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    Angry Re: Depressing survey results show how extremely stupid America has become

    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    It's not just the poor quality of education though, of course.
    It's also fluoridation, chemtrials, GMOs, junk food, vaccines, HAARP, cell phones and towers, etc. etc.

    Dearest Onawah you left out Apathy!
    Its the worst thing to my mind & possibly most damaging.

    (although you did type etc etc)
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    Default Re: Depressing survey results show how extremely stupid America has become

    "Isolationism" makes control of 300M people easier

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    Default Re: Depressing survey results show how extremely stupid America has become

    A common misperception among many people is that their education stops when they finish school. I don't blame them in one respect as school can be quite boring and tedious. Mind numbing describes it well.
    Fortunately, my mother encouraged me to read books at a young age which is where my valuable education came from. I have a PHD in book reading.

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    Default Re: Depressing survey results show how extremely stupid America has become

    It's easy to say that 99.9% of the population is "dumb" because they don't play the violin. Or 99% of the population is dumb because they don't speak German. What's dumb anyway? One hundred and fifty years ago I would have been dumb if I couldn't ride a horse!

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    Default Re: Depressing survey results show how extremely stupid America has become

    Good point Heartsong. We should *probably* be able to raise all the animals, build all our buildings, maintain our vehicles, and become adept at everything in the "Off-grid" forum.

    It's not going to work too well if people go through classes and can't remember how many points in a triangle. I would say it's dumb to be unable to retain experiences and mentally process them, aside from the question of what those experiences actually are.

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    Default Re: Depressing survey results show how extremely stupid America has become

    Interesting to read all these posts! Personally, I think it all goes back to what a child is raised in & taught to believe. If his or her life is going calmly along, it's not likely he or she would have to explore outside the "bubble" of personally known existence.

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    Default Re: Depressing survey results show how extremely stupid America has become

    George Carlin take on it:


    Quote "Think of how stupid the average person is...

    ... and realize half of them are stupider than that."
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    omd!! hAHAHAHA!

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    Default Re: Depressing survey results show how extremely stupid America has become

    I am offended by the singling out of the American populace. Trust me, there is plenty of stupid all over the world. I would bet my good ole American "edumucation" against that which my Oxford educated husband received in the UK! He, surprisingly, at 40 years old, didn't know what a soliloquy was (or maybe he had forgotten). Wasn't like he hailed from the land of the Bard or anything. I strongly suspect that the same results obtained from this study would be duplicated world wide. Yes, there are a lot of reasons to dislike and distrust the US, but let's remember that the decisions of the PTB of a nation is no reason to disparage the people of said nation.

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    Default Re: Depressing survey results show how extremely stupid America has become

    Quote Posted by M-Albion-3D (here)
    Quote Posted by ponda (here)
    If a nation state was going to be used as a type of global enforcer for geopolitical purposes then it would make sense to keep the 'voting' public of that nation state ignorant in geography and world history.
    I do agree. Understanding history is critical to depth of character. It is far more than just "events" of the past, it also teaches the "workings" of the passage of time. As a consequence, the human mind is taught hows' and wherefores of "social change" and how the passage of time affects the culture in which we live. Without this, a people will tend to live primarily in the present, somewhat flippant towards the consequences of one's actions.

    It has been rightfully observed I think, that the old world, mainly Europe, educates it's generations to move in a circular "revisiting" fashion, forever repeating, conversely, the US education moves predominantly linear into the future.

    An educated American population in these subjects, would perhaps, set this momentum backwards.

    So in many ways, this pioneering American mindset, as simple as it may be, has a significant role to play in the evolution of modern human culture I believe.
    You have absolutely hit the nail on the head! Kudos! I have the good (or not) fortune to be from one of the originator families in the US (Davenport/York line) and also the perspective of being married to an English expat. The US mindset is that of "can do", regardless of one's background. It is understood here, that with the right investment of energy, one can accomplish anything. Comparatively, the English mindset of "how dare you try to better yourself" permeates the culture and keeps the population under its thumb through mass insecurity. Perhaps the same reason that ISIS is destroying the relics of ancient Iraq and Syria. Paying homage to the trappings of the past can indeed, undermine a culture's ability to grow. And in the US, being the grand experiment that it is with an amalgam of races, cultures, creeds, philosophies, ideologies and religions, it is no surprise that some are not educated. It is a microcosm of the world at large. Ignorance and all.

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    Default Re: Depressing survey results show how extremely stupid America has become

    It's really easy to be hypnotized and just be "living the dream" on an autopilot mode (hypnotized). It's not just the americans although no doubt those massive amounts of that chemical crap there is messing up the whole endocrine system of the people. Then add the TV with the talking Fox-heads and your brain becomes like a mush if you just go a long believing what you are told. Not so many chemicals here in Europe even if we too have our share of them and chemtrails.

    Is critical thinking being taught in schools? No! At least not here. It's maybe one of the most important skills in life. If you lack the skill of discernment then you can be really easily swayed. Most people want to believe that ultimately we are being taken care of by our leaders who are like big mommy and daddy, which is ultimately a very flawed and dangerous idea. Yet that's exactly what is being counted on... After all of us here are just rambling nutters, at least that's the way we are seen by the masses. It might take something painful to shatter the illusion. The truth isn't always nice and it may even be scary, but it's much better than the illusion.
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    Default Re: Depressing survey results show how extremely stupid America has become

    I would take any survey with a huge pinch of salt - there are dumb people everywhere. A preponderance of sneery journalism does not help, grumbling inanities about America and Americans, all the while knowing nothing about American culture.

    Coming from Irish ancestry I have never had the same hang-up about Americans that a lot of Little Englanders seem to have.

    The intellectuals are the worst, clinging to the idea that not being American somehow gives you some kind of an edge. It's an unpleasant and hypocritical attitude among some British and Europeans that persists to this day - that we're better than you.

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    Default Re: Depressing survey results show how extremely stupid America has become

    It's by design that we are being systematically dumbed down by the so called 'powers' that we are defeating. It's no wonder that innocent unsuspecting good people are being blasted from all sides by 'them' the bastards.

    They are going down, make no mistake about it. It's just a matter of time.
    Right now, it seems that everything is against us, but just wait.

    It won't be long now...............
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    Default Re: Depressing survey results show how extremely stupid America has become

    There's no reason for any American to take the thread personally, especially since you are here on this forum . The survey was done/written about 'Americans', hence the discussion and sharing of everyone's own observations, please just consider it being "delightfully politically incorrect" in a world of conformist where too many are on psychotropic/mood-altering drugs (fact that can't be denied) spending time in front of TV which existed in every American household since 1960.

    Couple of years ago Mark Passio talked about "re-education of the masses according to Rockefeller" and the monopoly on book publishing houses after WWII, including school books upto university level, it's on YT if you're interested..

    I think there was a reason why "Fahrenheit 451" was published only few years after "1984", as a warning of a totalitarian dystopian society, unless people pay attention to what is really going on, wake up and see that the world is not what we were taught in schools.

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    Default Re: Depressing survey results show how extremely stupid America has become

    I'm a high-school grad, and a college drop-out.

    But I read, and understand books on physics like others read comic books.

    It's pretty clear that the American education system is deliberately dumbing down the people. In the days of slavery, a slave would be beaten if caught with a book. If slaves got smart, the thinking was, they would not be obedient. they would run away. Same thinking here, applied to everyone, now. Have you guys actually looked around at people, going about their life, day to day? They're ZOMBIES. Moving slow, looking at their phone slavishly, a blank, vacant look on their faces. No one home.

    I honestly think its a combo of all the chemtrails, pharmaceuticals in the food/water, and straight-up psychotronic warfare on the people. what I can't figure out is why I, and many others, are unaffected.

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    Hrm. I dropped out of high school, and graduated college. Didn't realize you could do it the other way round.

    Critical Thinking was probably the single most important course I took. And half of it was how to critically think about yourself--lots of red ink peer review there. It should not be holed up as a college elective, should be mandatory in high school.

    Too often I find no one home amongst the educated, alert adults. There's...something...there, but not what I would call a fully developed person. Whereas, honestly, no one I've talked to from say Germany or China is like that.

    Just one small German example: "I trust that you've had your lunch?" I don't think that any American has ever said something like that to me; and I just kind of swallowed the truth, which was: Of course not, here in America we are such faithful workers that we do not stop to eat.

    The reason I'm not affected by the "syndrome" is: refusal. I have a ton of problems, but it's a different kind of problems from refusing the majority of what goes around.

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    Default Re: Depressing survey results show how extremely stupid America has become

    STUPIDITY AND INSANITY MUST BE TAUGHT
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    As a victim of the world’s greatest propaganda ministry, I’ve often wondered how much stupidity and insanity are the result of the pervasive programming we suffer.

    Consider that Americans are constantly told that we’re free, we’re in the richest nation, that everyone admires us, and yet we can see for ourselves that such a belief is untrue. How far from the truth that is !

    We live in a rigid society, constrained by money madness, usury, and where that which is not mandatory, taxed or licensed, is forbidden. Our cities and infrastructure are eroding. People in other nations dislike our government for its military misadventures and worldwide military bases upon their soil. (Would you like to have a foreign military base in YOUR hometown?)

    What was once endowed rights, have become licensed privileges, under the authority of the government that was once the servant, but is now the master. The combined “take” by local, state and federal governments is roughly 44% of the GDP. Does it sound like “freedom” to labor for the benefit of government for over 4 tenths of a year? Egyptian serfs under Pharaoh had a better deal (one part in five - 20%).

    To compound the problem, the socialist - usurer alliance is incompetent and destructive. Usury is behind the financial collapse and socialist slavery is behind the cultural collapse. No civilization can endure when it penalizes its productive people and rewards its nonproductive people. Anyone with half a brain wants to get on the “Gravy Train.” Unfortunately, prosperity depends on productive people - not wealth or its concentration. Our cultured insanity shows up in our media’s admiration of indolent, bored affluent consumers, who produce nothing as their contribution to the world and civilization.

    We must be made barking mad and stupid to endure this without lashing out.

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    Arf! Arf!


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    Default Re: Depressing survey results show how extremely stupid America has become

    I personally do not think it's fair to single out one country, here in Britain its just as bad.
    some people I know mainly ones in their teens or early twenties and some older say some astounding things.
    One young lad I work with comes out with some crazy ones that just make you laugh.some examples
    he thought the Hunchback of Notre Dame was called The Hunchback of Rotterdam
    also the famous painter who cut his ear off Jean Claude Van Damme instead of Vincent van gogh.
    There are lots more by all ages so it is not just America.
    I think we can all say stupid things every now and again I know I do although not in the same class as
    the ones I have wrote above

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