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    Default Wi-Fi & Smart Meters : ‘Wireless Wake-Up Call’ health dangers of Electromagnetic Fields

    This is not a new debate but is still not fully recognised yet , in this talk Jeromy
    Johnson explains his experience and ideas about the problem.




    A Silicon-valley engineer turned technology health advocate, Jeromy Johnson
    discusses our attachment to technology and the health hazards such an addiction
    may hold.

    Jeromy Johnson is an expert in mitigating the negative impacts of Electromagnetic
    Field (EMF) exposure. He has a leading website on the topic and consults with
    individuals, families and organizations around the world to implement solutions that
    reduce and eliminate EMF pollution. Jeromy has an advanced degree in Civil
    Engineering and has worked in Silicon Valley for 15 years. After becoming what
    medical doctors call “Electro-hypersensitive” (EHS) in 2011 after extensive
    exposure to EMF radiation, he embarked on a journey of regaining his own health
    and educating others to critically evaluate theirs.


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    EMF Health Alert Issued By Former Silicon Valley Tech Expert: ‘Wireless Wake-Up Call’

    By David on 22nd February 2016 Corporate Crime, Medical/Health



    Awareness continues to increase surrounding the health dangers of Electromagnetic
    Fields (EMFs) emanating from our daily gadgets, as well as from the rise of the Smart
    Grid. Over the last few years we have witnessed a range of experts declare their
    concern about the current path we are on.

    A prominent neuroscientist has gone on record in a lecture to the medical community
    itself where he exposed the many health risks as well as an industry-wide attempt by
    telecom to cover up the negative consequences. A world-renown biochemist has sought
    to abolish WiFi in schools. And a British ER physician has made it her mission to educate
    people about what steps they can take to minimize exposure and damage to WiFi. A
    slew of peer-review scientific studies have supported the warnings of these experts.’

    http://www.activistpost.com/2016/02/...ch-expert.html
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    SMART METERS & EMF RADIATION ➜ The Health Crisis Of Our Time!



    Published on 30 Dec 2012

    ★ If You Care About Your Health You Must Watch this insightful interview with
    Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt MD from the spectacular and pivotal documentary film
    "Take Back Your Power" about Smart Meters + EMF Radiation.

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    Default Re: Wi-Fi & Smart Meters : ‘Wireless Wake-Up Call’ health dangers of Electromagnetic Fields

    Good to see this coming back up again. The books put out by Robert. O. Becker, "The Body Electric" is the most accurate that I have seen as to how cells can be altered by potential placed across them.. I don't think Becker had enough lab analysis to show DNA, or chromosome alteration.

    Many organizations (read lobbies) have poo poo'd EM assault on the body. Saying it is ONLY the thermal absorption that can be dangerous based on the frequency of the assault, and which body organ is heated up (and they point out from celltowers, powerlines, tv towers, radio towers one simply does NOT get heating unless one is connected TO the antenna with sitting on it, or a hand grabbing it)...

    However, what was hidden in the lobbies, is the "SCALAR" component can do the deed of creating harm. That was hidden, that was blocked, that was steered far far away from. The scalar component happens with MULTI-PATH absorption, where reflections of the incoming wave plus the direct wave interact in tissue, or a resistive absorbative substance...

    ref: http://www.wirelessimpacts.org/science/becker.html - "the Body Electric" Linda M. Howe interview with Becker on bio-effects of British cellphones

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Body_Electric_(book) - wiki - "the Body Electric"

    http://www.theseekerbooks.com/articles/electric.htm - Dr. Becker's 1990 book, Cross Currents, The Perils of Electropollution - here Becker shows how the immune system is compromised by EM assault.

    and https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-r...-and-the-foun/
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    Default Re: Wi-Fi & Smart Meters : ‘Wireless Wake-Up Call’ health dangers of Electromagnetic Fields

    These vids are from 2011 and are bit academic and a little heavy going.I started
    watching them to get a mainstream view of the problem , though it is five years old


    2011 Dr Bann: Wireless Radiation is a Class 2 B Carcinogen Classification




    Published on 22 Nov 2015

    Listen to World Health expert Dr. Bann describe the classification of wireless as a
    Class 2 B carcinogen. This Seminar can be accessed in full at http://www.swinburne.edu.au/lss/bpsyc...

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    Q and A Interview with World Health Organization Dr. Bann on Wireless a Class 2 B Carcinogen



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbBTFZ5Kezc

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    Panel Discussion on Wireless RF EMF as a Carcinogen



    Published on 22 Nov 2015

    World Health Experts and Australian experts discuss wireless. Watch this
    Symposium on Radiofrequency (including Mobile Phones) and Public Health
    at Swinburne University on 2014
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    How to avoid EMF radiation risks from computers, microwaves, cell phones, and other household items



    Published on 22 Jul 2013

    An EMF detector shows the dangerous health risks present in your everyday life.
    That includes Microwave ovens, Laptop computers, Cell Phones, Refrigerators
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    Default Re: Wi-Fi & Smart Meters : ‘Wireless Wake-Up Call’ health dangers of Electromagnetic Fields

    There's a guy named Lloyd Burrell who has a website here:
    http://www.electricsense.com/emf-protection-store/ who does frequent interviews with experts on the problems with EMF sensitivity.
    You can email him at lloyd@electricsense.com to get added to his free newsletter list.
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    Default Re: Wi-Fi & Smart Meters : ‘Wireless Wake-Up Call’ health dangers of Electromagnetic Fields

    This is a very timely post. This is not a new topic to me but it has been out of sight and out of mind and my most recent project at work is bidding on a complete WiFi and beacon infrastructure overhaul at the San Francisco Airport. We have already done 2 terminals as Proof of Concept but I would be willing to bet that no one at my company, as smart as most of them are, has any idea about WiFi as a carcinogen and a health hazard.

    Thanks Cider for the very relevant post.

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    Here's another possible EMF protection option.I don't know if it works but it sounds promising.You can get personal protection where ever you go and a stronger protection at home.There is plenty of info at the website.

    cheers


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    Here's another possible EMF protection option.I don't know if it works but it sounds promising.You can get personal protection where ever you go and a stronger protection at home.There is plenty of info at the website.

    cheers


    http://www.blushield.com.au/
    Wow, wonder why so expensive?

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    Wow, wonder why so expensive?

    Well it might not be perceived as being expensive if you get constant 90 meter protection around your house from cell phone towers,3g/4g/5g etc,wi-fi,neighbours routers,smart meters,power lines etc for $349 or 3 meter personal protection where ever you go for $179.

    It probably depends on how dangerous these EMF fields are and how much protection the devices give you.If you get 100% protection and EMF's are dangerous to humans health then the devices could be perceived as being good value.

    cheers
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    Quote Kano said:

    Wow, wonder why so expensive?

    Well it might not be perceived as being expensive if you get constant 90 meter protection around your house from cell phone towers,3g/4g/5g etc,wi-fi,neighbours routers,smart meters,power lines etc for $349 or 3 meter personal protection where ever you go for $179.

    It probably depends on how dangerous these EMF fields are and how much protection the devices give you.If you get 100% protection and EMF's are dangerous to humans health then the devices could be perceived as being good value.

    cheers
    True, "expensive" is a relative term. The spirit of my question was surrounding the fact that since most people live paycheck to paycheck, such protection is unattainable for the average person and clearly from these videos, we are ALL exposed to this radiation to varying degrees. It just seems that there has to be a more efficient way to combat these frequencies.

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    How to avoid EMF radiation risks from computers, microwaves, cell phones, and other household items



    Published on 22 Jul 2013

    An EMF detector shows the dangerous health risks present in your everyday life.
    That includes Microwave ovens, Laptop computers, Cell Phones, Refrigerators
    and solutions on how to avoid them.
    hold up a piece of paper and watch the EMF meter drop to zero (assuming very few reflective surfaces)... EMF can't penetrate much when it's in the high hz ranges... the only thing I'd be concerned about is possible resonance points at octaves that could effect us (as of now I know of no such phenomenon, though I think it's a possible one).
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    Default Re: Wi-Fi & Smart Meters : ‘Wireless Wake-Up Call’ health dangers of Electromagnetic Fields

    The TEDx organization certainly lends credibility to the talk in the original post (#1). Sensible, measured, and from someone who is qualified to talk on the subject. A good, un-sensational summary of the matter.

    But to anyone who is unfamiliar with the physics of EM radiation, I would caution against buying any 'EM Meters' that are not accurately calibrated, not clear what they are measuring (AC, DC, electrostatic, magnetic fields), don't differentiate what the frequency being measured is and don't show any units.

    Good EMF meters are laboratory items and don't come cheap from Amazon or Ebay. Domestic quality ones give an indication that 'something' is being detected, but unless you understand what and how it's being detected you may be made unnecessarily anxious - or worse - wrongly assured that all is well. It might be said that the sale of these products to the general public is taking advantage of people's fear and lack of understanding.

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    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    ... the only thing I'd be concerned about is possible resonance points at octaves that could effect us (as of now I know of no such phenomenon, though I think it's a possible one).
    You've hit the nail on the head there sir!

    A colleague told me that working on high-power radio transmitters with resonant wavelengths related to the dimensions of the human body are particularly dangerous. That would be for example say frequencies that have quarter wavelengths that are multiples of a person's height; say 2 metres = 150 MHz. So that would be approximately 37.5, 75, 150 MHz etc. And above that there is the RF heating effect.

    RF engineers have only been bothered about resonance and heating effects in high RF fields, and to my knowledge we are not dropping like files or suffering from the vague symptoms of electro-sensitivity, reported to be caused by RF fields many orders of magnitude weaker. (Tragically there has been at least one case where a transmitter engineer was accidentally cooked to death while working on very high power TV transmitter antenna.)

    Nevertheless, I'm not suggesting electro-sensitivity does not exist (the video in the OP clearly suggests that it does), but it needs thorough investigation.
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    Quote Nevertheless, I'm not suggesting electro-sensitivity does not exist (the
    video in the OP clearly suggests that it does), but it needs thorough investigation
    The conclusion from the 2011 reviews of studies in post 4 above seemed to be
    that there was not enough evidence either way.

    This is probably the easiest to understand out of the three I posted....



    ==================================================

    An article from todays headline page.....


    Great balls of fire! Mobile phones are ‘cooking’ men’s sperm

    By David on 23rd February 2016 Medical/Health




    ‘Using a mobile phone for even one hour a day can be so damaging to sperm
    that men may develop difficulties conceiving, fertility experts have warned.

    A study by British scientists has found that exposure to mobile phones close
    to the testicles, or within a foot or two of the body, can ‘cook’ sperm,
    dramatically reducing its levels.

    Results from the study showed that men who keep their phones in their pocket
    during the day had reduced sperm levels in 47 percent of cases, as opposed to
    just 11 percent of the general population.’

    Read more: Great balls of fire! Mobile phones are ‘cooking’ men’s sperm

    https://www.rt.com/uk/333265-mobile-...ampaign=chrome
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    I was trying to remember where I had heard about this subject and it was the
    interviews with Barrie Trower . Some interesting concepts including that the high
    amount of Police violence is due to Tetra, he explains this and more.....

    This may explain why police violence has gone up ......




    Royal Navy microwave weapons Researcher Barrie Trower Says That WiFi Is Killing Us And Quickly



    Published on 4 Jan 2016

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    POLICE VIOLENCE, CANCER AND STERILITY – THANKS TO NWO TECHNOLOGY

    19th September 2015Current African News, Health, New World Order


    Dr. Barrie Trower is a physicist, he has been a microwave weapons researcher for
    the Royal Navy and British Intelligence and is a pre-eminent expert on microwave
    technology and the health effects of Wifi and other forms of microwave radiation.
    Fortunately for us he is also a decent and caring person who now spends his time
    sharing his wealth of knowledge to warn the general public about this; unlike many
    governments like those of the USA, Britain, South Africa, Rwanda and Nigeria
    among others, who are dishing out this technology without issuing any health
    warnings. In fact these governments are in denial of any of the adverse effects on
    our physical and mental health.

    http://africanagenda.net/police-viol...wo-technology/
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    This is a more indepth interview..... He explains how ? why ? where ? when ?
    this has developed from the cold war experiments from the 1950's thru to today.

    Barrie Trower Talks with Victims of Non Consensual Microwave and EMF Experimentation and Testing




    Published on 16 Jan 2015


    Barrie Trower Talks with Victims of Non Consensual Microwave and EMF Experimentation and Testing Trower
    EMF EMR Experimentation Phone Tower Cell Mast Danger Microwave Victim

    Antenna Arpansa Dr.smart meters Scientist MICROWAVE WEAPONRY'S USE ON PEOPLE Weapon physicist UK Australian
    emrrfsa Health DNA Damage RF radiation Electromagnetic Radiation Mast Victims Deborah Tavares SmartMetersMurder

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    CELLDAR....




    http://www.itsinternational.com/cate...-in-real-time/



    http://www.declarepeace.org.uk/capta...site/grid.html
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    Smart Meter Hijinks At State Level

    By David on 25th February 2016 Big Brother, Corporate Crime, Medical/Health




    ‘Here in Southeast Pennsylvania, where I live, there’s been a tremendous push to install
    AMI Smart Meters, which many consumers really are afraid of for various reasons, but
    have forced on to them and their properties by “hard ball” tactics utilities like PECO, an
    Exelon Company, and the PA Public Utility Commission engage in.

    Recently, Pennsylvania Smart Meter Awareness (PASMA) sent out a press release which,
    I think, indicates what’s really going on, i.e., the utilities and PUC are the ones breaking
    Act 129, which they claim they have to enforce all while harassing people, since it’s the
    law! Plus, there are no opt-outs for any reason, while numerous opt-out bills languish in
    the PA House Consumer Affairs Committee because the committee chair, Robert Godshall,
    whose son works for PECO, vows he will never call any opt-out bills for a vote, thereby
    denying Pennsylvanians of their right to redress government on a critical health I
    ssue—electromagnetic pollution from microwaves that operate smart meters.’

    Read more: Smart Meter Hijinks At State Level

    http://www.naturalblaze.com/2016/02/...ate-level.html

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    Default Re: Wi-Fi & Smart Meters : ‘Wireless Wake-Up Call’ health dangers of Electromagnetic Fields

    Just found some more EMF protection options after listening to the interview below.



    Elizabeth Plourde "EMF Pollution Is Invading Our Cells, Killing Children & Causing Infertility!"
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    Here's the link for the Safety Products http://newvoice.net/shop/emf-products.html
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    Default Re: Wi Fi & Smart Meters : ‘Wireless Wake-Up Call’ health dangers of Electromagnetic Fields

    I'm one of these emf sensitive people....headache, brain fog..even heart stress. But it's mostly when i'm using a wifi device. Just plain ol wifi will occasionally give me symptoms..but mainly its when im on.the smart phone or.computer.

    But my newest symptom is stinging eyes. I don't mean tired, blurry vision from having been on the computer too long...I mean stinging, watery eyes within minutes of using my smart phone that will sometimes last for 10-15 mins after i'm done using it.

    I'm getting it right now.

    It's a very real phenomenon(these symptoms)...and yet, ridicule remains. " It's all in your head", right? I just love that one. I mean..is there anything more arrogant than another person assuming they know more about your personal experience with wifi than you do? Ive had this experience several times..

    So i'm glad respected professionals are standing up. Science really needs to take a closer look
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