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    This is what the EU just cannot allow. People thinking for themselves. Imagine, ..... thinking for themselves !

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008%E...nancial_crisis

    Above is link on what happened in Iceland in 2008, referenced in the above video posted by Herve. I remembered hearing something about it at the time. However I was too busy trying to save my own ass during that period to pay much attention.

    I worked in finance and mortgages as a loan originator and the 2008 crisis spawned the beginning of the end for me. I was never able to properly recover from the subprime mortgage robbery. Due to the crooks, it became almost impossible for anyone at the time to get a loan, which meant I wasn't making any money.

    For the record, I never originated a subprime loan in my life. I only did Fannie and Freddie loans; lots of FHA, VA and Rural Development loans.
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    Yellow Vest anti-government protest movement launched in Ireland - Calls for 'revolution'

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    Several hundred people have attended a protest in the centre of Dublin in solidarity with the French yellow vest demonstrations.

    The protesters in Dublin wore yellow vests and some had hard hats, while others tied scarves over their faces. The chanting was mainly anti-Government in nature.

    Those who gathered outside the Custom House overlooking the River Liffey before marching to Leinster House included pro-Palestinian organisations and socialist republicans.


    Others involved in the gathering said they were concerned about the use of fluoride in the public water supply.

    The "yellow vest" movement in France, which takes its name from the fluorescent safety vests French motorists must carry in their vehicles, emerged in mid-November as a protest against fuel tax increases.

    It soon expanded into an expression of rage about the high cost of living in France and President Emmanuel Macron's policies.


    Related:
    Watch what happens when Irish bank hires British security thugs to evict people from their homes
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    I wonder how much the contractors who manufactured the yellow vests, required by law, made? Usury, usury, usury.
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    Quote Posted by Valerie Villars (here)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008%E...nancial_crisis

    Above is link on what happened in Iceland in 2008, referenced in the above video posted by Herve. I remembered hearing something about it at the time. However I was too busy trying to save my own ass during that period to pay much attention.

    I worked in finance and mortgages as a loan originator and the 2008 crisis spawned the beginning of the end for me. I was never able to properly recover from the subprime mortgage robbery. Due to the crooks, it became almost impossible for anyone at the time to get a loan, which meant I wasn't making any money.

    For the record, I never originated a subprime loan in my life. I only did Fannie and Freddie loans; lots of FHA, VA and Rural Development loans.

    Yep they kicked the IMF out of the country after their failure to demonstrate loaning Iceland anything other than money of account book-keeping entries.

    They jailed all the corrupt bankers, business execs and politicians.

    Then they used the internet to canvass the entire populace (those who chose to participate) for nominations of those who merited running the country -
    selecting the 20(I think) highest polling and willing to accept the duty.

    Talk about radical!

    As an aside I'm fairly certain Iceland was one of the countries Winston Shrout and co. sent paperwork to explaining the true nature of the private side of banking and the creation of money of account.

    I know they sent paperwork to Ireland and I'm pretty sure they told the IMF to take a hike too.

    The problem with seeing what's going on the private side is that by definition it is not public knowledge.


    As to Deux Corbeaux's post above this man is talking of Citizen Initiated Referendums.

    An essential concept - imagine if all those protesters sat down and penned a letter to the parties concerned.

    People have lost the knowledge of the ability to contract.

    Under commercial law protest is dishonourable and gives the authorities the excuse
    needed to ramp up the violence.

    Don't get me wrong - I can see that passions are high but that never justifies dishonour.
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    I wonder how much the contractors who manufactured the yellow vests, required by law, made? Usury, usury, usury.
    They all have yellow vest in their car, no usury there, mostly not for demonstrations. Those are cheap vests.
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    Thanks Flash. I meant this.

    Make a law.
    Require people buy something (yellow vest).
    Award contract to a crony to manufacture the vests.
    Someone makes a profit off cheap yellow vests.

    We get had over and over and over.
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    Quote Posted by Valerie Villars (here)
    Thanks Flash. I meant this.

    Make a law.
    Require people buy something (yellow vest).
    Award contract to a crony to manufacture the vests.
    Someone makes a profit off cheap yellow vests.

    We get had over and over and over.
    Indeed, that's the way it goes with European laws/legislations: implement new regulations and standards everyone has to comply with like in construction, building codes, electrical norms, etc... cronies hired/contracted; competition given the flying finger... and about everything has to be re-done to comply with the new norms, codes, laws, etc...
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    Quote Posted by Valerie Villars (here)
    I wonder how much the contractors who manufactured the yellow vests, required by law, made? Usury, usury, usury.
    I'd be willing to bet a yellow vest, that the company is pretty cozy with the French government.

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    Quote Posted by Deux Corbeaux (here)
    This is what the EU just cannot allow. People thinking for themselves. Imagine, ..... thinking for themselves !

    Quote Posted by Deux Corbeaux (here)
    FRANCE HAS A MESSAGE FOR THE WORLD

    Empowerment is a beautiful thing.

    The yellow vest movement is the vaccine to this virus which is globalism (tptw).

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    How "Fake News" get to go around:

    'Macron... WHAT?' French TV channel France3 caught censoring photo of Yellow Vest protester's placard

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    Part of original photo (L) and screenshot of doctored image broadcast by France3 (R) © AFP / Geoffroy Van der Hasselt (L) / france.tv (R)

    TV channel France3 has "fixed" a placard held by a Yellow Vest protester, which urged President Emmanuel Macron to resign. The broadcaster explained that the sign was broadcast reading just Macron, due to a "human error."

    The unfortunate blunder occurred on Saturday during an evening news program that was covering the ongoing Yellow Vest protests.

    Among videos and images of the protests, France3 featured a photo supplied by Agence France Presse (AFP). It shows a couple of mounted police officers watching the crowds outside the Opera b uilding in Paris on Saturday. One of the Yellow Vests holds high a placard, reading "Macron out." Here's this photo.


    © AFP / Geoffroy Van der Hasselt

    Everything was the same in the France3 broadcast, except for a 'tiny' detail - the "out" part of the slogan had mysteriously vanished from the image.


    © Screenshot. france.tv

    The photo-doctoring did not escape sharp-eyed watchers, who promptly accused the broadcaster of "censorship." The replay of the program is publicly available online, and France3 acknowledged the blunder, blaming it on a "mistake."

    "There was no intent to hide the sign last night. It's a human mistake," the broadcaster tweeted, supplying the unmodified image. "We have identified the source. It will not happen again."

    It remains unclear how, exactly, one can doctor a picture in such fashion by "mistake." Aside from the uproar and accusations of Orwellian-grade censorship, the blunder triggered a wave of jokes.

    Some users "fixed" the picture for France3, doctoring it harder. Here's an example - the placard now reads "Long Live Macron!"

    Others mused over who might have been responsible for such an unfortunate "mistake." Some jokingly suggested that Alexandre Benalla, the embattled former security aide to Macron, might have had his hand in it.

    Benalla has been involved in several high-profile scandals. Namely, he was caught on tape getting up-close and personal with protesters earlier this year. Macron's aide was "helping" police to beat them ... while sporting borrowed police gear himself.



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    I don't have a working Video pc, at the moment, so cannot watch, but would like to say, Long-Live-the-Internet !

    And, although my worry is always the 'plug-being-pulled' it seems to me that the people in these protests have founded a network, which cannot be upsurped...

    I really regret being absent :-((

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    Quote Posted by Valerie Villars (here)
    I wonder how much the contractors who manufactured the yellow vests, required by law, made? Usury, usury, usury.
    Quote Posted by Valerie Villars (here)
    Thanks Flash. I meant this.

    Make a law.
    Require people buy something (yellow vest).
    Award contract to a crony to manufacture the vests.
    Someone makes a profit off cheap yellow vests.

    We get had over and over and over.
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    I wonder how much the contractors who manufactured the yellow vests, required by law, made? Usury, usury, usury.
    They all have yellow vest in their car, no usury there, mostly not for demonstrations. Those are cheap vests.
    Friends, consider VV's point from a different angle, let me use the example of the Breathaliser in France, ( Alcotest), before , well before any regulations, laws, building codes (regs) are published, tptb., have ALREADY set-up their cronies in the industries to produce the required stuff.... be this 'Alcotest' ( France, - you test yourself, thereby condemming yourself, if you're stopped ! ie., doing the police's work for them !) or, in the U.K., Traffic Cones, the only Plastic I know that reproduces, even when the 'workers' or on a weekend-off ! !

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    Quote Posted by Valerie Villars (here)
    I wonder how much the contractors who manufactured the yellow vests, required by law, made? Usury, usury, usury.
    Quote Posted by Valerie Villars (here)
    Thanks Flash. I meant this.

    Make a law.
    Require people buy something (yellow vest).
    Award contract to a crony to manufacture the vests.
    Someone makes a profit off cheap yellow vests.

    We get had over and over and over.
    Sorry Messieur ! here's the raw link..
    ( I might have messed up the format,. velly sorry... )

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
    France ponders using ‘last resort’ chemical weapon that can be smothered around Paris to keep Yellow Vest rioters away from key buildings as anti-Macron protests continue

    · French security forces could smother centre of Paris with debilitating powder
    · Chemical can be spread across area of size of six football pitches in ten seconds
    · Police desperate after five weekends of ‘Yellow Vest’ rioting around France

    Peter Allen – Daily Mail Dec 17, 2018
    { on http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=180661 }

    French security forces are ready to smother the centre of Paris with a ‘last resort’ chemical weapon in a bid to keep protesters away from key buildings, it has emerged.

    Astonishing revelations about the debilitating powder – which can be spread across an area the size of six football pitches in just ten seconds – highlights the increasing desperation of President Emmanuel Macron’s administration as it faces up to a law and order crisis.

    The country has been hit by five straight weeks of violence sparked by the Yellow Vests protest movement that has seen national monuments including the Arc de Triomphe ransacked.

    There were 168 arrests in Paris on Saturday alone as the demonstrators – who are named after their high visibility jackets – fought running battles with police, who responded with water cannon, baton charges and tear gas.

    Now senior officers have confirmed that some of the 14 armoured cars deployed by gendarmes contained ‘a radical device that was only to be used as a last resort’ against their own citizens.

    A gun-like distributor on the vehicles’ turrets can spray the powder over 430,500 sq. ft. in ten seconds, Marianne magazine reports.

    The high-density noxious product contains the same power as 200 tear gas grenades, and is designed to knock people out indiscriminately in an emergency.

    A source at the Paris police prefecture said: ‘If a large crowd forced barriers through the security perimeter, then the powder would be used as a last resort in order to stop them.’

    But it is sure to raise concerned questions among civic rights groups, as well as monitoring organisations, including the Hague-based Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, of which France is a member.

    Colonel Richard Carminache, of the Gendarmerie, confirmed that the controversial devices had ‘never been used in cities to my knowledge.’

    Each distribution would result in ‘a highly concentrated teargas cloud, the equivalent of 200 grenades in one go,’ said Col. Carminache, who added: ‘It’s best to run to get out’.

    Teargas is classed as a chemical weapon, and is actually banned from warzones, in line with international agreements.

    Yet French gendarmes and police – who have been criticised during the latest law and order crisis for acts of extreme violence against civilians – use it constantly.

    In Britain, teargas use is heavily restricted, and never used indiscriminately against large crowds containing men, women and children, as happens in France.

    https://www.spreaker.com/user/markwindows/yellow-vests-v-useful-idiots

    I have NOT watched this, currently Video Player does not work... { In any case,, listening to Mark Windows, I find annoying ! }

    Closing, I add again, I think it's only a matter of time, before the 'Forces of Law', start using A.D.S., whether on individual groups of Protestors, or 'En Masse '...
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    BREAKING: “The people’s win” Belgian Prime Minister resigns over UN Migration Pact

    By Laura Cat 18 December 2018


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    Belgian Prime Minister Charles Michel has said he will resign after facing a no confidence motion in his government. The decision can be seen as another result of the migrant crisis and especially the UN Migration Pact.

    The member states of the European Union have taken in the bulk of migrants since the 2015 ‘crisis’. The influx of millions of ‘refugees’, mostly seen as economic migrants, has changed the make up of EU member states’.

    Migrant criminality rising in countries where the number of migrants has also risen has given way to votes such as Brexit and the rise of populist politicians.

    The career ending UN Migration Compact has seen millions across the globe signing their names to petition after petition in at least half the member states demanding their governments not sign it.

    In Belgium we saw protests, including by the N-VA, Belgium’s largest party and part of the Prime Minister’s coalition, against the signing of the Migration pact.

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    Protest against migration pact adoption takes place in #Brussels
    The party announced it would leave the coalition if the Prime Minister would go to Morocco to sign the pact.

    Prime Minister Charles Michel did not change his plans and was forced to replace several N-VA minister in his government, which would now continue as a minority government.

    The motion of confidence had been put forward by the socialists and greens over his stubborn stance. Today he has announced to parliament,
    “I have decided to resign and will immediately go to see the king”.
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    French Generals Face Disciplinary Action After Accusing Macron of “Treason” For Signing UN Migration Pact

    By Paul Joseph Watson on December 20, 2018
    Paul Joseph Watson – Dec 19, 2018


    French generals who signed an open letter accusing President Macron of “treason” for committing France to the UN migration pact are facing disciplinary action.

    As we reported last week, a letter written by General Antoine Martinez and signed by ten other generals, an admiral and a colonel, as well as former French Minister of Defense Charles Millon, warned Macron that the signing of the pact strips France of more sovereignty and provides an additional reason for “an already battered people” to “revolt”.

    The letter accuses Macron of being “guilty of a denial of democracy or treason against the nation” for signing the pact without putting it to the people.

    According to a report by French news outlet l’Opinion, the cabinet of the Minister of Armed Forces responded to the letter by calling the content “inadmissible and unworthy”.

    Asserting that military personnel are tasked with “setting an example,” the cabinet said that the signatories to the letter had abandoned their responsibilities and statutory obligations “and thus expose themselves to disciplinary sanctions,” which will occur within days.

    One of the generals who signed the letter, Marc Bertucchi, has since distanced himself from the text, commenting, “It is out of the question for me to accuse our president of “treason” because he is going to sign a document which, after careful reading, obviously does not undermine the principles that are the honor of France and for which I have engaged for more than forty years.”

    It is unclear what action will be taken against the generals, all of whom but one are still on reserve duty.

    The UN migration pact is legally non-binding but some have asserted that courts in European countries will be obliged to take its mandates into consideration during rulings. The pact states that migration is a human right. Some MEPs have claimed that it also turns criticism of mass immigration into a form of hate speech.

    France has been rocked by weeks of protests by ‘yellow vest’ demonstrators. Although the protests began as a response to fuel tax hikes, mass immigration has been repeatedly cited by yellow vest members as one of their major grievances.

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    Default Re: Ça Chauffe! - Turmoil in France

    French police announce strike action over poor working conditions

    By Christina Okello
    Issued on 19-12-2018
    Modified 20-12-2018 to 11:41


    French Police unions threaten rolling strike action from Wednesday 19 December 2018 THIERRY ZOCCOLAN / AFP

    After more than a month monitoring Yellow Vest protests, French police officers who were already feeling overworked, say they have had enough. The third largest union UNSA-Police has urged its officers to stay at home on Wednesday, except in the case of an emergency.

    "Roundabouts don't just belong to the Yellow Vests," the union said in a press release, in reference to the traffic chaos caused by the 'gilets jaunes' who have blocked roads in anger over rising fuel prices and taxes.

    Police unions are hoping to mirror the Yellow Vest movement, despite the latter losing momentum on the fifth straight weekend of demonstrations.

    "The Yellow Vest movement is about purchasing power," says Alexandre Langlois, the secretary general of the independent police union VIGI. "It would be a shame not to take up the issue, which concerns us all," he told RFI.

    Tuesday's action is a prelude to three other demonstrations:
    • Wednesday, police stations are to remain shut
    • Thursday evening, a demonstration is planned outside the central police station in Paris' 8th district by a movement called the "blue vests"
    • Saturday, Act 1 of police demonstrations
    Why are police officers angry?
    Like with the Yellow Vests, they are unhappy with their purchasing power and working conditions.

    The main police union Alliance has called for police stations to remain shut on Wednesday denouncing spending cuts of 62 million euros to the security forces in the 2019 budget.

    Police officers are demanding compensation for hours of unpaid overtime.

    "Currently we have 25 million hours of overtime that has still not been paid," explains VIGI's Langlois.
    "The record at the moment is a colleague that has worked 15,000 hours of overtime, that means he's been working ten years for free."
    On Tuesday, French authorities announced there would be a bonus of 300 euros for security forces deployed during the Yellow Vest protests in recognition of their "outstanding contribution."

    Langlois doubts that this will make a difference. "Our daily life will not change, because we can't live on promises," he said, arguing that there needs to be changes to police officers' working patterns.

    Suicide on the rise
    "One day, you can be off on a Wednesday and then the following week it's a Thursday. It makes it difficult to plan ahead, you don't have a life," comments Langlois.

    He blames this imbalance on spending cuts, which he says have had a psychological impact on police officers.

    "There have been nine cases of suicide since the new interior minister [Christophe Castaner] started his job two months ago," says Langlois.

    In October, his union launched an awareness campaign to alert authorities about the high suicide rate among officers.

    "Every week, a colleague commits suicide," comments Langlois. "The government prefers to let us die than to address our working conditions."

    Paying outstanding debt
    The government met with representatives of France's three main police unions Tuesday night to respond to their concerns.

    "The state currently owes 275 million euros to police officers in overtime (...) we cannot allow a debt of this amount to remain," Christophe Castaner, the French interior minister told France Info radio.

    He declined to mention when this debt would be cleared.
    "I cannot click my fingers and make 275 million euros miraculously appear (...) It will take some time, or even weeks, to find such an amount," he said.
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