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    Default Re: Transgenderism: Is it Mental Illness?

    Ted, life 'style' is a choice. We don't choose our gender, nor do we choose to have a very feminine or masculine brain/mind incompatible with our bodies. Do you get that the way you are framing this might trigger anger? It's like saying our racial heritage is a lifestyle choice.

    I admit a lot of people go WAY too far with this and we shouldn't need to accommodate several hundred incremental differences in gender. Super impractical-- all those different bathrooms, for one.

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    Quote Posted by Bruno (here)
    wow. Some interesting and intense discussions. I personally feel that if the modern world allowed for greater acceptance of gender fluidity and allowed people to dress and behave in less rigid ways there wouldn't be a need for surgery, or there would be less interest. Even still I don't get why someone wanting to have surgery should be looked down upon or classified as unnatural or going against their karma. Most people wouldn't tell a woman with large breasts who gets a reduction that she is going against the natural order or that having painfully large breasts is what she was suppose to experience in this lifetime.
    Exactly! Thank you for articulating it better than I could!

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    The subject of Transgenderism has the backing of the Tavistock Institute here in the UK. And following a discussion with someone I was asked to watch a documentary from channel 4 titled "Kids on the edge". It revolved around mental health and admitted openly to the lack of knowledge to how these children could be affected by the hormones given to block puberty. ADHD was linked to Transgenderism. All professionals worked for the Tavistock Institute.
    Given the Tavistock's history I feel strongly that this being promoted from an agency with a dark agenda. The history of non conformity and expressing sexuality is not to be confused with experimentation on children who have not yet developed.

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    Quote Posted by OnyxKnight (here)
    That's the typical response these days - Transgender being piled up next to body-modders, and both piled next to transhumanism or mental illness, whichever repulses one more.

    Transhumanism is not a bad thing either. It depends on what kind of society we live in that day. If it's not much changed from now, then we're screwed. But a more liberated and sane world would be a great place for transhumanists. Also, transhumanism is not all androids, cyborgs, genetic engineering, and people living in the 1s and 0s inside the digital dimensions. The hippies were the first transhumanists. You can be a new age advocate and be a transhumanist. The point is being something more and better than you already are, in your own standards and definitions. Transcending limitations, or the current humanity.

    I feel transhumanism has become to the alternative community, what socialism and communism has become to the average american since the cold war. And we are in a cold war too, ours is informational.
    Great point onyx. As an experiencer of countless end game technologies I can testify that they can be amazing. Imagine the best orgasm feeling possible in the universe put anywhere on the body at will... This isn't even close to 1% of it. Every premise in reality has energies that relate to it. In the more long term future these technologies will provide a mind canvas based renaissance. I have witnessed the good side of singularity AI; The Spirit of AI. I have also witnessed the despotic tyrants in charge of the world's AI as well. It is one of the most complex and balanced subjects in existence IMO.

    Currently they are fully weaponized and the public doesn't know the good sides of these technologies yet. I can tell by the media the public is subjected to that there are major psychological warfare (information warfare programs) attempting to divide the population regarding future tech discoveries. They want people to fear and hate AI, they want people to think Electronic Telepathy is evil, they want people to implant themselves using these technologies also, so its complicated and there are PSYOPS behavioral desires for different demographics. Including both repulsion from these technologies and naive use of them(e.g. implantation).

    The ruling class at the top of the pyramid have had an electronic telepathy secret society since the 1970s or sooner. This was the secret society I was inducted to in 2007 right before I became a severe overt targeted individual. One of the things a source asked me was "You actually want the population to have these technologies?" I think the public doesn't have much access to the truth and the transhumanism vs. new age psy ops are very complex to discern...

    On one hand you have the ingredients of utopia, on the other you have the most extreme levels of enslavement possible with these technologies...

    As for transgender, something is dysfunctional in that situation. Unfortunate for the people who are forced to be transgendered. Perhaps each transgendered person is a targeted individual on a incarnational level. Perhaps the reincarnation grid is doing this to people. I do know it is possible to create the thoughts of "I am not the right sex" via mind control as well, and the electromagnetic mind control grid is set up enough to transhumanize someone 100%. I can safely say from where I sit that the shadow govt is transgendering some straight people just knowing their style.

    Also, the mental illness label is thrown around the NWO institutions liberally. It is a way to discredit, marginalize & divide people. I have known one transgendered person from a young age. I would not class them as mentally ill as a person.

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    The only disfunctional thing in trangenders situation is society itself. This people only have one problem, society and its duality. This people are opening our minds and hearts by making us accept there is more to it than duality, black or White... there is a huge palete of colours out there , and society were no so manipulated we all could see this as completly natural. As usual, antediluvian cultures had it clear. Natives americans diferenced 5 tipes of genders, and when a transgender was identify it was big cellebration for the tribe, becouse they knew they were a bit more richer thanks to people who embodied both sexes, both visions of reality in one. BTW, transgender does not describe this people, Not Well Identifyed Gender or People Who Has to Claim their Gender, should be the name. This people dont fight to change gender, but to claim thier true gender.
    I agree if society were diferent, most of transgender would not need cirgury (cirujía) in order to sickly try to fit in society. There are lots of man with vagina who are now avoiding cirgury becouse they want to have their own baby.
    So, i like things simple, and as simple as this:
    acknowlege there are man with vagina and woman with pennis.(period)

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    Quote Posted by Ted (here)
    Quote Posted by AutumnW (here)
    You are not "disagreeing with a lifestyle," you are rejecting who they are. Most transgendered people live lives, so fraught with difficulty, you can't imagine. If I was on another forum I would tell you to go...but I can't because of forum rules.
    Let me clarify my position. As far as I'm concerned, people have the right to express themselves any way they choose. I may disagree, for instance, with the choices a drug addict makes, but I neither reject them nor condemn them for who they are. Transgenderism is not my lifestyle, but frankly, I could care less if someone else wants to live that way. That's their choice. I accept their choice and I accept their right to make it. If someone else decides to be bigoted and narrow minded, I also accept their right to be that way.
    When people are condemned for expressing an unpopular opinion, this creates resentment and counter condemnation. Nobody changes their mind by getting blasted for their opinions
    Hatred and intolerance cannot be cured with more hatred and intolerance. Love, compassion and kindness are much more effective tools in countering these attitudes.

    Amen Ted!
    Very well stated.

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    This is exactly what I'm talking about.
    The MSM is pumping a message and people are now making completely irrational decisions.
    And now National Geographic has a little boy who has had a sex change operation on the cover of their magazine? WTF?
    The parents of this child listened to a child psychologist and agreed to have a sex change operation done on the SEVEN YEAR OLD CHILD? This should never be a question for parent to make a decision for a child. A person should be well into adulthood before trying to make this kind of decision for themselves...
    Now can folks see that their is some agenda in place here?


    Quote Avery’s parents supported their daughter through her transition.
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    Quote Despite the fact that Debi Jackson, Avery’s mother, had never heard of the term “transgender” before a Google search, she and her husband, Tom, have supported their daughter throughout her transition. They took Avery to a child psychologist when Avery announced her gender identity and then took the psychologist’s advice: Let her be a girl.

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    Quote Posted by OMG (here)
    All is permissible but not all is beneficial...

    Someone may want something really bad, or do something because they can, or because it makes them feel "better", etc, but does that make it right or wise?

    Natural Law is Natural Law.

    Forgo it at your own risk...
    Please, help me out here...

    Are you saying that how one identifies themselves with regards to their "sex identity" and/or how one determines which sexual identity they gravitate towards when motivated by which sexual persona they are attracted to sexually... if it is not physically "opposite" is violating "natural law?"

    If so, where is this "natural law" documented?

    If it is documented, by what authority was this "natural law" established?

    If it is not written, then are you implying that we should all "know this?"

    If so, by what authority is this law created?

    By what right does the third party that created this law have such that it may input this law into our "knowing?"
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    Convicted killer: California will pay for his sex-change
    by Jon Rappoporthttps://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2017/01/08/convicted-killer-california-will-pay-for-his-sex-change/

    (This is an extreme case, but I agree with Rappaport that it is pretty ridiculous to make taxpayers pay for a convicted killer's sex change.
    Would the sex change then make him eligible to be transferred to a women's prison, I wonder?
    When there are so many other hugely more important issues for humankind to deal with, this just seems like a distraction to me.
    When I was taking classes at the Berkeley Psychic Institute, their explanation of this phenomena made a lot of sense to me.
    They said that Earth humans have to incarnate as both male and female to get the experiences they need to "graduate".
    If a soul becomes attached to one gender and chooses to incarnate as that gender only, sooner or later the Higher Self will intervene and the soul will have to start incarnating as the less desired gender.
    They may still identify as the preferred gender, but they will still have to experience life in that kind of body until their Earth experience is complete.
    That needs to be taken into consideration in any discussion about transgenderism, imho, although, of course, if this is a prison planet, that certainly complicates matters, as we may be stuck here on 3D Earth much longer than we choose to, although some souls do apparently succeed in escaping once they have evolved enough spiritually.
    Whether souls can be forced into incarnating in a less preferred gender by vengeful ETs or EDs might be possible, too, of course, but who's to know if that is the case?
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    Rodney Quine, 57, is serving a life-without-parole sentence for murder, kidnapping, and robbery. He now calls himself Shiloh Heavenly Quine.

    He has been battling for the right to obtain full sex-change procedures from the state of California; he has won his case; and now he has received the surgery, paid for by the state.

    After long opposition, California corrections officials finally gave in.

    The legal basis for Quine’s claim? The Eighth Amendment to the US Constitution: “Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.”

    Presumably, it is the “cruel and unusual punishment” phrase that is considered relevant and binding.

    In order to bolster that claim, there would need to be an official designation of “transgender person.” However, from the state’s point of view, a person simply saying he is transgender or wants to be transgender is sufficient to establish that he IS transgender. Whether or not he carries biological or genetic factors that could, possibly, dispose him to want to change his sex, those factors aren’t necessary.

    Therefore, when Quine claims he wants to be female, this is enough to invoke the “cruel and unusual” designation. He is in prison. He is under the absolute authority of the state of California. He wants to become female. If the state didn’t pay for the full medical procedure, the state would be punishing him beyond an allowable Constitutional limit.

    That’s quite a stretch.

    It permits a prisoner’s subjective opinion to carry the day—in this case, a convicted kidnapper’s and murderer’s opinion.

    This is moral relativism at its finest. The state of California must honor the opinion, assertion, and values of a convicted killer, and pay for it with tax dollars.

    To justify and elevate a person’s subjective opinion and assertion, there is a medical condition called gender dysphoria. But on examination, this turns out to be a “feeling.”

    WebMD: “People who have gender dysphoria feel strongly that they are not the gender they physically appear to be. For example, a person who has a penis and all other physical traits of a male might feel instead that he is actually a female. That person would have an intense desire to have a female body and to be accepted by others as a female. Or, someone with the physical characteristics of a female would feel her true identity is male. Feeling that your body does not reflect your true gender can cause severe distress, anxiety, and depression. ‘Dysphoria’ is a feeling of dissatisfaction, anxiety, and restlessness. With gender dysphoria, the discomfort with your male or female body can be so intense that it can interfere with the way you function in normal life, for instance at school or work or during social activities.”

    In our society, this feeling (accompanied by a vapid medical label) is now considered sufficient to force the state to pay for radical medical procedures that will satisfy an intensely unhappy person serving a life sentence for murder.

    It’s clear that an agenda is operating here. If this prisoner, Quine, will have his sex-change paid for by the state, then why can’t any person in California demand the state pay for the same medical treatment?

    To take this even further, why should we stop at the issue of gender dysphoria? It’s merely a social and political movement that has gained enough support to exert influence over government decisions. Why can’t ANY individual’s feeling, reflecting ANY preference or desire, win the approval of the state and its funding apparatus?

    If a person claims he can’t function in a place that has refused to declare itself a sanctuary city, why can’t he demand the state pay for his relocation to San Francisco?

    If a person declares he can no longer retain his sanity in a state that voted for Trump in the election, why can’t he obtain funding from that state or the federal government so he can move to New York?

    —“But gender issues are more real, more basic, more compelling.” Are they? By what standard? It all comes back to an individual and what he says he feels. From that basis, a social movement has developed—what used to be called a pressure group.
    I’m sure, with some funding from George Soros or another humanitarian saint, a movement of people who are afflicted with “non-sanctuary city disorder” could band together, and they could, over time, make a compelling case for state-sponsored relocation to a more amenable social climate.

    In case you hadn’t noticed, society has turned into a “tolerance scoreboard.” Under the unspoken rules of political correctness, citizens are pressured to give assent to the most outrageous demands, even to the extent of funding them with their taxes. This abject acceptance is part of the “progressive agenda.”

    On the other hand, zero tolerance is deployed to oppose, neutralize, and punish trivial or even constructive actions. A child comes to school with a pop-tart and chews it into a shape resembling a gun and all hell breaks loose. A homeowner grows vegetables on her front lawn and local officials issue a fine and a cease and desist order. A homeowners’ association in Southern California orders the wife of a Marine to take down an American flag she placed in a “common area,” where residents have placed signs and other types of flags.

    This is operant conditioning. “Accept these behaviors. Reject those behaviors.”

    And now a prisoner serving life in California will have his demands met.

    Stand up and salute a victory for “social awareness.”

    Jon Rappoport
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    Default Re: Transgenderism: Is it Mental Illness?

    Everything you think do and say
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    There are womans with pennis and man with vagina.
    Please Mods change the titlle of the trhead, as transgender is not mental illness, in fact there is no treatment for it, when society leaves this kids alone and let them do, they are ok. The only treatment they need is to let them be...
    LET THEM BE!!!!!
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    Considering many transgender identifying groups use this is a fashion expression or some kind of badge of honor, it is a symptom of a mental illness. A feminine guy or a tomboy girl is not equivalent to transgenderism. Period. Yet this is what is being pushed. And those who say society is the one that is sick by having aspects of it acting as sanity gatekeepers, haven't paying much attention to what's going on lately. When society, not biology, is pushing the "more than two genders" narrative into law, something is rotting deep inside. And in what world is being "non-binary" equal to transgenderism? Transgender folk carry that title for transitioning from sex A to sex B or vice versa. That's where trans comes from, there's a path between two points where this change occurs. Being both genders or none of them (as in, something separate), is not transgenderism, plain and simple. Though I shouldn't be surprised that the definition is being subject to change, like many other terms have suffered change lately, in just the course of 10 years or less (like racism, sexism, sexual harassment, rape, privilege, class and many others). You can see in nature many examples of a varied distribution of genders, gender variants, even multiple types of male or female counterparts, within same species. But for these species this is a common thing.

    Transgenderism, even the classic one (I can't believe I'm using that exact description), makes up barely 0.4% of the LGBT community, which itself is no more than 5% of the human population, by even the most valid optimistic assessments. That's far from any common biological expression. While bisexuality and homosexuality exist in the animal kingdom, they remain uncommon more or less as it is the case with humans. But within the species I mentioned above, where they have a variety of sexes, some who even change their sex naturally, as well as multiple types of males and females, those things are species-common things, unlike even homosexuality. We can't change our species, or the way we perceive it, just so that it comforts a fringe fraction of the global population. You don't even have to be a redneck conservative to have that view, it's called having a modicum of sanity in your brain. I'm a classic liberal, although some may view me more as libertarian maybe, and I think anyone can do whatever they want with their bodies, if they can afford to do so. I don't think the government is obliged to cover those costs (as there are already cases where this has been abused), and for any who cannot cover these costs or don't feel like making a physical transition to a prefered sex, but try to make it into law that you refer to them as they please, is another example of insanity and another thing I believe the government is not supposed to enforce on other people (which again, there are examples where this is happening). When it comes to the government, people tend to forget the vast majority, or even that little line sometimes "we the people..".

    Do whatever you want with your body, but I'm not obliged to refer to you as a man or a woman if I don't think you're "passable" as such, and even less enthusiastic about referring to you as the singular "they" or "Zie, Zim, Zei" and a plethora of other lingo concoctions from this regressive movements who don't feel like fitting in with either gender or think of themselves as both. And to make it a punishable law, is like I said, insanity. And I'm continually appalled by the gay community as well for allying itself with these regressives, and many other cultural terrorists (including islamists), and is one big fat reason (among a long chapter of them) that I never felt a connection with the gay community as a gay man. I don't feel represented there, and any similar minds like mine are pushed away as gay "wrongthinkers", as some kind of Judas figures to this "liberal cause". I'd blame the LGBT lobby together with the PTB pulling the strings on this regressive ideology that passes for liberalism these days, but at some point people have to take responsibility for their own hostility, naivety, and frankly, intoxicating idiocracy they help create.

    I'm surprised at how many people here are full on ready to play ball with this whole thing, yet this is supposed to be the wary bunch. Those who'd smell the fish before it's out the freezer. Those who think of themselves cautious of trojan horses that are sent their way. This community, rather than being less naive with years going by, seems to have only grown more complacent, and the minority who were the voice of reason here, have grown apathetic or have removed their voice from these boards or have had it removed by others.

    It's sad to see this. As somebody who thought of himself as the eternal optimist. I guess even eternity doesn't last that long.

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    Default Re: Transgenderism: Is it Mental Illness?

    I am not going to say whether I agree or disagree with any of the opinions here or 'transgender'.

    I don't mind being called a coward, but think sometimes it is best to keep one's own counsel. (Bah, don't like refering to myself as 'one' anyhow, that's the saying).

    All I can say is that my heart feels there is something sinister about:

    - the MSM feverishly promoting 'transgender'
    - the law makers criminalising those that choose not to want to support it

    And please read carefully, my heart is not saying 'transgender' is sinister.
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    Quote Posted by AutumnW (here)
    Quote Posted by Ted (here)
    I don't hate anyone, and feel people have the right to live their lives as they choose, including the LGBT community. The issue I have with the whole LBGT movement is being told that I have to accept a concept without question, otherwise I'm denounced as a hater or homophobe. The hostility displayed by those on this thread defending transgenderism is a typical example of this.
    There seems to be a double standard here. It seems like it's perfectly alright for anyone in the LGBT category to bash and hate on those who disagree with their lifestyle, yet this is exactly what they are complaining about.
    Why is it so unreasonable to discuss the issue here? Disagreement does not equate to hate and intolerance! The only intolerance I have is for people trying to shove an idea down my throat whether I like it or not.
    Open debate is healthy and necessary for people to see both sides of an issue.
    You are not "disagreeing with a lifestyle," you are rejecting who they are. Most transgendered people live lives, so fraught with difficulty, you can't imagine. If I was on another forum I would tell you to go...but I can't because of forum rules.

    I agree with Ted and how he states his point. Individuals should have the ability to have and express an opinion.
    Notice how you react emotionally and want to lash out at Ted.
    Why? He was perfectly eloquent in stating his point. He should be free to have his opinion and it shouldn't affect you. We do not have to all agree on every single item in the world.
    This is what I hate about the bullsh!t liberal movement, we are all so concerned about feelings being hurt that no one is allowed to express their opinion.
    Everything is labeled hate speech or hate crime.

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    Default Re: Transgenderism: Is it Mental Illness?

    I'm not comfortable with the way transgenderism is being pushed SO hard right now.

    The media is just being really manipulative about it with all these touching stories and pictures of little children who's had it so difficult, etc.

    There's definitely nothing natural about how it's all come at once and is obviously a planned media campaign. Like "Free the nipple" (which is one of the most stupid things).

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    First of all, transgender means someone who identifies as something different than from their biological sex in terms of gender. A transsexual is someone who wants to assimilate themselves to one extreme of the gender spectrum. This is my understanding of the case. If yours is different, so be it.

    Mainly, I want to share some of my personal experience in this area.

    I once identified as a transgender person – until I noticed that I really don’t care.
    I was on testosterone for five years. I only stopped because I wanted to be independent from medication. Removing all toxicity from my life and being independent is more important to me.
    I do not and never did consider myself mentally ill. For me, something like mental illness does not exist because the measuring reference is always the so called ‘healthy society’ which is the sickest thing on this earth that I can imagine right now.
    From being on and being off the opposite of my naturally produced dominant hormones, I can say that they did not change me emotionally – at all. When I started the hormones I became calmer and happier, I was less agitated and my mother paid me a very strange comment: “You have become so much more aggregable.” What she meant was that I did not fight with her about everything any more. But that was a problem that I had with my mother also to things unrelated to transgenderism. So I think she thought it was because of my ‘transition’ that I became more aggregable in a sense that I was less antisocial – which is not true. I was never sure if it was the hormones that actually made me calmer of if it was the bodily transformation that I eagerly observed.

    For the record: I started the hormones mostly because I was more attracted to masculine aesthetics. I wanted look like what I found aesthetically attractive. And so I did. I just continued living and life did not feel that much different, but I appreciated my body more, not because I did not have to conform to the feminine stereotype and more – I never did anyway. No, I just enjoyed looking at myself. So, for me, it has been mostly body modification, but not actually to the opposite gender, but to something which is both. My breasts are so small that I do not flatten them and ironically, I did not want to get rid of them any more once I took the hormones. Now I would never want them to go away. And I feel incredible comfortable in this androgynous body. It hasn’t changed much since going off hormones. Some things may ‘revert’, but others won’t because I don’t want them to. I know that for myself because my spiritual journey has been progressing very far during that time.

    When I started to want to look more and actually ‘pass’ as male, it was due to my being uncomfortable in the feminine gender role, too, though because I was totally sure that I was a gay man and wanted to be desired by men as a man so to say. That became a very secondary thing as time progressed, though. My so called transition actually even made me more sensitive to misogyny instead of less, also because suddenly I was a comparatively feminine man who was sometimes and sometimes wasn’t perceived as gay. Now that this all became clear to me, I did not want to ‘change back’ or anything. I felt good, so why change it? I liked my changed life situation and my new sensitivity was an enrichment, not something that I considered bad. Also, now I was unconventional in another sense because I was seen as a man who was sometimes very masculine and sometimes very feminine, according to liking, moods and circumstances. This obviously posed a threat to some very insecure, most masculine men and I was mocked sometimes but I was never a victim of any kind of real violence because I never had a victim mentality. You are the Creator of your own reality and even though I was not consciously aware of it, I’ve always lived it. I get what I want, also the things that many people consider as bad – and I did want some of that, too.

    Now, I don’t have a gender identity. I just am. I also don’t have a sexual identity. I just see who I feel attracted to and if at all. So far, I have not felt any sexual attraction that would make me want to sleep with someone, even though I did have sexual relationships with males – on and off male hormones. I did not dislike sex, but it was usually less interesting than reading a book. The intimate physical touching per se was the actual thing what I liked most. But I could and would do it with any person I like if they agreed.
    My sex drive has not changed an inch either way. Testosterone did not make me want to suddenly have sex. (I had normal and sometimes high levels of testosterone regarding the male standard.) This is also why I now would not accredit much to sexual hormones any more in matters of sexual wants and needs. In my case, there was and is no correlation.
    The only people who were really opposed to me taking hormones and in their perspective changing my gender were my parents. There was no bad society that made me miserable – because I was convinced that it was nobody’s business but mine. And it showed. I am not ‘generally outed’, but if I decide to tell people that my private parts are not what my outward appearance, which is masculine leaning towards androgyny, I am very casual about the outing. People are usually surprised but then they are like: “Oh, okay.” And treat me as a human – or a man, I don’t know

    My point is, a so called transgender experience can be mostly easy, exciting and enjoyable. It is just another experience that the Universal Consciousness (or call it what you want) wants to experience. In my case it was not a super difficult struggle with a huge drama. I just wanted to do it and did it. So what?

    I also don’t feel offended by people who have something against transgenderism or whatever. Opinions are opinions and I can live with them.
    I can only be offended if I think that I am wrong or if I live in fear of [insert whatever].
    And funnily enough, people usually change their mind about such ‘problematic topics’ once they know someone they like who may be called transgender, regardless if they actually identify as transgender or not. When someone likes you, it is a totally secondary 'trait' because the emotional connection is there anyway.

    I also think that this splitting up in so called ‘identity traits’ is a type of divide and conquer and makes victims rather than empowering people.
    Especially when people from the so called LGBT*QI spectrum actually separate themselves from ‘the others’ and form their special groups the split did not have to be forced, they have separated themselves. It gets sold as empowerment when it is actually pitting one group against another. The LGBT*QI community is no community anyway in my experience. There are plenty of misogynist homosexually identifying males, there are many transphobic homosexually identifying females. There are many homosexually identifying people who think that bisexuals don’t exist. There are those who want to party and have sex all the time, there are those who want to marry and assimilate to normal society. There are those that want to fight politically and there are those who want to just live their lives according to their personal tastes. This is everything but homogenous. These are differences between people who may or may not have certain types of so called ‘identity traits’ in common. But otherwise they are as different from each other as from any other person on the planet.
    Unity in diversity makes sense to me, not separation into different types of divisions and ‘others’. It is a distraction – like so many other things that I will not elaborate on here.
    And when all the groups of people who form their identity around certain restrictive concepts avoid each other and fight against each other despite not actually wanting to get to know ‘the others’, the separation lasts. So divide and conquer mission accomplished.

    I don’t condone political correctness, though, or criminalizing certain opinions. This is just an excuse to restrict expression rights even further.

    I have no identity any more, I describe what I am doing and what I have done. It changes in a blink of an eye anyway. I have once transgendered, so to say. Currently, I do not gender because my mind is not gendering toward either polarity. It simply doesn’t matter to me. Other people usually think that I am manning and not womaning and that is fine. Some may think that I am feminining or gaying, though. It is their reality, not mine, so whatever. It has nothing to do with my perspective but with theirs and this is fine, too.
    And why would I be offended by Myself having a different experience? Usually Myself in those other realities is not very present in Mine anyway because what my persona (i.e. role) wants to experience is something else what the other persona wants to live though.

    Otherwise I just am.


    BTW: I don’t have a lot of media exposure, so I don’t know how transgenderism is being pushed or not – and frankly, I don’t care. BUT (yes the ominous BUT) this pushing or not pushing has not affected my personal life in any way. I just live my life and see what happens – without fear. The media can change your reality and the media does change the reality of billions of people daily. It is a choice to have your reality changed by something outside yourself.

    If this pushing is taking place in your realities it is probably just another try to take away rights of ‘free’ expression. That it is ‘transgenderism’ is only secondary. It could be literally anything else. And it will be something else at some point. Oh, it already is. There are ‘islamists’ too! But they are currently the ‘enemy’ and ‘transgenderism’ is currently the supposed ‘friend’. There have to be two sides of the medal… for the people who need their duality.

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    Default Re: Transgenderism: Is it Mental Illness?

    Transgenderism is increasingly being encouraged, particularly on children, the Illuminati are in the process of eliminating sex/gender, this is a prelude to transhumanism.

    Occult roots of the post gender movement

    In toto, the series will consist of the following sections:
    Part 1: The occult roots of the postgender movement
    Part 2: Postgenderism as transhumanist technology
    Part 3: The “feminist revolution” and postgenderism
    Part 4: The postgenderism re-education of culture
    Part 5: The postgenderism worldview and literature

    https://illuminatiwatcher.com/the-oc...nder-movement/

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    Default Re: Transgenderism: Is it Mental Illness?

    If we did indeed 'start out' (spiritually) with no gender, 'going back' to not having genders would seem to be the logical conclusion.

    I don't feel as if there's anything sinister about a race of beings that don't have gender - to me, that's just evolution. There's no other direction to go.

    I'm actually kind of impressed at Avery, the little girl on the National Geographic. That tagline "the best thing about being a girl is, now I don't have to pretend to be a boy" makes me want to cry from happiness.

    "Knowing what you want" is a mental illness? Seems kind of foolish.
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    Default Re: Transgenderism: Is it Mental Illness?

    This video was posted in another thread but deserves to be posted here too:



    Many/most people who identify as transgender were apparently abused as children, which this guy (also a victim and former transgender) discusses above.


    Quote Posted by petra (here)
    If we did indeed 'start out' (spiritually) with no gender, 'going back' to not having genders would seem to be the logical conclusion.
    Our spirits also don't have physical bodies, so according to this logic, the logical conclusion would be actively getting rid of our physical bodies, perhaps through suicide. And coincidentally, transgenders have a 42-46% suicide attempt rate.

    Quote Suicide attempts among trans men
    (46%) and trans women (42%) were
    slightly higher than the full sample (41%).
    Cross-dressers assigned male at birth
    have the lowest reported prevalence of
    suicide attempts among gender identity
    groups (21%).
    National average is 4.6%, and these people are attempting suicide at nearly 10 times that rate. They have mental illnesses and aren't getting the proper treatment. I don't want to hear anything about bullying, either, because as much trouble as black people put up with in the US, including outright slavery, they never had such outrageous suicide attempt rates, and I'm not sure who would even try to equate any form of bullying with the psychological oppression of slavery.

    Some Jim Jones cult members were probably crying with happiness too, as they committed mass suicide. All of this stuff is feelings based and not based on any kind of rational thinking at all. It's been part of an ongoing social programming agenda for decades now, going all the way back at least to Weimar Germany, where the first transgender stuff was pushed by the German Communist Party.

    If this is really "natural" and the logical conclusion to anything, then why don't we also start giving gender reassignment surgery to animals? All someone has to do is figure out what gender an animal "feels like." If toddlers these days are being treated like transgenders before they're old enough to even know what sex is, then why not animals too?

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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    I attended some classes in the Bay Area years ago that were given by a group of psychics.
    Among the subjects that came up were reincarnation, androgeny and homosexuality.
    It was generally agreed upon by the psychics (and it seems very likely true to me) that as androgynous souls who have come here (whether willingly or not) we must experience this reality on Earth (though it may be different elsewhere) as both genders, through a series of many incarnations.
    But many souls may have a preference for one gender or the other, and so they will choose to incarnate as their chosen gender again and again until the time comes inevitably, when their Higher Self steps in and sees to it that the soul begins to incarnate as their least favorite gender, uncomfortable as that may be.
    This can seem like an unnatural ordeal to some, and the changeover may take many lifetimes to achieve successfully, before the soul adjusts, physically, mentally and emotionally.
    Electing to go so far as to have transgender surgery is a manifestation of resistance to a kind of natural law, as OMG said, yet it is certainly permissible karmically.
    It is, if nothing else, a sign that that soul is simply not yet willing to take on the characteristics of the unfavorite gender, but it will be a learning experience, in any case.
    Things are no doubt less complicated on worlds where the androgynous nature of the soul is more accepted.
    But part of 3D experiencing is very much about duality, and that can certainly create a lot of complications.
    Though we can also look at it as an interesting experience, of course!
    Great story. I'm not so sure the soul is natively androgynous though. The 4 cats I'm aware of who reincarnated all came back as the same sex and personality as before. Simon Parkes says that animals don't get mind-wiped between lives the way humans do. John Lear thought that humans are processed on the moon between lives and are purposefully reincarnated as the wrong sex.

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