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    A few weeks ago I hear this rock star Tom Delonge from 90s band blink-182 on Coast to Coast.

    I was ready to roll my eyes, but this guy spent 4 hours tying together every popular UFO conspiracy theory into a coherent narrative and adding his own story into the mix.

    He says he has 10 advisers in government and DOD roles and he will release fiction, non-fiction books and documentary under the name Sekret Machines.

    Fair enough, he has an interest, obviously has a book to sell, and it sounds like a decent read.

    Then I read more into the guy, and he has decade old interviews about what seems like early involvement with the Disclosure Project (keeping the testimony tapes in his home), talking about having his phone tapped, and last year an interview where he mentioned a strange trip into the Nevada desert.

    His band Angels and Airwaves are also steeped in masonic symbolism and spacey lyrics.

    Now he says he recently "pitched" his way into high circles, and his Sekret Machines book is the starting point of a coming disclosure for a younger audience. From looking into the documentary, it seems like John Podesta is interviewed.

    From the Coast interview, he seemed to imply that the humans in government were the good guys, and disclosure has been held back by beings called the "others". And that he's been told a lifeform was found in the Cold War.

    He also gathered that UFO crashes were deliberately staged in different countries throughout history, to help advance technology, in what appeared to be a chess game between these beings to see which race, country were the strongest. Religions are also deliberately set against each other as part of this game.

    Apparently he's appearing on ATS this Monday.

    Could a rock star really be the vehicle for some disclosure effort?
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    Default Re: Tom DeLonge and 'Sekret Machines': Is Disclosure Going Mainstream?

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    More about Tom DeLonge, written up for Coast To Coast AM here:

    Co-founder of the rock bands Blink 182 and Angels and Airwaves, Tom DeLonge, joined George Knapp for the entire program to share riveting government secrets he's learned about alien interactions on Earth. DeLonge abruptly changed his career focus last year when he announced the launch of Sekret Machines, the umbrella title for a series of books, films, and documentaries which will focus on UFOs, government secrecy, alien intelligence, and related paranormal subjects. He has recruited a team of authors and filmmakers to work on various parts of his 'transmedia' endeavor, and has used his rock star status to secure introductions to several highly placed officials and executives within the military/industrial complex, who are now informing his research.

    Detailing his labyrinthine journey of meeting with various NASA and government officials in a host of different cities and locations, he explained that they were interested in his pitch to disseminate information about the UFO and alien question to a younger audience, and portray the government in a more positive light than in the past. Speaking under conditions of anonymity, officials told him that concealment of information stemmed from the Cold War era, when nuclear war was a constant concern. They referred to the aliens as the 'Others,' and said they could best be conceptualized as gods.

    "The entire UFO phenomenon is about multiple gods that fight among themselves, and by design factionalize mankind into different religions, to step back and let us fight each other, so it has other things that it wants to accomplish, and we don't notice them because we're too involved fighting each other," DeLonge recounted.

    The various UFO crashes might have been done on purpose for the aliens to translate their technology to humanity in order to give us greater weapons of war to use on each other, he continued. According to his sources, the US has "cracked gravity" and is building machinery that incorporates antigravity. The 'Others' are said to be behind the cattle mutilation phenomenon. DeLonge's co-author A.J. Hartley joined the conversation for a segment to discuss the writing process in their new thriller Chasing Shadows that weaves in historical material about real UFO cases, like the Barney & Betty Hill abduction.

    The four hours of the show (27 March 2016, minus commercials) are archived here for anyone to download:
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    Default Re: Tom DeLonge and 'Sekret Machines': Is Disclosure Going Mainstream?

    So much dripping going on everywhere...It is inevitable ..the only question remains ..when & how..

    Great times to be living on this planet right now for so many reasons!! I embrace it!!

    Peace!

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    Default Re: Tom DeLonge and 'Sekret Machines': Is Disclosure Going Mainstream?

    I don't know. This 'Sekret Machines' story line seems to be more the premise of a fresh, new movie. Maybe much better than the latest Star Wars western/movie.
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    Default Re: Tom DeLonge and 'Sekret Machines': Is Disclosure Going Mainstream?



    I'd like to encourage everyone to listen to this interview. (Download here: http://avalonlibrary.net/Bill/wetransfer-e8ca72.zip.) The total time, minus commercials, is about two and a half hours. It may be important, and we may all get to hear more about this in due course, if this really is an orchestrated roll-out of sorts.

    George Knapp (who is far better than George Noory) did a good job. He knows a lot of stuff about this field... a little more than Tom DeLonge. Twice in the third hour, at 10:33 and 21:30, Knapp challenges DeLonge, very professionally, that he may be being spun and used (my paraphrase).

    In response, DeLonge comes over (in my opinion) as basically star-struck — his experiences and contacts with the military are clearly very real — and insists he's being told the truth, having been taken very much into the inside confidence of the military-intel machine.

    I doubt it's as simple as that. It sounds to me like an unplanned opportunity for a valuable limited hangout. That doesn't mean this is a bad thing to happen... but DeLonge may well be helping these guys solve a problem they have, at least partially. So I'd suggest we need to keep all that in mind.

    A few further points to also keep in mind, maybe — and I welcome more from others:
    • Any opinions I might offer here are based only on listening (carefully!) to this one interview. So they're subject to change.
    • I tend to think DeLonge is telling the whole truth (with some sensitive details appropriately redacted) about how come he became involved in all this.
    • Based on what I've heard (subject to change, as I noted above) I'm finding myself thinking DeLonge is enthusiastic, honest, but naive. His military contacts didn't plan for his coming to them with his proposals, but that doesn't mean that they're not smart, informed and opportunistic.
    • They will also have profiled him right up the wazoo (and quickly, too), knowing exactly what he will and won't do, think, or believe. So while it suits DeLonge to feel that he's kind of been in control of quite a lot of what's transpired (listen to the interview), it may actually not be that way at all.
    • I'd love for DeLonge to sit in a room for a day or two with Richard Dolan, Timothy Good, Jim Marrs, Linda Howe, Joseph Farrell, and Catherine Austin Fitts. (I'd not mind being there, too. ) I suspect DeLonge's focus might be sharpened just a little, and his perspective broadened.
    • Finally, watch this space... it's just possible this one will start to roll quite a long way.
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    Quote Now he says he recently "pitched" his way into high circles, and his Sekret Machines book is the starting point of a coming disclosure for a younger audience.
    I may be getting cynical, but as I read that quoted line it sounded like implanting a meme in the younger generation. I'll try to listen to interview later.

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    Default Re: Tom DeLonge and 'Sekret Machines': Is Disclosure Going Mainstream?

    Quote Posted by Ewan (here)

    as I read that quoted line it sounded like implanting a meme in the younger generation.
    Yes. The meme, clearly stated by DeLonge himself, is that [my paraphrase, but actually maybe pretty close] the military-intel insiders are heroes who have had a bad rap and need all the support they can get. DeLonge himself used the word 'heroes' several times.

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    Default Re: Tom DeLonge and 'Sekret Machines': Is Disclosure Going Mainstream?

    This interview is from 2012 ,Larry has done many UFO items over the years always
    with two or three researchers and a sceptic with the same result , what ever
    evidence is put forward unless the sceptic can touch , feel and see it
    they will no believe it...LOL

    James Fox flips the editor of the Sceptic mag 180 degrees at one point when he
    says that they had changed there view about climate change. Basically these
    groups are often funded by intel groups ask Mr.Pope , Mr.French or Dr David Clarke
    among others.....

    Nick Pope, MOD Spokesman and UFO Skeptic on Jimmy Church Fade To Black, 4 March 2015
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...772#post940772


    Some of the shows Larry Did are ok , but this one is not so good but
    interesting in some respects imo....


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    Default Re: Tom DeLonge and 'Sekret Machines': Is Disclosure Going Mainstream?

    This was not the first time that Tom DeLonge has been a guest with George Knapp. Check the archives for priors. I remember once before and there may have been others. This has been developing over time...
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    Default Re: Tom DeLonge and 'Sekret Machines': Is Disclosure Going Mainstream?

    This is what I was looking for before I got side tracked......

    Interview starts aprox 10 mins in......This is his third appearance on coast.


    Coast To Coast AM - March 27, 2016 Government UFO Revelations



    Published on 28 Mar 2016


    Coast To Coast AM - March 27, 2016 Government UFO Revelations

    Co-founder of the rock bands Blink 182 and Angels and Airwaves, Tom DeLonge, joined
    George Knapp for the entire program to share riveting government secrets he's learned
    about alien interactions on Earth. DeLonge abruptly changed his career focus last year
    when he announced the launch of Sekret Machines, the umbrella title for a series of books,
    films, and documentaries which will focus on UFOs, government secrecy, alien intelligence,
    and related paranormal subjects. He has recruited a team of authors and filmmakers to
    work on various parts of his 'transmedia' endeavor, and has used his rock star status to
    secure introductions to several highly placed officials and executives within the military/
    industrial complex, who are now informing his research.

    Detailing his labyrinthine journey of meeting with various NASA and government officials in
    a host of different cities and locations, he explained that they were interested in his pitch to
    disseminate information about the UFO and alien question to a younger audience, and portray
    the government in a more positive light than in the past. Speaking under conditions of anonymity,
    officials told him that concealment of information stemmed from the Cold War era, when nuclear
    war was a constant concern. They referred to the aliens as the 'Others,' and said they could best
    be conceptualized as gods.

    "The entire UFO phenomenon is about multiple gods that fight among themselves, and by design
    factionalize mankind into different religions, to step back and let us fight each other, so it has other
    things that it wants to accomplish, and we don't notice them because we're too involved fighting
    each other," DeLonge recounted.

    The various UFO crashes might have been done on purpose for the aliens to translate their technology
    to humanity in order to give us greater weapons of war to use on each other, he continued. According
    to his sources, the US has "cracked gravity" and is building machinery that incorporates antigravity.
    The 'Others' are said to be behind the cattle mutilation phenomenon. DeLonge's co-author A.J. Hartley
    joined the conversation for a segment to discuss the writing process in their new thriller Chasing Shadows
    that weaves in historical material about real UFO cases, like the Barney & Betty Hill abduction.

    Coast To Coast AM - March 27, 2016 Government UFO Revelations
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    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
    Coast To Coast AM - March 27, 2016 Government UFO Revelations

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=vkQHSO-T9hk
    Yes, that's what I uploaded, and was the interview I was referring to.

    Quote Posted by Professor (here)
    This was not the first time that Tom DeLonge has been a guest with George Knapp. Check the archives for priors. I remember once before and there may have been others. This has been developing over time...
    Yes, from http://coasttocoastam.com/guest/delonge-tom/55135:
    UFOs: Mysteries & Theories
    Sunday November 30, 2014
    Tom DeLonge, member of Blink-182, joined George Knapp to discuss his interest in ufology, his recent trip to Area 51, and how he's using his celebrity status to bring awareness to oddities and mysterious stories from around the world. First hour guest, ufologist Robert Hastings spoke about cases in which UFOs have appeared over nuclear weapon sites and sometimes tampered with or shutdown the... More »
    Host: George Knapp

    Rock & Roll and UFOs
    Sunday December 18, 2011
    George Knapp was joined by Tom DeLonge, member of the band Blink 182, for a discussion on the weird world of rock and roll, his longstanding interest in UFOs, and his new website that he hopes will become a clearinghouse for paranormal news. In the first hour, lawyer for Sirhan Sirhan, William F. Pepper, explained why he believes his client is innocent of the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy. ... More »
    Host: George Knapp

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    Quote The four hours of the show (27 March 2016, minus commercials) are archived here for anyone to download:
    http://we.tl/RXV9loWZw4 (55.9 Mb)
    Oh yeah I not sure how I missed that other than I'm very tired....LOL

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    Quote Quote Posted by Ewan (here)

    as I read that quoted line it sounded like implanting a meme in the younger
    generation.

    Yes. The meme, clearly stated by DeLonge himself, is that [my
    paraphrase, but actually maybe pretty close] the military-intel insiders are heroes
    who have had a bad rap and need all the support they can get. DeLonge himself used the word 'heroes' several times.
    I've listened to the first hour and have to go to bed ,apart from what you
    commented on I was not impressed with Hillary's disclosure caveat about
    UFO disclosure , unless its a national security issue. That means no disclosure
    and makes you wonder their motives. They were in the White house for 8
    years, also another 8 years in this administration and has thousands of leaked
    e-mails on various subjects supporting the corporate aganda's in the Middle East
    and elsewhere.Hillary had her UFO book and maywell be interested in the subject.
    Its not up to the President who ever he or she is , so unless TPTB ok disclosure
    there won't be any I don't think , Which George and Tom know.






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    The second hour starts off with the clandestine meetings with
    more questions than answers and is intriguing and he sounds
    genuine and it could well of happened ? George says the good
    stuff is coming up after the break aprox 118 mins in....
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    The thing about rock music type of people, is that some of them are incredibly real.

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    Quote Posted by WhiteLove (here)
    The thing about rock music type of people, is that some of them are incredibly real.
    Thanks — but what did that mean??

    That came over like a rather shallow, casual, one-liner YouTube comment — really. I listened to this interview carefully, making notes, and gave quite some thought to my post (#5) above.
    • What's a 'rock music type of person'?
    • Are people who are not rock music type of people UNreal?
    • What's 'real'?
    • Do you have any comments on what Tom Delonge is publicly stating, or the experience he says he had?
    • Did you listen to this yourself?
    • Do you have anything to say that might be helpful to anyone seeking to understand this better?
    Not being down on you. But come on, I'm suggesting this may deserve a serious analysis, and a serious discussion.

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    Default Re: Tom DeLonge and 'Sekret Machines': Is Disclosure Going Mainstream?

    .
    This may be interesting (scheduled for tomorrow, 11 April):

    http://abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1112599/pg1

    Tom DeLonge Will be on ATS to Answer Your Sekret Machines Questions: April 11, 2016

    Whatever one might think of ATS (Above Top Secret) — I'm convinced (with reason) that it's a controlled CIA platform, and I'm not alone in that view — the members there are primarily a bunch of fairly well-informed skeptics. And some of the members are good guys, too. So DeLonge may get quite a grilling (or not!), depending on where the questions come from, how they're presented, and who asks them.

    I found this, quite easily, by searching for responses to DeLonge's public announcements on the various UFO websites, forums and radio shows. It may (or may not!) be interesting that ATS was one of the very first to respond.

    Two of the ATS founders, Springer (Mark Allin) and SkepticOverlord (Bill Irvine), are very much behind this, as is evident from their rather one-dimensional, simplistic, enthusiastic comments. The username SkepticOverlord tells you everything you need to know, and Springer/Mark Allin's wife, Melissa (ATS username Valhall) used to work for Halliburton. Go figure. I know these guys.

    If this audio is openly published (which I'd expect it to be as part of the military-intel-encouraged rollout), as opposed to being for ATS members only, it may be very revealing in several ways.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    ...
    I'd love for DeLonge to sit in a room for a day or two with Richard Dolan, Timothy Good, Jim Marrs, Linda Howe, Joseph Farrell, and Catherine Austin Fitts. (I'd not mind being there, too. ) I suspect DeLonge's focus might be sharpened just a little, and his perspective broadened.
    ...
    I would love for this to happen. Blaming 'the others' for everything, exonerating humans in positions of power is a bit far fetched. It's so obviously unbalanced the spin itself alludes to the truth. Disillusionment is the real meme

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    Default Re: Tom DeLonge and 'Sekret Machines': Is Disclosure Going Mainstream?

    Quote Two of the ATS founders, Springer (Mark Allin) and SkepticOverlord (Bill Irvine), are
    very much behind this, as is evident from their rather one-dimensional, simplistic, enthusiastic
    comments. The username SkepticOverlord tells you everything you need to know, and
    Springer/Mark Allin's wife, Melissa (ATS username Valhall) used to work for Halliburton.
    Go figure. I know these guys.
    I'm listening to Tom explain the cold war aspect and he is being a bit sycophantic
    over his praise , being 'proud of these brave men' . I understand where he's
    coming from and trying to get at , but its coming over as if ' sir' was just sitting
    at his desk waiting for the right conduit to disclose . Tom is aware of this and
    I'don't know ? we need much more and it will be interesting when the doc comes
    out. Early days.

    Something about this feels wrong , He has to disclose information in a certain
    way , to get access to a certain demographic of the population. 5 star generals
    and intel agencies are having difficulty influencing in the internet age. In the
    TV /radio/ print era it was easier to control the populations in many ways imo.

    Some of it is plausible and comes from Camelot/Avalon witness's and others.
    He realises the situation it may pay off ? or it could completely backfire and
    he could be set up to fail to push disclosure back for another generation,
    who knows ?... Phone calls next....Good question from Robert.

    Tom seems genuine and the ' timing' is interesting I've been listening and posting
    several David Ickes interviews recently and although he does not go into the ET
    disclosure that much recently. He said years ago that he was drawn to events
    culminating now 2016/17/18 and beyond which is why he is embarking on an
    open ended speaking tour in a few months. He is focusing more on the political
    and spiritual aspects of the geo political global picture . Now whether this period
    may include some form of ET disclosure and TPTB may feel the omens and celestial
    dates line up ? Its all about magik at certain levels .


    " Bloody ell " I just finished the above sentence
    Quote Its all about magik at
    certain levels
    and then 219mins in Tom say " NASA says its a very good
    time for this....' WOW' ..LOL I must be channelling esp....
    Not really I have just been on sites like Avalon as Robert said in his question.

    Just finished overall a very interesting conversation, its where it goes from here.

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    David Icke: World Wide Wake- Up Tour



    Published on 21 Feb 2016
    This is the first of four segments with David Icke. He has a tour coming up and he
    may be in your city. Our next segment goes into what the system of control
    actually wants. Interesting stuff!

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Again this is not new to people down the rabbit hole .....


    An article from todays Headline page


    CIA’s Work With Filmmakers Puts All Media Workers at Risk

    By David on 10 April 2016 GMT


    John Goodman played a moviemaker working with CIA agent Ben Affleck to
    produce a fake film in the Oscar-winning Argo. It turns out there were real CIA
    agents working with the real movie-makers to make the actual film Argo.



    ‘Vice’s Jason Leopold has uncovered documents showing the CIA
    had a role in producing up to 22 entertainment “projects,” including
    History Channel documentary Air America: The CIA’s Secret Airline,
    Bravo‘s Top Chef: Covert Cuisine, the USA Network series Covert
    Affairs and the BBC documentary The Secret War on Terror—along
    with two fictional feature films about the CIA that both came out in 2012.

    The CIA’s involvement in the production of Zero Dark Thirty (effectively
    exchanging “insider” access for a two-hour-long torture commercial) has
    already been well-established, but the agency’s role in the production of
    Argo—which won the Best Picture Oscar for 2012—was heretofore unknown.
    The extent of the CIA’s involvement in the projects is still largely classified,
    as Leopold notes, quoting an Agency audit report:’

    Read more: CIA’s Work With Filmmakers Puts All Media Workers at Risk


    http://fair.org/home/cias-work-with-...rkers-at-risk/
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    Great post and uploaded materials.

    Drip-Drip going on Hmm! well yes there is but to what end.
    Is it disclosure coming or padding for a possible 'Flash-Alien-Invasion'

    Nothing is straightforward or simple anymore, not that it has ever been so 0.o

    Back tracking now to read/watch all of this post ;sun;
    I'm a simple easy going guy that is very upset/sad with the worlds hidden controllers!
    We need LEADERS who bat from the HEART!
    Rise up above them Dark evil doers, not within anger but with LOVE

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    Quote Posted by WhiteLove (here)
    The thing about rock music type of people, is that some of them are incredibly real.
    Thanks — but what did that mean??

    That came over like a rather shallow, casual, one-liner YouTube comment — really. I listened to this interview carefully, making notes, and gave quite some thought to my post (#5) above.
    • What's a 'rock music type of person'?
    • Are people who are not rock music type of people UNreal?
    • What's 'real'?
    • Do you have any comments on what Tom Delonge is publicly stating, or the experience he says he had?
    • Did you listen to this yourself?
    • Do you have anything to say that might be helpful to anyone seeking to understand this better?
    Not being down on you. But come on, I'm suggesting this may deserve a serious analysis, and a serious discussion.
    I am also into music and can relate to certain types of personalities by their musical attitude, by their expressions etc. and when it comes to various genres within music, I've found that people that are much into rock music, some of them are really authentic in a very natural and unique way, something about their rock influence is causing that, it's a connection on a very deep level. That does not mean I think everybody else are not, not at all, there are times however when I am in contact with persons that are much into rock and I begin to feel how real the situation is being with that person, which I appreciate and it always makes me wonder what is it about rock music that causes all of this authenticity and this particular type of authenticity. Therefore, when we discuss guys like Tom Delonge being a force of disclosure, it does not surprise me that the person is also much into rock music, for me it's just an indication there could be something very authentic and true about this.
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    I am also into music and can relate to certain types of personalities by their musical attitude, by their expressions etc. and when it comes to various genres within music, I've found that people that are much into rock music, some of them are really authentic in a very natural and unique way, something about their rock influence is causing that, it's a connection on a very deep level. That does not mean I think everybody else are not, not at all, there are times however when I am in contact with persons that are much into rock and I begin to feel how real the situation is being with that person, which I appreciate and it always makes me wonder what is it about rock music that causes all of this authenticity and this particular type of authenticity. Therefore, when we discuss guys like Tom Delonge being a force of disclosure, it does not surprise me that the person is also much into rock music, for me it's just an indication there could be something very authentic and true about this.
    Thanks for the clarification. This is only partially on topic — but is kind of connected, as Tom Delonge's appeal to many will be because of his implied and assumed positive status as a valid, credible messenger. That's fully recognized by his military-intel monitors. They're smart people... almost certainly smarter then DeLonge, as I mentioned above. (DeLonge himself was awed by their credentials, as he openly said.)

    So, what's in it for them? Remember — this is above all else a PR exercise. That's not a cynical comment: it's an exact description of what's happening, and DeLonge would be the first to state this. Listen to the interview.

    Importantly, I'd seriously question whether musicians have any special claim to be more 'real and authentic' than anyone else — but this is of course a common perception/belief. A carefully crafted illusion, maybe.

    Rather, there's a lot to suggest that many modern musicians are influenced not so much by a desire to communicate truth, but by a combination of ego (this is manifest in DeLonge's account of his own experiences), commercial, style and fashion mandates, and a high-level of manipulation by the darker side of the music industry, from a high level.

    As in every other field, there is the whole, wide spectrum of humanity and spirituality. Some musicians are the highest quality human beings. Others are not.

    The same with artists, actors, producers, business people, sports people, teachers, medics, authors, engineers, scientists... everyone. To suggest that musicians have a higher claim to authenticity is I think naive. That's a created, manipulated belief system, and I'd suggest that many fall for it. But of course, they're marketed (and market themselves) that way.

    Do read this very, very important research piece by Dave McGowan:
    http://projectavalon.net/Weird_Scene...ve_McGowan.pdf
    I say that because it seems that you may not be aware of the CIA foundations of the modern music industry.

    Much in modern music was, and is, very heavily steered, filtered and controlled... and this is the possible link with DeLonge's involvement in what just might be an opportunistic but very real quasi-disclosure rollout. There are a lot of reasons to be a little wary and concerned. Early reviews of the first book are very positive... but it does feel like it's likely to be a limited hangout.

    Meaning, a carefully orchestrated (or permitted — remember, DeLonge has stated he's run everything past his advisers) partial disclosure of what the military-intel factions WANT to known and believed. But it seems highly unlikely to be the entire picture, even though DeLonge himself states that big picture is disturbing.

    It's his painting of the military-intel factions as 'heroes', and his throwaway line — listen to the interview — about 'pathetic conspiracy theories' (those were his exact words) that's worrying.

    In the briefest summary: It seems, at first sight, he may be completely in their pocket. DeLonge's musician's ego may have blinded him to what may be happening.

    I'd be most interested to hear from anyone who's already read the first book.
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