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    Default Re: David Paulides' research: over 1600 inexplicable abductions in National Parks, wilderness, and urban areas

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    This is very interesting Bill - when I was listening to the owner of the company that creates the D-Wave computer, he was saying in his speech that we could go to nearby dimensions with this technology, and be able to pluck resources from these dimensions and bring it back to our, for our use.
    Well, actually, this is something slightly different, as best I understand. I had quantum computing explained to me once like this:

    If a really difficult calculation might take a regular computer a thousand years to complete, then the quantum computer takes the problem, sidesteps into another dimension, takes a thousand years (there!) to calculate the result, and then a fraction of a second later steps back into our reality to give us the answer. (Go figure, as they say. )

    I'm not qualified to comment on how accurate that analogy is, but it's almost certainly got nothing to do with physically traveling in or reaching into other dimensions. But ETs step in and out of other dimensions all the time -- I'd argue this to be a proven fact -- and maybe some non-human beings live in other dimensions. It may be something like the latter that's abducting and killing some people, for their own unknown reasons.

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    Default Re: David Paulides' research: over 1600 inexplicable abductions in National Parks, wilderness, and urban areas

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    This is very interesting Bill - when I was listening to the owner of the company that creates the D-Wave computer, he was saying in his speech that we could go to nearby dimensions with this technology, and be able to pluck resources from these dimensions and bring it back to our, for our use.
    Well, actually, this is something slightly different, as best I understand. I had quantum computing explained to me once like this:

    If a really difficult calculation might take a regular computer a thousand years to complete, then the quantum computer takes the problem, sidesteps into another dimension, takes a thousand years (there!) to calculate the result, and then a fraction of a second later steps back into our reality to give us the answer. (Go figure, as they say. )

    I'm not qualified to comment on how accurate that analogy is, but it's almost certainly got nothing to do with physically traveling in or reaching into other dimensions. But ETs step in and out of other dimensions all the time -- I'd argue this to be a proven fact -- and maybe some non-human beings live in other dimensions. It may be something like the latter that's abducting and killing some people, for their own unknown reasons.
    Earlier in this very thread The Trap from DNA.

    It also reminds me of the E.E.Doc Smith Lensman series and the race who used hypnotic illusions to lure prey into their carvens where they were flayed alive as the 'creatures' fed of their fear and fading life forces.

    I rather think there was mention here on Avalon of a biker who was taking his clothes of by the side of the road and about to set off across the desert only to be interrupted by his friends who caught up with him. He had been under some sort of compunction.

    Its not the only case I've heard about either, though I cannot recall others just now.

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    Default Re: David Paulides' research: over 1600 inexplicable abductions in National Parks, wilderness, and urban areas

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    This is very interesting Bill - when I was listening to the owner of the company that creates the D-Wave computer, he was saying in his speech that we could go to nearby dimensions with this technology, and be able to pluck resources from these dimensions and bring it back to our, for our use.
    Well, actually, this is something slightly different, as best I understand. I had quantum computing explained to me once like this:

    If a really difficult calculation might take a regular computer a thousand years to complete, then the quantum computer takes the problem, sidesteps into another dimension, takes a thousand years (there!) to calculate the result, and then a fraction of a second later steps back into our reality to give us the answer. (Go figure, as they say. )

    I'm not qualified to comment on how accurate that analogy is, but it's almost certainly got nothing to do with physically traveling in or reaching into other dimensions. But ETs step in and out of other dimensions all the time -- I'd argue this to be a proven fact -- and maybe some non-human beings live in other dimensions. It may be something like the latter that's abducting and killing some people, for their own unknown reasons.
    Thanks for the information - not your fault at all, but I now feel like an idiot

    But your explanation kind of make some sense -

    In fact, if you look at all the spiritual ancient schools teachings - our higher self being very powerful yet located somewhere else - and all what is being said about reptilians being from another dimension - eating up our energies and living 1,000s or years in our view - your explanation makes sense
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    Default Re: David Paulides' research: over 1600 inexplicable abductions in National Parks, wilderness, and urban areas

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    I had quantum computing explained to me once like this:

    If a really difficult calculation might take a regular computer a thousand years to complete, then the quantum computer takes the problem, sidesteps into another dimension, takes a thousand years (there!) to calculate the result, and then a fraction of a second later steps back into our reality to give us the answer. (Go figure, as they say. )
    My take on that analogy is ... to be a bit blunt ... it's gibberish .

    A better analogy, in my view, is that quantum computing is more like holograms.

    In holograms, multiple two dimensional images (how something looks, viewed from various angles) are stored in a single medium, using the variations in phase relations when that medium is viewed from different angles.

    In quantum computing, multiple intermediate computation states (what happens to the calculations if some variable takes on each of several possible values) is dynamically stored in, and updated, a single medium. This way, instead of having to run each calculation, for each different value, as a separate calculation, on a separate processor, one can run many such calculations in parallel, all in one quantum processor, all at the same time.

    Like the shader and texture units on present day graphics cards, this only works well for a number of parallel calculations of almost the same thing, with just a parameter or two varying.

    Quantum computing (if I understand correctly) is just another, in a long line, of ways to increase the parallelism when computing highly parallelizable problems. Such solutions date back at least to Seymour Cray's vector processing units in the 1970's, such as on the Cray 1.
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    Default Re: David Paulides' research: over 1600 inexplicable abductions in National Parks, wilderness, and urban areas

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    * Bill had a stab at explaining something inexplicable *


    ...it's gibberish .

    Well, I did try!




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    Default Re: David Paulides' research: over 1600 inexplicable abductions in National Parks, wilderness, and urban areas

    David Paulides discovers common denominators between groups of missing people. I can understand that bigfoots might use this medium but there's more than a hunters agenda (old and sick), there looks to also be more social/political groupings to the disappearances. I wonder if this is a mix of hunters agenda and human agendas.

    Here's the a youtube video of a presentation by David with the bit I'm thinking of

    https://youtu.be/4rIpbPDbH0E?t=16m37s

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    Default Re: David Paulides' research: over 1600 inexplicable abductions in National Parks, wilderness, and urban areas

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    Agenda 21 is a program to depopulate the country side, among other things.

    I wonder how much these things are related to that agenda ?
    Not at all, I don't think... reports of these disappearances go back in some cases over 100 years. Paulides has combed libraries and newspaper archives for these older accounts.
    • They're sporadic
    • They're international
    • The locations occur in clusters (including some urban areas)
    • The perpetrators show intelligence and malevolence
    • There's an interdimensional component to how the missing people end up in places where they have not been physically transported. (E.g. Elisa Lam, whose naked body was found in a sealed metal water tank, with only a small inspection hatch, which had to be cut open to get her out; and many other cases where the missing person could not possibly have traveled themselves to where they were eventually found. In one recent urban case, the missing person vanished from a crowded bar where the security cam showed for a clear fact that they did not leave the building physically.

      In summary:
      • They're being plucked out of thin air
      • They appear to spend time 'somewhere else' (and horrifically, are often alive during that period)
      • They are dumped somewhere, in most cases dead, where in many cases they could not have got to themselves by any means.
    Plucked out of thin air. That scares the bejesus out of me. In that regard, there really is nothing anyone can do to prevent it from happening to them. That's scary!!

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    Pauledes addresses the so called "hypothermia-paradoxical undressing "...and calls b@llsh@t.
    Hypothermia in an elevator... lol... quite rare as a matter of fact (still possible though), not even credible from my point of view. There must be a simpler explanation, still waiting.

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    Paulides addresses the so called "hypothermia-paradoxical undressing "...and calls bullsh*t.
    So do I. I'm a highly experienced mountaineer, well-trained and formally qualified, with extensive experience in cold mountain environments. I've been to 21,000 ft in December on the 5th highest mountain in the world, and was the first person to ski the Italian High Level Route solo in winter. I know about this stuff.

    It's bullsh*t.

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    Default Re: David Paulides' research: over 1600 inexplicable abductions in National Parks, wilderness, and urban areas

    This is a really interesting topic thank you, and something I've followed too from David's first missing persons book. I live in one of the cluster areas (Mount Shasta) but had no awareness this was going on before David started writing about it. I was fortunate to meet him when we did a television show about these Mount Shasta missing cases with the Travel Channel back in 2013, and he's one of the most professional and nicest guys you could ever hope to meet.

    The show's theory was that these were abductions by some kind of alien race for the purposes of genetic experiments. That was the director's ideas, not Davids or my own. I personally think there could be a whole range of phenomenon behind it, with different answers and motives, and it would be hard to pin it on just one culprit.

    I can also say that I've looked into this with Remote Viewers, and they are also describing it as an abduction-related scenario. In fact, they don't even like to look at these cases because these beings (whoever they are) seem to be able to sense that they're being remote viewed, and they get unwanted visitations from them.

    My friend John Vivanco is a remote viewer and he's been involved in the field since it became public which he goes into in his book. Anyhow John and I have been investigating these kinds of mysteries around Mount Shasta for the past few years, and he uses Remote Viewing to look into them - in another thread I posted a video of one our explorations around Mount Shasta looking into a local legend.

    David posted this article the other day I thought some of you might find it interesting:

    http://www.paranormal-intelligence-a...p-black-report

    If you've read David's last book (Hunters) I'm sure you're aware of the "predator-effect" he includes about Jan's story of seeing the shimmering/mirage type phenomenon. I had never heard of that before.

    But earlier this summer, John and I were exploring Pluto's Cave near Mount Shasta, and we had a very similar type of experience. John was filming us with a full-spectrum camera in the cave when it seemed a portal began to open.

    Something made John's camera shut down twice before he got it working again, but then it lost its ability to focus on what we were seeing.

    The odd thing is whatever it was, I didn't really feel threatened by it. I have never showed this video public before, but I set it so it can be viewed here on PA, but it won't display on other sites and I'll probably take it down at some point. We were not able to capture the shimmering portal on film, the camera wouldn't focus, but you can see and hear us reacting to it.

    https://vimeo.com/176785274

    This happened before David's new Hunter's book came out. He sent me an advance copy of his book before it was published and my heart stopped when I read about the people who experienced this "predator-effect" because that's exactly what I saw when we were filming in the cave, and you can hear me state that I thought I was hallucinating.

    We went back a few months later and it started to occur again, although we didn't go down into the cave as far, this time something took control of my camera that was set up on a tripod and left alone stationary to just film down in the cave, and something took control of it and made it pan away from the mouth of the cave when nobody was touching it. It was one of the weirdest things I've ever seen. We captured that on film I can prove it happened but I don't have it on hand to show, but it will go in a future video I'm doing.

    Anyway whatever's doing this does not like to be filmed it seems...
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    Default Re: David Paulides' research: over 1600 inexplicable abductions in National Parks, wilderness, and urban areas

    Which came first? The strange disappearances or the National Park designation?

    I would say the former and that's why the land became The latter.

    Prior to Yellowstone in 1880's no country set aside land for no future development.

    You could say that's what makes America great, or you could say it was something the US had to do when it was discovered that other entities occupied the land.
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    Default Re: David Paulides' research: over 1600 inexplicable abductions in National Parks, wilderness, and urban areas

    @ mgray...that seems to fit in with Chas. Hall & the Tall Whites.

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    Default Re: David Paulides' research: over 1600 inexplicable abductions in National Parks, wilderness, and urban areas

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    Quote Posted by Shannon (here)
    Pauledes addresses the so called "hypothermia-paradoxical undressing "...and calls b@llsh@t.
    Hypothermia in an elevator... lol... quite rare as a matter of fact (still possible though), not even credible from my point of view. There must be a simpler explanation, still waiting.
    Also, I'm sure you know but Many of these "hypothermia" cases he reports on, the people are found very close to their cars or somewhere they could have found shelter. There's just no case for hypothermia

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    Default Re: David Paulides' research: over 1600 inexplicable abductions in National Parks, wilderness, and urban areas

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    This is a really interesting topic thank you, and something I've followed too from David's first missing persons book. I live in one of the cluster areas (Mount Shasta) but had no awareness this was going on before David started writing about it. I was fortunate to meet him when we did a television show about these Mount Shasta missing cases with the Travel Channel back in 2013, and he's one of the most professional and nicest guys you could ever hope to meet.

    The show's theory was that these were abductions by some kind of alien race for the purposes of genetic experiments. That was the director's ideas, not Davids or my own. I personally think there could be a whole range of phenomenon behind it, with different answers and motives, and it would be hard to pin it on just one culprit.

    I can also say that I've looked into this with Remote Viewers, and they are also describing it as an abduction-related scenario. In fact, they don't even like to look at these cases because these beings (whoever they are) seem to be able to sense that they're being remote viewed, and they get unwanted visitations from them.

    My friend John Vivanco is a remote viewer and he's been involved in the field since it became public which he goes into in his book. Anyhow John and I have been investigating these kinds of mysteries around Mount Shasta for the past few years, and he uses Remote Viewing to look into them - in another thread I posted a video of one our explorations around Mount Shasta looking into a local legend.

    David posted this article the other day I thought some of you might find it interesting:

    http://www.paranormal-intelligence-a...p-black-report

    If you've read David's last book (Hunters) I'm sure you're aware of the "predator-effect" he includes about Jan's story of seeing the shimmering/mirage type phenomenon. I had never heard of that before.

    But earlier this summer, John and I were exploring Pluto's Cave near Mount Shasta, and we had a very similar type of experience. John was filming us with a full-spectrum camera in the cave when it seemed a portal began to open.

    Something made John's camera shut down twice before he got it working again, but then it lost its ability to focus on what we were seeing.

    The odd thing is whatever it was, I didn't really feel threatened by it. I have never showed this video public before, but I set it so it can be viewed here on PA, but it won't display on other sites and I'll probably take it down at some point. We were not able to capture the shimmering portal on film, the camera wouldn't focus, but you can see and hear us reacting to it.

    https://vimeo.com/176785274

    This happened before David's new Hunter's book came out. He sent me an advance copy of his book before it was published and my heart stopped when I read about the people who experienced this "predator-effect" because that's exactly what I saw when we were filming in the cave, and you can hear me state that I thought I was hallucinating.

    We went back a few months later and it started to occur again, although we didn't go down into the cave as far, this time something took control of my camera that was set up on a tripod and left alone stationary to just film down in the cave, and something took control of it and made it pan away from the mouth of the cave when nobody was touching it. It was one of the weirdest things I've ever seen. We captured that on film I can prove it happened but I don't have it on hand to show, but it will go in a future video I'm doing.

    Anyway whatever's doing this does not like to be filmed it seems...
    Great job and thanks for sharing. The other night I relistened to a paulades talk and he spoke about being intouch with two of the best remote viewers in the world. Neither would ever get back to him and were totally unprofessional and gave him some lame ru around. He said if any remote viewer or psychic can locate and or find one of the missing he will make them famous. It would be cool if an Avalon member stepped up to try and test there skills.

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    ........ The other night I relistened to a paulades talk and he spoke about being intouch with two of the best remote viewers in the world. Neither would ever get back to him and were totally unprofessional and gave him some lame ru around. He said if any remote viewer or psychic can locate and or find one of the missing he will make them famous. It would be cool if an Avalon member stepped up to try and test there skills.
    I heard him say "if any government trained Remote Viewer"......

    I'm getting worried. All my life I've been totally fearless in the dark out in the woods. Never could understand why so many people were terrified of the darkness. I've been far more comfortable out in the wilds on my own that trying to fit in with people. I only stopped going for 'midnight walks' since the 80s when it became more politically sensitive to be a loner out on my own at night.

    These disappearances seem so supernatural that I question if being wrapped up inside a home is even any protection from it.
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    Default Re: David Paulides' research: over 1600 inexplicable abductions in National Parks, wilderness, and urban areas

    Quote Hey Marcus, fyi, someone is buying Paulides (he doesnt know who) books and attempting to resell for the crazy price.

    All books can be found directly from his website for the reasonable price.
    Anyone outside U.S. that have ordered books on Paulides website,: http://www.nabigfootsearch.com/Bigfootstore.html knows about shipping expenses?
    I did send an email, but got no answer. (this was 6 months ago)

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    I'm very much looking forward to the movie.

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    Great job and thanks for sharing. The other night I relistened to a paulades talk and he spoke about being intouch with two of the best remote viewers in the world. Neither would ever get back to him and were totally unprofessional and gave him some lame ru around. He said if any remote viewer or psychic can locate and or find one of the missing he will make them famous. It would be cool if an Avalon member stepped up to try and test there skills.
    From what little I know about Remote Viewing, I do believe you can receive valuable guidance and clues to aid any kind of investigation with it, but I don't think it would be a very practical way to find missing people or solve any kind of mystery with %100 accuracy. I think at best it can offer some guidance to help steer you in the right direction. From what I understand there's a tremendous amount of work involved in it, it's not just sitting back and going into a trance, or channeling information from the spirit world--I have heard of teams of remote viewers gathering very accurate data and intelligence on a subject, even missing persons, but we're talking multiple people (possibly up to 20 or more) all focusing on the same target independently which might take days or weeks, generating enough data from the sessions that it would fill a phone book, then someone has to go through all that data and correlate it to see what matches up, and see what doesn't. Then you take what matches up, and put all the data together and try to come up with a lead or hypothesis or answer to whatever mystery or question you're attempting to solve. I don't know who David approached or talked to, but yeah he had very disappointing results. I think maybe the Remote Viewers he talked too maybe were not upfront with either him, or themselves, about how difficult it would actually be to pin point a missing person.

    In principle Remote Viewing works a little in the same way as what's called "the wisdom of crowds," where when you have many different people trying to figure out a problem they are more likely to arrive at a quicker and more accurate solution or answer than a single expert working alone.

    And I'm sure the military possesses much more efficient means to secretly gather data and information and that's probably why they stopped using it, because technology can do it much easier now. Heck, as Bill suggests, they might have a quantum computer to figure all this stuff out...
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    Would be nice if Bill could interview Paulides sometime (with questions from Avalon thrown in for good measure).

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    On one of Kerry Cassidy's reports, she says that the Government has allotted land to the space Aliens that are Raptors. They speak English, are very bright, but will eat humans as they are flesh eaters. When with humans, goats are kept nearby to satisfy a sudden urge of hunger.
    Yes, I remember Kerry's report saying that Raptors can eat humans. There may not be a lot of ET species that eat humans, but there are some. Scary thought that is very real, imo.

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