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    This is currently the best graphic I'm able to whip up, for what's called the start of Kali Yuga. The program defaults to Fagan-Bradley offset, which can be changed, but I'm not sure it needs to. Signs in Vedic (clockwise) order.

    We are looking at the normally accepted date of Krishna's death at Balkha Tirtha (pilgrimage site) in Gujarat.

    I have removed western components such as Asc and MC and turned off the aspects, so we have a clear picture only of the "nine grahas", the planets and the moon's nodes. Added the Royal Stars, as we have found, at this time, the Vernal Equinox was at Aldebaran, the Bullseye of Taurus. Aside from the nodes, we are only looking at actual physical objects mapped to each other, there are no abstract signs precessing. Aries simply begins opposite Spica.

    The first thing I noticed, hitting a 5,000 year "rewind" button that supposedly includes various calendar corrections from then to now, variables here and questions of accuracy, I'd say...the Moon showing up within one degree of "day one", the first lunar mansion at the beginning of Mesha-Aries...is noticeable. Jupiter is close enough to be in the same lunar mansion as the Moon.

    It lacks the Sun-Moon conjunction as suggested for the start of a 60 year Shaka, however, having both the Moon and Jupiter essentially in the "start position" seems to carry some weight.

    Also noting Krishna's brother appears to remain the original Hercules or story of labors in the twelve signs, and the constellation Hercules containing the solar apex and central sun.
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    Truth: the One World Religion

    However, it won't include many elements of what's often considered "religion", much in the same way, in the ancient temples, priests were not ministers of religion, so much as philosophers. And philosophy is not "love of wisdom", so much as "wisdom of love".

    We would say there is not a "my truth" and "your truth" but just "the truth", in the same way it is not really correct to speak of "my spirit" and "your spirit" but just "the spirit". There is One for everybody--invisible without the "wisdom of love".

    "Satyan nasti paro dharmah" is the motto of the Theosophical Society, usually given as "No religion higher than truth", and maybe this is the most basic or immediate meaning: to let go of belief in the face of truth.

    The words are arranged grammatically backwards from English: Than truth, is not, higher than, religion or law. Dharma(h) here is given as religion or law; whereas in Buddhism, it does have a much higher meaning, it also has mundane meanings as in "barbarian dharma", referring to religions of invaders.

    However, "Satyan" is not merely "than truth", it is "than Sat". Not simply truth in words and facts; but facts valued primarily for their usefulness in moral development; with "Sat" on its own plane being "the one form of existence".

    This motto was taken from the Raja of Benares. These Rajas, known as the Narayan Dynasty, descend from Maharishi Gautama (Rig Veda), as does the Buddha called Gautama. To this day, the Rajas are religious chiefs considered to be (incarnations of) Shiva. The one living during the Theosophical era was Ishwari Prasad Narayan Singh, who, at age 13, did not revolt in the Sepoy Mutiny, and was promoted to the rank of Maharaja Bahadur, which, if that sounds familiar, his son married the daughter of the first Prime Minister of Nepal, Jang Bahadur. Bahadur means "higher than". The motto doesn't use this word; paro could be "higher than", but perhaps more in the sense of "beyond" or "other than".

    So whereas dharma does have a legitimate meaning as human-created, and so possibly inferior or false, truth or law, I am not aware if Sat has any context outside of purity. The closest thing to a true religion, one for all, is meditation towards the higher self, as described for instance in Advayataraka Upanishad, as to find this higher self is to find the reflection of Sat. Things which help this, such as Patanjali's treatise on quietening mental transformations, are true; things which hinder or obscure, are not.

    There is no dharma other than Sat. Dharmas which conflict with Sat are false. Dharmas in the Buddhist sense which refer to higher truth are not different or other than Sat. The truth of Sat is perceived in samadhi, and the only real religion is the mental and behavioral processes which lead to samadhi.

    That belief is not binding on anyone. It won't be established or enforced, merely available.

    The Rajas also have the title "Kashi Naresh", Kashi being the ancient kingdom at Benares. This area is demonstrably a conflux of Rajput, Buddhist, and Jain groups, along with Vedic culture. Deer Park is nearby. Exactly how, or why, the T. S. doesn't have a new or original motto, but chose to copy this, again seems to reflect the utter lack of new and original things they wished to project on ancient wisdom. Yet it does appear to reflect the idea of an original, non-sectarian core teaching, assimilated in some way by those various traditions who assembled at Benares.

    HPB got the 60 year cycles from a Trans-Himalayan Matha (Hindu monastery). Using material by Vriddha Garga. So far, what I have found, is two chapters included in Yuga Purana. Most of the extant manuscripts are considered incomplete and/or different from each other. Perhaps there is a full, valid copy out there, although it seems another instance where she learned from an original that is unavailable to the eyes of the public. The importance of the 60 year cycle is probably less about the civil cycle, that is, a king could start one if he did things like amortize all debt, and more towards the natural one as the basis for circle math and time cycles experienced on Earth.

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    Chandravamsa & Aswini

    Within the Puranas are found Solar and Lunar dynasties. Krishna, generally considered an avatar of Vishnu (solar), is placed in the Lunar dynasty, Chandravamsa, which would appear nonsensical.

    These dynasties are more allegorical than literal and do not necessarily mean the direct passage of dna from one person to a child, in much the same way if I say that Sasaki Shingichi sensei is my grandfather, it certainly doesn't mean that we are closely physically related.

    We have found that the Samkhya ("enumeration") of Kapila is the first historically known system that says that the root cause of illusion and suffering is mental, and that there is a primarily mental method of liberation. This was praised by Krishna in Bhagavadgita, and is the root of Yoga, the main difference being that the Samkhya works deal more with the underlying facts, and Yoga concentrates more on the methods. This same core continued into Buddha-dharma, which again, is not all that different, until it reveals the Bodhisattva path, which is particularly unique, and, even if it were all a fiction, is probably the noblest ideal to ever flow from the mind of man.

    Chandravamsa includes the kings of Kashi, Krishna, and Buddha, with the interesting merger that Buddha married a daughter of the Suryavamsa or solar race, and she eventually became a bhikshuni or fully-ordained nun in his system. Hence the mothers of such figures, represented as Queens of Heaven, are frequently associated with the moon. And in broad terms, the lunar association of these teachers represents the lunar/lower quarternary/lower self of man--the moon or lower self simply a reflector of the sun or higher self--made one with atma-buddhi.

    In looking at one of the larger "wheels of time", approximately the past 5,000 earth years, I found enough reason to have Mesha-Aries as the first sign. I'm not easy to convince, so, if the "big hand" of Jupiter and the signs makes sense, then, is there an explanation for the "little hand" of the Moon and the lunar mansions starting with Asvini?

    Asvini are Horsemen, twins. The full expression should be Asvini Kumara. The first Theosophical note about them is that they are the most occult and mysterious deities. On one aspect, they are considered physicians or healers; and we may note that, as sacred sciences became more and more hidden, the main thing that was left in the public domain was herbalism and healing. Their other main aspect is in being precursors to dawn.

    In Sanskrit, dawn is known as Ushas, which in Greek is Eos, and in Latin, Aurora. She is probably the most revered goddess in Rig Veda.

    The normal "dawn star" is Shukra Usanas, or Phosphorous and Venus-Lucifer. Krishna told Arjuna that among the Kavi, he is known as Usanas, or he had incarnated as the sage of that name. Shukra is also the Daitya-guru, that is, the teacher of demons--and the man of flesh.

    In one account, Shukra Usanas and Brihaspati Jupiter are brothers, studying under the same teacher (Angirasa). Shukra is more knowledgeable, for example, he masters resurrection (from Shiva), or how to teach people to conquer death; however, Brihaspati wins favoritism, as the teacher is his father. Shukra leaves, to study under Rishi Gautama, and Brihaspati becomes the Deva-guru, or teacher of the gods.

    So, the Asvini are related to Ushas-dawn, which in itself could be a good enough reason to place them first. There is an awesome Rig Veda search tool: http://meluhha.com/rv/

    And you will find Asvini mentioned not just in the third hymn of the oldest book in the world (by academic standards), you will find them over four hundred times. In 8.35 they are invoked using a frequent repetition of the phrase "Accordant of one mind with Surya and Ushas". The final tip from esoteric philosophy is that as Aswini Kumaras, the twins are the reincarnating principles.

    In looking at it that way, twin virgins (Kumaras) would seem to be atma-buddhi, as harbingers of dawn (manas), which is the basic pattern of most esoteric cosmology, for instance in Rig Veda 10.129. In this case, rather than as the basic Samkhya statements, which would use the term purusha and buddhi, they are the beginning, or first day and first minute, on our wheel of finite and conditioned time, which becomes incredibly more complex as it spews out every possible combination of number. Without having in hand the keys to decipher what makes them the "most mysterious", they can, with good reason it seems to me, be placed at the beginning of the cycle.

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    Vyasa and A Very Old Book

    As the Stanzas of Dzyan, its own internal claim as "A Very Old Book" is to have inspired the Books of Hermes, the Chaldean Book of Numbers and the original Kabbala, the original books of Moses, Kanjur and Tanjur, the Shu King--which, even many centuries ago was found to have an "old form" walled up in the house of Confucius--and the Puranas.

    It has done so from the standpoint of being only a few pages of symbols.

    Secret Doctrine, we have found freely rendered by translators, as being in Sanskrit, Upanishad. Because, literally, it means "at the feet of", which directly implies a guru; which indirectly implies the writing is a type of primer, that is only a small picture of an unwritten or secret experience. As a collection of writings, the Upanishads are Vedanta, at the end of the Vedas; veda, as an equivalent of vidya, knowledge, therefor has as its result, the "end" or fulfillment of knowledge, vedanta. Purana simply means ancient, and it is a tradition, not a scripture.

    If we may accept Vyasa as the compiler of the Vedas in their current form, then, at least according to Vishnu Purana, this is the 28th time this has been done.

    However, for the Upanishads, Yogacharya indicates a slightly different origin (though younger) than the Vedas, because here, we find the Brahmins constantly going to Warrior Kings for instruction, thus suggesting the Upanishads arrive from a situation prior to the establishment of Brahmin caste. The Yogacharya testimony is that, originally, the Brahmins attached the full extent of Upanishadic works to the Vedas; over time, they removed most, so that only around twenty are genuine. The secret part was hidden amongst themselves. Buddha had learned the full Upanishads, found it in close agreement with Himalayan sages, and so when he established his own system, Brahmins were in a position to refute him, because of the way the public understood the scriptures.

    Yogacharya follows Krishna and Buddha in denying that the Karma Kanda portion of the Vedas is necessary for spiritual growth. Take away that, and it seems to be fastly obvious that little of the hymns are all that meaningful without the keys, as for example, we may surmise that no one really believed a team of horses picks up the sun and hauls it over our heads. The meter and tone are part of that as well.

    The only one I know is:

    om pūrṇamadaḥ pūrṇamidaṁ pūrṇāt pūrṇamudacyate
    pūrṇasya pūrṇamādāya pūrṇamevāvaśiṣyate


    and that is Upanishadic. So, if we take Yogacharya at face value, it basically says that, the publicly-known Upanishads are incomplete; the full Brahminical version has for centuries been restricted by caste; the Buddhist version is only restricted by personal merit. This bears a strong resemblance to Chandravamsa, and the Sanskrit system from Kapila to Buddha seems quite tangible in the manner described.

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    A Dry Saraswati River

    In traditional karate, we don't use the term "school" or "style" for what we do, it's called a river, as a metaphor for master and students.

    Devi Saraswati of learning and music once gave her name to an ancient river in India, now dry.

    Swami Dayanand Saraswati became a huge embarassing problem for the Founders when they made it to India. Intended as one of their sources of esoteric lore, he became an enemy, and therefor a discrediting factor.

    Whereas many people failed their chelaship for relatively benign imperfections, "D. Swami" was described by Koothoomi as a moral wreck, ruined, and stated the Brotherhood would not let him succeed.

    You can look him up on Wikipedia and find who they say is his guru, whom, I would think, may have been his demise. Essentially, he became a Vedic purist and a Hindu supremacist, which, clearly, is against the aims of the Brotherhood, antiquity of India notwithstanding.

    Prior to that, he *was* initiated and considered a "high chela" at least until his stay at Badrinath temple, 1855, and probably was fine for several years past that. And here we can quickly clarify what Koothoomi considered initiation and chelaship.

    By initiation, here, means into sanyas, or renunciation. The "old" him, Mulji--who was only 24 at the time, which is about twenty years too young--"died", and his new, initiate name was Saraswati, because he was the chela, or "child", of Paramahamsa Swami Purnananda Saraswati of Ujjain. They met in Kalyani. It is an Adwaita lineage from Shankaracharya: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dashanami_Sampradaya

    Unfortunately, that branch of the Saraswati seems to have dried.

    However, and, perhaps, more interestingly, we can find his "brother": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swami_...anda_Saraswati

    There is a case where I believe we could reason, this person has been initiated by an Adept of the same Lodge as HPB and remained in good standing. Far from obscure, he was not only the advisor to Kashi Naresh, he also instructed Madame David-Neel, and was apparently known by Mark Twain and...Jang Bahadur of Nepal.

    One of the things that is apparent to me is that it must have been obvious to the Mahachohan that, as transportation advanced, foreigners would be learning all sorts of strange new things about India, and that eventually, all sorts of Hindus would be going abroad to preach whatever was on their mind. Therefor I believe it was of immense concern to them to make a sort of primordial stamp on the information that would surface. Now, how you make an 18,000 verse Purana from a few pages of symbols, I am not sure, but seeing as how Indian literature is so vast--it was important to make a selective view which emphasized those things the Masters believed reflected their views. A person who is able to quickly find the main core continuum has a massive headstart over the type of person looking at an array of foreign gobbledygook which they assume to be fairy tales. Or a too dense, or too religious approach.

    For instance, looking around I found something like "Intro to Buddhist Ethics" which is at least three hundred pages. Well, any good set of ethics will be fine, and I think they could be described quicker than that. Or I see one of the earlier translations of Bhagavadgita, which calls it "The Lord's Song" and consistently renders deva as god and yoga as religion. Esoteric philosophy would be buried forever under all that bulk in the same way the caste system did it.

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    Quote Esoteric philosophy would be buried forever under all that bulk in the same way the caste system did it.
         
    that is the way i presently feel, burried forever under the bulk of Indian names and twists applied to Theosophy, or is it?
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    Ultimately yes, it is heavily Indian colored. Primarily because Sanskrit is a small step from Indo-European language; the root of a great deal of English today; yet English lacks any terms for very ancient concepts such as samadhi. Also, the Sanskrit language itself is magical; i. e., the right notes and rhythms produce lights; another secret.

    The neo-Platonists called themselves Theosophists, which was the final period of the Brotherhood's "open" schools in the west. All of the Greek teachings were based on Sanskrit, so for example Eos is a direct cognate of Ushas; it's the same name because it is the same thing. And so when we find Greek terms being employed, we have to "re-learn" these in their original, classical sense. That is why Ego is the true individual, soul, instead of ego as Freud meant it. Chaos refers to primordial matter, not social unrest. Eros is not about sex. The Brotherhood never experienced a time of using these words any other way.

    The Sanskrit version has not changed while empires were blown to dust. That one mantra I posted is an infinite loop that's been running for thousands of years, if not longer. You can hear it in thousands of places right now if you listen carefully (Shanti Mantra).

    Was there a "yogi craze" that started in the 1900s, sure...much of it being a sort of Christianized Hinduism, some a type of fakery, as it is in India. If we know the original system, we can see through it. Even such as Suddha Dharma Mandala, if one wishes to see an Indian "Alice Bailey", who, ironically, did not get an answer when she tried to join.

    Koothoomi and HPB were using English as approximately their *fifth* language to describe their system. They learned my language, in order for me to be able to make connections, in Sanskrit, from Kashi Naresh, to Chandravamsa, to the Upanishads, to Nepal and specific disciples, that I have not seen anyone make in any literature whatsoever. Maybe someone has, but I have never seen any notice that...adopting the motto of the Maharajah of Benares...amounts to anything. But a fairly precise picture seems to be emerging there.

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    Kashi-Benares-Varanasi

    Damodar was the most successful chela of the Theosophical system. In only a few years, he changed from a weak, effeminate guy to a robust, confident one, and went to live with the Masters in Tibet.

    This is what HPB (Kunala) taught him as they were walking around Benares:

    "...every really ancient building in the whole collection had been constructed with the view to putting into imperishable stone, the symbols of a very ancient religion. Kunala, he says, told him, that although the temples were made when no supposition of the ordinary people of those eras leaned toward the idea that nations could ever arise who would be ignorant of the truths then universally known, or that darkness would envelop the intellect of men, there were many Adepts then well known to the rulers and to the people. They were not yet driven by inexorable fate to places remote from civilization, but lived in the temples, and while not holding temporal power, they exercised a moral sway which was far greater than any sovereignty of earth. And they knew that the time would come when the heavy influence of the dark age would make men to have long forgotten even that such beings had existed, or that any doctrines other than the doctrine based on the material rights of mine and thine, had ever been held. If the teachings were left simply to either paper or papyrus or parchment, they would be easily lost, because of that decay which is natural to vegetable or animal membrane. But stone lasts, in an easy climate, for ages. So these Adepts, some of them here and there being really themselves Maha Rajahs, (King or Ruler) caused the temples to be built in forms, and with such symbolic ornaments, that future races might decipher doctrines from them. In this, great wisdom, he says, is apparent, for to have carved them with sentences in the prevailing language would have defeated the object, since languages also change, and as great a muddle would have resulted as in the case of the Egyptian hieroglyphics, unless a key stone had also been prepared; but that itself might be lost, or in its own turn be unintelligible. The ideas underneath symbols do not alter, no matter what might be the language, and symbols are clear immortally, because they are founded in nature itself. In respect to this part of the matter, he writes down that Kunala informed him that the language used then was not Sanscrit, but a far older one now altogether unknown in the world." (Diary)

    A little bit further on, she possessed him, which he watched from outside his body, and she told him that ghosts do the exact same thing, although sometimes they may only capture a leg or hand.

    In describing the northward retreat of the adepts:

    "They do not generally stop in one place, but always shift from one place to another. They, however, all meet together on certain days of the year in a certain place near Bhadrinath, in the northern part of India. He reminded me that as India's sons are becoming more and more wicked, those adepts have gradually been retiring more and more toward the north, to the Himalaya mountains."

    "...told me of the benevolence of not only Brahmin Yogees, but also of Buddhist. No differences can be observed by the true disciple in any other disciple who is perhaps of a different faith. All pursue truth. Roads differ but the goal of all remains alike.

    Repeated three times: 'Time ripens and dissolves all beings in the great self, but he who knows into what time itself is dissolved, he is the knower of the Veda.' "

    To look at, for example, Dayanand Sarasvati, you see that exact picture, wandering around Badrinath, finding all kinds of yogis and sages. In his case, it is almost necessary to conclude that Swami Purnanand represented the same order as Koothoomi, who himself was Damodar's guru. In his personal reply to the question, whether his guru was the elderly Kuthumba Lama some people met in Tibet, he said no, because there was only one who held a well-known public office under the Tashi (Panchen) Lama. He then states that the Kauthumpas, or Kethumbas, were other disciples of his master.

    In his article Vedantasara, Damodar stated the same argument that esoteric Samkhya, Adwaita, and Buddhism are the same thing: http://www.universaltheosophy.com/ar...e-vedantasara/

    The simplest, most profound and direct historical knowledge, or the public branches of the esoteric lodge, can be boiled down fairly quickly. One need not take every Purana, every Greek myth, Zoroastrianism and the Popol Vuh and cross compare them.

    Prasthana Traya is a complete, miniature, Adwaita literary canon. It consists only of the Upanishads, Bhagavadgita, and Brahmasutra Bhashya (commentary) by Sankaracharya, or any ancient Brahma Sutra.

    If you have Samkhya + Prasthana Traya, you have the core. Buddhism is a continuation, changing some things like dismissing extreme asceticism; also it is very pronounced about the way of the heart. The significance of Buddha's title Tathagata, "he went this way before", is to say that every level of consciousness or depth of samadhi we may find, he has already done so, and is the greatest guide. Thus it is the same yoga as taught by its most proficient adept.

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    The other day I noticed an interesting statement from a modern inhabitant of Benares. He said that when he visits another city, he says he is from Benares. When he visits a city outside of (the state of) Uttar Pradesh, he says he is from Varanasi. When he visits other temples, especially ones with a siva ling, he says he is from Kashi.

    It was a very relevant area for the life of the Buddha and his early followers. I recall a Lovecraft story, "The Doom that Came to Sarnath". I don't remember what happened, but Sarnath is an area near there inhabited by Buddha's followers until about the tenth century. The doom that came is that it was taken over by Kapalikas and Aghoris. If you look into those, I believe this is what he called "The Forbidden Corpse-Eating Cult of Leng".

    Another place that appears to be valid relates to the whimsical incident Koothoomi says happened "in the neighborhood" of "Pari-Yong". In this case I'd maintain he is near what we would call Paryang, the highest town in the world, last stop before Mt. Kailasa. This area is mostly sand waste occasionally dotted with small villages adorned with animal skulls. He had stopped at the "gun-pa" (Gompa, or a sort of triple fortress-university-monastery) of a friend. Looking at this region and tourist tales of complete dread, it does not sound like most of what we would call, stopping by to see a friend, but ok.

    In that area is a place called Dradun or Tradun Gompa. Its lineage is Sakyapa. This line was founded ca. year 1,000, not long after the doom of Sarnath, and you may note it has remained in one family for a millenium. Therefor, we can see what kind of friend are meant, and a bit of the "northward retreat" of the adepts.

    As some kind of Gelug-pa officer, obviously, he is not bound by any rules or limitations about competing or rival schools.

    He was walking across the courtyard listening to Lama Ton-dhub Gyatcho and had dropped the mail instead of getting it into his bag. A goat started eating the letter; from which he rescued a minority. A flash went through his mind to ask Chohan's permission to restore it. Instead, the Chohan manifested and did it himself.

    "Now I know what great power had to be used for such a restoration, and this leads me to hope for a relaxation of severity one of these days. Hence I thanked the goat heartily; and since he does not belong to the ostracised Peling race, to show my gratitude I strengthened what remained of teeth in his mouth, and set the dilapidated remains firmly in their sockets, so that he may chew food harder than English letters for several years yet to come." (54)

    He gave a firm clue about the power of observation at a distance, which relates to the issue that science can only make limited progress until accepting that matter is alive and affected by consciousness. Because the following feats are impossible and easy to disprove. The occult light, physically, he says, is seen when at will, our vision can decompose solar light into fourteen prismatic colors.

    Seven, known, and seven being complementary, accidental, or subjective. Those terms all relate to negative after-images. For instance, if you stare at a red circle, then if you look at a blank area, you will see a green circle.

    Science really has no clue what a "red" circle "is". Only that a certain vibration moves through space. The "red" is really made by the brain. "Color" derives from words meaning "to cover, conceal"...the "occult" is concealed.

    Some studies suggest that when detecting strong red wavelengths, weak green ones happen as well. The strong waves are of a nature that when the stimulus stops, the response stops very quickly. However, the weak waves form a harmonic resonance, and so the faint green circle actually appears immediately with the red one, however it is not visible due to the power difference; then the longer you look, the more resonance it builds, and the after-image gets correspondingly longer and stronger.

    I am not sure if he means we should be able to see an "after-image" spectrum simultaneously with the "powerful" one, but, this kind of vision is how to see others at a distance.

    By a similar act of will, he describes speech at a distance as the use of consciousness to make a tube of purified air, through which the voice may travel faster than "the speed of sound" and strikes the ear as reflection or echo. It sounds a little less like the whisper chambers we know how to make, and a little more like fiber optics. The conditions of making purified air are destroyed by most human beings, and this has to do with what they call "setting up conditions" for communication.

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    Leng?

    Within about 100 years of Buddha's passing, there became a sort of split between the monasteries and the Greater Assembly (lay people). Monasteries wanted to reserve enlightenment for male monks, and the Greater Assembly felt otherwise. This Greater Assembly is known as Mahasamghika. HPB and the Masters referred to an original, Sanskrit Buddhism in Nepal. Nobody thought much of it. It is both a real thing, and it is also true that Nepali, or Newar Buddhism, does not even use a monastic system.

    You may now see a project revealing this material. The description will explain the same thing about Brian Hodgson, and the texts are all in Sanskrit: http://www.dsbcproject.org/pages/a-s...st-manuscripts

    Sanskrit Buddhism merged with Tantric Yoga of the "Mahasiddha" or "Great Adept" era, which became Vajrayana and Anuttara Yoga, and Nath outside of Buddhism. A Yoga of great abilities said to emanate from Siddha Ashram, or Siddhashram, the Sanskrit name for Shamballa. Mahasiddhas included non-monk wanderers, called in Tibetan, Ngakpa. If Koothoomi and Morya were Buddhists, not monks, but highly developed in yoga, then they were Mahasiddhas or Ngakpas, depending on which side of the border.

    During the formative years of Buddhism, amongst the Hindus, a "new" Veda was added. Originally there were three. The newer Atharva Veda contains numerous destructive spells. Theoretically they were intended to fight demons.

    In Kerala there came to be a caste called Nambudiri Brahmins. These began to employ the spells in a wicked manner. One may find Abhicara (hexcraft) and Chathan Seva practiced there to this day. These beliefs became the source of the Kapalikas and Aghoris mentioned previously. This is what is called Vamacara or Vamamarga "The Left Hand Path" and dangerous forms of Hatha Yoga.

    Padmasambhava and Shankaracharya lived at, approximately, the same time, ca. 800. At that point, Kashmir had actually conquered most of India. Because of that, some of the Nambudiri were installed in Jammu and Kashmir. This is the area where Padmasambhava was from, and it is said that he gained Vamacara from them, similar to the Kapalikas. His is the system of Samantabhadra that HPB warned of. And it is part and parcel of Tibetan Buddhism (Nyingmapa).

    Shankaracharya, on the other hand, was from Kerala, and most likely actually was a Nambudiri. However, there was a point where he fought with or repudiated them. And these days they particularly hate him.

    Within about 300 years after Padmasambhava, due to war, the Nyingmapa presence was greatly reduced in Tibet. Contemporaneously, the Sakyapa presence arose, in the Lamdre' line from Virupa, a Mahasiddha in India. Its leaders are Ngakpa. It was upon this foundation that the later Gelugpa and Jonangpa came to be. In this way, the pure Vajrayana of Sanskrit Buddhism became Tibetan, unsullied by left hand practices. In its ideal of Bodhisattva, or "knower of sattva", there is the same concept of sattva from Samkhya. "Sattva" has evolved from a basic description, through all the methods of yoga, into something, that is, someone, who lives forever. The teaching has moved from the exclusive hands of priests and warrior kings; in India, Shankaracharya opened the Ekadandin order to sudras (workers) and dalits (untouchables). Buddha's system was available to lay persons and the monasteries would take orphans if need be. Now we may learn it with having no tangible connection. That is not as good as participating, but it is much better than wrong knowledge.
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    In having posted the previous, then there remains a reason why the Masters would perhaps be a bit disturbed at the label of Mahasiddha or Ngakpa, and, instead, were referred to by the older term, Mahatma. And that is because in the former terms, there is not any distinction about the Left Hand.

    Some of the basic problems about Padmasambhava, are, firstly, he will generally be called the "founder" of Tibetan Buddhism (which is not remotely true), and so then if he as seen as a "Prophet" of the whole thing, then it is easy to develop an anti-Buddhist point of view. Or, if one takes a sympathetic approach, then one begins to justify the Vamacara practices.

    It is obvious he included the trident symbol carried from Kapalika-type tantra. Also, to take an honest and thorough look at his nature, one would have to question if he had the heart doctrine of love to all beings, or if he was a drunkard, necrophiliac, rapist, and so on.

    The main reason that leads me to develop this particular thread, and/or that I would say makes me any different from the average person, is about four years of samadhi-kundalini-auric vision. Which I believe that I described intentionally stopping it. I did not study and practice the ability; I just started doing it, and that is what made me read about it.

    Because that included everything "new age" and every possible piece of eastern wisdom, what happened...I was heavily stamped by both Padmasambhava and Alice Bailey. What does that make me...a high chela of the Left Hand Path.

    I did not know that at the time, so I did not, have not, and will not "repent". Instead, the prolonged experience of being...under those teachers...made me feel that something was wrong or incomplete about it. I see that as fairly conclusively demonstrated.

    This is why, through considerable and exhaustive analysis, I have come to agree with the Mahatma version of Yogacharya, and therefor, having only one Messenger, it is important to distinguish that message from the myriads of others. It may be easy to get swamped in the details, but, traced as a core through Sanskrit culture into Tibet, it is exactly what it says it is. I believe it would have been much more beneficial to have this one message plainly available, than to have endured the psychological trainwrecking of every possible alternative.

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    Default Re: The Serpent, the Black Sun, HPB & St. Germain

    Having traced the main or relevant lines of yoga, it is, of course, a gross oversimplification. In almost all cases, we are looking at an oral transmission which was only later put in writing. Same is true of the Vedas. Originally, a person would spend all day learning & memorizing a hymn, and maybe in the evening discuss the meaning of them. There are a *lot* of hymns. That method must be, comparatively, quite slow.

    And in almost all cases, yoga and Buddhism evolved by debate. The point of Buddhism, then, has a lot to do with the fastest and most direct methods to assist the seeker in achieving the highest union.

    The "original" Buddhism was not exactly Sanskrit, it was Magadhi, which at the time was its own kingdom, Magadha. Now this is somewhat towards eastern India in modern Bihar and Bengal. These areas were not as heavily beset with Brahmins, so, it wasn't really a rejection or overthrow of them, it was mostly independent, and should not be seen as anti-Vedic.

    But in these areas it did not move or waver for about 1,700 years, and produced the Taxila & Nalanda university systems, which were Sanskrit institutions, the focus of the Mahasiddha activity, and the source of the Vajrayana systems that entered Tibet around the year 1,000. They were then utterly demolished by Mughal invasions around 1,200. So at that point, it did remain only in Nepal and other places where it had migrated.

    Most of those lines can be found as a direct descent and perhaps evolution of Buddhism, until we get to the Kalachakra.

    It had no publicly-known or exoteric existence until ca. 1,000. Superficially, then, it could be denied that it had anything to do with Buddha himself.

    Its own legend states that it was held in the complete, or Mulakalachakra form, by King Suchandra of Shamballa. Which was beyond the River Sati, or, approximately, Turkestan. He received it in Amaravati in south India. While Buddha was giving Prajnapramita at Vulture Peak in Rajgriha, he simultaneously manifested in Amaravati. When he did this, he emanated a three-dimensional thing called: Mandala of the Mansions of the Moon. Suchandra either was physically living there, or he also projected from the northern Shamballa to listen. Whatever happened, it remained in his line for about 1,500 years, until making its way into Buddhism in an abridged form, via the Mahasiddhas of Nalanda University.

    I never paid attention to it, because you see the Dalai Lama going around giving it to thousands of people who are hearing about it for the first time, so I figured it was nothing particularly esoteric or useful to someone highly developed in yoga.

    At this point in time, not only can it be conclusively demonstrated that HPB was initiated into Kalachakra, this is becoming standard information amongst the Buddhists themselves. And that will cause it to be increasingly widely represented on the internet, which I have found to be at least 90% full of those theories that make her responsible for the "new age" or place her in the "Jewish-Masonic" conspiracy theory, etc.

    For example, in this very encyclopedia, in its category of Kalachakra links, under Stanzas of Dzyan, one may find the same information: http://www.chinabuddhismencyclopedia...ory:Kalachakra

    So Kalachakra is the public version of what HPB and her Masters guided us to. The difference being that, this particular Brotherhood, not only holds the full or root Mulakalachakra, it has done so from the standpoint of holding the root symbols that have inspired almost all of the systems, as cast in stone at Kashi, which goes back many thousands years, to the extent of what anyone would call history.

    According to her, exoteric Buddhism is full of blinds and superstitions. By custom, they are largely obliged to honor Padmasambhava. It is entirely likely that the public perceptions of the Dalai & Panchen Lamas as Bodhisattvas Avalokiteshvara and Amitabha may not be literally true. In most cases, one should probably estimate that the Chohans, or Secret Chiefs, and the Bodhisattvas that they are the chelas or "children of", are either outright hermits, or tucked away in relatively reclusive places in Tibet. So these have almost nothing to do with society; that is in the hands of the Mahatmas who serve them, who in their turn, are not limited to any particular Buddhist sect, and of course look for their chelas amongst Brahmins, Adwaitees, Jains, Taoists, or any situation that has done a good job of advancing spirituality.

    Keeping in mind that they are not going to suddenly arise and claim to be the World Spiritual Government, etc., what has happened?

    In all likelihood, the 20th century was a time of people utterly flailing around, trying to Christianize everything, or demand performances of magical power...which caused it to take 100 years for the actual "core" of Theosophy to be vindicated...just as HPB said it would. There was no new "message" at this time, other than the confirmation that she did not invent anything, but only presented what she was allowed to, of something that is real, which in her time would have been ignored as a meaningless heathen superstition.

    I hope this means that, for the people who come after me, it will be much easier for them to find the direct path, the one that is certain, without doubt or error. Only when this is accomplished could there potentially be another piece from the Mulakalachakra.

    Kalachakra itself, speaks mainly to three "wheels of time": astrology and the personal incarnation, following the obvious maxim of "as above, so below"; and the third wheel representing their interaction, or the stages of the soul's progress in yoga.

    Although I am largely ignorant about it, I am expecting that what may be learned here, is probably much more direct, accurate, and useful, than the Tropical astrology which I still cannot explain, and the elaborate Esoteric Astrology based on it, which I indeed spent many years with, and can only explain by the "authority" of A. B.

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    The above is a photo of a print from a wood block made by Taranatha, a key figure in the Jonang school, which holds the most Kalachakra material, and the Shentong doctrine, which mostly corresponds to the Parabrahm of Adwaita.

    It is, overall, the symbol of Kalachakra, and it is seven letters piled on each other in the Indian Lantsa script, and then three symbols on top. So that immediately calls to mind the Sephiroth/Tree of Life, or what we might call Trinity and Seven Rays.

    The only mantra taught by Theosophy was the well-known: om mani padme hum

    One thing we may notice is that, om, is the "pranava" or root sound of Sanskrit, which is placed at the beginning of the alphabet, although it isn't exactly a letter. The last syllable, hum, is the root syllable of Kalachakra. Aside from its other meanings, it serves as a mnemonic for the whole history of Sanskrit culture with Kalachakra pinned on the end.

    According to Theosophy, the mantra is seven syllables, because it begins as a-um. When I have heard it in Tibetan, it was clearly only six, om. And, for me, anyway, the Tibetan language is a barrier. I know that "pa" means person, so for instance Jonangpa just means Jonang person, but otherwise, I'm almost illiterate. I don't understand what it means to start a word with a combination like rG. Sanskrit is simply much closer to my own language, it adjusts to Roman letters fairly well, and it is not that hard. Without any effort, things just start to adhere; pancha, 5, sapta, 7, nava, 9...a lot of it is close enough to Latin or Greek that it shines.

    That's part of why it seems hugely beneficial that people are digging up more of the old Sanskrit manuscripts. The Tibetan material all started as translations. So to look at Kalachakra currently, you have an incredible mass of text, which in the original is incomprehensible. HPB suggested that a deep delving into all of the Tibetan stuff was not all that useful to the average seeker, unless you are a specialist, such as someone well versed in the language.

    Of course, you can get English renderings of a lot of it. And although there have been some interpolations, additions, and debate processes that altered a portion of it, the majority is considered to be authentic texts. According to the Chohan Lama, it will be entirely useless to you, because everything, every place, person, etc., has at least a double meaning. So if you just had one sentence that says something like, the king of the east wind blew a thousand trumpets in praise of Amitabha, what to us looks like some general kind of poetic fawning, has intricate esoteric meanings veiled in each word.

    According to HPB, Buddha delivered most of his esoteric sermons to the arhats in a cave then known as Sarasvati, later Saptaparna, near Vulture's Peak in Rajgriha. Ceylonese invaders destroyed most of the manuscripts in south India.

    A Tibetan school of Buddhism is exactly that, a complete school, for someone to enter as a child, same as any western educational system. The curriculum is different. For most people, then, it is not even tenable to approach the full thing. Roughly put, yoga is generally taught in three stages; groundwork, path, and completion. I'm going to take a wild guess and surmise that in the 1800s, none of the European Theosophical students were in the completion stage. It's one of those things you get a sense for; I know, because I've done it, which for some reason was automatic and did not require a full exposition of the ground and path stages.

    At that time, one of the obstacles was probably considered to be the extreme use of sexual imagery in tantra, and perhaps the violence of wrathful deities. In India, tantra is in disrepute because it mostly exists only in Vamacara. The difference with Tibet is a much higher presence of the right hand path. It probably would have been hard to explain, at the time, sexual and violent imagery being used by both. At this point, most of us can probably figure out the difference.

    Alexandra David-Neel was almost a complete exoteric reflection of HPB, who became dedicated to the spread of Buddhism. This sort of thing is quite helpful for those who have never heard. However, instead of embarking on a brand new educational process, with esoteric study, we get some fifteen years' worth of advancement and some of the keys of the higher meaning.

    For example, the esoteric meaning of Nirmanakaya is quite different. It has more to do with the death process of the adept, or arhat, paramahamsa...anyone who has reached that level of yoga.

    In one of the exoteric explanations of clear light, it's compared to sneezes and orgasms...you have a phase of "ahhhhhhh", an indrawing of energy, which hits a sort of pinnacle, and then explodes outwardly. That microsecond of pinnacle is the clear light. At death, it is the same, except the outward explosion is total body release. The Gelugs contend that because the clear light of death is not inherently blissful, no clear light is inherently blissful. That is only achieved by a yoga process. At any rate, what the ordinary person experiences mostly unconsciously for a few microseconds, is to be developed by "the path" until achieving tantra (continuity).

    The adept, therefor, has options at the moment of death that are not available to us sneezers. He may continue to live consciously in the astral kama rupa, and thereby retain a connection to earth. One process would allow him to manifest in a semi-material way. The other is to inhabit a new body. I believe this is how they explain a bodhisattva.

    In which case, possibly, if we take a Panchen Lama to be an incarnation of Amitabha, it would not be literally so. The individual is an incarnation of its own spark, monad, or spirit. However, he yields what would normally be his human personality, and at that point, the astral form of Amitabha steps in. Amitabha never dies or goes away, just keeps passing from body to body. This concept is not really any different than any other yogi who does body transference, except, instead of a mere siddha or occult power that can be developed by un-spiritual practices, it is a right hand technique from the heart.

    Knowing what I do of completion stage yoga, I can understand the esoteric perspective that would have helped me a whole lot if I had heard of it when that happened to me. Roughly put, there are secret chambers in the heart, which must become active; when they do, it produces secret lights in the head; and that is the path to the secret chakra above the body. And I must say that the secret chambers do not exist merely because you have a feeling of love and some rising kundalini. Without a proper guru, or, failing that, a very clear explanation of this process, a feeling of love and some rising kundalini is likely to obliterate you.

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    I haven't checked the publication dates to see if this is likely, but, I have a hunch that by "Necronomicon", Lovecraft meant the Tibetan Book of the Dead. Not its actual name (Bardo Thodol), but that's how it was published. If Necronomicon meant "Book of the Names of the Dead", it would have a form of nomos, name. Instead it seems to be "Book of the Laws of the Dead", which is pretty much what that Tibetan thing is. When I encountered it, it seemed real at the core, but not necessarily in its details. The esoteric doctrine states that the Bardo or phases of post-mortem experiences are real, but describes them differently.

    Thus it is a superstition, primarily because, those dead people can't hear you...and if they were going to be liberated, they would do it anyway. Concerning the hospice work we heard about, I believe that is infinitely more useful than trying to preach at someone who's gone.

    So in Tantra Yoga, the ground stage is mostly ethics and philosophy. A high ethical standard is mostly the same anywhere you go; not much need to elaborate. Philosophy can get as detailed and advanced as you like, but it also needs a basic version, because we have to have something to give to orphaned children and illiterate peasants.

    None of that is the path.

    But it will give you an idea that there is a clear light and to meditate on it.

    For most people, I would not suggest anything other than get sri antara, or sri yantra, and use that. If you do it right, then you should start getting some of those harmonic after-image colors. That's safe. It should bring you to what Patanjali calls concentration.

    In traditional karate, we start with a "moment of zen"; relaxation and mental silence. I have always considered the rest of the training as an aspect of concentration. It "turns off" the verbal part or inner dialogue of my mind, while it awakens something that thinks in geometry and motion. It also awakens a form of ichhsakti or will-magic, the "subtle" will at the level of reflexes. Athletes in other disciplines likely have a similar experience.

    But in Tibetan Vajrayoga, you dispense with mandala pictures and you just use space.

    And so, you have to concentrate on a point in space until the clear light comes. You can't think. You have to use that type of concentration that can do sri antara or do athletics as long as it wants. You have to hold it in that "pinnacle of a sneeze" moment until the clear light comes.

    Some people can do this almost immediately; others may have great difficulty. And if you do it, you may say, ah, clear light, that's enlightenment, and be done.

    No, it's just a step on the path.

    So you keep doing it, and if you do it right, the hallucinations will come.

    They will. Most of it is the stuff you're made of.

    At this point, we've reached something that the public could find questionable. Something that some people may have some experience with, but for the most part, we can reasonably estimate it belongs more to the private side of our affairs. It's not something we would suggest people go off and do by themselves. At the same time, we know they inevitably will.

    It's more dangerous, because if people can't take a big step on their own, the vast details of how to operate the hallucinations really do require a guru. It's a little weird and disturbing until you get used to it.

    If you know or you learn how to handle them, and you keep meditating, then the deities will come. They will. Promise.

    And that is when you are going to flee screaming in terror, driven forever mad, just like someone out of an H. P. Lovecraft story.

    This is what I'm pretty serious about. If anything like I just mentioned, seems like something you are experiencing, and it might be getting a bit...slippery...all I can say is get to an authentic Vajrayana master quick. I'm not sure there's any other kind of person in the world that's really going to be able to help you.

    Fortunately, I'm pleased to be able to pass along word that Deer Park at Sarnath and Nalanda University are now both open. It was just a few centuries of murder and black magic, folks. Nothing that couldn't be taken care of.

    https://www.deerpark.in/
    https://www.nalandauniv.edu.in/

    Once you have faced the deities then you are at completion stage. I had to bookmark it there until a more auspicious time. It looks like some very big wheels have turned which had nothing to do with me. In this way it is very auspicious; maybe not as much here in the lands of my Peling kinfolk, admittedly, they haven't listened much.

    I don't recommend that form of meditation to a solitary practitioner at all, because all those things are completely real. Because I know from experience that it is real, I can testify that the resultant samadhi is excellent. However, when someone is truly "shown" what their "mental impediments" are...yes, that can almost literally melt the soul. Or if you get something wrong with kundalini sakti, she can damage your nerves organically or make you very sick. This is not a theory or opinion. It's how it goes when you are on the path.

    This is why we generally prefer for people to think that Buddhism is about Nirvana, because that type of teaching is completely true and completely safe. But it's not complete.

    About the auras, I can't really say much; I really just found it to be an enjoyable effect. I may have mentioned this, but, among well-known people, once I had the honor to listen to Glen Mullin, who had been publishing Buddhist texts for quite some time. He had some of Master's aura sort of mixed in with the regular human one. However, a mere picture of Paramahamsa Yogananda...the one on Autobiography...he has Master's aura. I am not sure he had any particular occult knowledge, but I am persuaded that he is a real Paramahamsa and not just someone given the title.

    Clairvoyance emerges from lucidity. That is completion stage. Once you know the deities and open the secret paths of higher kundalini, you become clairvoyant. That's exactly what it does. You've unveiled reality, at least on the earth plane.

    The path itself is not even spiritual, because I can do it with Vamachara and transport myself into dense matter. Only right hand Mahayana will teach your heart to go to infinity. Only once I can prove to someone better than me that I can take path and emerge with the Vajra-adamantine-indestructible heart, then perhaps it could be spiritual.

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    Book of Lamrim

    This is intended to reduce lengthy searching.

    I am not a fan of slapping anything down as "scripture" and enforcing it on anyone, but this really is a very direct explanation. This will show that Mahayana is not a 15th century theory stacked on another theory. It is the core or root text of the whole thing.

    Bodhipathapradipa, A Lamp for the Path to Awakening, was written by Atisha, ca. year 1,000, at Nalanda I believe. In Tibetan, Byang chub lam gyi sgron ma. I can't be positive, but I am pretty sure that "Byang chub" was rendered "Chang chub" by the Theosophists. It explains the path as given to three levels of people; the average, seeking happiness within the world, leading to a higher rebirth or rebirth in a superior heaven, considered the goal of most non-Buddhist religions. Next is the Nirvana level, as most Buddhism is practiced, which leads to Pratyekabuddha, same as HPB said. Third is the Bodhisattva teaching, which leads to Samyakasambuddha, exactly as she said.

    If you read this in any other way, each school of Buddhism does have their own elaborations and commentaries. I feel it is important to have available in "root" form so no one has to deal with my interpretation, the veils of HPB, or the later versions that may lead to sectarian squabbling. It's a decent English version, except for the words that have no English equivalents, left in Sanskrit terms which are quite common with minor study.

    Before proceeding, it is best to take clear light, or at least a moment of Zen. And because I do not want to be ramming scripture down anyone's throat, the traditional way to show proper respect is:

    Thus have I heard:

    "HOMAGE

    1. I prostrate with immense respect to all the Victorious Ones Of the three times as well as to their Dharma and the Sangha. Upon the urging of my good disciple Jangchup Ö, I shall illuminate the lamp for the path to enlightenment.

    THREE TYPES OF PERSONS

    2. Know that there are three kinds of persons— Lesser, middling, and supreme. I shall write clearly distinguishing Each of their characteristics.
    3. Those who by whatever means Pursue for their own sake Merely the pleasures of samsara Are known as the lowest persons.
    4. Turning their backs on worldly pleasures,
    And spurning all acts that are misdeeds, Those who seek peace for just themselves Are called the middling persons.
    5. Those persons who, from the suffering In their own being, truly wish To fully end all miseries Of others are supreme.
    6. For those great beings who desire Supreme enlightenment, I shall explain the perfect methods That the gurus taught.

    AROUSING BODHICHITTA

    7. Facing a painting of the Buddha
    And so forth, a stupa, and the True [Dharma], Make offerings of flowers, scents, And all the things you own
    8. As well as the seven offerings Taught in Samantabhadra’s prayer. Resolving to never turn back till The essence of enlightenment,

    GOING FOR REFUGE

    9. Have sincere faith in the Three Jewels, Kneel down with one knee on the ground, Then join your palms, and first of all Go three times for refuge.
    10. Beginning with an attitude Of loving-kindness for them all, Regard all sentient beings who suffer In the three lower realms or else From birth and such or death and so forth.
    11. Wishing to liberate all beings From the suffering of suffering, From sufferings, and their reasons, Arouse the irreversible Resolve to attain enlightenment.
    12. In the Gaṇḍavyūha Sutra, Maitreya has explained in full The qualities of thus arousing Aspirational bodhichitta.
    13. Read sutras or else listen to a lama, And learn the limitless qualities of the mind Of perfect enlightenment. Then as a reason, Repeatedly rouse bodhichitta thus.
    14. Here I will cite three verses from The Sutra Requested by Viradatta That briefly summarize its merits As they have been taught.
    15. “If the merit of bodhichitta Were to have a form, It would fill all the realms in space And yet be even greater.
    16. “If someone were to fill with jewels As many buddha realms As there are sand grains in the Ganges
    And offer them to the buddhas,
    17. “The offering of someone who Joined palms and imagined bowing To enlightenment would be far greater, For it does not have any limits.”
    18. After rousing aspirational bodhichitta, Always enhance it with abundant efforts. To remember it in other births as well, Properly keep it as has been explained.

    VOWS: RESTRAINT FROM NEGATIVE DEEDS

    19. Without the vow of engaged bodhichitta, Perfect aspiration will not grow. You want the wish for enlightenment to grow, So surely make the effort to take the vow.
    20. If you continually maintain a vow— One of the seven pratimoksha vows
    Or else another—you’ve the fortune for The bodhisattva vow, not otherwise.
    21. Among the seven kinds of pratimoksha, In explanations by the Tathāgata, The glory of chaste conduct is supreme: This is intended as the bhikshu vows.
    22. Take the vow through the ritual Described in the chapter on discipline Of The Bodhisattva Levels from A good, well-qualified lama.
    23. One skilled in the vow ceremony, A person who lives by the vow And has the patience and compassion To give the vows, is a good lama.
    24. In case you are unable to find Such a lama despite your efforts, I’ll properly explain another Ritual to take the vow.
    25. Here I shall clearly write of how When he was Ambarāja long ago Manjushri aroused bodhichitta As was described within The Sutra Of the Array of Qualities Of Manjushri’s Buddha Realm.
    26. “In the presence of the guardians, I make the resolve of bodhichitta. I invite all beings as my guests—
    27. “From this day on till I achieve Supreme enlightenment, I’ll have no thoughts of malice, anger, Stinginess, or envy.
    28. “I’ll cultivate chaste conduct and Give up wrongdoing and desire. With joy in the vows of discipline, I’ll train in following the buddhas.
    29. “I’ll take no delight in quickly gaining Enlightenment for myself. With just one being as a reason, I’ll stay until the end of time.
    30. “I’ll purify inconceivable, Limitless numbers of realms. I’ll be remembered by my name, Which will remain in the ten directions.

    DISCIPLINE TO MAINTAIN THE VOWS

    31. “In every way I’ll purify My deeds of body and speech. I’ll cleanse my mental acts as well— I shall do nothing unvirtuous.”
    32. The cause of a pure body, speech, and mind Is to keep the vow of engaged bodhichitta. Practicing the three trainings of discipline well, Your respect for the three trainings will be great.
    33. Thus effort at the [Bodhi]sattva’s vows For pure and perfect awakening Perfects the accumulations for Complete enlightenment.
    34. All the buddhas say the cause Of perfecting the accumulations Whose natures are merit and pristine wisdom Is to develop clairvoyances.
    35. Just as a bird whose wings aren’t fledged Cannot fly in the sky, Without the powers of clairvoyance, One cannot benefit beings.
    36. The merits that those with clairvoyance Attain in one day and night Aren’t gained in even a hundred lives By those who do not have it.
    37. Those who wish to swiftly complete The accumulations for perfect bodhi Accomplish the clairvoyances Through effort, not through laziness.
    38. Without achieving shamatha, Clairvoyances will not occur. Thus make repeated efforts to Accomplish shamatha.

    TRAINING IN SHAMATHA

    39. If the requisites for shamatha Are lacking, one might meditate Tenaciously for thousands of years But never accomplish samadhi.
    40. Thus maintain well the requisites
    Taught in the Requisites for Samadhi. On any of the focuses, Rest your mind on virtue.
    41. When yogis achieve shamatha, They also gain clairvoyances. Without the training in transcendent wisdom, The obscurations cannot be removed.

    TRAINING IN VIPASHYANA

    42. Thus, to abandon all the obscurations— The cognitive along with the afflictive— Meditate continually on the yogas Of transcendent wisdom with its means.
    43. Wisdom without the skillful means And means that lack the wisdom Are bondage, it is said, and thus Don’t discard either one.
    44. To eliminate any doubts about What wisdom is and what means are, I’ll clarify the difference Between skillful means and wisdom.
    45. Apart from the transcendent wisdom, All of the virtuous qualities
    Such as transcendent generosity Are means, explained the Victor.
    46. Those beings who meditate on wisdom Swiftly achieve enlightenment By cultivating means, not just By meditating on selflessness.

    REALIZING EMPTINESS BY REASONING

    47. Wisdom is taught to be the knowing Of inherent emptiness That realizes the aggregates, Elements, and sense bases don’t arise.
    48. It is not logical for the existent To arise, nor for the nonexistent Such as sky flowers. Both faults would apply, So that which is both has no arising either.
    49. Things do not arise from themselves, Nor from another, nor from both, Nor without cause, and for that reason Inherently they have no nature.
    50. Or else when analyzing whether All dharmas are single or multiple, No essence is observed and thus They’re ascertained to have no nature.
    51. The logics in the Seventy Verses, Root Middle Way, and other texts Explain how it’s established that The nature of all things is emptiness.
    52. Because this text would be too long, I’ve not elaborated here. But for the sake of meditation I’ve merely taught the tenets they prove.
    53. Therefore the natures of all dharmas Cannot be not observed and thus Meditating on selflessness Is meditating on wisdom.
    54. Just as wisdom sees no nature Of any phenomenon at all, Meditate with the logics taught On wisdom itself, free of thought.

    RESULTS OF MEDITATING ON VIPASHYANA

    55. The character of this existence, Born from thought, is thought. Therefore abandoning all thought Is the supreme nirvana.
    Accordingly, the Bhagavan has also said:
    56. “Thought—the great ignorance—makes us Fall into the ocean of samsara. Resting in thought-free samadhi, Nonthought is clear as the sky.”
    From The Dharaṇi of Entering Nonthought as well:
    57. “When the victors’ children, without thought, Contemplate True Dharma, They transcend thoughts so hard to escape And eventually achieve nonthought.”
    58. Once you are certain from the scriptures And logic that all phenomena Have no arising and no nature, Meditate without thoughts.
    59. Thus as you meditate on suchness, Warmth and so forth are gained in turn. Then you’ll achieve the Truly Joyous— It won’t be long till Buddhahood.

    THE VAJRAYANA PATH

    60. If you wish to easily perfect The accumulations for enlightenment Through pacifying, enriching, and the other Activities achieved from mantra’s power
    61. And through the power of the eight great siddhis Of accomplishing the fine vase and so forth— If you wish to practice the secret mantra Taught in the action, conduct, and other tantras—
    62. Then to receive the empowerment Of the vajra master, please the guru With service and offerings of wealth As well as by carrying out commands.
    63. When a guru who is pleased bestows The full empowerment of the master, Your misdeeds will all be purified; You’ll have the fortune to gain the siddhis.
    64. The great tantra of the primordial buddha Emphatically prohibits it, So the celibate should never take The secret and wisdom empowerments
    65. If those who practice celibacy Had those empowerments And did what is prohibited, The vows of discipline would be broken
    66. And the practitioners would incur A downfall that is a defeat. They’d fall into the lower realms— Accomplishment would elude them.
    67. For those who’ve received the master empowerment Or who have known suchness, there’s no fault In teaching or listening to any tantra, Performing a fire puja, offering, or so forth.
    68. Upon the supplication of Jangchup Ö, I, the Elder Dipaṅkara Śrī, Explained in brief the path of enlightenment As I’ve seen taught in sutras and other Dharma."

    This concludes The Lamp for the Path to Enlightenment written by the great master Dipaṅkara Śrī Jñāna. It was translated and finalized by the great Indian abbot himself and the great translator and editor Geway Lodrö. This Dharma was written in the Tholing Temple in Zhang Zhung.

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    Full Circle

    Listen~

    Not to anything artificial, just to the universe.

    This is why there is arctic air and snow occupying most of the U. S.; it may be the manifestation of a bodhisattva, or perhaps the birth of a virtuous lama; I know it not. But I can tell you there's something.

    I am no Kalachakra initiate, nor have I even the text to go by. I am just starting with its core symbols.

    I see the open gate which is a circle of continuity, sort of the Western opportunity to open the veil somewhat, and perhaps adjust the balance with the more powerful Eastern tradition and practice.

    Having indicated the seriousness of one's own deities, and not knowing, myself, how to practice beyond the point of facing them.

    The Western persons who are likely to succeed on the path are those who, from Wicca, or some other branch similar to that, have practiced Casting a Circle and Invoking the Watchtower Guardians.

    And this is a particular invitation especially to those solitary witches, people maybe somewhat like me, who always felt they were connected to something without the whole thing ever clicking. Soldiering on as best you can.

    You may not have done much Tibetan meditation. In order to proceed, it would be best to forego the Circle ritual as you have learned it, until you have the experience as they describe with bare space. There is no other way.

    When one has faced and assembled the deities, the completion, then, will be quite similar to doing a Circle. However, it will be done from within the meditation. At that point, one invokes what they call the Dhyani Buddhas to merge with one's deities, and only at that point does it actually work. No shortcut. The ritual is "sealed", so to speak, by "Squaring the Circle" and inscribing it with Tetragrammaton. Which, as we have previously described, is among the highest mysteries. From the inner plane, this is what Father-Mother have done to keep the Son alive, and it is their only presence, so to say, within that manifested Divine Life. Successful completion of this, primarily, mental meditation ritual, would be anyone's first full result of what is called in Buddhism Unsurpassable Union. This is how the Absolute moves "from without, inwardly, as latent potential".

    And I believe bits and pieces of it are found scattered throughout Western civilization, but this is the full version.

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    Observations

    In concerns right now for, what I will momentarily call, the Assembly of American States, I will admit that, it has been known for a little while now, in Sanskrit, as Myalba. Hell.

    Despite the situations there, very recently you have witnessed what may be called the Outer Dragon. A once in a lifetime eclipse. In some senses, the dragon devoured hell at that time.

    Now your atmosphere is being purified. It can be understood, in some sense, that place has bad breath. Some locales have received a rare snow at the full moon.

    If anyone had their antennae out, at this point, they have realized that recently, a Jonang mission has been spread to Atlanta, which perhaps is now in its first snow. And if these Jonangs have been doing their homework, then they know fully well that the pristine snows of Tibet have a lot to do with man's capacity to see occult light, and so perhaps this is a small blessing for them.

    I have no idea what led them to that area, or exactly why its former owners chose a pretty name for it, but I have read Mahachohan's letter that emphatically and in no uncertain terms that the main spiritual obstacle for "Pelings" is not really about knowledge, it is racist attitudes and behavior.

    And so, we know this is not an ancient city. I suppose it could be described as relatively modern. It definitely could be described as an area that definitely did have some indigenous inhabitants. And they were kicked out of their homes by railroad industrialists. There's no way around or out of that.

    So, there was some kind of business plan to expand industry towards the midwest, and so on this occupied land, they manufactured a new city and gave it a pretty name. And then in only a few years, it, and most of the surrounding area, was destroyed by the United States Army. There isn't anything you can really do to get around that. Nor the fact that most of the industry goods were being produced by other people who were being owned like property, who, although they were numerically mostly of African origin, also included people such as the Irish, who were the trash of the slaves by the way they were usually treated. Undeniably, this is the type of environment generated on your occupied land. But they gave it a pretty name.

    Despite the spelling, it has nothing to do with Atlantis.

    No, it was a girl, Atalanta. For whatever reason, she has an obscure Greek goddess name, from "atalantos", equal in weight, related to "talantos", a scale or balance. So there, even if perhaps by accident, you have placed yourself under Virgo and her scale of justice, Libra. It's entirely possible that Atalanta's *individual* myth, if unlocked, has something specifically to do with the city itself; I don't know. Because she is a virgin whose name is "balance", she's Virgo-Libra. Not as in the pure eternal virgin like Sophia, because, she loses virginity, so the story indicates some kind of fall into matter, some kind of obstacle.

    And further, if the claim that some of the first "Rosicrucians" had a few authentic manuscripts or Kalachakra-keys, which, for their own protection, they had to cloak in Christian garb, holds any weight--then this tract, for whatever reason, is inspired by that very same goddess, and for some reason, is not in every edition of the Glossary:

    Atalanta Fugiens (Lat.). A famous treatise by the eminent Rosicrucian Michael Maier; it has many beautiful engravings of Alchemic symbolism: here is to be found the original of the picture of a man and woman within a circle, a triangle around it, then a square: the inscription is, “From the first ens proceed two contraries, thence come the three principles, and from them the four elementary states ; if you separate the pure from the impure you will have the stone of the Philosophers”. [ w.w.w.]

    Which, whatever else it may be, is not a fictional thing: http://www.alchemywebsite.com/atl1-5.html

    I'm just speculating, but it looks like an auspicious opportunity to put in a true circle around the world--bearing in mind that the scales are not exactly balanced, and it may take a bit of painful honesty, perhaps by multiple parties.

    Even about that "Necronomicon". It seems to me that the people who published it, wanted a bona fide Tibetan document that would not be extremely long, but would make a strong, unique impression. It was, perhaps, not the best selection. It might be fair for even Tibet to make an honest review of one of its saints. Mainly that. To be fair to the Nyingma school as a whole, which, of course is authentic, this is approximately how it compares:

    Gelug or the largest one holds the most "Middle Way" view on emptiness, and this is probably relevant to a majority of seekers, and the reason why Buddhism is almost entirely seen as "non-Atman", "no svabhava", "nothing eternal", is because it really is next to impossible to prevent humans from conceptualizing about those things. It would prevent progress in meditation, or cloud clarity.

    In my understanding, Nyingma is taught from the perspective of completion of the path, and in that way, could be considered "the fastest". If so, then it would have increased relevance for those who, being of high merit and great advancement, have nevertheless taken rebirth. In other words, beneficial almost strictly to Tibet itself, because going really fast as an untrained, casual reader, makes it much riskier than it already is.
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    On a quick check, it seems that Evans-Wentz was simply handed a manuscript of Bardo Thodol by a British officer, so he just had a natural interest in translating it. Sounds pretty Necronomicon-ish so far. For HPB to refer to it as "the system of Samantabhadra" was, perhaps, a bit rough, since that is really just a name used in the invocation. It would be like calling Kalachakra "the system of Vajrasattva". Although, if you look into their Heruka deities, they do have a Mamo, which is the only thing I know of resembling what Koothoomi called "Mamo Chohans".

    Now, whether that British officer had been "injected" by a Dugpa, I am not sure, but the main idea is that the "oldest" Tibetan Buddhism was forced to absorb the Tibetan sorcerors and Vamacaras, and if you look, I believe you will only find the Kapalika trident with Padmasambhava, and not in other lineages. The thing about its publication is that, prior, in the West, almost anything about Buddhism was restricted to Asiatic Societies and fairly tight academic circles; and then this piece became commonly circulated in book stores.

    I was only speculating about Atlanta, and it's highly unlikely the original story is a mini-prophecy for that city. In the end, Atalanta was cursed into being a lion, so all I can say is that a crisis of Virgo-Libra fell into Leo, which happens to be the first labor of Hercules. The thing is unreadable without the key. Same with the Rosicrucian book; and they invented their own language for those. To understand it, then, is a "specialty"; in English or not, you would have to learn two totally separate languages for them to be of any use.

    That's how Kalachakra stands, currently. You could actually see all, or most of it, in Tibetan. The actual script. Not very helpful to me. I have to rely on a "specialist" such as David Reigle to break it into English and Sanskrit for me. I've come to agree this is the important thing to do. This is because I seek the living core, and not, necessarily, the Tibetan language, or the particular way they calculate astrology.

    So when I say "we" in these posts I am doing so from the point of view of the Sangha or Buddhist community. That's all; no person in particular. And from looking at Kalachakra, what does it say, concerning war, whether you want to consider it internally or acted out in the world, your best remedy is public knowledge.

    From its internal admission, the available Kalachakra--which is massive--is about a quarter of the original. From independent research and reflection, I have the strong impression that HPB was the only representative of those who hold the remainder; which is kind of a presumptuous attitude towards the earthly institution of Buddhism. At the same time, the sources of these ideas seem rather intimately entwined with, at the very least, Geluk and Sakya schools, while maintaining that they are not, exactly "the same as" the schools. But it represents the highest public development of what they do; and this is Kalachakra.

    It doesn't matter very much to me if anyone ever finds historical evidence that Hermes came from India, or some type of genetic fossil proving that there really were gelatinous, androgynous human beings. Those are really all details and side branches, things for specialized study. The living core is what's important. And that's what makes Atisha's catechism quite germane.

    The only groundwork needed is Samkhya and a few core texts of Raja Yoga, and then enough of Buddhism until you can understand what Atisha is saying. If you find this to be valid, then you could take refuge. This is not really a prayer for protection or salvation. The concept of refuge is to say these things are my safe guides: Buddha, his teaching, and my other friends who agree enough to say so. From that point, really, unless you violate ethics grossly, no one is going to bother you. To even consider the path, it is not that important. To get the basics, is. What one actually does in yoga is a very personal affair, and for this reason, I prefer the slow, sure road.

    But then as you can see, plainly, from the catechism established around year 1,000--and what had Europe then? A few Latin bibles and an illiterate populace?--Buddhism is neither a religion, per se, nor simply a path of Nirvana--it is a school of clairvoyance. And we give this to our orphans.

    Buddha himself said you may change some minor things; again, no big deal, as long as you are protecting the core. Which, if Kalachakra is its highest living extension, has not changed much in 500 years. Were someone to provide a substantially new or different dharma, I would not be inclined to accept much, unless it passed through three generations of Vajracharyas approved. So while the "theory" of a complete "Mulakalachakra" must currently remain a theory, if there was anything that could ever gain that level of approval, I would expect that to be it.

    It could turn out to be that Jesus is back, or, that, human consciousness is entirely disproven. Not expecting much like either one.

    As public knowledge, then, that is to say the Upanishads and Tantras are no longer esoteric; although they are semi-esoteric, requiring a guru for the full path. I don't know what is going on with this snow, maybe it is only personal to me; I feel shaktipat which is the energy from a guru's aura. In consequence I must say that, if you feel like something like this has been used for centuries against you, then I think you may know a little more about it. When one becomes well grounded, any lord of the dark face will become unmasked.

    If at any point the catechism sinks in, refuge vow in Sanskrit is:

    Buddha saranam gacchami
    Dharmam saranam gacchami
    Sangham saranam gacchami

    With little of the Kalachakra text to go on, the thing that caught my attention is that, at a certain point in the ritual which I know Wiccans will understand, is the apparent use of Tetragrammaton. I am not a Golden Dawn adept or anything like that; it just seems to me that it will be readily comprehensible to Westerners familiar with astral magic as per the Pentagram rituals. The main difference, I think, is this isn't astral.

    The "seal", so to speak, is done by four Sanskrit syllables: jah hum vam hoh

    Because the moment that it is used, appears to be, one's personal reflection of, the mystery of deity inscribing the square with the Word, and it does bear a somewhat eerie correspondence to the more well-known Hebrew Tetragrammaton, it becomes difficult to tell any difference.

    I don't plan to be using it any time soon. That is done at a very high stage. If we were to just go through the motions and tell ourselves we're doing it, then, we're not really doing it. It's not a far exaggeration to say the clear light of death is not inherently blissful. It is, however, a diminution to use a sneeze or orgasm as an example for meditational clear light, although it is the same thing. The least-filtered analogy then is just death. You will feel death. That is a beginning stage.

    As a recent subscriber, it looks to me that the "full Eastern Kabbala" contains the "partial Western" one.

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    If it can be understood that the path, itself, is not really spiritual, you can almost narrow it down to a physiological process. And if you grow on it, then, you get a pretty specific sense or feeling of it. And so, having that sense, it always seemed to me from being around covens, Alice Bailey school, and American Buddhist groups, that hardly any of those people were really on the path. I think some were probably getting clear light, but that was mostly about it.

    The largest group of people that I know, who have experienced it, are mentally ill.

    And so I would hold this public knowledge out, that, for those who are involved in the care of those patients, I believe you may find value in it. Not so much with persons of low intelligence, and not depression, because that is only a consequence of too many jolts to the aura. You will find it more useful towards those of a disturbed temperament.

    It is usually some kind of trauma, whether a birth defect, a hormone imbalance, a head injury, something like that, and it punts them like a football somewhere along the path that they are unfit for.

    Even if you just take it metaphorically, many of those who exhibit nervous tendencies have been pushed to clear light, unprepared. It is much worse if they have been thrown to hallucinations; as a medical condition, perhaps they can happen for other reasons, but in many cases this explains it. Persons who have been laid bare to the deities fall into a "Necronomicon" state. Methods based from a familiarity with these conditions may be beneficial.

    To the extent I can sense such things, it feels to me as though shaktipat has peaked, and everyone can get back to their ant colonies. I believe something happened to the Assembly of American States over the full moon. I am not sure what. On a personal level I reached a sort of unifying juncture in this thread.

    Any astrologer knows what Saturn Return is, but, basically, the full orbit of Saturn takes about 29.5 years. And so usually when a person is 29-30, Saturn kills the old, inherited, childhood karma, and then you begin starting your new stuff as an adult. Some people don't even notice it. Mine was a crippler, psychologically, as if getting stuck with only half a yoga key hadn't been bad enough, but let's admit the karma wasn't of a very good nature. It made me let go of all the splendid multi-facets of religion and doctrines, but I could not put away Buddhism and Theosophy.

    And when that was all I had to figure out the relationship of myself to the universe, this happened: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ightning-Deity

    From then, ten or twelve years ago until, this snow thing I guess, to me, consists of one small step in getting grounded.

    And you know what, it probably shouldn't have been any easier. You look at it and The Secret Doctrine, although not really "about Buddhism", was the going thing until the 1930s when too many competitors showed up. Few if any of the students actually got to the path. Although it is really quite simple.

    I believe that if it had been made simple, that if HPB had just come out and said, "Hi, I'd like to introduce you to Kalachakra. First I'm going to explain how it derived from Samkhya, and then we'll hold a public initiation ceremony", it would not have lasted, it could have been swallowed by competitors and filed away in academic lairs as "this obscure quasi-Buddhist sect" and nobody would have cared. Instead, especially due to the fact of it being written by a seemingly crazy person, and with so much...stuff...built around it, veils as they are called, has kept it controversial, on the edge, and maybe out of popularity but--definitely not forgotten. I would not have picked it up again, had it been like any other mill produced book in a standard format.

    And so the only "20th century message" I can draw from her Lodge, is, not, merely, a cunningly placed set of pointers to Kalachakra--it comes with much more. It is so much more than just that, it is utterly grand and profound.

    I don't know, but, realistically speaking, it's extremely likely that H H. Dalai Lama knows all this, and more, in exquisite detail, and will never whisper a single word. And if you look, pretty consistently across his career, all he says is we need more people focusing on the basics. That part is still true today, it's just that a few Mysteries are in the open.

    With all respect, I would say it needs to be considered how the "Pelings" can manage to become ostracized by a group that preaches love to all beings. What have we done. Broken our circle off from theirs a long time ago, I'm pretty sure of that.

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    Looking at Atisha's catechism around 44-46, he clearly distinguishes transcendental wisdom from the virtuous acts.

    That's the continuity from Samkhya, and it indicates Purusha by calling it transcendental wisdom. Everything else concerns prakriti.

    The Purusha has been defined, cosmologically, as a point; and the meditation is focused thus, on a point. If I have been using the term "core" about the main Yogacharya practice in general, in Buddhism, you will start encountering the term, Pith. Well, that kind of means two things; fruit pulp, and an essence or aroma from it. So Pith instructions are intended as the essence.

    This could even be considered Moon Magic, as the moon is the closest physical time-keeper. However, it is not sub-lunar, not within form, and not an astral operation. It goes through the astral plane, same as the physical, but is not using them under their own power, as it is not within them. It is Manasic. So that takes the whole "lunar self" and sucks the dominance out of it, and works on a higher plane.

    Manas is Pith. It has a dual, malleable nature. Prior to the path, one's manasic energy is almost entirely in the pulp. It's heavier and more attractive, and, when energized, after death it will pull you to the transmigrations in kama loka. It is the aroma or essence, only, that adheres to the higher self. So we make the effort to transfer our personal consciousness to the Pith as intended by the instructions.

    In attempting to make a certain kind of information public knowledge, I'm going in a way similar to Wade Frazier. If you read his posts, what does it come to--he decided to tell people, look, don't expect free energy devices to start hitting your neighborhood. He wants to use the knowledge about them, to just get you to think, what would that more "abundant" life really be like, if the burden of physical energy chains were wiped away. In the same way, I am just trying to make it easier not just to know about the Pith, but to be able to experience it in a safe manner. Not to be able to somehow run the whole path on your own, but just to place in your hands what it really is.

    Evil, and mental obscurations, have this same nature of an aroma. Look at some well-known butcher like Caligula, and let's pretend one day he had a change of heart, renounced violence, and dedicated his life to altruism. Most people, upon such a "conversion" wind up relapsing a few times, but let's say he turns out to be so serious that he stays good for the rest of his life.

    It's a lot like putting a bouquet of roses into a used fish wrapper. Still going to smell like fish. Even with an intense dedication to purity, whatever is built into yourself, simply takes a long time to dissipate. In most cases, you wouldn't find a fishy smell going away before the roses withered. Same with the "lunar self". Without relying on a safe guide, almost all of us are going to build up reservoirs of obscurations. Once that happens, no matter how good the instruction and how good we are, mentally, we're going to reek for as long as it takes to quit stinking.

    Aroma is an apt metaphor, although, one of the common ways it's actually experienced, is as a "choir of the dead". Ask a crazy person about that. Those can be really disturbing, and those are not even the deities. So, it's public information, and if you get the background properly, then studying advanced tantra is ok. But, no, it's not remotely safe to try getting into it; the parts they say, only do after an empowerment, or with a guru, it's not a theological proposition--it's a stop sign.

    So I simply envision a society where a lot of people start getting the basics. If not, eventually you'll run out of time before the scales of justice start fixing the international imbalances. A nation under samsara will enact war or civil strife, and this is the only way to prevent that.

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