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    Antarctica Disclosure to Save the World - Dr. Michael Salla .....Nordics & Reptilians
    Trump seems to know more than you think from some of his comments and his
    cabinet and increasing mil budgets......



    Published on 18 Feb 2017

    What is under the ice of Antarctica? Top Nazi war criminals, Rudolf Hess and
    Hermann Goering visited Antarctica. Admiral Byrd flew to the Inner Earth in
    Antarctica. The Patriarch Kirill of Moscow was there a year ago. Skull and
    Bones member and Secretary of State, John Kerry, made a surprise trip to
    Antarctica during Trump's election. And, Buzz Aldrin, the Freemason that
    established Tranquility Lodge 2000 on the moon, fell ill after his recent
    trip to Antarctica.

    Leslie Stevens created the 1970's epic, Battlestar Galactica stating, "All of
    this has happened before, and all of this will happen again." Will the release
    of classified DARPA technologies enslave or free humanity? Will Donald
    Trump cure cancer!? Could we have saved Richard Hatch? If you remember,
    pretending to be his character, Apollo, in my youth, revealed to me my
    father's secret connections to Freemasonry, submarines, and even, chasing
    flying saucers! You will be missed Richard.


    Whistleblowers are exploding our concepts of history. Is there an ancient advanced
    civilization under the glaciers of the South Pole? Has extraterrestrial technology
    created a divide in the military branches? Who controls space?
    http://freemantv.com/antarctica-discl
    ...


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    Freeman says look up 'Space Battlelab's I don't know if this is genuine ? Its pretty
    comprehensive .....




    The Air Force Space Battlelab, Headquarters, Space Warfare Center, is located at
    Schriever Air Force Base, CO.



    The Space Battlelab is one of six units activated in July 1997 to identify innovative
    operational and logistics concepts and rapidly measure their potential to advance
    the Air Force's core competencies. The Space Battlelab focuses on air and space
    superiority, but also works closely with other Air Force Battlelabs


    read more..
    http://www.globalsecurity.org/space/agency/swc-sb.htm
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    ..................................................my first language is TYPO..............................................

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    I think i posted part 1 earlier in the thread , and is where science & Science fiction
    is difficult to tell apart unless you have connected the dots from other researchers
    and it becomes more plausible in parts .....

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    David Wilcock | Corey Goode: Endgame II-- The Antarctic Atlantis ET Ruins/ Cabal Rescue Plan



    Published on 14 Dec 2016

    Join David Wilcock (http://dwilcock.com) as he narrates this groundbreaking
    insider mega-leak of intel with Corey Goode (spherebeingalliance.com). The
    Establishment is threatened like never before. Are they about to disclose
    advanced, hi-tech ruins under the ice in Antarctica, and a limited secret
    space program, to try to save the Illuminati / New World Order agenda?

    The realities of human trafficking and occult ceremonies at the highest levels
    are spreading like wildfire. Disclosure may be the only sufficiently distracting
    move the Cabal has left.

    This is some of the most surprising, fascinating and relevant inside intel we
    have ever posted. Multiple Alliance groups have urged us to get this out as
    fast as possible, and here we are.

    The story is so incredible that you may need to just treat it like a sci-fi movie
    ... but even if that's the only level you can accept it at, you should still find
    this to be most fascinating! It is a great overview of the Cosmic Disclosure
    narrative and an update to the most current inside information.

    The mainstream media almost immediately started writing about ancient
    civilizations in Antarctica after we were urged to get out this update. Never
    before have we seen such an immediate correlation. This is getting exciting!

    Read the stunning investigation in its full form at: http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/da...
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    Linda Moulton-Howe Earth Files....

    Hidden in Antartica a Naval Officer tells us Exactly What He Saw , he mentions
    the Bill Tomkins interview with Linda.



    Published on 2 Mar 2017

    A truly shocking and astonishing video on extremely strange events in the Antarctic.
    A naval officer tells us what he remembers, including seeing a huge opening in the
    ice in a no-fly area they were crossing with a medical emergency on board. Then
    he ferried a group of scientists who had disappeared for two weeks, and has
    specifically been warned not to refer again to this subject. As he put it, "they
    looked scared." When they returned to McMurdo, their gear was isolated and they
    were flown back to Christchurch, New Zealand in a special plane.

    He discusses what he saw and experienced in detail. This is the most provocative
    story about what is going on in Antarctica ever presented anywhere.
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    Ancient Technology in Antartica Joseph P. Farrell Special

    Dreamland with Whitley...



    From around the end of 2016 , its after Trumps victory but
    before his inauguration....Talks about Antarctica , Trump ,
    9/ 11 , Nazi and related topics....


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    Interesting articles...

    RUETERS....

    Hunters slay 3,500 reindeer on island near Antarctica

    Environment | Mon Mar 18, 2013

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-re...92H0SA20130318

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgGNo7Pv4u0

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    Rare Look Inside Antarctic Explorers’ Huts | National Geographic

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cTTaGEnRfI

    Published on 16 Feb 2015
    After 10 years of conservation efforts, the huts that once housed the likes
    of Robert Falcon Scott and Ernest Shackleton are ready for a new generation.
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    Interview starts approx 33 mins in.....She is on for an hour.

    Ep. 625 FADE to BLACK Jimmy Church w/ Linda Moulton Howe : Antarctica Revelations : LIVE



    Published on 16 Mar 2017
    Linda Moulton Howe is a graduate of Stanford University with a Master’s
    Degree in Communication. She has devoted her documentary film, television,
    radio, writing and reporting career to productions concerning science, medicine
    and the environment. Ms. Howe has received local, national and international
    awards, including three regional Emmys, a national Emmy nomination and a
    Station Peabody award.

    Linda produces reports and edits Earthfiles.com, has her own radio program
    with John Burroughs on KGRA, appears on Coast to Coast AM, Ancient Aliens
    since it’s first season…and has traveled in Venezuela, Peru, Brazil, England,
    Norway, France, Switzerland, The Netherlands, Yugoslavia, Turkey, Ethiopia,
    Kenya, Egypt, Australia, Japan, Canada, Mexico, the Yucatan and Puerto Rico
    for research and productions.

    In addition to all of her research on Earthfiles... Linda now has a new series
    on Gaia called Truth Hunters...

    Tonight we discuss the recent revelations in Antarctica and later in the show
    Jimmy covers Cicada 3301 and the Mojave Phone Booth.


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    Linda talks about this in above vid.....

    Confirmation of Corey Goode’s Testimony about Antarctica & Underground E.T Bases?



    https://ascendingstarseed.wordpress....und-e-t-bases/
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    Secrets of Antarctica: Alien Bases, Pyramids and the True Shape of the Earth

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REKDPtY2qxk

    Published on 15 Jan 2017
    Secrets of Antarctica: Underground Bases, Pyramids and the True Shape of the Earth

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    semi related articles from mainstream ....



    Short vid on link....http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-39314068

    Buzz Aldrin launches VR plan to get humans to Mars

    Buzz Aldrin, the second man to set foot on the Moon, has launched
    a virtual reality movie detailing his plan to get humans to Mars.
    The film - Cycling Pathways to Mars - lasts just under 10 minutes
    and features the astronaut as a hologram narrating the experience.

    Dave Lee interviewed him for the BBC.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-39314068


    Behind the Scenes: "Buzz Aldrin: Cycling Pathways to Mars" VR Experience

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bff_YHdVYM

    Published on 13 Mar 2017
    Buzz Aldrin is an American astronaut best known for piloting the Lunar
    Module on the Apollo 11 mission in 1969, and the second person to set
    foot on the moon. While it was a historic achievement, Dr. Aldrin wants
    to be remembered for more than just "kicking up moon dust." He wants
    his legacy to include laying the groundwork for a permanent human
    settlement on Mars, and he has a plan. This world’s first holographic
    ‘archival VR’ project, created by 8i, will give viewers a unique
    opportunity to ‘meet’ the astronaut through his hologram today, and
    will give future generations a chance to experience his legacy, long
    after mankind has made the journey to Mars.

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    Buzz Aldrin Talks South Pole Health Scare, Death Of ‘All-American
    Guy’ John Glenn | TODAY

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUIxHVzmKvU

    Published on 14 Dec 2016
    In an exclusive interview, Buzz Aldrin, 86, tells TODAY’s Al Roker about
    his visit to the South Pole and the health scare that cut it short. While
    hospitalized, Aldrin learned of the death of his friend and fellow astronaut
    John Glenn, whom he remembers as an “all-American guy.”
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    By WakingTimes March 19, 2017



    The Whistleblower Who Exposes Government Extraterrestrial Connections

    Makia Freeman, Contributor
    Waking Times

    William Tompkins is one of the most incredible whistleblowers to step forward.
    The depth and implications of his testimony are nothing short of astounding.
    Of course, there will always be those who refuse to believe his story, since he
    is an ET (Extraterrestrial) whistleblower.


    read more...


    Maria Orsic of the Thule Society.


    Another US military patch featuring the reptile theme and a Latin motto. Rough
    translation: “With all your bases, you’re a slave to us.”


    http://www.wakingtimes.com/2017/03/1...l-connections/
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    interesting...

    President Trump Signs S. 442 . NASA Deep Space exploration.



    Published on 21 Mar 2017

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    From todays Davids channel posted for interest....

    Archons, Gnosticism & The Reptilian Agenda - David Icke

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxP86-T8jBo

    Published on 21 Mar 2017
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    Interview starts approx 33mins and around 50th min he mentions possible
    NAZI basis in the Artic in passing and more incidents in the former USSR
    and Russia.....They also talk about Melvedev's Alien comments.

    Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev Says Aliens Have Visited
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d8NGCUNb6U

    Ep. 627 FADE to BLACK Jimmy Church w/ Paul Stonehill : UFOs in Russia



    Published on 21 Mar 2017
    Paul Stonehill was born in Kiev, USSR, in 1959 and emigrated to the U.S. in 1972.
    In his youth, Paul helped smuggle people out from behind the iron curtain, aided
    dissidents, and smuggled banned literature into the USSR. He graduated from
    California State University with a BA in Political Science and wrote a thesis on the
    Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. Paul has worked as journalist covering warfare as
    well as freelancing on stories about UFO and Anomalous Phenomena. In October of
    1993, OMNI Magazine featured a story about Paul’s work, and the Russian Ufology
    Research Center, which he created back in 1991.

    The topics of his published writing include: Soviet and Russian military research of
    paranormal phenomena, underwater unidentified phenomena, mysteries of the Soviet
    space program, mysteries of ancient history, Time Travel experiments in Russia, ghost
    trains of Eurasia, Soviet mind control programs, and UFO phenomena in Russia, Ukraine,
    and the Baltics.

    Tonight we will discuss Ancient Astronauts of Eurasia, the Russian space program and
    UFOs and Russian military research of UFOs and USOs from the secret files of the Soviet
    Union and Russia as well as his latest research into the Mariana Trench.

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    New Mystery of Dyatlov Pass: Body found at site of unexplained tragedy of 1959

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_inSUeZClFY

    Published on 12 Jan 2016
    A body has been discovered by tourists at the infamous Dyatlov Pass in Russia’s
    Ural Mountains where nine hikers mysteriously died in 1959. Emergency services
    have reportedly momentarily lost contact with the group.

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    UFOS OF THE RUSSIAN ARCTIC
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N4cZB2xPyk
    Published on 3 Feb 2017
    UFOs of the Russian Arctic: remote and forbidden territories attract uninvited
    visitors. Are they extraterrestrials? What do they seek in the land of ice and
    permafrost? Why do they invade Russian skies?
    Published on 28 Jan 2017

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    UFOS OF THE RUSSIAN ANTARCTICA PART 1 ( 13 mins)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YicDPMZo-7s
    Published on 27 Jan 2017
    Fascinating reports from the annals of the secret history of the encounters in
    Antarctica during the Soviet period.

    UFOS OF THE RUSSIAN ANTARCTICA PART 2 ( 6.45 mins )...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um9uOTBmdW4
    Unidentified submerged objects in the Antarctic waters: reports of the KGB from
    1985. And pages of the classified history: Russian UFO Antarctic encounters in 1947.
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    Ep. 629 FADE to BLACK Jimmy Church w/ Mike Bara : Mars Images Update : LIVE




    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piYICWqXxLw


    Published on 23 Mar 2017


    Mike Bara is a New York Times Bestselling author, lecturer and TV personality. He began his writing
    career after spending more than 25 years as an engineering consultant for major aerospace companies,
    where he was a card-carrying member of the Military/Industrial complex. A self-described “Born Again
    conspiracy theorist,” Mike’s first book Dark Mission-The Secret History of NASA (co-authored with
    Richard C. Hoagland) was a New York Times bestseller in 2007. His 2nd book, The Choice, was
    published in 2010.In 2012, Mike published Ancient Aliens on the Moon from Adventures Unlimited Press.
    In 2013, Mike returned with Ancient Aliens on Mars, a new book from Adventures Unlimited Press which
    will look at the hidden history of Mars and the vast, ancient civilization which once flourished there.

    His latest books are: Ancient Aliens and Secret Societies and Hidden Agenda: NASA and the Secret Space Program.

    Mike is a regular contributor to the History Channel's Ancient Aliens.

    All of the images discussed in this broadcast can be found on the Mike Bara page at http://jimmychurchradio.com/mike-bara...

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    Mike Bara On Fade To Black
    March 22nd 2017

    images on link press gallery ....http://jimmychurchradio.com/mike-bar...de-to-black-4/
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    Default Re: PASSED, aged 94: William (Bill) Tompkins, ET and Nazi UFOs Whistleblower

    At the end of this outstanding recent Australian presentation by Richard Dolan — which I cannot recommend too highly — Richard was asked his opinion about Bill Tompkins. His reply is revealing, and can be heard at 3:52:35. (My view is the same as his, btw.)

    Transcript:

    As far as Bill Tompkins and Corey Goode, I’ll just say, hopefully without making enemies, I’m not really on board with either of those scenarios.

    I did have the opportunity to read Bill Tompkins’ text. I was offered the opportunity to publish it, which I declined. So if you ever wonder if I’m just out for the money, you’ll know that I'm not, because I could have made good money on that book. It’s selling quite well.

    But I could not EVER, in good conscience, publish that book. I just find way too much that’s questionable about it, and I would not EVER want to associate my name with it.

    That doesn’t mean that I don’t believe there’s a secret space program. As I’ve said, I do believe in one. I just don’t believe in his. There are too many historical inaccuracies and anomalies to bother going into.

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    In connection to Germans, the Vrill Society and Nazis flying in saucers I ran across this document, I have no idea if it is real or not but the images provoked are entertaining regardless.



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    Default Re: PASSED, aged 94: William (Bill) Tompkins, ET and Nazi UFOs Whistleblower

    My one issue w/SOME (if not most) of the researchers with all of this, is (as an example) what Rich Dolan stated during his conference in Australia. I did view that entire lecture. It was very good, w/one caveat (for me at any rate). When Richard responded to a question about both Corey and Bill Tompkins, if memory serves, he stated he had issues w/both these alleged whistle-blowers. Rich did not get into any specifics as to either one of these men and their stories. He simply stated he could not validate either one of them. He stated he would not publish Tompkins' book; stated he wouldn't touch it.

    But here's the thing: WHY. Rich stated there were just too many issues w/Tompkins' story to get 'into' during that lecture. I take issue w/that. If he's going to state, on the record, before a number of people, that he cannot validate Tompkins' story, then he at least owes his listening audience a few examples as to WHY. He doesn't need to go into a diatribe about some of that, but at least give a modicum of reasons as to why he has issues w/Tompkins' story.

    Bill Ryan did the same thing. Again, if memory serves, Bill stated that he, too, had issues with Tompkins' story, but that there were too many issues w/Tompkins' timeline (which is what Richard stated) to get into here, at this forum. The least that should be done is if you're going to essentially disparage someone's testimony, at least explain why you feel the way you do.

    From what I understand from Bob Wood's statements regarding Tompkins, Bob states unequivocally that Tompkins worked at the same corporation that Bob did at one point, so he can at least verify some of Tompkins' work history. But there's another whistle-blower by the name of Mark Richards who has, to my knowledge, absolutely no verified documentation as to ANY of his story to back up his claims re participation in the Secret Space program. He has nothing to back up his claims. But yet, because he's willing to go PUBLIC w/his story, for some reason, he's now being touted as a bona fide whistle-blower.

    I realize researchers need to keep themselves constantly evolving; they need fresh material to keep up w/his/her status quo. But I would contend that any true insider will never, ever be able to go public, for various reasons.

    So this issue w/proper vetting bothers me, not so much on a personal level, but because there are so many gullible people out there who will believe ANYTHING anyone says, simply because said whistle-blower has been vouched for by certain researchers. I would maintain that an open mind w/any and all of this stuff, is vital, but along w/that open mind is the willingness to perform due diligence as much as possible, about anyone's story that's put out there. That takes time and can get quite tedious, but it must be done. Using a combination of one's intuition, common sense, logic and good analytical skills, are key to discernment. When I did my own research into the whole Mark Richards story, I discovered a website called Skymatters. It's run by a former attorney, if I am correct. He commenced w/his own research into the Richards story, and was not able to verify anything that Richards' wife has stated on the record. I've already posted links to that website in a prior comment, so I won't repeat that here. So unless someone knows something more about Mark than what has been found by others who have done their research into his story, I fail to understand how in the world this man's story can be deemed credible.

    This lack of proper vetting has been shown time and again, to be an issue for many of these researchers and those of whom they've been willing to prop up on a pedestal. Truth is important, but it should be more important than using someone's story to prop one's self up as some sort of truthseeker. It does anger me when I've seen this happen, because it besmirches this entire movement when this happens.

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    ...Corey and Bill Tompkins, if memory serves, he stated he had issues w/both these alleged whistle-blowers. Rich did not get into any specifics as to either one of these men and their stories. He simply stated he could not validate either one of them. He stated he would not publish Tompkins' book; stated he wouldn't touch it.

    But here's the thing: WHY. Rich stated there were just too many issues w/Tompkins' story to get 'into' during that lecture. I take issue w/that. If he's going to state, on the record, before a number of people, that he cannot validate Tompkins' story, then he at least owes his listening audience a few examples as to WHY. He doesn't need to go into a diatribe about some of that, but at least give a modicum of reasons as to why he has issues w/Tompkins' story.
    Watch the video: it's here at 3:52:35, at the very end of the whole video. He was responding to a question from the audience, under pressure of time, in the closing minutes of a long lecture.

    He said (exactly):
    As far as Bill Tompkins and Corey Goode, I’ll just say, hopefully without making enemies, I’m not really on board with either of those scenarios.

    I did have the opportunity to read Bill Tompkins’ text. I was offered the opportunity to publish it, which I declined. So if you ever wonder if I’m just out for the money, you’ll know that I'm not, because I could have made good money on that book. It’s selling quite well.

    But I could not EVER, in good conscience, publish that book. I just find way too much that’s questionable about it, and I would not EVER want to associate my name with it.

    That doesn’t mean that I don’t believe there’s a secret space program. As I’ve said, I do believe in one. I just don’t believe in his. There are too many historical inaccuracies and anomalies to bother going into.




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    No, Bill. You're still not honing in on my question. Rich stated, "I did have the opportunity to read Bill Tompkins’ text. I was offered the opportunity to publish it, which I declined. So if you ever wonder if I’m just out for the money, you’ll know that I'm not, because I could have made good money on that book. It’s selling quite well. But I could not EVER, in good conscience, publish that book. I just find way too much that’s questionable about it, and I would not EVER want to associate my name with it."

    I am asking what, SPECIFICALLY, was it about Tompkins' story that Rich found questionable. Dolan never states specifics. Were there time-line issues with Tompkins' story that Dolan has issues with? I am asking for specifics as to what precisely the issues were for Dolan re Tompkins' material.

    If I had been a member of that Australian audience and heard Richard state the above, I would have asked him to provide a more detailed explanation as to what he specifically had issues with as it pertained to Tompkins' testimony. Simply stating that he had 'issues' with it, doesn't cut the mustard.

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    No, Bill. You're still not honing in on my question. Rich stated, "I did have the opportunity to read Bill Tompkins’ text. I was offered the opportunity to publish it, which I declined. So if you ever wonder if I’m just out for the money, you’ll know that I'm not, because I could have made good money on that book. It’s selling quite well. But I could not EVER, in good conscience, publish that book. I just find way too much that’s questionable about it, and I would not EVER want to associate my name with it."

    I am asking what, SPECIFICALLY, was it about Tompkins' story that Rich found questionable. Dolan never states specifics. Were there time-line issues with Tompkins' story that Dolan has issues with? I am asking for specifics as to what precisely the issues were for Dolan re Tompkins' material.

    If I had been a member of that Australian audience and heard Richard state the above, I would have asked him to provide a more detailed explanation as to what he specifically had issues with as it pertained to Tompkins' testimony. Simply stating that he had 'issues' with it, doesn't cut the mustard.
    Yes, I do understand your question, and I can do this. (It may take a bit of time.)

    Richard Dolan himself, if you watched that closing section of the video, was asked the question very near the end of his presentation. He had no time to go into all the many details.

    You may have seen that I wrote this (post #65 on this thread), back in September 2016. But I didn't address the substantive anomalies.

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    I've been reading Bill Tompkins' book, Selected by Extraterrestrials. 100 pages in, and I'm finding it hard going.

    Bob Wood
    , who knows a thing or two, wrote in his Preface:
    Bill's life story skirts the edge of believability.
    I'd go beyond that, and say that it crashes right over the edge. Some of it is near-impossible to believe -- even for those with a wide-open mind about the history, and reality, of the Secret Space Program.

    Tompkins (in my opinion) does himself no favors because the book reads like a series of unconnected vignettes, almost randomly assembled. In some cases, although faux-conversationally styled -- in an misguided (again in my opinion) attempt to make things readable -- it's really extremely hard to follow. The poorly-crafted attempts to introduce humor and banter into an utterly serious subject make it all feel a little farcical, and disconnect it further from reality.

    I get the impression (but do not know this as a fact) that Tompkins wrote these many separate sections as individual essays over maybe many years (some of them only a few paragraphs long)... and then Bob Wood, as the editor, did the best job he could to stitch them all together into a kind of unsatisfactory mosaic.

    Has anyone else read this...?

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    What cuts my mustard is that as far as I know, the name "Nordics" was a human invention for aliens who reminded us of Scandinavians.

    In Tompkins's story, he tells of a time when a Nordic female fell down stairs and was eventually aided by one of her own race who used the name Nordic as he explained to her who she really was.

    Having moved away from the Tompkins material for quite a while now I'm left with a feeling that is in complete agreement with Richard Dolan's phrase that there are too many problems with it.
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    ...Corey and Bill Tompkins, if memory serves, he stated he had issues w/both these alleged whistle-blowers. Rich did not get into any specifics as to either one of these men and their stories. He simply stated he could not validate either one of them. He stated he would not publish Tompkins' book; stated he wouldn't touch it.

    But here's the thing: WHY. Rich stated there were just too many issues w/Tompkins' story to get 'into' during that lecture. I take issue w/that. If he's going to state, on the record, before a number of people, that he cannot validate Tompkins' story, then he at least owes his listening audience a few examples as to WHY. He doesn't need to go into a diatribe about some of that, but at least give a modicum of reasons as to why he has issues w/Tompkins' story.
    Bill: I posted my response to the above comment this morning, but it doesn't appear on the thread for some odd reason. First, you've quoted what Dolan stated during this lecture, but as I've already explained in a prior comment, I have viewed the entirety of that lecture (2 combined lectures of Dolan's if I'm correct). So rather than repeat for me what Dolan stated, I am asking for the PRECISE reasoning behind Dolan's statement as to why he doesn't find Tompkins' story credible (or at least part of it credible, whichever the case may be). If I had been a member of that Australian audience and heard Rich make the above statement, I would have asked him to provide, w/more specificity, the reasoning behind his issues w/Tompkins' credibility. To me, this statement by Rich wherein he states he wouldn't associate his name to Tompkins story, is a pretty bold/blunt statement. BUT to me, if you're going to disparage someone's credibility in this manner, the least you can do is to provide factual, specific reasoning behind that statement. That is my issue.

    Example: WHY does Rich state he couldn't validate Tompkins' story? What, specifically, does he has issues with; is it questions which arise out of specifics having to do w/Tompkins' time-line? If so, what are those issues? Does Rich have issues over assertions of Tompkins as to the various professionals Tompkins states he worked with during his early years?

    Not asking for Rich to go into a diatribe, here. Just a couple of qualified answers, stating specifics as to the issues he has w/Tompkins.

    Hope this provides enough detail as to my issues with Dolan's statements re Tompkins...
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    Quote Posted by Bayareamom (here)
    ...Corey and Bill Tompkins, if memory serves, he stated he had issues w/both these alleged whistle-blowers. Rich did not get into any specifics as to either one of these men and their stories. He simply stated he could not validate either one of them. He stated he would not publish Tompkins' book; stated he wouldn't touch it.

    But here's the thing: WHY. Rich stated there were just too many issues w/Tompkins' story to get 'into' during that lecture. I take issue w/that. If he's going to state, on the record, before a number of people, that he cannot validate Tompkins' story, then he at least owes his listening audience a few examples as to WHY. He doesn't need to go into a diatribe about some of that, but at least give a modicum of reasons as to why he has issues w/Tompkins' story.
    Bill: I posted my response to the above comment this morning, but it doesn't appear on the thread for some odd reason. First, you've quoted what Dolan stated during this lecture, but as I've already explained in a prior comment, I have viewed the entirety of that lecture (2 combined lectures of Dolan's if I'm correct). So rather than repeat for me what Dolan stated, I am asking for the PRECISE reasoning behind Dolan's statement as to why he doesn't find Tompkins' story credible (or at least part of it credible, whichever the case may be). If I had been a member of that Australian audience and heard Rich make the above statement, I would have asked him to provide, w/more specificity, the reasoning behind his issues w/Tompkins' credibility. To me, this statement by Rich wherein he states he wouldn't associate his name to Tompkins story, is a pretty bold/blunt statement. BUT to me, if you're going to disparage someone's credibility in this manner, the least you can do is to provide factual, specific reasoning behind that statement. That is my issue.

    Example: WHY does Rich state he couldn't validate Tompkins' story? What, specifically, does he has issues with; is it questions which arise out of specifics having to do w/Tompkins' time-line? If so, what are those issues? Does Rich have issues over assertions of Tompkins as to the various professionals Tompkins states he worked with during his early years?

    Not asking for Rich to go into a diatribe, here. Just a couple of qualified answers, stating specifics as to the issues he has w/Tompkins.

    Hope this provides enough detail as to my issues with Dolan's statements re Tompkins...
    Hey bayareamom,

    I truly think you'll get a better answer about Dolan's reasons from Dolan himself. Asking Bill to explain why Dolan does what he does isn't going to clear anything up.
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