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    Pump Inlet and Outlet – This picture is of the diesel motor that powers the system.
    The pump itself is the big disc shaped thing to the left of the big cylinder sticking up with a hose coming out of it.

    Ducts – These are the ducts the fluid travels to and from the pump in.

    Tanks – Approximately 4 1/2 feet high and 5 1/2 feet long each.
    They are installed on a cargo handling system in the main cabin, close to the over–wing exits. One tank is emptied through the widow plug on one side of the plane. Then the unit is switched over to the other tank, which sprays out of the other side of the plane.

    Sprayer screws on end – This is the part that actually sticks out of the window plug.
    The window plug is on the end that sticks out to show how it goes. Just behind the pipe beside the white bottle is the sprayer that screws on the end after the system is installed in the aircraft.

    New window plug – The existing window plug is taken out and this one is put in.
    The rubber somewhat seals around the pipe, but not well enough to pressurize the aircraft. It would be unable to fly above 10,000 feet unless everyone inside wore oxygen masks.

    Sprayer Exhaust Closeup – This is the left side of the aircraft.
    There is a sprayer coming out of one window plug, and an exhaust duct coming out of the other for the engine.

    Sprayer Closeup – This is the right side of the aircraft with the sprayer installed.

    Sprayer and Exhaust Installed – View from in front of the left wing.

    This system explains so much. For years working in the industry I was always on the lookout for anything indicative of a sprayer system. I had a little doubt about the chemtrail story because I never saw evidence of a sprayer system in all the years I worked on airplanes. It didn’t dawn on me it would be removable. This system is made so that it can be installed quickly, used, and then removed as desired. When not installed, the aircraft can be used as a normal 737 cargo plane. The system can also be moved from one aircraft to another. Main cabin windows are held in by just a few screws. If I remember correctly, it is eight screws per window. Then put the other window plugs in. I have been told there is also accommodation for releasing a fluid tank from the drain for the deactivated aft lav. This is a 737 cargo plane that has been converted from a passenger plane. They are very common. The workers at the facility saw this thing on a test run in front of the hangar. Water was used in the test. It came out of the sprayers in a fine mist. If sprayed from several thousand feet, people on the ground would never know they had been sprayed. My friend said they were testing to see the spray pattern and next they were going to move the spray nozzles to the back windows and test again. Officially it is said to be a sprayer for oil dispersant. That was the second explanation. The first was that it was a big crop duster. The company realized the workers weren’t buying that, and laughing about it. They knew enough about aircraft to know that was impossible. So they changed the story. The supervisors in the plant call it a ******-killer. (assholes!) The aircraft is going to be sent to Africa when it leaves this facility. When this facility was leased by another company, I worked there for 15 years. There was another aircraft that came through there years ago that requested BLOOD RESISTANT CARPET!!! The scary thing is, there was carpet like that available. Now you tell me why they would know they would need blood resistant carpet ahead of time??? Anyway, I just thought it was noteworthy that this plane was also bound for Africa.

    source:
    http://www.reallibertymedia.com/2013...persal-system/

    Here´s a really great collection of pictures from other Chemtrail-Systems:
    http://in5d.com/exposed-photos-from-...r-seen-before/
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    Default Re: Chemtrail spraying System in detail

    Great research, excellent images and hopefully opening up this dreadful situation further to the eyes of humanity, really appreciate research like this...cheers!

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    Good post uzn,

    I had also laughed at the dispersant explanation.

    Do you have any information, or are aware of, the questions surrounding German air-force aviation fuel?


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    Default Re: Chemtrail spraying System in detail

    .
    I have to say, if I may: this has to be faked.



    There's no way such a label would exist. 'Chemtrail' is the alternative media's nickname for this stuff.

    It's not a geoengineering term. Someone's photoshopped that.

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    Default Re: Chemtrail spraying System in detail

    This Picture is from the second Link, can be fake of course. But the other pictures seem legit.

    update:
    i took out the picture in question from the above post

    @Citizen No2:
    No have not heard anything about that fuel.
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    Default Re: Chemtrail spraying System in detail

    I'm 99% sure I have seen all these images on PA before and furthermore they were tracked down to a compnay that made the motors. Can't find them now of course, because I want to.

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    It just makes your heart sink doesn't it.

    Isn't it so true that the guys doing the fitting are told a cock & bull story for its application that doesn't make sense, they the guys that initiated the contract tell of multiple different uses for a piece of apparatus.

    I'm glad you have posted this in a section that non members can see as its an education if people would actually take notice.

    BTW, blood resistant carpets would be handy in the event of a hose connector to hose becoming worn and failing, this would be the systems weak point as the misting nozzle at the window will back the pressure up in the hose to quite a degree if its a very fine mist.

    Thanks for posting .

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    .
    I have to say, if I may: this has to be faked.



    There's no way such a label would exist. 'Chemtrail' is the alternative media's nickname for this stuff.

    It's not a geoengineering term. Someone's photoshopped that.
    Yes, it seems I may have been right.

    The full story is told here:
    http://thevane.gawker.com/chemtrails...o-f-1580245450





    The blogger who's the chemtrail skeptic here could do with a slap-round-the-head wake-up call, but I do think we should stick with truth and accuracy if we possibly can. It's quite easy to do a Google image search and then track back in time to find out when an image was posted for the very first time.

    Some of the photos shown on these sites may be real, but quite a few are not. As best I understand (and I'd need to dig to find links for this), the photos of the tanks inside the aircraft are nothing to do with spraying... they're liquid ballast systems when flight-testing to see what happens when the weight balance shifts in flight (like when luggage gets dislodged, or all the passengers suddenly go to one side of the plane to see a special view).

    To replicate that, they quickly pump liquid from the starboard tanks into the port tanks... etc etc. And between fore and aft, as well. That gives the engineers a lot of information about flight stability under different conditions.

    That's why there are lots of little tanks in different places, all connected... not just one giant one.

    Now, I don't mind all this too much, because we absolutely need to wake people up about the REALITY of chemtrails. So a little 'OMG theater' may be very useful. I do feel uneasy, though, about photos like this... I'd always rather stick to reality (whatever that is ).
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    There isn't anything special about the motor & pump from a glance Ewan, probably a Kubota or similar.

    This arrangement could be used to pump water out of a flooded area or to fight fire if you hand a tank or low water pressure , or on the other hand the pump could be swapped for a generator , I actually noticed its from a hire company by the decal on the chassis .

    (I didn't see the above post as I was feverishly tapping away on the keyboard)
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    Bill is correct, apparently these are photos of ballast to mimic the dispersion of the weight of passengers /cargo in a plane. . . .nothing to do with spraying . . . sorry I don't have a link to hand, but this is old news & not accurate, as far as I know. I'll try to find the link. . .
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    Quote Posted by Ewan (here)
    I'm 99% sure I have seen all these images on PA before and furthermore they were tracked down to a compnay that made the motors. Can't find them now of course, because I want to.
    Yup, I even posted the links in a previous thread to the specs on the big green pump.
    When you are one step ahead of the crowd, you are a genius.
    Two steps ahead, and you are deemed a crackpot.

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    Default Re: Chemtrail spraying System in detail

    Quote Posted by Ewan (here)
    I'm 99% sure I have seen all these images on PA before and furthermore they were tracked down to a compnay that made the motors. Can't find them now of course, because I want to.
    I posted this same exact article about 4 months ago here on PA

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show.....Unbelievable.

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    Ballast systems......... I see.

    So what do they do with the ballast after the test....... spray it out of the windows with the temporary nozzles?


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    Quote Posted by Citizen No2 (here)
    Ballast systems......... I see.

    So what do they do with the ballast after the test....... spray it out of the windows with the temporary nozzles?


    Regards.
    Hmmm, it seems one door closes and another opens. The onion has many layers....

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    Quote Posted by Citizen No2 (here)
    Ballast systems......... I see.

    So what do they do with the ballast after the test....... spray it out of the windows with the temporary nozzles?
    Made me laugh. (They dump it all out the open door, maybe... c.f. M-Albion-3D's post )

    Ballast systems: yes, that's what they really are. Here's the video. Just 3 minutes long. Worth watching.


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    Default Re: Chemtrail spraying System in detail

    Hello Everyone:
    Thanks for the post!
    Here is a few short clips of just what a supertanker can do. They are spraying fire suppression chemicals. Why can't they spray other chemicals instead? Just saying......
    chancy

    Link:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvBRWTumoZI

    Link:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inNklNCQzfs

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    I think what is clear is that unless you (I) have first-hand experience, there is not a cats-chance-in-hell that we will know what is being sprayed up there.

    An aircraft spraying chemtrails will look no different to any other aircraft operating at those higher altitudes, and use equipment that could just as easily be employed for ballast tests, etc.

    An enigma, wrapped in a conundrum........Posing as the truth.


    I'll ask this to all............ Does anyone here have any information pertaining to German air-force aviation fuel? Harald Kautz-Vella stated that it contained several ingredients that were covered by secrecy laws and nobody outside of the mil/tech/ind loop was allowed to test it.

    Can anyone qualify this?



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    The military planes use JP8, but the thing about JP8 is lots of things can be added to it, like any fuel really.

    Something that caught my eye a while ago If you would like some food for thought .

    http://www.nytimes.com/1998/07/31/bu...ical-deal.html

    The title pretty much says it all, but the interesting thing is Betzdearborn made some of the additives for JP8 & Hercules the new owner since 1998/9 did specialise in water treatment amongst other things.

    Probably a coincidence but worth mention since you asked about fuel spec nato uses.

    With regards to testing, its usually the oil in a unit that is tested not the fuel, for example engine oil so you can get a picture of the condition of the bearings etc.

    Not saying fuel sampling doesn't go on btw, but any sampling of oil or fuel is a long winded affair and takes a while to process so you wouldn't know exactly what was what unless you were told and then directed to use an additive or not.
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