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    Default Re: Tom DeLonge, TTSA and 'Sekret Machines': Is Disclosure Going Mainstream?

    I've wondered if Dolan's beautiful new wife may have something to do with Dolan's sudden change of course.
    Her bio gives a wholesome picture, save for associations with Ramtha and Justin Trudeau. See: https://richarddolanmembers.com/abou...racey-garbutt/
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    Dark Journalist's X-Series #72:

    UFO File Coup — TTSA CIA Fake Disclosure Revealed


    (@Rich Dolan: do please watch this, and take good notes. )

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    Default Re: Tom DeLonge, TTSA and 'Sekret Machines': Is Disclosure Going Mainstream?

    Controlled Gradual Disclosure explained by Grant Cameron - Tom DeLong Steven Greer J. J. Abrams

    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    Controlled Gradual Disclosure explained by Grant Cameron - Tom DeLong Steven Greer J. J. Abrams

    Yes. But this is such old news. Every good student or researcher of ufology, past and present, has known this for decades.

    For reasons I genuinely don't understand, Cameron feels this is something new he's just realized or figured out. So he has to tell everyone, like a kind of educative news release, that the USG is conditioning the public to accept the reality, but just VERY slowly and (from their point of view) safely. (And yes, they are.)

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    I've wondered if Dolan's beautiful new wife may have something to do with Dolan's sudden change of course.
    Her bio gives a wholesome picture, save for associations with Ramtha and Justin Trudeau. See: https://richarddolanmembers.com/abou...racey-garbutt/
    Yes, many have wondered similarly, including someone I know who's been close to Richard for many years.

    Under the highly professional exterior, there are signs of stress. Every now and then, he gives it away in moments of uncharacteristic strong expression.

    In this latest livestream (X series #72 above), Daniel Liszt says, with genuine respect for his fellow researcher, that the Richard Dolan of 2010 would never have agreed with some of Richard's current views. As we get older, we don't always get wiser.

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    Controlled Gradual Disclosure explained by Grant Cameron - Tom DeLong Steven Greer J. J. Abrams

    Yes. But this is such old news. Every good student or researcher of ufology, past and present, has known this for decades.

    For reasons I genuinely don't understand, Cameron feels this is something new he's just realized or figured out. So he has to tell everyone, like a kind of educative news release, that the USG is conditioning the public to accept the reality, but just VERY slowly and (from their point of view) safely. (And yes, they are.)
    Actually - that's not all he talked about in the video - Start around 10:15 and watch/listen to more. THAT is why I posted the video... his comments as to the phenomena.

    The comment I wrote in the comment section summerizes it -

    Quote This is opinion and theory only - There’s one reason for slow roll,
    soft, controlled disclosure folks rarely mention (if ever). One of the
    concerns regarding some of the “phenomena” is related to considerations
    of the observer effect. What I mean by this is - The observer plays a
    role in bringing form to that which is observed. Observation is
    preceded by attention and that which is not conceivable doesn’t get the
    attention, yet that which becomes conceivable, when the phenomena peeks
    at us, our perceptions co-create the form it takes. Perceptions appear
    limited to that which we allow are selves to conceive. And so by
    raising the awareness of the masses, you risk the masses generating the
    worst possible manifestations of the phenomena. THIS is the reason for
    the soft disclosure, to mitigate the impact this aspect of the phenomena
    will have on our world as we march closer to fuller understanding of
    that which we are faced.

    If this theory is held by the insiders, then I can certainly
    understand why they wish to control the disclosure. Why disclose it at
    all? The phenomena has already left the barn. It has already begun to
    drop the hints of its presence. So the choice may be, to control that
    which they think is inevitable or not. Folks generally choose control.
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    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    For Avalon's discernment...

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    We reveal perhaps the greatest scientific discovery in human history which, up until now, has been kept secret. Former US Air Force Intelligence Specialist Mike Turber discloses that the “Tic Tac” shaped UFO’s recently shown in videos released by the US Navy are in fact US Aircraft able to fly at speeds at least 10 times faster than anything achieved before because they have learned how to defeat gravity. Turber hints he has actually flown in one, and states Trump flew one to North Korea to impress Kim Jong-un!

    One can listen here: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/hid...vhvOtJ1vwSOVTc

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    “Tic Tac” UFO’s Are Secret US Aircraft!
    It's not impossible. Both Richard Dolan and John Greenewald (from The Black Vault) refuse to rule that out, both noting that the US Air Force has stayed EXTREMELY quiet about all this.

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    Turber hints he has actually flown in one, and states Trump flew one to North Korea to impress Kim Jong-un!
    LOL, really? Maybe that's the reason why his face is so orange ;-)
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    Turber hints he has actually flown in one, and states Trump flew one to North Korea to impress Kim Jong-un!
    LOL, really? Maybe that's the reason why his face is so orange ;-)
    Actually, Mike Turber doesn't say that at all. (Though that's kind of a shame! ) He describes the Tic-Tac as an 'autonomous vehicle' — i.e. a drone. (Though of course, there's room inside it — 46 feet long, and 9 feet wide, fitting neatly into a large trailer — for a crew.) If there's any truth to Turber's statements of this craft being shown off to other nations' leaders, it'd all have been done through remote piloting.

    This may be why the term 'UAP' is now being sold so strongly. Those following this whole discussion (see John Greenewald's latest radio show, for instance) will understand how TTSA's term 'UAP' is really being primarily used to describe drones. Not what we know as UFOs, at all.

    And, TTSA has now formally stated they're not a UFO research group. Go figure. I may well have more to say about all this later, but I find Mike Turber's presentation very compelling, and it sure does connect a large number of dots.

    The hypothesis? Where this is all going is the unveiling of new technology. NOT the unveiling of the existence of ET visitors.

    So, so interesting. Right now, I'm placing my $10 bet right there.
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    Default Re: Tom DeLonge, TTSA and 'Sekret Machines': Is Disclosure Going Mainstream?

    I reckon their modus operandi is as I stated earlier after hearing of them being "stationary" whilst at the same time looking as if they were bouncing around within a little invisible box is that they are super cooled and somehow "held" and manipulated from a great distance ( space ) by an unseen pair of "chopsticks" ( Triangulated energy ) - Have you ever tried to get that wire around the bent wire at a fairground ? Its hard to keep still !

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    It’s totally possible the tic-tac objects are man made rather than extraterrestrial made - which does raise an interesting set of assumptions...

    The tic-tac was reportedly in both cases one of many. Do we then have a fleet of these ridiculously “out there” in every scientific way craft?

    The much larger, underwater craft that was spotted by the two pilots slightly below the waves... is that ours then, too? Where was it coming from?

    I will say the claim that Donald Trump rode in one of these is most certainly false, as Bill pointed out above. Donald is notoriously awful at keeping secrets, and equally as bad at who he shares them with

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    Turber hints he has actually flown in one, and states Trump flew one to North Korea to impress Kim Jong-un!
    LOL, really? Maybe that's the reason why his face is so orange ;-)
    Actually, Mike Turber doesn't say that at all. (Though that's kind of a shame! ) He describes the Tic-Tac as an 'autonomous vehicle' — i.e. a drone. (Though of course, there's room inside it — 46 feet long, and 9 feet wide, fitting neatly into a large trailer — for a crew.) If there's any truth to Turber's statements of this craft being shown off to other nations' leaders, it'd all have been done through remote piloting.

    This may be why the term 'UAP' is now being sold so strongly. Those following this whole discussion (see John Greenewald's latest radio show, for instance) will understand how TTSA's term 'UAP' is really being primarily used to describe drones. Not what we know as UFOs, at all.

    And, TTSA has now formally stated they're not a UFO research group. Go figure. I may well have more to say about all this later, but I find Mike Turber's presentation very compelling, and it sure does connect a large number of dots.

    The hypothesis? Where this is all going is the unveiling of new technology. NOT the unveiling of the existence of ET visitors.

    So, so interesting. Right now, I'm placing my $10 bet right there.
    For the moment, I'm sticking with this view. But out of curiosity, and to check what Mike Turber has said on other subjects, I went to look at Turber's other interviews on the same channel.

    Here they are. (I'll not embed them, but anyone can check them out.)
    1. https://youtube.com/watch?v=WbS8SF_IRsA (18 Oct, 2018)
    2. https://youtube.com/watch?v=e0ItJzAPpNg (23 July, 2019)
    3. https://youtube.com/watch?v=Op0jdAHIfXo (29 July, 2019)
    4. https://youtube.com/watch?v=9N32uEysqI8 (2 Oct, 2019)
    These are all about the Oct 2017 Las Vegas shooting. Turber argues that Stephen Paddock was the lone gunman. He may or may not be sincere, but either way it has to be said it's a red flag against his credentials as a smart and credible investigator.

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    Jeff Rense | Is Turber A Disinfo Agent?

    Published 12th November 2019

    Renowned radio host Jeff Rense welcomes Jim from The Hidden Truth Show to discuss Mr Turber's assertion that the "Tic Tac UFO" are secret US aircraft. Mr Rense strongly feels that Mr Tuber's work on the Las Vegas shootings & The Tic Tac videos point in the direction of Mr Turber being a disinformation agent for none other than the US government.

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