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    Default What are FEMA camps for ?

    Does anyone know or have any ideas on the ultimate intention of the FEMA camps ?

    I remember seeing a post on Avalon similar to this video but nothing since .

    Thanks in advance for any comments


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    Default Re: What are FEMA camps for ?

    They are for people with wild and paranoid imaginations...

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/mili...12805/4312850/
    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/FEMA_concentration_camps

    Google: fema camps debunked

    and rest assured.
    Last edited by Karpos; 16th January 2016 at 16:39.

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    Default Re: What are FEMA camps for ?

    Personally speaking will never go willingly. Here's why... the barbed wire on the fence is pointed in to keep people in not to keep others out. And the acronym FEMA wonder whos emergency is it?

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    Default Re: What are FEMA camps for ?

    I cant tell if youre serious. please advise... thank you




    Quote Posted by Karpos (here)
    They are for people with wild and paranoid imaginations...

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/mili...12805/4312850/
    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/FEMA_concentration_camps

    Google: fema camps debunked

    and rest assured.

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    Default Re: What are FEMA camps for ?

    Quote Posted by Karpos (here)
    They are for people with wild and paranoid imaginations...

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/mili...12805/4312850/
    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/FEMA_concentration_camps

    Google: fema camps debunked

    and rest assured.
    With all due respect, using Popular Mechanics to support your position does nothing, in my opinion, to give your argument any weight. Popular Mechanics also did a hit piece on 9/11 truth and have been proven a shill for the powers when they are called upon to be. Fool me once...
    I didn't read your link and can't speak as an authority on the FEMA camps but I would NEVER trust Popular Mechanics for much of anything of real importance.
    Knowing a little about FEMA's history doesn't exactly give me much trust in them and what they say, either.
    As for the rationalwiki link, that's just an opinion like anyone else's. That is no authority.
    And I'm just going to blindly trust the results corporate Google gives me and tells me to believe? The same Google in bed with our organized crime government?
    No thanks.

    Matt
    Fear is simply a consequence of a lack of information.

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    disclaimer it is claimed the article may be a hoax ?


    FEMA camps

    FEMA’s First Concentration Camp Officially Opens In Arizona

    http://nationalreport.net/femas-firs...opens-arizona/

    The Federal Emergency Management Agency has officially opened their first “Political Realignment Facility,” more famously known as a “concentration camp” or “death camp,” in an area southwest of Willcox, Arizona on Thursday, according to an official FEMA press release. The agency plans on opening another four such facilities in 2015, and plans to have twelve up and running before the 2016 elections.

    ('report' continues...)


    Edit by Bill: Yes, this is a hoax. http://nationalreport.net is a satirical, fake news site. Nothing there should be taken seriously.
    Last edited by Bill Ryan; 18th January 2016 at 12:12.

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    Default Re: What are FEMA camps for ?

    Pardon me for checking, but there seems to be a pattern to Karpos posts and wondering...did a rundown just the first 2 pages but it seems they are mostly contrary* to the OP or related to disinfo... there are just a few of what I would call "neutral."

    *removed negative for better wording
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    Default Re: What are FEMA camps for ?

    I'm serious as there seems to be a polarization (as you can already tell) on the subject and wanted everyone's opinion while using my discretion. I've identified with Matt And Mojo for over a year now.

    Thanks for all of your opinions and I'm looking forward to seeing more

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    Default Re: What are FEMA camps for ?

    Quote Posted by Karpos (here)
    They are for people with wild and paranoid imaginations...

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/mili...12805/4312850/
    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/FEMA_concentration_camps

    Google: fema camps debunked

    and rest assured.
    The disinfo on this site is usually a lot more subtle than this.

    I don't know what the camps are for but they are designed to keep people in not out

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    Default Re: What are FEMA camps for ?

    At face value fema camps are for emergency situations where large amounts of people can live until what ever crisis that happens is handled ... after that who really knows their true purpose ... if nothing happens then fema camps are a HUGE waste of money and resources ...
    Raiding the Matrix One Mind at a Time ...

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    Default Re: What are FEMA camps for ?

    Where ever your are in the government/secret government/cabal that controls the government (and all the levels in between), you've probably heard a different story, a different reason for FEMA camps.

    I you aren't too deeply involved and don't have any security clearances related to FEMA, then you have been told that this is mostly for natural disasters (e.g. Hurricane Katrina, the next huge Earthquake) etc. If you work for FEMA and a mid or higher level and have a better overview of the systems that are involved, you have probably been told that there is some type of inevitable national situation coming - it could be a virus that may require large numbers of the population been quarantined, or may be that there will be terror attacks in the cities and huge numbers of people want to flee them and don't have a place to go.

    Personally, I think there is even a darker more sinister reason and only a few really know what the real reason is (and I am not among them). Perhaps there are those that are more awake and aware and the secret Powers that Be want them segregated from the rest of the world. Or, perhaps there are some that have something in their DNA and need to be separated from the rest of the world. Or perhaps all those communications that the NSA has been intercepting and analyzing, perhaps that shows that there are some people are different, they may even be special souls who have incarnated here. Again, I don't know the real reason, but you have to understand that we are all being monitored and our differences are being measured and analyzed by the secret government, and when the time comes, we will all be treated differently, and for some of us, that will mean, being taken to FEMA camps if we can be located. Who knows if the FEMA camps will be a place of death, like Auschwitz, or if they will be a place of refuge. I think the latter is unlikely, and the only true place of refuge for the powerful will be underground, at Cheyene Mountain, and Stapleton Airport, or at their bases in the Ozarks, and other places.

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    Default Re: What are FEMA camps for ?

    .
    From http://infowars.com/leaked-u-s-army-...mps-in-america

    Leaked U.S. Army Document Outlines Plan For Re-Education Camps In America

    (the document is here: http://info.publicintelligence.net/U...settlement.pdf)

    A leaked U.S. Army document prepared for the Department of Defense contains shocking plans for “political activists” to be pacified by “PSYOP officers” into developing an “appreciation of U.S. policies” while detained in prison camps inside the United States.

    The document, entitled FM 3-39.40 Internment and Resettlement Operations (PDF) was originally released on a restricted basis to the DoD in February 2010, but has now been leaked online.

    The manual outlines policies for processing detainees into internment camps both globally and inside the United States. International agencies like the UN and the Red Cross are named as partners in addition to domestic federal agencies including the Department of Homeland Security and FEMA.

    The document makes it clear that the policies apply “within U.S. territory” and involve, “DOD support to U.S. civil authorities for domestic emergencies, and for designated law enforcement and other activities,” including “man-made disasters, accidents, terrorist attacks and incidents in the U.S. and its territories.”

    The manual states, “These operations may be performed as domestic civil support operations,” and adds that “The authority to approve resettlement such operations within U.S. territories,” would require a “special exception” to The Posse Comitatus Act, which can be obtained via “the President invoking his executive authority.” The document also makes reference to identifying detainees using their “social security number.”

    Aside from enemy combatants and other classifications of detainees, the manual includes the designation of “civilian internees,” in other words citizens who are detained for, “security reasons, for protection, or because he or she committed an offense against the detaining power.”

    Once the detainees have been processed into the internment camp, the manual explains how they will be “indoctrinated,” with a particular focus on targeting political dissidents, into expressing support for U.S. policies.

    The re-education process is the responsibility of the “Psychological Operations Officer,” whose job it is to design “PSYOP products that are designed to pacify and acclimate detainees or DCs to accept U.S. I/R facility authority and regulations,” according to the document.

    The manual lists the following roles that are designated to the “PSYOP team”.
    • Identifies malcontents, trained agitators, and political leaders within the facility who may try to organize resistance or create disturbances.
    • Develops and executes indoctrination programs to reduce or remove antagonistic attitudes.
    • Identifies political activists.
    • Provides loudspeaker support (such as administrative announcements and facility instructions when necessary).
    • Helps the military police commander control detainee and DC populations during emergencies.
    • Plans and executes a PSYOP program that produces an understanding and appreciation of U.S. policies and actions.
    Remember, this is not restricted to insurgents in Iraq who are detained in prison camps – the manual makes it clear that the policies also apply “within U.S. territory” under the auspices of the DHS and FEMA. The document adds that, “Resettlement operations may require large groups of civilians to be quartered temporarily (less than 6 months) or semipermanently (more than 6 months).”

    The historical significance of states using internment camps to re-educate detainees centers around the fact that it is almost exclusively practiced by repressive and dictatorial regimes like the former Soviet Union and Stalinist regimes like modern day North Korea.

    We have exhaustively documented preparations for the mass internment of citizens inside America, but this is the first time that language concerning the re-education of detainees, in particular political activists, has cropped up in our research.

    In 2009, the National Guard posted a number of job opportunities looking for “Internment/Resettlement Specialists” to work in “civilian internee camps” within the United States.

    In December last year it was also revealed that Halliburton subsidiary KBR is seeking sub-contractors to staff and outfit “emergency environment” camps located in five regions of the United States.

    In 2006, KBR was contracted by Homeland Security to build detention centers designed to deal with “an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S,” or the rapid development of unspecified “new programs” that would require large numbers of people to be interned.

    Rex 84, short for Readiness Exercise 1984, was established under the pretext of a “mass exodus” of illegal aliens crossing the Mexican/US border, the same pretense used in the language of the KBR request for services.

    During the Iran-Contra hearings in 1987, however, it was revealed that the program was a secretive “scenario and drill” developed by the federal government to suspend the Constitution, declare martial law, assign military commanders to take over state and local governments, and detain large numbers of American citizens determined by the government to be “national security threats.”

    Under the indefinite detention provision of the National Defense Authorization Act, which was signed by Barack Obama on New Year’s Eve, American citizens can be kidnapped and detained indefinitely without trial.

    Read a portion of the Internment and Resettlement Operations manual below.



    The following portions of the document make it clear that the policies apply “within U.S. territory” (as well as abroad in countries like Iraq and Afghanistan) and that domestic federal agencies are involved.



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    Default Re: What are FEMA camps for ?

    ...find it interesting that initially FDR used the word "concentration" camp during WW2 for taking Japanese Americans but changed it to the politically correct "Internment" Camp... I think someone realized how similar it sounded to the Nazi camps. Things havent changed much...

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    I logged into the forum thinking about the new tv show > Colony <
    It is well done and very disturbing but very curious how the HomeLandSecurity buggers are wearing red hats.
    Who else that we know wears red hats?

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    If the camps were for relocation, or some humanitarian reason, there would be no razor wire wrapped like it is. They wouldn't need all those plastic coffins there, and they wouldn't need crematoriums at some of the camps. They wouldn't need railroad
    cars with shackles inside them, without windows, and gas attached to them. The tracks run to some of the camps. Someone in a very high position in our country just ordered one billion dollars worth of more plastic coffins. Someone must be thinking that a lot of people will die. This is a Nazi design, right our of history. There were pictures of these things on the internet.

    Looking at the web sites, as I clicked on one of the above references, it says the camps are for refugees, and on the TV, it said they were for relocation.(Jessee Ventura TV program).

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    Quote Posted by Karpos (here)
    They are for people with wild and paranoid imaginations...

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/mili...12805/4312850/
    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/FEMA_concentration_camps

    Google: fema camps debunked

    and rest assured.
    this response doesn't fly, not with me. Anything under the sun Can be 'debunked'. But as long as your happy, Karpos, that's what is important.

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    Quote Posted by Karpos (here)
    They are for people with wild and paranoid imaginations...

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/mili...12805/4312850/
    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/FEMA_concentration_camps

    Google: fema camps debunked

    and rest assured.
    The disinfo on this site is usually a lot more subtle than this.

    I don't know what the camps are for but they are designed to keep people in not out
    this is my thinking, also. Karpos just sounds naive, not agent like
    “a complete understanding of reality lies beyond the capabilities of rational thought."
    ― Gary Zukav

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    ...A leaked U.S. Army document prepared for the Department of Defense contains shocking plans for “political activists” to be pacified by “PSYOP officers” into developing an “appreciation of U.S. policies” while detained in prison camps inside the United States.

    The document, ... was originally released on a restricted basis to the DoD in February 2010, but has now been leaked online.
    Bill, can you tell me when (about when) this was leaked online?

    If it is a hoax, it is excruciatingly elaborate.

    Good thing I'm an "anti-political activist." I'm sure that means I'm safe.


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    Well about four years ago a local channel in GA or MS wanted to do a interview about them outside the camps and filmed the infamous coffins lined all around on story high. Lots of video of people who drove to them and filmed them and like I said the media isn't given an answer about them also I think 60 minutes did one on them. Try key wording at Youtube and Wiki with "fema camp states" or "Fema camp coffins."

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    Quote Posted by robinr1 (here)
    I cant tell if youre serious. please advise... thank you




    Quote Posted by Karpos (here)
    They are for people with wild and paranoid imaginations...

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/mili...12805/4312850/
    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/FEMA_concentration_camps

    Google: fema camps debunked

    and rest assured.
    I'm serious. The FEMA camps thing is largely a hoax. The alleged camps have been investigated by skeptics, and shown to be normal everyday places. Some are prisoner and detainee processing camps, but nothing like supposed fema death camps. Go ahead and ignore the evidence that this is a hoax, and keep fueling a conspiracy that is used to make fools of people all too ready to believe anything that is anti government.



    =====

    The thing Bill posted is real though not as scary and definitely necessary...

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2012/05/17/...ernment-camps/
    Quote At the beginning of the Iraq war and even through the 2008 surge, there were few guidelines and regulations to help soldiers conduct these massive detention operations, according to a former military officer who conducted detainee operations in internment facilities in Iraq.

    "I would have loved to have this [field manual] five years ago," he said. The vast majority of guidance in the manual is intended for use in foreign theaters, he said, noting that only a handful of paragraphs from the 326-page manual address domestic operations of any kind.

    An Army spokesman, speaking on background, said the current spate of online postings had taken passages from the manual significantly out of context, conflating wartime operational guidance (such as psychological operations) with peacetime operations in which a limited number of the manual’s principals would be applied on U.S. soil, in exceptional cases such as during relief efforts after Hurricane Katrina.
    ====
    More on the Resettlement/Internment doc

    https://ameristroika.wordpress.com/2...-secret-files/

    ====
    Quote Ultimately, belief in FEMA detention camps requires one to conclude that nobody has ever escaped from one and told their story. It means believing that not one camp worker has breathed a word about his or her job. It requires assuming that not one of America’s 100 senators or 435 congressmen knows of the camps or, if they do, none is alarmed enough to call for hearings. It means believing that not a single ambitious journalist connected to a national media outlet has delved into this dastardly plan. And it requires one to assume that such innocuous things as the "FEMA Trucks" signs at the Maxwell AFB — in plain view of thousands of motorists — actually betray a terrible secret.[32]

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FEMA...spiracy_theory
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