former, deceased lamas are tracked down in young children (mostly male) to get them back in the fold
• Steve Richards' "First-born rights"
• "Herod"'s elimination of all first borns to make sure he got rid of that pesky foretold Messiah
• ...

... how does it taste?