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    Default My NOAA alert system

    Around the time that Whitley Strieber and Art Bell put out "The Coming Global Superstorm", Whitley mentioned something about a particular buoy in the North Atlantic. I seem to remember some kind of controversy over it - a reading questioned that was written off by NOAA, or something like that, but it's been awhile and my memory isn't what it used to be...

    Anyway, this was the reason I put together a script to run daily 3 times a day to pull info from NOAA's National Data Buoy Center http://ndbc.noaa.gov, with the idea that these buoys might provide some kind of early warning, if only to duck and cover.

    When I moved jobs it was offline for awhile, but I recently got it running again. It sends me an email when the temperatures and/or wave heights change significantly from the previous scan.

    On Jan 30, I got an alert for buoy 44139 - here's the report:

    buoy_station_url p_lo c_lo %change_lo p_hi c_hi %change_hi wave alert
    --------------------------------------------------- ---- ---- ----------- ---- ---- ----------- ---- -----
    http://ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=44100 43.2 45.5 5.32407407% 46.2 46.2 0% 5.2 temp change
    http://ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=44137 50.0 51.1 2.20000000% 51.6 51.8 .387596899% 18.7 temp change
    http://ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=44139 37.4 40.1 7.21925133% 40.3 41.7 3.47394540% 42.3 temp change & wave height > 30 feet
    http://ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=44141 40.6 40.3 -.73891625% 45.9 41.7 -9.1503267% 31.2 temp change & wave height > 30 feet
    http://ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=44150 49.6 51.6 4.03225806% 52.9 52.0 -1.7013232% 15.4 temp change

    Lowest temp to date: 31
    Highest temp to date: 67
    Highest percent rise in temp to date: 37% Highest percent drop in temp to date: -34% Highest wave to date: 42 *

    * new

    Legend:
    buoy_station_url - the buoy station identifier link to its web page
    p_lo - water temperature low for the previous day (fahrenheit)
    c_lo - water temperature low for the current day (fahrenheit)
    %change_lo - water temperature low change percentage from previous day to today
    p_hi - water temperature high for the previous day (fahrenheit)
    c_hi - water temperature high for the current day (fahrenheit)
    %change_hi - water temperature high change percentage from previous day to today
    wave - highest wave height for the current day (feet)
    alert - currently tracking temp changes and wave heights over 30 feet

    Sorry it's a bit cryptic, I'm sure someone like Paul could put together a much better script, but basically the wave height went to 42.3 feet, which is not only a big jump but the highest I have in my records. Also, 44141 was at 31.2 feet, which would easily clear my house. These wave heights seem pretty impressive.

    I also have it scan the tornado http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/today_torn.html, hail http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/today_hail.html, wind and hurricane http://www.nhc.noaa.gov reports, just to see if there's any kind of link to other weather, though obviously it can't account for any kind of delayed effect.

    Whenever I get an alert I'll post here in case anyone is interested.

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    Default Re: My NOAA alert system

    Irregular and varying degrees differentials that make unpredictable "seasonal changes in wind, heat or unpredictable severe cold snaps in planting seasons. We lost 6 weeks of spring and Indian summer already, but then 80 degree temps during December.
    Thank God we got that snow or the temps of earth wouldn't have cooled enough to kill off bacteria, virus, ans infectious small flying insect bites of tropical diseases.

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    Default Re: My NOAA alert system

    Here in NYC it hit zero degrees Fahrenheit, supposedly the first time in 20 years. Going back up to 55 degrees on Tuesday. Does anyone think a 55 degree swing in 2 days is normal?

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    Default NOAA buoy station 44402 that went into event mode on 4/24

    Apologies if this has already been reported here on PA. I heard about this at the time but didn't think much about it until I watched the video below. What happened is that buoy #44402 went into event mode on 4/24 because it recorded an 180 foot change in sea level. This page has some good details on the event which is somewhat mysterious:

    https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/1218

    Here's the video I mentioned. Try to ignore the fear/sensationalism. What's interesting is the idea that a specific coastline could be targeted by using a nuclear or similarly strong explosion:



    I added 44402 to my homegrown alert script

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    Default Re: NOAA buoy station 44402 that went into event mode on 4/24

    Quote Posted by Rex (here)

    an 180 foot change in sea level
    ...would be 100% impossible without something like a 10.0 earthquake (or quite a bit more!) — out of the question that it could escape notice.

    Based on that alone, the report is nonsense, and Superstation95 can be tagged as an unreliable or hoax source.

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    Default Re: My NOAA alert system

    Of course you're spot on as usual Bill. I should have done more due diligence. Here's a more reliable source and rendering, which at last update confirms the buoy event was triggered during maintenance:

    http://www.accuweather.com/en/weathe...-feet/56964563

    I confirmed that NOAA removed the data from that period between 2016/04/23 22:00:00 GMT and 2016/04/24 03:00:00 GMT. I'm not sure I like the idea of them removing data but maybe that's standard operating procedure after maintenance. It would be nice if they put an entry in there when the buoys had work done to them rather than leave a gaping hole in the data feed.

    #YY MM DD hh mm ss T HEIGHT
    #yr mo dy hr mn s - m
    ...
    2016 04 24 04 00 00 1 2615.372
    2016 04 24 03 45 00 1 2615.432
    2016 04 24 03 30 00 1 2615.490
    2016 04 24 03 15 00 1 2615.543
    2016 04 23 22 00 00 1 2612.496

    2016 04 23 21 45 00 1 2612.438
    2016 04 23 21 30 00 1 2612.379
    2016 04 23 21 15 00 1 2612.320
    2016 04 23 21 00 00 1 2612.266
    ...

    I can't find any reference for the meteorite claim by Superstation95, looks to be nonsense as Bill said.

    Unfortunately this bad info took away from what I found most interesting which was the possibility of those with the means could be thinking about creating tsunamis.

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    Default Re: My NOAA alert system

    Got an alert for buoy 44100 http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=44100.

    Water temperature reached a record high of 68.7 degrees fahrenheit. It's already back down to 58.5 http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/show_plot.p...time_label=EDT

    I'm not sure how normal this kind of spike is. Sometimes it's caused by whales or large ships that stay in close proximity for an extended period of time.

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    44100 is acting up again. On 5/28 it went to 69.6 degrees Fahrenheit and then on 5/29 went to 70.9. It's still 69+ as of this writing. I don't understand enough about the currents unfortunately. Will have to start looking into it.
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    Default Re: My NOAA alert system

    The water around buoy 44137, east Scotia, http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=44137 warmed up to 71.6F on 7/7 at 11PM ADT, then up to 72.9F on 7/8 6AM ADT, then peaked at 74.7F on 7/8 3PM ADT, each time setting a new high for as long as I've been tracking. Using the buoy's history data I did a quick excel line graph:


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    Quote Posted by Rex (here)
    44100 is acting up again. On 5/28 it went to 69.6 degrees Fahrenheit and then on 5/29 went to 70.9. It's still 69+ as of this writing. I don't understand enough about the currents unfortunately. Will have to start looking into it.
    44100 made it up to 81.7F yesterday, and is there already today. I was down at the Jersey shore this weekend and it felt almost as warm as bath water. Is this normal or an outlier? Not sure.

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    Quote Posted by Rex (here)
    Quote Posted by Rex (here)
    44100 is acting up again. On 5/28 it went to 69.6 degrees Fahrenheit and then on 5/29 went to 70.9. It's still 69+ as of this writing. I don't understand enough about the currents unfortunately. Will have to start looking into it.
    44100 made it up to 81.7F yesterday, and is there already today. I was down at the Jersey shore this weekend and it felt almost as warm as bath water. Is this normal or an outlier? Not sure.
    It hit a high of 83.1F today.

    So I went back and downloaded all the historical data from 2008 up for this buoy. And I feel stupid. That buoy has gone as high as 87.62, and there are many readings in the summer that hit in the 83 degree range.

    The problem is that I expanded my script to check all available Atlantic buoys where as before I was only targeting the ones off the coast of Canada. I'll have to fix it up to track individual highs instead of overall, after I review history for all of them.

    Sorry for any confusion I may have caused. Live and learn!
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