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    #1 -- there were very obviously actors on the street that day involved in moving disinformation about what was happening.
    #2 -- others on the street also made clear that there were no planes -- only explosions.
    That was also true of Pentagon.
    And CNN reporter with his film crew (Jamie McIntyre) also made
    that quite clear -- including the films by the crew ...
    though he was forced to retract his report!
    I'm sure they sent not only an incompetent reporter and crew to
    report that day on the story -- not only incompetent but blind, deaf
    and delusional.
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    Hmm so...this is between: witnesses who observed planes; witnesses who did not, presumably also denying the sound of planes; and non-witnesses who are sure that the second group must be mistaken, because there actually were holograms.

    That's a hot mess.

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    John Simpson --

    Actually, at the Pentagon it's believed that a plane was flown OVER the Pentagon as
    bombs were set off -- to those who saw the explosions it distracted from the fact
    that the plane flew on.

    They also suggest that at some time the same plane was flown near the WTC.

    Everyone should also recall Jamie McIntyre's report from the Pentagon -- NO PLANE.
    He worked for CNN and he and his team were assigned to the Pentagon as the alleged
    "hijacking" story went on. They were there before any explosion and afterwards.
    He reported NO PLANE hit the Pentagon.
    A NORAD pilot was also sent up to "find out what hit the Pentagon."
    Report came back -- "Nothing hit the Pentagon."

    But Jamie McIntyre was forced hours later to retract that story. Impossible to do as
    there is video. No plane, no debris other than something that could be hand-carried.

    Also female soldier behind the wall made clear NO PLANE.

    Best guess is that it was a bunker buster. Dimensions are right for it.
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    The WTC1/2 where hit by a planes. But they not where not the planes claimed in the official story. They where hit by remote controlled planes. There was something fired from the underside of the plane. This impacted just before the plane, which is thought by many to be some sort of incendiary. It's also possible that the impact area was prepared ahed of time. The engine from the plane that hit the south tower fell down to the street. It appears to be a different engine to flight 175. While it has been claimed that someone dropped it of there, and dropped of the wrong engine, this is unrealistic with so many people around.

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    There were no panes on 9/11 -- just the illusion of planes while the buildings
    were wired with explosions -- and certainly the STEEL CORE of the building
    was wired to break the steel girders up into convenient lengths to dispose of them.
    All typical of what demolition experts do.

    Alleged "engine" was found long after 9/11 -- an obvious plant -- and true, it doesn't
    match. So a mysterious engine having nothing to do with the alleged flights suddenly
    appears on the street. Sad.

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    Shaberon --

    No -- this is about actors on the street directing the story to line up with the preplanned myth.
    Though I can see the plotters and those who profited need to keep the myth of planes going --
    after all, they have FILM showing planes. That would mean that our networks were actually
    involved in creating faked videos -- or were accessories in playing those videos.

    This is about actual witnesses -- like the soldier sitting right behind the alleged area of impact who
    makes clear there was NO PLANE. She was there with her son that day -- and she and her son walked
    out of what actually looks like a bunker-buster round hole.

    And like the NORAD pilot who was immediately sent up by his commander to find out, "What hit the
    Pentagon?" The pilot flew over the Pentagon and around the area and then returned to confirm that
    "Nothing hit the Pentagon."

    There was one plane flown around that day -- near the WWT center towers and near the Pentagon and
    likely over DC -- but that plane didn't hit anything. As it flew OVER the Pentagon explosives were set off --
    just like what they did at the WTC.

    Firemen are another way to confirm all of this -- as they repeat -- boom, boom, boom -- explosions.
    Explosions which were preset to go off to look as though something had hit the towers -- and the Pentagon.

    No one believes the official myth any longer.




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    Hmm so...this is between: witnesses who observed planes; witnesses who did not, presumably also denying the sound of planes; and non-witnesses who are sure that the second group must be mistaken, because there actually were holograms.

    That's a hot mess.

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    Genghis6199's 9/11 Taboo (it may have been uploaded before but was "scrubbed from the net" some time ago) :

    the greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated --- Gandhi

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    No -- there may have been one plane which was flown nearby the WTC towers at some point --

    and that plane was probably also flown around DC area and OVER the Pentagon as bombs went off.

    But there were no planes and certainly no crashes.

    It was all fakery -- in fact, brought to your by TV.

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    still all these years later and no data...???




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    If it wasn't a plane, then what was it?


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    I thought the plane was exploded into thousand pieces? But there is definitely a plane, I saw it with my own eyes...

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    Here's a very interesting documentary released last month. One of the best on 9/11 in my opinion. Goes into the technology that was probably used.
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    Quote Posted by RaiseMachine (here)
    Here's a very interesting documentary released last month. One of the best on 9/11 in my opinion. Goes into the technology that was probably used.
    And for those who would rather read text, here are some notes (so far):

    9/11 Alchemy

    ******Manipulating the Aether*******the underlying sea of energy that life is maintained in.
    Judy Wood -- COLD Directed Energy Weapons
    Tesla---electrostatic fields
    _______________________________
    "The Dark Side of Tesla Technology"
    @14:20
    Mark Passio
    www.whatonearthishappening.com

    Tesla's technology was weaponized
    LOOK AT HIS:
    **experiments in vibration and resonance
    **experiments in scalar wave technology
    He understood electrostatic fields AND
    electromagnetic fields.
    Hurricanes are very similar to Tesla coils--they build up the static field.
    _______________________________
    Charge Cluster Anomalies
    Ken Shoulders
    www.svn.net/krscfs
    Bore holes in ceramics (aluminum oxide)
    Disruption of electron bonds appears like melting
    _______________________________

    There was a spike in earths electromagnetic field for every event on 9/11.
    "A hurricane is like a giant Tesla coil."

    Dry air can act as a sort of capacitor.
    A capacitor that holds an electric charge.

    DoD talking about using the spectrum as a warfare domain.

    By 1962 the Dept. Of Defense began weaponizing lasers as part of a technology that has come to be known as Directed Energy Weapons.

    @21:00 three types mentioned
    ~~~~
    Veteran's Affairs Committee:
    Gulf War (1991)
    In 2007 electromagnetic weapons and microwaves had been used in Iraq and it was asked if these could be contributing to the illnesses. Although they said it was unknown as to have effected illnesses, the EU European Environment Agency called for immediate action to reduce exposure to microwaves, following an international scientific review, which concluded that the safety limits set for the radiation was "thousands of times too lenient."
    _________________

    Scientific Technological Elite -- (((weaponized technology for their own agendas)))
    SAIC -- Science Applications International Corps. * leidos *
    ~~~
    DEPS -- Directed Energy Professional Society
    --->>>GOVT Contractors:
    * Boeing
    * Booz Allen Hamilton
    * Lockheed Martin
    * Raytheon
    * Northrop Grummin
    ___________________
    + Applied Research Associates, Leidos, SAIC
    NIST = National Institute for Standards in Technology

    Judy Wood filed lawsuit against these companies for using false science and for all of the conflicts of interest. Signed affidavit from John Hutchinson.
    Pointed out connection of the work of these companies and the nature of the destruction.

    John Alexander (1983) from Los Alamos National
    "You know people in the military are well aware of what you've been doing."

    WEAPONIZED ***and*** CLASSIFIED

    Prof. Morgan Reynolds filed a lawsuit against SAIC stating that a "767 wide body jetliner could not have done what video images depict -- such as attain the velocity of 540 mph. at 1,000 ft or less above sea level or penetrate solid structural steel from nose to tail, wing-tip to wing-tip, without exploding, without slowing, without degrading, crumpling or losing a single part."

    _________
    ARA -- Applied Research Associates
    * Investigated WTC 7
    * Aircraft impact analysis
    * Directed Energy Weapons
    * Weather Modification Research
    * Defendant in Qui Tam court case
    +++hurricane research

    WTC 7 listed as "Progressive collapse" on their website
    __________
    SAIC
    * Ground Zero clean up
    * Psychological operations
    * Directed Energy Weapons
    * Investigated WTC destruction
    * Defendants in Qui Tam court case
    ***CIA*** over half of them have security clearances

    David Kay***weapons of mass destruction/U.N.
    High ranking official of SAIC
    Wayne Downing--also with SAIC--these guys push for war
    Both with stocks in the company--urging for war
    David Kay then admits...NO WMUs

    SAIC got government contracts with no bidding for over $100 Million
    ...but later got far more...
    $280 Million for computer system for worldwide surveillance for email and telephone communications

    Revenue $$$ 4.5 Billion as of April 2018
    Those are our tax dollars.
    ______\\\\_____
    Quince Imaging
    Specializes in 3D Court Projection
    Founder.....Scott Williams
    Two of the three founding fathers were long time SAIC employees
    Adrian Gautchsi ***

    Advanced optics and holography specialists
    ______________
    Quasi Crystals
    * used for lasers, among other things
    * Also negative refractive index used to project an image

    SPIE creates holographic images
    DEPS - Directed Energy Professionals Society

    Patents (many) found related to Quasi Crystal technology
    Get patent info at 1:17:38

    Cold Fusion~~Steven Jones on Alex Jones
    Thermite + Sulpher = Thermate

    Oxygen = 16
    Sulpher = 32
    Join two oxygen molecules together
    Sulfidation of the steel

    Ken Shoulders -- charge clusters @ 1:22:30
    Dielectrics -- produce nuclear effects

    Orbs @ 1:38:48
    Dust particles interfering with the projection

    Tom Bearden -- Tesla Scalar Wave theory
    1:39:13

    Holographic technology used at Dulce, NM, to stage a Project Bluebeam experiment
    1:48:06

    Andrew Johnson -- what was used was some type of image projection technology.
    Practical Holography -- book by M. Koenig (2001)
    SPIE Hologram

    Implied Consent, they say what they are doing, if you don't say no,
    There is a "Tacit Agreement" 1:56:30

    The suggestion is that they use holograms for planes and Directed Energy a Weapons to cut the plane shaped holes into the buildings.

    Metal turns to jelly -- wasn't hot.
    Magnetic Electro Gravitic Nuclear reaction

    John Hutchinson & Energy
    Electrostatic and magnetic fields, microwaves and RF generators

    MM
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    A couple of days ago, this last video ^^ took me down quite a rabbit hole of linked presentations which I've yet to emerge from.

    I'd like to comment further a little later (there's a lot to say!), but my overriding observation is that the 9/11 research community is a huge, complex dog-eat-dog rat's nest of barbed antagonism, stiletto-backstabbing, mutual denigration and character assassination.

    One or two of the principal names have to be very skilled, planted intel assets — there seems no other explanation — but, assuming so, they've done such a good job that fingers are pointed to all 360º of the compass. And I have no really strong ideas myself who best to trust.

    I'll stick to Ufology, Cryptozoology, the Skinwalker Ranch, Ancient Aliens, Psychic Phenomena, Climate Change, Dave Paulides' Missing 411, and Time Travel. Those questions are FAR simpler. And, dare I say it, the protagonists are actually a lot easier to make judgments about and deal with, too.
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    9/11 Alchemy
    part II notes

    Recalculation of Jesus' birthday...born on 9/11
    @1:58:05

    1987 - Ronald Reagan --->> 9-1-1 Emergency Number Day.

    Arthur C. Clarke:
    "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

    Neither missiles nor airplanes would cause a spike in the earth's magnetic fields.
    Some materials bent outwards, some bent inwards.

    Damage resembles "Hutchinson Effect"
    Bending of metal

    Hole in the road at 6:00 a.m. on 9/11
    Reports of concrete cracking up.

    Metals seem to be accelerated in time.

    LENR-Low Energy Nuclear Reaction
    Luminance without heat.

    Thermal blooming. Cause beam to wander or break apart.
    Turbulence
    @2:13:20

    Electrical problem as well.
    On video footage purple or rainbow colored

    Holograms can be altered by applied magnetic field.
    Could explain why wing disappeared--not visible.

    Power was down. Cell phones weren't working.

    Paper survived while humans and metal did not.

    Levitation effects.
    Comments:
    1) "It picked me up and threw me against the wall."
    2) "It was almost like being picked by a tornado."
    3) "It just picked me up and threw me about a block."

    Fuming--not from fire.

    Continued emissions from WTC debris piles has been well-documented.

    Organic materials were found which indicates this was not a high temperature process.
    **************
    Yes, Bill...there's quite a lot to this presentation. I've watched a lot of 9/11 videos in the past, but I don't recall looking into the companies that produce all of these technologies. They do present a lot of rabbit holes to go down!

    I've seen other things about the Tesla technologies come up lately. One was that paper from the Philadelphia Experiment that you provided the link to. I have not connected all the dots, but I do feel there is a connection, and I'm going to continue researching until I can make the connections. Patents seem important. Flash mentioned patents on another thread and I grabbed some links from there.

    I'm almost done with the notes...probably 3/4 by now. I'll get more later. I hope they are helpful. Maybe they will inspire further research or comments.

    MM
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    It is nice to see that people are still willing to examine events, to get to the truth of the matter.. No mater how much time has passed , and what the theories are.

    But because this particular event, spurred the rest of my later events I have a particular interest in it...

    I don't know who pulled off 9/11, but my opinion was, it absolutely was an inside job.

    I began to look at WHO was renting to upper floors of the towers, and I found THAT to be the most interesting clue.

    (Did anyone see the footage that showed HOLES burned into the ground blocks away, almost as if they hit the wrong thing, when they were "Sighting in" a laser weapon? )

    While most would have you believe it was bankers.. I found it interesting that many COMMUNICATIONS businesses had offices up there, many that never paid rent. Were they trying to do something with those towers that required the entire tower be taken out? Were the towers themselves compromised in such a fashion, that the only solution was to blow them up? Just a thought. Rather than try to find out HOW they did it, I try to figure out WHY.. We may never know for sure.

    Although the obvious reason affect us to this day, more control over us in other ways....
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    I'd like to comment further a little later (there's a lot to say!)
    A first installment.

    1) I'm becoming gradually more and more persuaded of the 'no planes' idea, at least in part. At first, I thought it was ridiculous hokum (though I was very polite to John Lear, a clip from our Camelot interview with whom is featured in the video). But there are so many anomalies — including sincere witnesses who swear they saw a passenger plane hit the Pentagon — that some kind of VERY convincing holographic creation seems compelling.

    As Sir Arthur Conan Doyle had Sherlock Holmes famously say: When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.

    2) Re Flight 93, in 2009 I interviewed 'Elizabeth Nelson', a personal witness to the decision being made to shoot down Flight 93. She was in the room. I knew her well, and I believe her 100%.
    She never saw the plane come down, of course. And given that particular situation (the military personnel involved didn't appear to know about the False Flag setup), they might have been trying to shoot down a radar ghost. (If a hologram can be seen in the visible spectrum, just maybe it's detectable in the radar spectrum, also, though the physics is certainly rather different.)

    3) I was uncomfortable with the video's shoot-down of Steve De'ak. It was Steve De'ak (alias Yankee451) who made the "What Cut the Plane Shaped Hole?" video here:

    Steve De'ak is also interviewed by Sofia Smallstorm, here, and comes over as very sincere — even though in his response to comments on his "What Cut the Plane Shaped Hole?" video, he's often pretty spiky and occasionally stoops, maybe just in frustration, to sharp, ridiculing responses. (This seems to be de rigeur in 9/11 research.)

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    Quote Posted by Michelle Marie (here)

    There was a spike in earths electromagnetic field for every event on 9/11.

    Dry air can act as a sort of capacitor.
    A capacitor that holds an electric charge.

    DoD talking about using the spectrum as a warfare domain.

    By 1962 the Dept. Of Defense began weaponizing lasers as part of a technology that has come to be known as Directed Energy Weapons.

    Oxygen = 16
    Sulpher = 32
    Join two oxygen molecules together
    Sulfidation of the steel
    So these are tidbits from within the video, where they have also "recalculated Jesus's birthday", which is a sign of trouble.

    A "spike" for each event would be saying that earth's magnetic field suddenly increased from milli-Gauss to something that would pull over your refrigerator. So this must mean localized spikes or something.

    The only kind of capacitor is one that holds charge, such as a battery. The earth is an infinite capacitor, the surface and the atmosphere being the opposite sides. Lightning being the usual example of a discharge. If there were not 1,000 lightning strikes every second, all this energy would bleed into space, so, there is constant action of energy conserved in the system.

    Laser was invented in 1962, so, this is to say, they have been considered for weapons since the beginning. There isn't a peaceful 1920s laser that got hijacked.

    I'm pretty sure you can't join two oxygen molecules together and get sulfur. Oxygen does not even exist in its elemental form. All the oxygen we breathe is already two molecules bonded--O2. It does this instantly and naturally. Maybe they mean a process of nuclear fusion, like in the sun or a bomb, which is the only way to...fuse nuclei...would make sulfur.

    I don't agree with the official story, but most of the other ones are also full of fluff.

    On "no planes", I am still stuck between: the group who saw planes; the group observing the same area that insists there were no planes and; the group that wasn't there who insists they are holograms.

    Has anyone ever seen a "projected hologram"?? I have made real ones--they are childishly simple--but they are on film. Although it is simple, it requires an optical table weighing multiple tons, for the least vibration will ruin it. If such a picture could be projected, moved, and animated...it no longer sounds like sensitive holography.

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    Hi Bill,

    You might like this article:
    Taboo Truths: The Missiles of 9/11:
    http://yankee451.com/?p=4147

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    The text below is a draft copy of a message to my friends François Sebesi and François Roby, who will speak at a French conference on 9/11,
    “SEPTEMBER 11, 2001 – DUTY OF MEMORY
    Technical and scientific proof of the appalling imposture."

    But it applies to truthers everywhere.



    Aug. 27, 2018



    Hello, I’m Steve De’ak, sending greetings to my friends, Francois Roby and Francois Sebesi, to attendees of the conference, SEPTEMBER 11, 2001 – DUTY OF MEMORY, and to 9/11 Truth Seekers everywhere.

    It has been seventeen years, but I can remember exactly where I was, and what I was doing, when the World Trade Center was attacked. I’m sure most of us can. For those of you who were too young to remember, 2001 was a time when cell phones didn’t have cameras, when Internet “social media” was a text-only chat room, and when YouTube was nothing more than a gleam in the all-seeing eye of the Intelligence services. Compared to today, in 2001, online resources were limited.

    Shock and Awe

    For me, I was driving to work when I heard the news, and when I arrived, I recall, at first, no one knew what happened. Like a scene from a disaster movie, an explosion had left the North Tower of the World Trade Center with a gaping, grinning hole in its side, belching clouds of dust, paper and smoke. As the networks focused their cameras on the north face of the North Tower, the first witness reports rolled in; some people said it was a bomb, some said it was a small plane, and some people said they saw missiles, but CNN chose to lead with what one of their executives, Sean Murtagh, said, which was that it was a large commercial jet; providing a clue as to how the ruse was accomplished. Using the power of suggestion, they were setting the stage for the assault on our senses, and the challenge to our collective sanity, which was just around the corner, when they broadcast what we thought, was a plane flying through a steel building.

    Shock and Awe is a term used to describe a military strategy of rapidly dominating an enemy by applying overwhelming force. On 9/11 the enemy was We the People, and the overwhelming force was the firepower of the Western propaganda machine. It was then that the Powers that Be declared war on the rest of us, and as is so often the case in war, the initial bombardment was intended to beat us into submission and eliminate any chance of resistance. Under a relentless, days-long barrage of terrifying images, and descriptions, of the horror taking place in lower Manhattan, we were predictable putty in the propagandists’ hands; for a while. Today though, with the benefit of a decade and a half of hindsight, in the archived broadcasts from the morning of September 11th it can be seen how easily we were fooled.

    The networks disregarded the reports from witnesses on the street in favor of the story told by their executives, and because there was only a short 18-minute period between the explosion at the North Tower, and the “live” shots of UA 175, we didn’t have time to question anything. As a testament to the efficacy of propaganda, still to this day, what appears to be the vast majority of humanity is hopelessly spellbound by what amounted to a cheap special-effect, delivered with a straight face by Government and Media figureheads that allegedly have the best interests of We the People in mind, but which were in fact preying on, and manipulating our trusting nature (and indoctrinated faith in authority), into making us believe impossible things.

    Their apparent goal was to force us into choosing between maintaining one’s intellect, by seeing 9/11 for the fraud it is, or following the crowd and fading into what the late Gerard Holmgren called, “Intellectual Senility.” Unfortunately, the world chose the latter, with the fruits of our shared apathy and willful ignorance being a burgeoning global police state, endless war, and a shameful record of looting, murder and torture.

    As time passed and the fog of war lifted, people started to realize something was seriously wrong with the official story, and many turned to the 9/11 Truth Movement for comfort, thinking at least someone was doing something about it. We could see money being raised, petitions being signed, court cases being opened, billboards being displayed, and even Richard Gage on CNN, but if you set aside the rhetoric and examine the results of their activism, all the truth movement has accomplished is to prevent an open discussion of the facts.

    Finding the truth, the actual truth, about what happened that day, is almost impossible by following the work of the truth movement. The leaders will simply ignore evidence that contradicts their arguments and carry on like they never saw it. They then publicly argue among themselves, as if only their hypotheses carry any weight, while pointing a hypocritical finger at each other (and everyone else), for being a spy. I am no expert, but this is exactly what I would expect from false prophets in a bogus peace movement; I suspect this is what controlled opposition looks like.

    By now it should be obvious exposing the truth was never the goal; that their intent all along was to divide and conquer us. Good propaganda always targets emotion, not reason, which reveals why truth seekers are often angered when someone challenges whatever it is we believe happened on 9/11, because we are emotionally attached to it. But the truth is what it is, whether or not it agrees with us, or with what the 9/11 Truth Movement is selling. If the Truth is the goal, it should be a threat to nobody, or as Flannery O’Connor put it, “The truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it emotionally.”

    The reality is I can only be sure about me. I know I’m not on anyone’s payroll, but when I examined the evidence I came to a completely different conclusion than the rest of the truth movement. Nobody should take my word for anything; I urge everyone to scrutinize my research, and conclusions, carefully, and I wish the leaders of the truth movement would say the same. None of us should take at face value any claim without first examining the evidence for ourselves, but we have been too busy raising families, and living our lives, to afford more than a cursory glance at 9/11. Sorting through the dead-end clues, and false leads, requires a time commitment most of us aren’t prepared for. The fact is very few people are able to do any research at all, so we trust other people to bring us the truth; something we have been trained to do since we were old enough to read the news in the daily papers. We aren’t immortal beings with endless time, so more often than not; the way we arrive at ‘the truth’ is to believe whatever suits us.

    This explains why truthers almost never consider the best way to control the opposition is by leading it. It also illustrates why it is so difficult for us to recognize that the leaders of the opposition are more interested in keeping us occupied with red-herrings and infighting, while the war machine marches on, than they are with exposing the lies that started the wars to begin with.

    We’re lying to ourselves. You know whether or not you’re being honest in your investigation, and you know how to verify whether or not the leader you’re following is being honest, too. Since grade school, we were taught the best way to acquire knowledge is by using the scientific method, and it is long past time for the 9/11 Truth Movement to apply it to 9/11, to prove, or disprove, something; anything. Anyone that sincerely wants the truth needs to examine whatever 9/11 hypothesis they’re attached to, and ask themselves if it can withstand such scrutiny. If it can’t then it can’t be the truth.

    Speak out. Expose the lies. Stop the wars.

    Fortunately, the veneer is wearing thin, and the truth is rising. Thanks to the work of people, such as Francois Sebesi and Francois Roby, the scientific method is making a comeback in 9/11 research. I know these two gentlemen through a peace project on which we’ve been collaborating called, “9/11 Crash Test.” If you haven’t heard about us, you can thank the 9/11 Truth Movement for that; we are not under their control, consequently they are forced to ignore us.

    In the spirit of the “Mythbusters” show, the idea is to mount a real section of wing from a 767 on a rocket sled, and collide it at 550+ MPH with steel box columns built to the same specifications of the World Trade Center, at the point of impact. My colleagues and I are attempting to prove, or disprove, a hypothesis, something no other truth group dares to attempt. By using physics, and empirical experimentation, we can prove the jet impacts were faked by the media, but proving what didn’t happen is only part of the project; if we ever do manage to get rocket-sled test center time, we will also attempt to prove what did happen. We will do this by using the photographic evidence we all have at our disposal, to recreate the damage as found.

    A genuine forensic investigation begins with examining the evidence at the crime scene, but this is evidence the truth movement won’t touch. Obviously, if the popular groups are under control, then logically the truth will be found where they fear to tread; the impact holes at all three 9/11 sites. Identify how they were cut, and you will identify the most likely suspects.

    9/11 Crash Test proposes diverting a tiny portion of the millions of dollars the American truth groups accept, to prove once and for all, whether or not what we were shown on television depicted a real event. For a fraction of what AE911T collects every year, we could eliminate the “no planes” contention altogether, and in the process, eliminate a major hurdle in uniting the opposition under one banner. Seizing this opportunity would demonstrate to the world that the disparate 9/11 Truth Groups can work together to apply the scientific method to solve problems, which would instantly change the public impression of the movement from one of tinfoil-hat wearing nutters, to one of serious peace activists, capable of challenging the status quo. Personally, I can think of no greater problem that needs solving than 9/11’s endless War on Terror.

    Our project, 9/11 Crash Test, is just one example of an idea that can stop the impasse, and inertia, of the 9/11 Truth Movement. I’m sure there are other ideas, and this conference is the perfect place to discuss them, but to continue signing the same petitions, and following the same leaders in circles, is madness. Something needs to change.

    Six years ago 9/11 Crash Test released its first video entitled, “Tired of War without End.” In that video I said that if you’re like me, and don’t want to leave your grandchildren a world where they can be sent to war believing impossible lies, then We the People must work together to expose the truth. It is now 2018, and this anniversary marks a grim milestone (that looms like a tombstone), for the 9/11 Truth Movement to consider. Anyone born after September 11, 2001 will be able to enlist in the US Military to fight in the wars, borne of a lie, told before they were born. If this Orwellian nightmare isn’t the kind of world you want to leave to your children, then it is up to each of us to speak the truth. It can be difficult at first, but you’re not alone; 9/11 Crash Test has your back.

    Seventeen years ago no one knew what happened, but those days are over. Today we can prove what happened, and the only thing standing in our way is the 9/11 Truth Movement. Thanks again, to Francois Roby, Francois Sebesi, and to concerned people the world over, for giving the truth (and peace), a chance.

    Very Sincerely,



    Steve De’ak

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