The Big Short - a TRUE STORY... (as opposed to "based" on a true story)

[sigma6]

You can watch it here... this is so educational... and really well done...
It's watches just like a real movie! LoL
Wonder where Winston snagged this link? o.O?

The Big Short
http://rainierland.com/movie/the-big...m_medium=email

[Matt P]

My brother turned me on to this site a couple months ago and I admit I have watched a couple movies even though I can't help but think this is not a legal site. Or is it? I hadn't shared it with anyone because I wasn't sure.

Matt

[KiwiElf]

I think watching it is OK if it's just a licensed streaming service - downloading it? Hmmmmm

[Matt P]

Posted by KiwiElf (here)
I think watching it is OK if it's just a licensed streaming service - downloading it? Hmmmmm

Ah, thanks. It's weird...the site has no ads whatsoever. The streams have worked perfectly, with no reloads. I kept thinking, How do they make any money off the movies??

Matt

[Bill Ryan]

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I watched it the other day as well (it's also on The Pirate Bay as a torrent) — and yes, it's excellent. A very clever, captivating and highly entertaining movie. And yes, very real, as well.

More sober, but even MORE real, is the HBO TV film Too Big To Fail. That's as good as any Hollywood movie, very well made and with an all-star cast including William Hurt as Hank Paulson.

It faithfully follows the inside story of the critical days of the Sept 2008 bail-out, and shows all too clearly how very close the global financial system was to complete collapse. Like The Big Short, it's based on a best-selling non-fiction book of the same name by Andrew Ross Sorkin.

Watch Too Big To Fail here —>
http://veoh.com/watch/v221685298RyH4XC5

Download Too Big To Fail here –>
http://fcache.veoh.com/file/f/l22168...1a0684281e6f40 (207 Mb, right-click and Save As)

[RunningDeer]

Two trailers added. Second one MONEY MONSTER is out this May.
UPDATE: Three trailers

The Big Short Trailer - Christian Bale, Brad Pitt Movie

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=vgqG3ITMv1Q

Published on Sep 22, 2015

From the outrageous mind of director Adam Mckay comes THE BIG SHORT. Starring Christian Bale, Steve Carell, Ryan Gosling and Brad Pitt, in theaters Christmas.

When four outsiders saw what the big banks, media and government refused to, the global collapse of the economy, they had an idea: The Big Short. Their bold investment leads them into the dark underbelly of modern banking where they must question everyone and everything. Based on the true story and best-selling book by Michael Lewis (The Blind Side, Moneyball), and directed by Adam Mckay (Anchorman, Step Brothers) The Big Short stars Christian Bale, Steve Carell, Ryan Gosling and Brad Pitt.

MONEY MONSTER: George Clooney, Julia Roberts, Jodie Foster

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=-u2KTw69d-E

Too Big to Fail

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=E7YSrmRe9zY

[risveglio]

Of course no mention of the Fed and bad monetary policy. They probably would not have let the movie be made if it showed how the Fed created the problem.

Margin Call gives a better explanation of what happened but it is still fiction. To understand the real problem, you should watch the documentary Money for Nothing: Inside the Federal Reserve (2013)

I'll take this quote from Tucker when describing the Big Short, Hollywood is not going to tell the real story in a major motion picture.

Depending on the knowledge you bring to it, The Big Short—as entertaining as it is—can be extremely misleading. Not wrong. Just incomplete. Anyone who tries to sell an explanation of the 2008 financial crisis that does not mention the Fed is no more trustworthy than a trader who offered to sell you an MBS at top dollar in 2007.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by risveglio (here)
Of course no mention of the Fed and bad monetary policy. They probably would not have let the movie be made if it showed how the Fed created the problem.

Margin Call gives a better explanation of what happened but it is still fiction. To understand the real problem, you should watch the documentary Money for Nothing: Inside the Federal Reserve (2013)

I'll take this quote from Tucker when describing the Big Short, Hollywood is not going to tell the real story in a major motion picture.

Depending on the knowledge you bring to it, The Big Short—as entertaining as it is—can be extremely misleading. Not wrong. Just incomplete. Anyone who tries to sell an explanation of the 2008 financial crisis that does not mention the Fed is no more trustworthy than a trader who offered to sell you an MBS at top dollar in 2007.

See Too Big To Fail. The three principal characters are Henry Paulson (William Hurt), Ben Bernanke (Paul Giamatti), and Timothy Geithner (Billy Crudup).

It's well directed and extremely well acted, and as best I know, the story is pretty real. The Fed is right in there, with the USG, both with massive, imminent problems to find a way of solving, against huge pressure of time, before the whole house of cards falls down completely. They had just a few hours to glue it back together again somehow. And all the mistakes previously made are clearly delineated.

My personal take, by the way: the deep problems have in no WAY been fixed, and the entire thing will happen again, probably this year... but this time, unstoppably and catastrophically.

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Watch Too Big To Fail here —>
http://veoh.com/watch/v221685298RyH4XC5

Download Too Big To Fail here —>
http://fcache.veoh.com/file/f/l22168...1a0684281e6f40 (207 Mb, right-click and Save As)

[sigma6]

Posted by risveglio (here)
Of course no mention of the Fed and bad monetary policy. They probably would not have let the movie be made if it showed how the Fed created the problem.

Margin Call gives a better explanation of what happened but it is still fiction. To understand the real problem, you should watch the documentary Money for Nothing: Inside the Federal Reserve (2013)

I'll take this quote from Tucker when describing the Big Short, Hollywood is not going to tell the real story in a major motion picture.

Depending on the knowledge you bring to it, The Big Short—as entertaining as it is—can be extremely misleading. Not wrong. Just incomplete. Anyone who tries to sell an explanation of the 2008 financial crisis that does not mention the Fed is no more trustworthy than a trader who offered to sell you an MBS at top dollar in 2007.

That is such a stilted quote speaking out of both sides, what was said is accurate, but it didn't say everything?? ...Of course they didn't say EVERYTHING! (and never make production... ) Brad Pitt isn't that dumb (LoL!) That charge could be made of any summary of anything!??? o.O? a cheap technicality of a statement... if that's the best criticism they could come up with... that should tell you something right there... Since this critic is accurate.... but I don't think he gave a complete summary of what he is really saying... (lol..)

Then again, they did mention it, indirectly of course... the whole punch line is, and what they call out... exposing the the big financials as utter and complete liars and criminals, because they KNEW what was going on, and did it intentionally... the part where Gosling is saying they are so naive, they don't get it... is speaking about an entire corporation... Of course he wasn't the ONLY ONE... and at the end Carell's character is telling us clearly... (in a personal emotional context) ...THEY KNEW... (of course)

The whole dynamic tension of the story was that these guys were looking at and seeing something that everyone else was missing... (the emperor wasn't wearing any clothes) Despite everything in system saying this wasn't so... they had to fight to maintain their own sanity and logic... (anyone who invests knows this feeling...) what it means to take a contrarian position... it takes nerves of steel... hard won experience... insight/interpretation of the right data... (or inside information... a gimmick, trick, or lever)

What you have to appreciate, is that these big financials are in turn monitored and surveilled the SEC... so this is in fact, really pointing a huge finger at the SEC and the Fed. There is no way this could have gone on without their oversight and knowledge... same as Enron... It has been said the biggest crime of Enron was mixing private and public accounting... making public what should have been kept private (in trust) Like Winston said of Traficant, it wasn't necessarily all the anti Israeli sentiment... he public stated the US is operating in bankruptcy... That isn't allowed in public discourse... (breach of trust) They diddn't say this directly for obvious reasons... you have to use some imagination...

[risveglio]

Posted by sigma6 (here)

Posted by risveglio (here)
Of course no mention of the Fed and bad monetary policy. They probably would not have let the movie be made if it showed how the Fed created the problem.

Margin Call gives a better explanation of what happened but it is still fiction. To understand the real problem, you should watch the documentary Money for Nothing: Inside the Federal Reserve (2013)

I'll take this quote from Tucker when describing the Big Short, Hollywood is not going to tell the real story in a major motion picture.

Depending on the knowledge you bring to it, The Big Short—as entertaining as it is—can be extremely misleading. Not wrong. Just incomplete. Anyone who tries to sell an explanation of the 2008 financial crisis that does not mention the Fed is no more trustworthy than a trader who offered to sell you an MBS at top dollar in 2007.

That is such a stilted quote speaking out of both sides, what was said is accurate, but it didn't say everything?? ...Of course they didn't say EVERYTHING! (and never make production... ) Brad Pitt isn't that dumb (LoL!) That charge could be made of any summary of anything!??? o.O? a cheap technicality of a statement... if that's the best criticism they could come up with... that should tell you something right there... Since this critic is accurate.... but I don't think he gave a complete summary of what he is really saying... (lol..)

Then again, they did mention it, indirectly of course... the whole punch line is, and what they call out... exposing the the big financials as utter and complete liars and criminals, because they KNEW what was going on, and did it intentionally... the part where Gosling is saying they are so naive, they don't get it... is speaking about an entire corporation... Of course he wasn't the ONLY ONE... and at the end Carell's character is telling us clearly... (in a personal emotional context) ...THEY KNEW... (of course)

What you have to understand, is that these big financials are in turn monitored and surveilled the SEC... so this is in fact, really pointing a huge finger at the SEC and the Fed. There is no way this could have gone on without their oversight and knowledge... same as Enron... It has been said the biggest crime of Enron was mixing private and public accounting... making public what should have been kept private (in trust) Like Winston said of Traficant, it wasn't necessarily all the anti Israeli sentiment... he public stated the US is operating in bankruptcy... That isn't allowed in public discourse... (breach of trust) They diddn't say this directly for obvious reasons... you have to use some imagination...

I took one quote out of his review and it is 100% true. It's untrustworthy to not mention the fed when talking about the 2008 financial crisis.

[sigma6]

Posted by risveglio (here)

Posted by sigma6 (here)

Posted by risveglio (here)
Of course no mention of the Fed and bad monetary policy. They probably would not have let the movie be made if it showed how the Fed created the problem.

Margin Call gives a better explanation of what happened but it is still fiction. To understand the real problem, you should watch the documentary Money for Nothing: Inside the Federal Reserve (2013)

I'll take this quote from Tucker when describing the Big Short, Hollywood is not going to tell the real story in a major motion picture.

Depending on the knowledge you bring to it, The Big Short—as entertaining as it is—can be extremely misleading. Not wrong. Just incomplete. Anyone who tries to sell an explanation of the 2008 financial crisis that does not mention the Fed is no more trustworthy than a trader who offered to sell you an MBS at top dollar in 2007.

That is such a stilted quote speaking out of both sides, what was said is accurate, but it didn't say everything?? ...Of course they didn't say EVERYTHING! (and never make production... ) Brad Pitt isn't that dumb (LoL!) That charge could be made of any summary of anything!??? o.O? a cheap technicality of a statement... if that's the best criticism they could come up with... that should tell you something right there... Since this critic is accurate.... but I don't think he gave a complete summary of what he is really saying... (lol..)

Then again, they did mention it, indirectly of course... the whole punch line is, and what they call out... exposing the the big financials as utter and complete liars and criminals, because they KNEW what was going on, and did it intentionally... the part where Gosling is saying they are so naive, they don't get it... is speaking about an entire corporation... Of course he wasn't the ONLY ONE... and at the end Carell's character is telling us clearly... (in a personal emotional context) ...THEY KNEW... (of course)

What you have to understand, is that these big financials are in turn monitored and surveilled the SEC... so this is in fact, really pointing a huge finger at the SEC and the Fed. There is no way this could have gone on without their oversight and knowledge... same as Enron... It has been said the biggest crime of Enron was mixing private and public accounting... making public what should have been kept private (in trust) Like Winston said of Traficant, it wasn't necessarily all the anti Israeli sentiment... he public stated the US is operating in bankruptcy... That isn't allowed in public discourse... (breach of trust) They diddn't say this directly for obvious reasons... you have to use some imagination...

I took one quote out of his review and it is 100% true. It's untrustworthy to not mention the fed when talking about the 2008 financial crisis.

100% true? ... is 100% inaccurate by definition... also you wouldn't be able to make such a comment true or false if they had, because the movie wouldn't have been made public ... (duhhh) nice focus there...

[risveglio]

Posted by sigma6 (here)

Posted by risveglio (here)

Posted by sigma6 (here)

Posted by risveglio (here)
Of course no mention of the Fed and bad monetary policy. They probably would not have let the movie be made if it showed how the Fed created the problem.

Margin Call gives a better explanation of what happened but it is still fiction. To understand the real problem, you should watch the documentary Money for Nothing: Inside the Federal Reserve (2013)

I'll take this quote from Tucker when describing the Big Short, Hollywood is not going to tell the real story in a major motion picture.

Depending on the knowledge you bring to it, The Big Short—as entertaining as it is—can be extremely misleading. Not wrong. Just incomplete. Anyone who tries to sell an explanation of the 2008 financial crisis that does not mention the Fed is no more trustworthy than a trader who offered to sell you an MBS at top dollar in 2007.

That is such a stilted quote speaking out of both sides, what was said is accurate, but it didn't say everything?? ...Of course they didn't say EVERYTHING! (and never make production... ) Brad Pitt isn't that dumb (LoL!) That charge could be made of any summary of anything!??? o.O? a cheap technicality of a statement... if that's the best criticism they could come up with... that should tell you something right there... Since this critic is accurate.... but I don't think he gave a complete summary of what he is really saying... (lol..)

Then again, they did mention it, indirectly of course... the whole punch line is, and what they call out... exposing the the big financials as utter and complete liars and criminals, because they KNEW what was going on, and did it intentionally... the part where Gosling is saying they are so naive, they don't get it... is speaking about an entire corporation... Of course he wasn't the ONLY ONE... and at the end Carell's character is telling us clearly... (in a personal emotional context) ...THEY KNEW... (of course)

What you have to understand, is that these big financials are in turn monitored and surveilled the SEC... so this is in fact, really pointing a huge finger at the SEC and the Fed. There is no way this could have gone on without their oversight and knowledge... same as Enron... It has been said the biggest crime of Enron was mixing private and public accounting... making public what should have been kept private (in trust) Like Winston said of Traficant, it wasn't necessarily all the anti Israeli sentiment... he public stated the US is operating in bankruptcy... That isn't allowed in public discourse... (breach of trust) They diddn't say this directly for obvious reasons... you have to use some imagination...

I took one quote out of his review and it is 100% true. It's untrustworthy to not mention the fed when talking about the 2008 financial crisis.

100% true? ... is 100% inaccurate by definition... also you wouldn't be able to make such a comment true or false if they had, because the movie wouldn't have been made public ... (duhhh) nice focus there...

How is it inaccurate? How do you not mention the FED when talking about the financial crisis? I agree they couldn't have done it but as said in the quote, its misleading for the gullible that don't see the governments involvment in the problem. Duhhhhhhh

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by risveglio (here)

To understand the real problem, you should watch the documentary Money for Nothing: Inside the Federal Reserve (2013)

Thanks for the recommendation... just watched it. Excellent.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=B_Q6LazNIiA

[Ewan]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

My personal take, by the way: the deep problems have in no WAY been fixed, and the entire thing will happen again, probably this year... but this time, unstoppably and catastrophically.

I drew the same conclusion when it was apparent they are still doing the same thing under new packaging, though I couldn't predict any kind of time scale to it.

If people feel the need to invest in something try heritage seeds.

[AriG]

That was a great watch. Thank you! Interesting to note that Steve Carrell was pretty much typecast in his role as he was in 'The Office'. The Idealist. I am one of those too, so I recognize it. Seeing the injustices and wanting to right them. I guess we are all that way here at PA. Nonetheless, these money mongers have a lot for which to answer. I think the one line that was most poignant was when Brad Pitt's character stated, "when unemployment rates rise xxx, 40,000 people die. Fodder for thought.

[aoibhghaire]

I thought this gave a true representation of what really happened.

This post documents how Lewis' book The Big Short misrepresents what
happend in the Great Financial Crisis, turning villains into heros:
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/...nto-heros.html

and continuing efforts by Geithner to "steer the narrative":
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016/...big-short.html

[sigma6]

There were no heroes in this movie... they were just "market analysts" studying the markets... investors, looking for a way to cash in on the market, like all investors do... speculators, calculated gamblers, they know how to read data and crunch numbers... survivors in a jungle full of niche markets maybe... but not heroes...