Newswire: CIA infiltrating Alternative Media Sites

[sigma6]

No doubt I am sure we have some agents here... somewhere... lurking... waiting... moo hoo haahaha! ': o

in any event...
CIA Agents To Troll Alternative Media Sites In Huge Propaganda Program
http://yournewswire.com/cia-agents-h...mments-online/

Gee, and people wonder why someone from "NASA" would come up with an idea for a Flat Earth? It is pretty obvious who the propagators of Anti-Conspiracy Conspiracies are... NASA/CIA... with a nod from the real God Fathers (Vatican)



Exactly what many of us thought from day 1... (because stupid alone couldn't come up with these theories... let alone create a movement out of it...)

And I'll bet they're spending 10x the amount that the Soviet Union ever did at the height of their Big Brother Experiment...

And for the same reason in the investing world... the one source you know NOT to trust is all the main stream media outlets like Wall Street Journal, Barrons, etc.. There appears to be a 'systematic' approach to it... mirror image Satanic backwards...

[DNA]

I agree 100%. It's sad. Wendelle Stevens was sent this in regards to Billy Meier in the mid eighties.
Folks don't realize how much disnfo is purposely placed in the waters of anything even remotely legit.

taken from-

Contact from the Pleiades



**********

LETTER FROM A SECURITY AGENT:



Wendelle C. Stevens

Lt. Col., USAF (Ret)

Care of:

GENESIS 3 Publishing Inc

P.O. Drawer JJ, Munds Park.AZ 89017

Dear Mr Stevens

A friend of mine, Tom Farr, dropped off a copy of MESSAGE FROM THE PLEIADES. I found it very Interesting. Tom had previously given me another book about Billy Meier, which was also interesting.

The following is information you might find interesting. The American Government did what could be called an extensive soft touch investigation of Billy, when he first attracted public attention to himself, to find out if the contact was in fact for real. The Decision was in his favor. It was extensive investigation, because of the unusual features in Billy´s case.

Billy, as an individual, and a citizen of another country, had an American intelligence gathering organization look him over from ass hole to appetite. He passed the inspection rather well, but has not gone off the deep end, as predicted by the personality profile done on him. It of course goes without saying that he had the intelligence gathering community of his own country look him over.

The American investigation was of the light touch vanity (forfenglighet), meaning use no force, make no scars, and leave no traces of the investigation. Which is to say play tourist, pack a camera, and take a lot of pictures, tell a lot of lies, and ask a lot of questions. Host countries(vertslandets-) intelligence systems get pissed(lei), if they catch you screwing off on their turf. So do not accuse us of any break-ins, and that type of thing, because it happened back in the days when Billy was in fact liberal with what he gave away. Your book indicates that he has up-graded his record keeping since the early days.

In the other book on Billy there was a big deal about the films, and having them tested. In one specific incident the film tested was believed to be a copy, and not the original negative as Billy thought. Sorry about that. The way we got copies of Billy´s pictures was by paying off the man who handled the film processing for Billy. The man simply ordered a second set of pictures for us, and a second copy of the negatives, at an attractive profit, and the man often had copies made for himself. In a couple of cases we took the original copy of the negative, for the type of lab checks that you wanted to make.

We also sent some garbage film through to the same processing company by the same store, under Billy´s name, to keep the boys doing the film processing honest. We did establish that there was a little hankey pankey going on at the processing plant, and/or in the mail some place. Someone else was getting off with the first copy of the negatives most of the time. Several times, according to the experts, our copy of the negative would be about the fifth one.

All intelligence communities are well aware that vast volumes of bull **** comes and goes in the UFO contactee game, as part of turf(dekke) but pictures make strong evidence, which is almost impossible to fake. Because pictures are the quickest way to find who in fact is telling the truth, they often get stolen. Or, why screw around with the bull ****, when the proof is in the film. The Intelligence gathering people are also aware of how to intercept mail, and bribe (bestikke) store owners. When the bribe was set up we did not know how agreeable Billy was going to be about passing out samples.

In the book you touched on one of the most important of all things about UFO´s, and may not have realized the true importance, to the history of UFOs, in what you said.

Page 219; "The visitor anticipated............and they immediately associated them with the Anti-Christ, of Christian literature and wanted nothing more to do with the situation."

The problem that Billy had with Karl Veit of Wiesbaden, is the key to understanding most of the American Government and Western Europe Government´s approach to UFO´s. In 1945, when it was first proven that UFO´s were real from space, operated by intelligent being, most of whom where human in form, the American Government did a soft touch check to see what the great unwashed public would say, and how the public would respond to UFO´s, and space people, if the President informed the public over National radio.

The results of the investigation would truly frost a thinking mans´ balls. The public´s response was all bad. 97% of the public took one of two approaches. Shoot first and ask questions later. Or call the UFO´S agents of the devil, the prince of the power of the air, the ant-Christ, and set up an even worse situation, where UFOs would became a real negative religious issue. What was surprising was the response of the Religious leadership, which was by far worse than the general public´s response. It could only be called grim news.

The science community showed no leadership at all, just a super case of stupidity, and prejudice.

As you might guess, the original investigations were by military men, under orders from General Marshal, under the direction of the President. And if you know your military men, finding one who wants to get into a fight with the preachers, over what is, or is not the Anti-Christ, when neither the military man, nor the preacher know a hell of a lot of factual information about either the Ant-Christ, or the UFOs, would be a lot like sending a blind person out to spot UFO´s. Just as soon as the blind man spots the first UFO, the military will get into the fight with the preachers over the Anti-Christ.

To say that the military seriously avoided the potential conflict with the religious community would be an understatement. To say that the military community successfully avoided a fight with the religious community over UFOs would be an accurate observation. To say that the military was real damned sneaky (fordømt lusket) about how they informed the public about UFOs, would also be an accurate observation.

The military mind will draw conclusions that the religious mind will not. The military mind quickly figured out that if the UFO´s wanted to take over the world, they had the speed, science, and fire power to do so. Hence, the military concluded UFO´s were working by other rules. The general nature of the rules the individuals in the UFOs would be working under, could be projected, based on previous contact records, however skimpy the records.

In other words, the military figured it was a safe assumption that the UFOs would not radically change their actions in modern times, but would stick with the casual and miss system of the past.

The military mind drew one conclusion. The single most important thing to do in the situation it was in, namely sitting on some hot, highly controversial information, was to keep the general public from a bad response by controlling the public´s response to UFOs. In other words keep that damned religious mentality out of the issues involved, as long as possible.

But, do not ever say that the military never did anything about informing the public about the existence of UFO´s. That will mean you have not figured out the methods used by the Government to spread the word about UFOs. You might say the military took the Bible´s advice about not to let the left hand know what the right hand is doing.

The Military pulled the very same trick that Moses pulled, when he did not like the attitude of his troops, after crossing the Red Sea. He took the time to grow a new batch troops, who´s response and thinking was more to his liking. And that is what the military did about UFO´s.

The military also found a problem as bad, or worse, than the religious mind. Have you have ever noticed, Scientist are about as bad as the preachers, when it comes to UFO´s? Especially in the old days. What you missed is the little detail that Scientist, of the old pre-UFO school, got their basic concept of the Universe from an insane preacher: A Catholic Pope. That basic concept is the idea that man is alone in the Universe, and the only intelligent life in the universe.

Going into the dark ages all societies leaving records, in any amount, left some kind of UFO record. Those that left verbal histories left verbal records of UFOs. In effect it was known prior to the Dark Ages that man was not alone in the Universe, that other intelligent beings were out there screwing around. Even the damned cave and rock drawings show UFO activity.

The Greeks and the Romans also knew that the world was round. The Greeks had even tried to measure the size of the earth using wells and sun light.

The insane Catholic Pope decided that he was the most important thing in the Universe, and that the Universe revolved around him. The basic idea that the world was flat was imposed upon the world by an insane Pope, which in effect made the earth the Center of the universe.. That Pope also expanded on the powers of the Pope, in effect saying that he was not only at the center of the Universe, he was all that was good, smart, and holy at the center of the Universe.

That pope also pitched the idea that man was alone in the Universe. That of course left the Pope the smartest man in the Universe. When the Science-Religion fight of the early science days started, science in general won out. The one idea that the Scientist took from an insane Pope, which they loved as an idea, and used as there very own idea, was the idea that man is alone in the Universe. The idea that man is alone in the Universe, if valid, would the make Scientist the smartest, and best educated beings in the Universe. The Science community´s response to the coming of UFOs, and the possible drop in status from the smartest thing in the Universe, was somewhat worse than the religious communities response to UFOs. UFOs rather obviously, put the modern scientist in the position of being a backward person in knowledge, on a backward world. And farther insulted the scientist, by not bothering to make any contact with him. Few, if any of the scientist involved gave up their status, as the smartest and best educated beings in the universe, willingly. Most of the older ones died with that idea in their head. The idea, man was the only intelligent life in the Universe.

The existence of UFOs - truly lowers the status of the religious and scientific leaders of the world. They resisted such a lowering in their status, particularly the scientist. And here I should clear something up. Mention the word intelligence gathering community, and most people go into some kind of potty training shock, and think they have gone back to messing their pants, and are about to be caught at it. Doing what is called spying on people is an expensive and time consuming operation, generally involving a lot of people. It is surprising how many people think that they have some kind of secret, that makes them worth spying on. Casual surveillance, or simple information gathering, can be done much cheaper. The total amount of information needed, to make a high degree of accuracy decision, about someone like Billy, is in fact not as much as a person would imagine.

In effect, in the early days, if you showed up at Billy´s place, knowing enough about good manners, to bring as much food as you eat, wash as many dishes as you get dirty, and just help around the house, or yard a bit. It was possible to get all the UFO information desired from Billy, and be treated as a respected guest.

Looking into Billy with a professional eye will quickly show that there are a couple of things, which are not "totally normal" for this type of contact. The screw ball hours, and the many changes in location, make it somewhat different from most contacts, which generally proceed on a casual, but regular bases, with some consideration for the contactee. Billy probably holds the record for more bad weather contacts than anyone else. His case has some screwball features, but it had some very good pictures.

In a shared UFO information pool with other Countries, including India, it was noticed that Billy got his contacts whenever a woman, the Indians were watching, was missing. It was speculated that Billy´s female contact could have been one of two women that the India authorities were watching. One was a tall dark haired woman with a very fair completion who, according to what the Indians could find out had been working an area for about 200 years. The other woman was a short, some what dumpy blond, with kind of a flat face. Every time the dumpy blond left India, Billy had a contact. Because the Indian surveillance was of the soft touch type, and far from complete, nothing was ever established. But, for a period of about 2 to 3 years there was a one-to-one relationship between the blond leaving India and Billy having a contact.

And there is something else you might figure out, or work on. It is Billy stumbling onto Military men looking at his contact sites. For all their science, the clowns in the UFO do not always work out every thing to perfection.

As a military officer you were exposed to a few classes in physics. As the book says about the rocks and the gold, the physics are the same, this world, or some other. That means that what is known, about physics here, will also apply up there.

The UFO is has a power source, which is obviously related to gravity, and electro magnetic properties of physics. That is all packed into a small space and effects the world around it. Add to that some cloaking device, and a few stray things, and you have a ship, which will give off a few things in the line of radiation. If the dogs can spot the UFOs, then use dogs, which we did around some military and science bases In the early days. If the TV flutters when one comes by, start from there for making a detection device.

It logically follows that about the time that the Governments got into the business of knowing about UFOs, they also got into learning how to detect the things, when they flew by. And it was a dog, who´s action told us that flying saucer had clocking devices. It did not turn out to be all that hard to make a detection device. The Swiss Government has such devices and obviously uses them.

The last time I had anything to do with such devices, which was a long time ago, and the devices where physically very large because their radios had vacuum tubes, they could be rigged to do several different things, and the American Government was screwing with a model that would give the general direction the UFO was traveling. By now they could be the size of a pack of smokes, and give direction along with the make and model of the UFO. me In the late 50s we could define between about four types of UFOs based on how they effected our devices. If I remember some of the information coming out of Billy´s area, the DALs would normally send out a couple of other ships to scout the area, some time several days in advance, before the contact ship showed up. At that time the devices the Swiss had, could tell the difference between the two types of ships normally used. It could also tell the difference between several of the small ball-shaped probes that might be sent out.

I know it to be a fact that the Swiss Government has contact with Space people. But, like all such contacts, the restriction on who knows about it comes from space. The Swiss in fact probably have the best contact of any country in the world. But, that is speculation on my part.

And here I might should add something. Within the Governments of the world, how many I do not know, but based on the patterns, probably most of the reasonable governments, there has been contact from space. But, within any government there will exist two possible sets of information. Those who study UFOs, from the ground looking up, and trade some types of information some times, and those who are in the direct contact position. The two are not necessarily the same person, or department.

I know it to be a fact, having talked to a man who made the trip with him, that Ike had dinner on a space ship. I also know that the Queen of England has been on a space ship, once for medical treatment.

You mentioned something in passing that was interesting. It was your being "spied" on. I have no idea as to who is doing what to whom in your case. But, I do know that there was once a proposal put out to step on UFO investigators, and contactees a little bit, to keep the field from expanding too much, so the real contacts would not be lost in the pure bull ****.

As some one who has been in government, you can probably spot the conflicting, and over lapping authorities, that tend to keep showing up in cases like your self. You never out right ask the question, "what the hell´s Naval Intelligence doing in UFOs, but if you do, they were the "initiating authority" in the solution to the problem of the old FOO Fighters of WW2, and the boys who proved UFOs were from space. Once an Intelligence gathering community gets the initiating authority status in a field, especially if the job is dumped onto them, they are damned hard to pry out of that field.

Within the structure of the American UFO community there are a lot of stories running around. If you ever have the time and the chance, or inclination, you might look up the one piece of semi-hard evidence about a crashed UFO. It is the Brownsville, Texas saucer, which was a very old case. Dating back to right after WW2.

That ship came wobbling by Army Air Force base going about ten miles an hour. They first picked it up on radar, when It was about 40 miles away, which gave them vast amounts of time. Then with field glass as It approached, and finally as a visual. They had enough time that they were able to get a chase plane up in the air to follow the saucer to where it crashed, about ten miles deep in Mexico. Their first action was to get a parachute rigger into a plane, and jump him out over the crash site with a stencil and a can of Red Paint, to mark USAAF on the side of the saucer, so we could claim it was ours - in case the Mexicans showed up.

That ship was dragged back to the US by a cat. It left one hell of a skid trail. From the ground the skid trail can not be seen, because the government paid some Indians $5,000.0O0 to replant the ground. and hid all traces of that drag trail. But it can be seen from the air.

If seen from the air, it will be a very straight line that is almost due North and South. At the South end of the skid trail, there is an East-West gully, and just South of the gully is a small ridge, or very little hill. The small hill has a north south ridge on it. The saucer came to rest on the East side of that ridge up against the slope of the hill, or at the base of the very little hill.

Because the drag trail could be seen from the air the Indians were hired to make other trails on the ground, as a confusion factor. The true drag trail is the only straight one in the group.

This letter is long enough. Lots of luck with what you are doing.

Respectfully .....................(name deleted)

[Innocent Warrior]

[uzn]

Agreed, and dont forget that russia and israel also have troll armies.
By the way, a media outlet (Newspaper, TV, Comics, games, you name it) that is controlled by a intelligence agency is called a front. We always calculated the expenses of the company with the earnings of the company (if one has access to this data). If the company spends way more than it earns without shutting down, you know there is an external influence (remote control). Media outlets are really important to controll the masses.

[Praxis]

You may or may not have heard of this, but the airforce got this thing called persona management software. It basically allows a person to operate avatars on many sites with legit backgrounds and presence as to seem like real people. I took a picture of the req which is good because they took it down. But, check it out

http://imgur.com/GCOvsUj

Sorry I dont know how to make the picture display here in the post. If a mod can do that. I apparently cant figure it out

Edit from Bill — done.

[uzn]

9ofClubs, when you type there is a "go advanced" Button at 4 o´clock. When u pressed it there will be a "attachments" Button in the toprow of your buttons. There you can upload your own images. By pressing the "attachments" button again it will insert your latest uploaded pic in your text.

[Limor Wolf]

There is a lot more than people sitting in a big CIA office and crusing joyfully to interfere with alternative websites, if there are, they are bidding someone else's desires. There is an aspect of interdimensional interference in our world, that is worth recognizing. The human aspect is but one of those and is the more arranged conventional front, all else at this time is it's servant.

Blessings ~

Limor

[seah]

No doubt I am sure we have some agents here... somewhere... lurking... waiting... moo hoo haahaha! ': o

you think?

it's also a fine place to find story line ideas for the entertainment industry, and for hackers to have a bit of fun.

[Cidersomerset]

I thought the Internet was developed and set up by the mil and intel
service and presumed they were infiltrating it from the start and its
part of the 'five eyes' and greater surveillance systems in some ways
and I took it for granted they have been touring the sites employing
trolls and 'sleepers' to listen , infiltrate and sometimes lead and
distract us if they can.....

They have done it in every other walk of life and the media and
there are many examples . The crop circles are a good example
and Rich D Hall did a good documentary about that....



Pt 5 & 6 exposes John Lundburgs ( team Satan ) possible links with MI5 with some
interresting insights to his site etc....

Crop Circles: The Hidden Truth - Part 5

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=D9cGyMSLfRM

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...is-one-created

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http://www.internetsociety.org/inter...ternet#Origins

[Cidersomerset]

I'm listening to the Richard Dolan interview on Fade to Black and he
is summing up the disinfo infiltration in the UFO comunity very well and
it applies to many other fields as well.....

They discuss this around the 106 mins onwards for about 20 mins , but they
ref it through out the interview which finished on the 2hrs 28m mark...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=xNLnlUkptqA

Published on 1 Apr 2016
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Nick Pope fits the description of a classic infiltration mole imo.....



MOD Spokesman and UFO Skeptic Nick Pope on Jimmy Church Fade To Black..4/3/15

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-Black..4-3-15

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RICHPLANET TV - The Sheffield UFO Incident - 17/03/2015 // UFO Gatekeeper /debunkers Dr. David Clarke & Andy Roberts...

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...e-Andy-Roberts...

[sigma6]

Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
I thought the Internet was developed and set up by the mil and intel
service and presumed they were infiltrating it from the start and its
part of the 'five eyes' and greater surveillance systems in some ways
and I took it for granted they have been touring the sites employing
trolls and 'sleepers' to listen , infiltrate and sometimes lead and
distract us if they can.....

They have done it in every other walk of life and the media and
there are many examples . The crop circles are a good example
and Rich D Hall did a good documentary about that....



Pt 5 & 6 exposes John Lundburgs ( team Satan ) possible links with MI5 with some
interresting insights to his site etc....

Crop Circles: The Hidden Truth - Part 5

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=D9cGyMSLfRM

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...is-one-created

===================================================




http://www.internetsociety.org/inter...ternet#Origins

True Cider... but I think the sheer vastness of the Internet is bigger then they thought it would grow into... some solace in that (not much... )

No doubt I am sure we have some agents here... somewhere... lurking... waiting... moo hoo haahaha! ': o

...especially given some of the "Names and Avatars I have seen... LoL... almost begging you to call them out... (not mentioning any names... hehe... )

[ZooLife]

It is wise to know there are entities on the 'net that have less then altruistic intentions and what tools of the trade they employ.

I used to think people posted comments and ideas of their own accord without an underlying agenda. I share my thoughts and ideas but I do not expect people to adopt them. But now, with Avalon threads regarding PSYOPs, mind control etc. I know know there are professional bloggers who DO have a nefarious agenda, people paid to blog. What a gig that must be.

Conversely, here is something else to consider:

If a government cannot be omnipresent, wouldn't articles like this be a great PSYOP as well?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=jh9q3nqVnlM

PSYOPs run deep on the 'net me thinketh.

[DNA]

Posted by Limor Wolf (here)
There is a lot more than people sitting in a big CIA office and crusing joyfully to interfere with alternative websites, if there are, they are bidding someone else's desires. There is an aspect of interdimensional interference in our world, that is worth recognizing. The human aspect is but one of those and is the more arranged conventional front, all else at this time is it's servant.

Blessings ~

Limor

I've worked with this kid for about a year now. He reads everything I throw his way including Project Avalon stuff. I rarely divulge Avalon type topics to folks because it tends to not go well. Interestingly enough my interactions with this kid have helped reveal why things tend to go so bad.

Today at work I was talking to the kid about Carlos Castaneda. We were talking about the inorganic beings and how they have tricked us (mankind) into giving away our energy through this amazingly successful tactic where we are constantly being offended by one another. I was in the midst of making a correlation with archons from the Gnostic teachings when I felt a senastion at the back of my head, and I could tell the kid was feeling a tangible discomfort, he had disengaged from our conversation and was looking for an escape.

I resisted the urge to try and push on through with the information, I stopped and I said "oh crap the eye of Sauron is looking for us".
The kid knowingly agreed and we halted our conversation and switched gears and started talking football.

The weird part is, that this is like the tenth time this has happened to us. He feels and knows what I'm talking about. He agrees 100% and he effortlessly switches gears with me so we may in fact cause the attention we are getting from the eye of sauron to scale back.


I state all of this Limor because I think I know what you are talking about. There is indeed something else out there.


Have a good one.


[/QUOTE]

[Curious77]

Operation Mockingbird was being drafted by Cord Meyer 2 years before the end of WWII,
ultimately run out of CIA --

but basically what happened in our "defeat" of Germany was that we moved the Gestapo to the US.
CIA = Gestapo.

Then Project Paperclip brought in ex-Nazis -- in total with families more than 64,000.
They were used to found the CIA, funneled into the FBI and other government
agencies.

[Curious77]

Here's our problem with reversing corporate-fascism --
TPTB now control the Military --

And this was long feared -- that the military would be used politically.

Some may remember General Edwin Walker -- the guy whose home
Lee Harvey Oswald allegedly shot into?

In fact, General Walker was a nut case/psycho right-winger who was
fired from the military by JFK for distributing Nazi and KKK material
to soldiers under his command.

Later, Walker ran the racist riot at Ole Miss and was arrested there.
The Judge recommended psychiatric care.