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    "Quality, not quantity"! Kindred souls here on Avalon!!

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    A routine update here, in case folks may not be fully aware.

    The Avalon Library continues to grow steadily. Only a very small proportion of new uploads are posted as updates on the forum.
    • In the ebooks section, there are now over 2,300 books, including some which are very hard to find.
    • In the main section, there are over 100 documentaries and other videos, including YouTube items which have been censored or removed.
    • And there's a Coast to Coast AM section with over 300 Coast to Coast radio shows.
    That, and much, much more. There are some very rare and interesting items in there. We're really proud of it... do check it out regularly. It's all for you.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    A routine update here, in case folks may not be fully aware.

    The Avalon Library continues to grow steadily. Only a very small proportion of new uploads are posted as updates on the forum.
    • In the ebooks section, there are now over 2,300 books, including some which are very hard to find.
    • In the main section, there are over 100 documentaries and other videos, including YouTube items which have been censored or removed.
    • And there's a Coast to Coast AM section with over 300 Coast to Coast radio shows.
    That, and much, much more. There are some very rare and interesting items in there. We're really proud of it... do check it out regularly. It's all for you.

    Gutted that the ebook section of The Avalon Library has gone. Missing it already. Do you plan on bringing it back Bill?

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    A routine update here, in case folks may not be fully aware.

    The Avalon Library continues to grow steadily. Only a very small proportion of new uploads are posted as updates on the forum.
    • In the ebooks section, there are now over 2,300 books, including some which are very hard to find.
    • In the main section, there are over 100 documentaries and other videos, including YouTube items which have been censored or removed.
    • And there's a Coast to Coast AM section with over 300 Coast to Coast radio shows.
    That, and much, much more. There are some very rare and interesting items in there. We're really proud of it... do check it out regularly. It's all for you.

    Gutted that the ebook section of The Avalon Library has gone. Missing it already. Do you plan on bringing it back Bill?
    I'm afraid we can't, in its present form.

    The main issue is that only a small proportion of all the books there were copyrighted. Many were old and hard to find, extremely valuable reference material that I only personally ever used to search for keywords and find short sections to quote or highlight in posts. But taken all together, it was a fantastic, huge encyclopedia, the best doors-wide-open literary library on the net.

    What's needed is to sift through them all — 2,300 of them — and weed out the ones that are (or may be) copyrighted. But that's really an enormous task.

    A book published in 1925 may have a copyright notice in the preface, but has that expired? (Probably, but who knows for sure?) And in the case of authors who have passed (like Jim Marrs, Ingo Swann, Colin Wilson, and many others), who owns the copyrights now — if they do? And how to find out? I can't e-mail Jim now to ask him.

    So the entire issue is fraught. In the bigger picture, the real issue is the internet, and that so much is now widely available (or at least searchable) in a vast, global information cloud. Every book that was ever listed there is also elsewhere on the net.

    They may be hard to find, so all we sought to do was to assemble all this in one place to save people searching for hours. In a way, it was just a list of search results, all predigested. We just did the grunt work for others, and like presenting a platform for the forum itself, this was our pleasure.

    Regarding the threat of action taken against us, we were just an easy target. And the reason why we were an easy target, of course, is that it had become too big. We never tried to stay hidden. All we ever wanted to do was be of service to the community.

    It was like hippies in the 70s sharing their LPs with one another. But the internet makes it extremely easy to copy and share, and the entire 15th century concept of copyright, with all its facets and nuances and restrictions, is now quite a debating point — probably among everyone but authors.

    A personal note.

    When I was publishing a great deal of original material, in Project Camelot days, nothing was copyrighted. Not a word, and not a single video. Nor did we ever sell anything. We wanted people to go copy it and spread it all around.

    I've never monetized a YouTube video, either. Not one. I just refuse.

    The standard paradigm is:
    "I've got this thing that I think you may want, but I'm not going to let you have it unless you give me money first."
    My paradigm is:
    "I've got this thing that I think you may want, so please help yourself — and if you want to donate something, I'll be grateful. But I'm not counting on it. It's all up to you."
    But I know I see the world differently from almost everyone else. So many people on the net are about money. But I just can't think that way. If I did, Avalon would be covered with advertising, and half of it would be behind a paywall. So my ethics are solid. They're just not quite the same as most other people's.

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    Default Re: The Avalon Library: discussion and requests

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by iamofopenmind (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    A routine update here, in case folks may not be fully aware.

    The Avalon Library continues to grow steadily. Only a very small proportion of new uploads are posted as updates on the forum.
    • In the ebooks section, there are now over 2,300 books, including some which are very hard to find.
    • In the main section, there are over 100 documentaries and other videos, including YouTube items which have been censored or removed.
    • And there's a Coast to Coast AM section with over 300 Coast to Coast radio shows.
    That, and much, much more. There are some very rare and interesting items in there. We're really proud of it... do check it out regularly. It's all for you.

    Gutted that the ebook section of The Avalon Library has gone. Missing it already. Do you plan on bringing it back Bill?
    I'm afraid we can't, in its present form.

    The main issue is that only a small proportion of all the books there were copyrighted. Many were old and hard to find, extremely valuable reference material that I only personally ever used to search for keywords and find short sections to quote or highlight in posts. But taken all together, it was a fantastic, huge encyclopedia, the best doors-wide-open literary library on the net.

    What's needed is to sift through them all — 2,300 of them — and weed out the ones that are (or may be) copyrighted. But that's really an enormous task.

    A book published in 1925 may have a copyright notice in the preface, but has that expired? (Probably, but who knows for sure?) And in the case of authors who have passed (like Jim Marrs, Ingo Swann, Colin Wilson, and many others), who owns the copyrights now — if they do? And how to find out? I can't e-mail Jim now to ask him.

    So the entire issue is fraught. In the bigger picture, the real issue is the internet, and that so much is now widely available (or at least searchable) in a vast, global information cloud. Every book that was ever listed there is also elsewhere on the net.

    They may be hard to find, so all we sought to do was to assemble all this in one place to save people searching for hours. In a way, it was just a list of search results, all predigested. We just did the grunt work for others, and like presenting a platform for the forum itself, this was our pleasure.

    Regarding the threat of action taken against us, we were just an easy target. And the reason why we were an easy target, of course, is that it had become too big. We never tried to stay hidden. All we ever wanted to do was be of service to the community.

    It was like hippies in the 70s sharing their LPs with one another. But the internet makes it extremely easy to copy and share, and the entire 15th century concept of copyright, with all its facets and nuances and restrictions, is now quite a debating point — probably among everyone but authors.

    A personal note.

    When I was publishing a great deal of original material, in Project Camelot days, nothing was copyrighted. Not a word, and not a single video. Nor did we ever sell anything. We wanted people to go copy it and spread it all around.

    I've never monetized a YouTube video, either. Not one. I just refuse.

    The standard paradigm is:
    "I've got this thing that I think you may want, but I'm not going to let you have it unless you give me money first."
    My paradigm is:
    "I've got this thing that I think you may want, so please help yourself — and if you want to donate something, I'll be grateful. But I'm not counting on it. It's all up to you."
    But I know I see the world differently from almost everyone else. So many people on the net are about money. But I just can't think that way. If I did, Avalon would be covered with advertising, and half of it would be behind a paywall. So my ethics are solid. They're just not quite the same as most other people's.
    Well thank you anyway for providing this much needed service, it was a fabulous resource and has given myself and many others countless hours of enjoyment. Back to torrents I guess

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    It's a real shame. I used to use it very often because a subject I knew nothing about was recommended and the reading material provided. Very seldom will I buy a book just based on a preface or a short synopsis. I almost always buy books I have read because I know it's something I want in my library. Often I would buy a book by an author because I was able to first read other works by that author and found their work valuable.

    However, I completely understand why it had to be pulled. It's just no one really benefits from it not being there.
    "The only true currency in this bankrupt world is what we share with someone when we are uncool." From the movie "Almost Famous""l "Let yourself stand cool and composed before a million universes." Walt Whitman

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    Is there anything I can do to help with this? I volunteer to volunteer!

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    Hi Bill

    don't suppose you still have the web links for any of these books? So many of this 'free' links to books now need to register and pay.

    Even many Gutenburg scanned books end up on amazon kindle selection!

    Otherwise find a country that has no copyright laws, see below, not much choice - San Marino??

    The following countries have no known copyright relations with the United States.
    Afghanistan
    Eritrea
    Ethiopia
    Iran
    Iraq
    San Marino
    Turkmenistan

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    Quote Posted by Pexdog99 (here)
    Hi Bill

    don't suppose you still have the web links for any of these books? So many of this 'free' links to books now need to register and pay.
    There's an Avalon team working right now to establish what can safely be in the library, and what can't. That might take a couple of weeks or more, but after that it'll all be relaunched. We have many books which are pretty much open source, and the job — not a small one! — is to identify what should be excluded.

    See this Members-only thread:

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