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    What pops into my mind after watching the video is KENT STATE during the Vietnam protest, when the Ohio National Guard opened up live fire on unarmed student protesters, killing 4.
    What the f**k ....... what hasn't been learned in 48 years. Obviously history hasn't taught anything.

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    Cross posting this here

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    by James Corbett
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    https://steemit.com/news/@corbettrep...eople-vs-paris


    "Let them eat carbon!" said French President Emmanuel Macron this week, offering his peasants a six-month reprieve on their coming carbon sin tax. And, kicking his feet up on his desk at the Élysée Palace, he breathed a sigh of relief. He had bought himself some time to figure out how to deal with the rabble at the gates. But how much time?

    Not much at all, it turns out. As of press time, the yellow jackets have announced their intention to proceed with "Act 4" of their protests this weekend, and the government has responded by announcing its decision to close the Eiffel Tower, the Louvre, and other tourism landmarks on Saturday. Meanwhile, Paris, for its part, is bracing for another weekend of violence and street battles.

    For those living under a rock who might not have heard, France has been subject to a series of protests in recent weeks over widespread dissatisfaction with the Macron government and its insistence on pushing through a series of deeply unpopular tax increases and economic reforms. The protesters have adopted the "gilets jaunes," or yellow vests that all French drivers are required to store as a safety measure in the event of a roadside breakdown. It is the perfect symbol for the movement in many ways: it is a standard item that everyone has to hand, it is a visible sign of distress, and it is connected to the fuel tax that was the straw that broke the proverbial camel's back and sent the people spilling out onto the streets.

    Given the number of fake, Soros-backed, globalist-friendly "color revolutions" that have arisen in so many countries over the past two decades, it is understandable if readers maintain some skepticism about the reality of this latest, color-coordinated protest movement. But unlike those well-funded, globalist-backed protests, this one is hoping to ultimately topple the administration of Macron, the former Rothschild & Co. investment banker who was touted by the MSM as France's "sensible" answer to the populist wave sweeping Europe. In other words, it's doubtful that Soros or his fellow travelers are rooting for the yellow jackets to succeed.

    So, could this be a truly popular revolution taking place right in the heart of the EU empire? And if so, what does it mean?

    Unsurprisingly, that highly contentious question is being asked all over the place right now, from the talking head panels on the MSM boob tube to the corridors of power in Europe to the streets of Paris, and there are almost as many answers as there are people asking the question. The socialists are hailing these protests as a repeat of '68, when revolution hung heavy in the air. The nationalists are convinced that this is all about the migrant crisis and is a harbinger of a coming Le Pen government. But all sides can agree on one thing: The spark that lit the match in this particular powder keg was the Paris climate agreement.

    Yes, it was just three scant years ago that we were treated to all the ballyhoo and tosh about the Paris Agreement and how it was going to save the world. Who could forget those scenes of the UN bureaucrats holding hands with the political fatcats, congratulating themselves for having saved the world by making the bold decision to control the world's temperature?



    "Yes, the politicians and unelected UN bureaucrats can do anything they want!" cried the masses. "They are our rulers, after all! . . . But how exactly do they intend to do this?"

    "Why, by appeasing the weather gods, of course," came the response. And, it turns out, the weather gods can only be appeased by giving more money to the government. So, dutifully, Macron and his government went about raising carbon taxes, sending already sky-high gasoline prices in France rocketing into the stratosphere.

    There's just one problem with all of this: The people have decided that, on the whole, they'd rather not pay $7.06 per gallon of gasoline to appease those weather gods. In fact, levying a projected €8 billion/year tax on a workforce already complaining about high unemployment and high taxes in order to reduce emissions of the life-giving carbon dioxide in a country that accounts for less than 1% of global carbon dioxide emissions anyway might just be a teensy-weensy bit unproductive.

    The whole situation is a fascinating insight into the reality of the growing discontent of the masses who are, on the whole, happy to go along with the global warming swindle ... .. so long as it stays out of their pocketbook. Sadly, as they are only now finding out, the entire point of the global warming swindle is to transfer funds out of their pocketbook and into the hands of the very corporations and foundations that are behind the swindle.

    France is by no means alone in this dawning realization. Voters in Washington state just rejected a proposed carbon swindle that would have levied an estimated $2.3 billion/year tax on the state's economy that, even by the UN's own made up voodoo witch doctor nonsense, would have contributed about 0% to the goal of stopping global climate change (rounding for the nearest whole number). And now the Canadian government is facing pushback on a proposed federal carbon tax from its own provinces.

    Meanwhile in London the likes of George Monbiot (who is wrong about everything) is trying to drum up a new protest movement that is going to demand greater action from politicians on the urgent issue of climate change . . . at least until the protesters discover that they're just helping to demand their own tax increases.

    Of course, as you'll hear any number of talking heads tell you in regard to the yellow jacket phenomenon unfolding in France, this is no longer just about a carbon tax. But that's where it started, and it is important.

    So, about that Paris Agreement: Paris called. They want their money back.

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    A good article from Zero Hedge pointing out how these protests in France and Europe are not minor taxation complaints but rather bigger Globalism complaints.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...alds-end-union






    Authored by Raul Ilargi Meijer via The Automatic Earth blog,
    The concept of the EU might have worked, but still only might have, if a neverending economic boom could have been manufactured to guide it on its way. But there was never going to be such a boom. Or perhaps if the spoils that were available in boom times and bust had been spread out among nations rich and poor and citizens rich and poor a little more equally, that concept might still have carried the days.
    Then again, its demise was obvious from well before the Union was ever signed into existence, in the philosophies, deliberations and meetings that paved its way in the era after a second world war in two score years fought largely on the European continent.
    In hindsight, it is hard to comprehend how it’s possible that those who met and deliberated to found the Union, in and of itself a beneficial task at least on the surface in the wake of the blood of so many millions shed, were not wiser, smarter, less greedy, less driven by sociopath design and methods. It was never the goal that missed its own target or went awry, it was the execution.
    Still, no matter how much we may dream, how much some of the well-meaning ‘founding fathers’ of the Union may have dreamt, without that everlasting economic boom it never stood a chance. The Union was only ever going to be tolerated, accepted, embraced by its citizens if they could feel and see tangible benefits in their daily lives of surrendering parts of their own decision making powers, and the sovereignty of their nations.
    There are 28 countries in the Union at this point, and one of them is already preparing to leave. There are 28 different cultures too, and almost as many languages. It was always going to be an uphill struggle, a hill far too steep for mere greed to master and conquer. History soaked Europe in far too much diversity through the ages for that. To unify all the thousands of years of beauty and darkness, of creativity and annihilation, of love and hatred, passed on through the generations, a lot more than a naked and bland lust for wealth, power and shiny objects was needed.
    And sure, maybe it just happened on the way, in the moments when everyone was making new friends and not watching their backs for a moment. But they all still should have seen it coming, because of those same thousands of years that culminated in where they found themselves. The European Union is like a wedding and marriage without a prenup, where partners are too afraid to offend each other to do what would make them not regret the ceremony later.
    Today, there are far too few of the 28 EU countries that have been lifted out of their poverty and other conditions that made them want to join the Union. And within many of the countries, there are way too many people who are, and feel, left behind. While Brussels has become a bastion of power that none of the disadvantaged feel they can properly address with their grievances.
    The main fault of the EU is that the biggest party at the table always in the end, when things get serious, gets its way. The 80 million or so people of Germany de facto rule the 500 million of the Union, or you know, the three handfuls that rule Germany. No important decision can or will ever be taken that Berlin does not agree with. Angela Merkel has been the CEO of Europe Inc. since November 22 2005, gathering more power as time went by. That was never going to work unless she made everyone richer. Ask the Greeks about that one.
    Merkel was the leader of both Germany and of Europe, and when things got precarious, she chose to let German interests prevail above Italian or Greek ones. That’s the fundamental flaw and failure of the Union in a nutshell. All other things, the Greek crisis, Salvini, Macron, Brexit, are mere consequences of that flaw. In absence of a forever economic boom, there is nothing left to fall back on.
    Traditional right/left parties have been destroyed all across Europe in recent national elections. And it’s those traditional parties that still largely hold power in Brussels. As much as anyone except Germany and perhaps the European Commission hold any power at all. The shifts that happened in the political spectrum of many countries is not yet reflected in the European Parliament. But there are European elections in less than 6 months, May 23-26 2019.
    About a quarter of the votes in the last such election, in 2014, went to euroskeptic parties. It’s not a terrible stretch of the imagination to presume that they’ll get half of the votes this time. Then we’ll have half or more of representatives speaking for people who don’t have faith in what they represent.
    And on the other hand you have the Brussels elite, who continue to propagate the notion that Europe’s problems can best, nay only, be solved with more Europe. Of that elite Emmanuel Macron is the most recent, and arguable most enthusiastic from the get-go, high priest. Which can’t be seen apart from his domestic nose-diving approval rating, and most certainly not from the yellow vest protests and riots.
    Macron won his presidency last year solely because he ran against Marine Le Pen in the second round of the elections, and a vast majority on the French will never vote for her; they’ll literally vote for anyone else instead. In the first round, when it wasn’t one on one, Macron got less than 25% of the votes. And now France wants him to leave. That is the essence of the protests. His presidency appears already over.
    Among the 28 EU countries, the UK is a very clear euroskeptic example. It’s supposed to leave on March 2019, but that’s by no means a given. Then there’s Italy, where the last election put a strongly euroskeptic government in charge. There are the four Visegrad countries, Poland, Hungary, Czech Republic and Slovakia. No love lost for Brussels there. In Belgium yesterday, PM Michel’s government ally New Flemish Alliance voted against the UN Global Compact on Migration.
    Spain’s Mariana Rajoy was supported by the EU against Catalonia, and subsequently voted out. The next government is left-wing and pro EU, but given the recent right wing victory in Andalusia it’s clear there’s nothing stable there. Austria has a rightwing anti-immigration PM. Germany’s CDU party today elected a successor for Merkel (in the first such vote since 1971!), but they’ve lost bigly in last year’s elections, and their CSU partner has too, pushing both towards the right wing anti-immigrant AfD.
    And with Macron gone or going, France can’t be counted on to support Brussels either. So what is left, quo vadis Europa? Well, there’s the European elections. In which national parties, often as members of a ‘voting alliance’, pick their prospective candidates for the European Parliament, then become part of a larger European alliance, and finally often of an even larger alliance. You guessed right, turnout numbers for European elections are very very low.

    Of course Brussels is deaf to all the issues besieging it. The largest alliances of parties, the EPP (people’s party) and the “socialists”, have chosen their crown prince ‘spitzenkandidat’ to succeed Jean-Claude Juncker as head of the European Commission, and they expect for things to continue more or less as usual. The two main contenders are Manfred Weber and Frans Timmermans, convinced eurocrats. How that will work out with 50% or more of parliamentarians being euroskeptic, you tell me. How about they form their own alliance?
    The Union appears fatally wounded, and that’s even before the next financial crisis has materialized. Speaking of which, the Fed has been hiking rates and can lower them again a little if it wants, but much of Europe ‘works’ on negative rates already. That next crisis could be a doozy.
    But we’re getting ahead of ourselves.
    First thing on the menu is Macron tomorrow, and the yellow vests in the streets of Paris and many other French cities -and rural areas. He has called for 90,000 policemen on the streets, but they’ll come face to face with their peers who are firemen, ambulance personnel, you name it, lots of folks who also work for the government. Will they open fire?
    Can Macron allow for French people to be killed in the streets? Almost certainly not. There’ll be pitchforks and guillotines. The only way out for him, the only way to calm things down, may be to announce his resignation. The French don’t fool around when they protest. And who’s going to be left to drive the reform of Europe then? Not Merkel, she’s gone, even if she wants to be German Chancellor for three more years. But then who? I’m trying to think of someone, honest, but I can’t.
    It’ll be quite the day Saturday in Paris.

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    What do the protesters in France want? Check out the 'official' Yellow Vest manifesto

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    The following list of demands has been circulating among French social media users in recent days. We do not know its exact origins or author(s), but it seems to have first appeared here on December 5th. You'll have to click on the image to enlarge it if you want to read it in French. We've translated it into English (in summary, not word-for-word) below...


    Gilets Jaunes' List of Demands

    Economy/Work
    • A constitutional cap on taxes - at 25%
    • Increase of 40% in the basic pension and social welfare
    • Increase hiring in public sector to re-establish public services
    • Massive construction projects to house 5 million homeless, and severe penalties for mayors/prefectures that leave people on the streets
    • Break up the 'too-big-to-fail' banks, re-separate regular banking from investment banking
    • Cancel debts accrued through usurious rates of interest

    Politics
    • Constitutional amendments to protect the people's interests, including binding referenda
    • The barring of lobby groups and vested interests from political decision-making
    • Frexit: Leave the EU to regain our economic, monetary and political sovereignty (In other words, respect the 2005 referendum result, when France voted against the EU Constitution Treaty, which was then renamed the Lisbon Treaty, and the French people ignored)
    • Clampdown on tax evasion by the ultra-rich
    • The immediate cessation of privatization, and the re-nationalization of public goods like motorways, airports, rail, etc
    • Remove all ideology from the ministry of education, ending all destructive education techniques
    • Quadruple the budget for law and order and put time-limits on judicial procedures. Make access to the justice system available for all
    • Break up media monopolies and end their interference in politics. Make media accessible to citizens and guarantee a plurality of opinions. End editorial propaganda
    • Guarantee citizens' liberty by including in the constitution a complete prohibition on state interference in their decisions concerning education, health and family matters

    Health/Environment
    • No more 'planned obsolescence' - Mandate guarantee from producers that their products will last 10 years, and that spare parts will be available during that period
    • Ban plastic bottles and other polluting packaging
    • Weaken the influence of big pharma on health in general and hospitals in particular
    • Ban on GMO crops, carcinogenic pesticides, endocrine disruptors and monocrops
    • Reindustrialize France (thereby reducing imports and thus pollution)

    Foreign Affairs
    • End France's participation in foreign wars of aggression, and exit from NATO
    • Cease pillaging and interfering - politically and militarily - in 'Francafrique', which keeps Africa poor. Immediately repatriate all French soldiers. Establish relations with African states on an equal peer-to-peer basis
    • Prevent migratory flows that cannot be accommodated or integrated, given the profound civilizational crisis we are experiencing
    • Scrupulously respect international law and the treaties we have signed
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    Herve, that is quite an impressive list.

    Do you all have property taxes there and are religious organizations exempt from them as they are here in the U.S.?

    The Catholic Church, for instance, owns an incredible amount of property which would be heavily taxed if it were privately owned. Since they don't have to pay property taxes, but have use of services, i.e. roads, etc. it puts more and more burden on us normal working folks.
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    Quote Posted by Valerie Villars (here)
    [...]
    Do you all have property taxes there and are religious organizations exempt from them as they are here in the U.S.?
    [...]
    Yes, we all pay property taxes but I don't know if Churches, Catholic or others are exempt or not, sorry...
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    Such an interesting situation... I hope more people dig in and look at what it REALLY is, not what the TV says it is.

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    Quote Posted by Valerie Villars (here)
    Herve, that is quite an impressive list.

    Do you all have property taxes there and are religious organizations exempt from them as they are here in the U.S.?

    The Catholic Church, for instance, owns an incredible amount of property which would be heavily taxed if it were privately owned. Since they don't have to pay property taxes, but have use of services, i.e. roads, etc. it puts more and more burden on us normal working folks.
    yes quite impressive, the people is waking up it seems

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    Wow, an intense day in Paris. How these cops (and military?) can fire stun grenades and massive tear gas on their fellow citizens is unbelievable and very sad. Brave peeps. Over 500 arrested today. I kinda wish I was there with them.


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    Here's a live feed, or it was live earlier


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    Here is something discovered by Houman that's in French (use auto translate if not French speaking):

    Quote Posted by Houman (here)
    Jacques Attali on the elected president and the state no longer having any power. "The market has the power now" and it will extend its sphere of control to education, health, justice, police, foreign affairs, life, to the areas considered illegal today (prostitution, trade of weapons/organs, racket...) and ultimately the transformation/commercialization of life itself (i.e. human beings turned into commodities for buy and sell)

    Jacques Attali is an insider (and an agent organizing those changes) so his "predictions" are essentially coming from that perspective (he predicted the presidency of E. Macron and claims that he knows the name of the woman who will come after him).

    Houman

    PS: Recall that (see lectures by Marion Sigaut) the purpose of the French revolution was to bring about the law and control of the market (over "common good").

    Attali is just telling anyone who is listening (and with an enthusiastic big smile) what authors like Henry Makow have been screaming over the rooftop for decades...

    And, Macron was/is tutored/mentored by Jacques Attali...


    Related:
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    Wow, an intense day in Paris. How these cops (and military?) can fire stun grenades and massive tear gas on their fellow citizens is unbelievable and very sad. Brave peeps. Over 500 arrested today. I kinda wish I was there with them.
    "Tear gas" is a pretty good name for O.C.; it really is just an irritant. Out of all the potential responses I can easily see how tear gas is used if officers are being assaulted.

    Now, if they are just arbitrarily firing tear gas into the crowd I would agree; however the video you posted did not appear to show that (though I did get a sense of selective editing).

    It's a very complex situation, I don't think carte blanche outrage is a nuanced enough response in this case.
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    Wishful thinking?? (Hope) perhaps not.

    Quote This world revolution will remove all vestiges of globalism off the face of the earth so that THE PEOPLE can live in peace and prosperity as a world full of beautiful nations with great borders.

    We know that there are plenty of free energy technologies that are being suppressed so that the elite can keep the people of Earth controlled with their fake, phony fiat petro dollars.

    We know about your pedophilia, off shore accounts, encryption keys, and dirty deals - from the Queen to the Vatican.

    You had over 2,000 years to make it work.

    Now move on. It's our turn.
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    I guess that us "frogs" finally noticed we were being heated up to a boil...

    The question, then, is: was it a mistake of the behind-the-curtain-puppeteers? Or was it intended so as to catch like a wild fire across Europe?


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    The interview "Paris Man Speaks" was really thoughtful and truthful, saying the people are aware of the layers beyond the politicians who are really controlling things, i.e. the bankers.

    What's most impressive to me is the firefighters and police who have shown solidarity with the protesters, understanding they are all on the same level, and that their uniforms or job descriptions do not place them on a different level than those they are supposed to be fighting against, all at the behest of some elite bankers. There is strength in unity.
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    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    The question, then, is: was it a mistake of the behind-the-curtain-puppeteers? Or was it intended so as to catch like a wild fire across Europe?
    is it barely mentioned in the news or dominating the news cycle (and even then, how is it being presented)?

    Somethings become too large for those questions about media coverage to matter, but I've often used them as a filter for events importance and "support" from DS.

    I think it's barely being mentioned in the US, and then we are told it's just a "gas tax" not "anti globalism" protests.


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    This clip is from the article above. Is that naked passion or what? That alone you could show people and say "this is what the French are going through."


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    This is probably one of the finest investigative journalism I have ever read. I always thought that to climb to different balconies, would require extensive strength and agility...
    Maybe there were 'handholds' provided prior ?

    Thanks for digging-up gems like this........... With 11K + members, plus say, 500 - 1000 visitors each week, threads of this quality should reach more households,,,

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    I just love French people. They actually do something when their government is trying to screw them.

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