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    Default Re: Flat Earth Idea - Why so popular?

    Seems to me the "flat earth" idea appeals to people's sense of what I can only call over-rebelliousness.

    This over-rebelliousness is an odd phenomena. It distorts and exaggerates the noble concept of "think for yourself" until it ever so slowly becomes the dogmatic dictate "seek your own counsel alone and never listen to anyone else, even wise, well meaning people who wish to help you". This type of individual see's everything as a threat or a deliberate attempt to mislead, and has overcompensated by distrusting everything...even logic n reason on occasion.

    It's a mentality thats rampant in alt circles. These folks tend to confuse healthy skepticism with 24/7 cynicism. Somehow they just never learned to pump the breaks a little.

    It's a little understandable in a way. You get fooled time and again in this business and people get defensive. The walls go up. "Think for yourself" becomes a rallying cry and point of pride for those whose sense of discernment has been wounded. It becomes almost a movement. No one wants to be fooled again, or thought of as naive or unintellgent, so they overcompensate and question everything right down to the color of their socks....and in the process become exactly what theyre trying not to become (especially in the case of the flat earth) - naive and unintelligent.

    If it is a psy-op its a pretty good one, as it uses the defining attitudes of the alt movement against itself. It is by nature non trusting and suspicious...great fuel for the fire. All "they" need to do is strike a match

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    Default Re: Flat Earth Idea - Why so popular?

    I am looking at the RT U'tube page and watched these vids as I have watched
    many before and never questioned , that we could not get into orbit and the Earth
    was spherical , and although I posted a couple vids earlier in the thread and
    encourage debate ............ uhm !!!

    I am open to many theories , but these vids would have to be CGI,which is possible
    and the crew of the space station were really in a modified 'vomit commet ' plane ,
    or some other simulator. Also the whole space world would have to be in on the
    deception , more than if the Moon landings films were hoaxed or not ? This is a
    conspiracy theory a bit to far. Unless it can be proved of course , I just cannot see it though .

    The world is spherical as far as I'm concerned.....

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    Default Re: Flat Earth Idea - Why so popular?

    remember the ice bucket challenge ? , further experiments in the effectiveness of viral marketing

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    Default Re: Flat Earth Idea - Why so popular?

    The Millenium Report weighs in on this issue: The Flat Earthers Are Being Sent Into Every Real Truth Movement To Disrupt And Destroy Them. They figure it's "a full-blown DARPA-conceived, CIA-directed, NSA-monitored, DIA-driven black operation", and we shouldn't waste our time on it.
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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)

    The Millenium Report weighs in on this issue: The Flat Earthers Are Being Sent Into Every Real Truth Movement To Disrupt And Destroy Them. They figure it's "a full-blown DARPA-conceived, CIA-directed, NSA-monitored, DIA-driven black operation", and we shouldn't waste our time on it.


    Yes, exactly. Everyone reading this absolutely must understand what this is all about.

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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    The Millenium Report.... They figure it's "a full-blown DARPA-conceived, CIA-directed, NSA-monitored, DIA-driven black operation", and we shouldn't waste our time on it.
    Then I think we should take this as a victory... it failed VERY fast, take a look at google trends analysis of the search term "flat earth":
    https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=flat%20earth

    that was a very quick correction IMO...
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    FLAT EARTH - THE MOVIE might turn out to be their next move.

    I wonder if they've managed to get enough damaging 'footage' from all this to put together a Pop movie that ridicules the truthers.

    I'm not quite ready to declare victory.
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    Default Re: Flat Earth Idea - Why so popular?

    Corey Goode was asked if the Earth is flat and he said it's spherical. Personally I feel there's some sort of anomalous dynamic in the southern hemisphere. Most the images we've seen from satellites and the ISS are of the northern hemisphere. I think they're actively hiding something.

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    Quote Posted by Inversion (here)
    Corey Goode was asked if the Earth is flat and he said it's spherical. Personally I feel there's some sort of anomalous dynamic in the southern hemisphere. Most the images we've seen from satellites and the ISS are of the northern hemisphere. I think they're actively hiding something.
    It's much simpler than that... it's "northern hemisphere bias"... the easiest way to discount a place is to not mention it... the "media" is all based in capitalism, they will ONLY show the "winners" of capitalism (which is currently the US and EU which dominate the majority of the northern hemisphere). This simple tactic re-enforces the ideas you want and downplays the ideas you don't... it's all about focus, attention... energy.
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    Default Re: Flat Earth Idea - Why so popular?

    Flat, round, curved, square or triangle...we can still live on it. Not sure if there's an urgent issue involved here... other than uncovering more deceit.

    What really concerns me is...

    How do we pretend to know about aliens, their origins, distant planets and star systems…but struggle in understanding humanity and knowing the shape of our own planet? wow

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    Default Re: Flat Earth Idea - Why so popular?

    Quote Posted by Inversion (here)

    Corey Goode was asked if the Earth is flat and he said it's spherical.
    Oh, good! So now we know.




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    Default Re: Flat Earth Idea - Why so popular?

    Let's have some fun, shall we?

    What if the year we are living in is not in fact 2016? Would this surprise you?

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    What if around 12,000 years ago (roughly around the real year 2016), humanity "lost" the global battle and accepted micro-chips in their bodies, falling for the transhumanism agenda of the global elite thinking it was a good idea?

    What if the A.I. that the global elite have been working with (more like working "for") took all humans off of sphere planet Earth onto some kind of artificial dome-like creation, put human bodies in a bunch of pods, and created a similation of the last 12,000 years from the end of Atlantis (Fall of consciousness), all the way to around the year 2016?

    What if this A.I. experiment was allowed to happen by E.T. races, to give humanity one last chance to learn from their mistakes by experiencing a "video game" simulated reality that is an exact "echo" of what transpired on the real, sphere planet Earth, which is currently healing?

    What if all humans are actually plugged into this simulation, and their real bodies are in pods connected to a bunch of wires?

    What if humanity has just went through another cycle of 12,000 years of slavery making the same poor decisions, and it is really around the year 14,016 (in Earth time)?

    What if the reason the global elite have been so relentless and it has been so difficult for people to experience OBEs and connect with Source, Gaia, and Natural Law, is because Natural Law is bent in this simulation and the global elite take advantage of that fact?

    What if most of the global elite have no idea that this is a simulated, flat dome, and are clueless just like the rest of humanity, and only very few truly know?

    What if the "Illuminati" are literally all just programs within this simulation, and the real ones are exploring the galaxy as I type this?

    What if the real sphere planet Earth is currently healing because of humanity's abuse, and humans are kept in this simulated dome while E.T. races are figuring out what to do about the situation?

    What if the global elite are so absolutely out of control, that the A.I. has asked E.T. races to incarnate in and stop this simulation from running through another 12,000 year echoed-cycle because of experimental failure?

    What if every single globe you saw as a child in your classroom, every single image of the planet, every single dream you "thought" you saw Earth, were in fact the biggest, most complicated lie put on by a very select few to keep people locked into this simulation, instead of recognizing it for what it really is (that sphere planet Earth is healing and we are in a simulated version)?

    What if you suspended judgment, and watched a few Flat Earth documentaries (non-religious kind) with an open mind and realize that there is some Truth in it, though the concept does not make any sense unless everything just listed was added to the mix?

    What if the Matrix movies are not just metaphorical, but literal, and such movies like Tron, The Cabin in the Woods, Tomorrowland, The Truman Show, Dark City, Hunger Games, Gamer, and Inception were all created by people who were aware of the artificial simulated reality as just "postulated"?

    Lastly, what if I told you that some people have actually managed to wake up in their pod bodies?

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    The Draco were in control for one cycle of 12,000 years, and the A.I. has had control for an "echoed" version of the same cycle, and humans have been in the dark under slavery for nearly 25,000 years.

    Have some fun trying to figure this one out, because there is more Truth in this than you will allow yourself to remember. I will not argue, but you are free to question everything I just wrote and continue to believe that you, such an "awake and aware" individual, have not also been royally fooled.

    Something to ponder, but does it really matter? Whether this is sphere planet Earth or a flat, simulated version of the real thing...we are STILL in slavery. We still have a lot of work to do to stop these people from continuing their agendas, and spending all of your free time bickering about such subjects could better be dedicated to other things.
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    Quote Posted by Robin (here)
    you are free to question everything I just wrote
    You are also free to make statements and back them up with at least some sort of supporting statements, evidence or anecdotes..

    This is typically considered the best way to communicate. (see how I did that there?)

    what you wrote and someone telling me the earth is flat are pretty equatable as far as reputability goes (based on just this post, maybe you have the idea fleshed out more elsewhere?)
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    Share this here. A few good souls discussing the flat earth possibility's. Some real good points and theories (outside the box). Which you might consider to ponder.
    A good example of why this movement has been so popular. Gods Speed.....
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    Default Re: Flat Earth Idea - Why so popular?

    One thing occurred to me re flat earth (mis)theorizing:
    Think about flat earth and the SIZE of the machinery needed to create the tides.

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    Greetings ...Mel's back on topic with this latest interview. For anyone interested.


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    Default Re: Flat Earth Idea - Why so popular?

    I don't get why a simulation or illusion or hologram or whatever has to be "flat". What does flat even mean I wonder? Are words changing their meanings again? (jokingly)

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    Quote Posted by PRAY PEACE (here)
    I will be meeting up with a trusted colleague on top of the One World Trade Center (well, as far up as the public is allowed anyway...), and will take a photo that should reflect the curvature of the Earth...no need to fly out into space to prove flat Earth crap wrong.
    You could even bring a freind with a Nikon P900 and capture buildings 50 - 100
    miles away. Just be sure to go on a exceptionally clear day.

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    Default Re: Flat Earth Idea - Why so popular?

    What a load of nonsense. Again.

    All you have to do is watch a ship hove into view over the horizon. It only appears at less than 12 miles away. If the planet was flat, then as long as you had a clear line of sight, you could see that ship from the other end of the ocean. Any photos of a ship seen from a few thousand miles away, taken at the seashore? Nope. Few hundred miles? Nope. How about a dinky 20 miles away? Nope.

    Such photos do not exist, historically or otherwise. Now just how hard would it be to go down to the beach, and take a photo to prove the earth is flat? Even Erik Dubay fails to take a photo.

    Erik Dubay is paid to be an idiot. Are we?
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