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    Being the political cynic I've become, I can't help but wonder what is in Senator Merkley past that might come out . . . . or what the dems are holding over his head to make him move forward with this.
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    Quote Posted by Satori (here)
    If the premise of the complaint is that there should be no vote before and investigation is conducted and all relevant evidence on these charges are heard, and if that relevant evidence is her testimony, then her testifying takes away the premise of the complaint and the possible basis for a TRO and/or an injunction.

    If the status quo had been or is that she had not testified before the vote, then maybe a TRO was possible. But if she does testify, even without an investigation, then the status quo is that she already testified. In that case, even if the status quo remains that there has still been no vote, I doubt very much that a fair and impartial federal judge will grant a TRO to stop the vote.

    Typically before one goes to the USCS one has to go through the lower courts. That starts in the US District Court before an Article III judge and then moves to a US court of appeals. However there is a mechanism to by pass the court of appeals and try to get immediate review in the USSC.

    My guess is, no TRO, and no injunction to stop the vote. At the end of the day, even if this does go to a higher court, including the USSC, that will be the result.
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    I still have not thoroughly read and analyzed the complaint., nor am I certain that it has in fact been filed.

    But, going over it again one more time it does not appear that Dr. Ford's testifying, or not, is the linchpin of the the complaint. By that I mean, although she is mentioned, the complaint focuses on obtaining documents relative to the nominee that have allegedly been withheld on the grounds of some privilege, such as executive privilege.

    Dr. Ford's testifying would not moot out that aspect, or any other aspect, of the complaint. But, that does not mean that there is merit to the complaint sufficient to warrant postponing the vote.

    Also, since the nominee is a judge in the DC Circuit Court of Appeals, it is likely that if this complaint was filed and if higher review is sought, all the judges on that circuit court will recuse themselves, that is, abstain from hearing the case, and the case if appealed will get to the USSC by a more direct route.

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    If anyone wants to know, The Alex Jones Show is going commercial free in the next hour while they go live to see Kavanaugh speak etc.



    There's a video frame of it live on the front page of https://www.infowars.com/


    LIVE NOW ! He's sounding pretty good so far.


    AJ Show - The Kavanaugh Testimony 1st hour - 2018-09-27_Thursday
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    Quote Posted by Satori (here)
    ... and the case if appealed will get to the USSC by a more direct route.
    So does that mean that one potential outcome that I conjectured above - that a DC court ruling unfavorable to Kavanaugh's confirmation would be upheld by way of a 4-4 tie vote on the US Supreme Court - is still one (of the many) possible outcomes ?

    I'm still anticipating that whatever is the path of maximum chaos and controversy possible, will be the path taken.


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    Quote Posted by Satori (here)
    But, going over it again one more time it does not appear that Dr. Ford's testifying, or not, is the linchpin of the the complaint. By that I mean, although she is mentioned, the complaint focuses on obtaining documents relative to the nominee that have allegedly been withheld on the grounds of some privilege, such as executive privilege.
    Yes - a fact that I found particularly annoying, as I posted above in Post #4815.

    Ask for something that (1) you can't have and (2) that's not relevant to your current task anyway, and then (3) complain to high heaven and (perhaps ultimately) the Supreme Court when you can't get it.

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    Clearly the AI bots are already in control, and are (quite successfully it seems) already defeating us humans by inflicting maximum chaos and controversy on our feeble human endeavors.
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    I'm really starting to wonder if there is some kind of embedded trigger language put in during the school years that can be activated by CNN etc.


    A really scientific program.


    They are escalating all the maddness as if it IS the trigger to activate the people they want activated.
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    Quote Posted by Satori (here)
    ... and the case if appealed will get to the USSC by a more direct route.
    So does that mean that one potential outcome that I conjectured above - that a DC court ruling unfavorable to Kavanaugh's confirmation would be upheld by way of a 4-4 tie vote on the US Supreme Court - is still one (of the many) possible outcomes ?

    I'm still anticipating that whatever is the path of maximum chaos and controversy possible, will be the path taken.

    A 4/4 tie in the USSC is a probability regardless of how the case gets there (assuming it gets there) and regardless of whether the DC Circuit judges decided against or for the vote on Kavanaugh's confirmation, or whether by some procedure the case goes directly to the USSC and not to the DC Circuit Court first.

    In some situations the USSC can have original jurisdiction on appeal without the case first having gone to an intermediate appellate court. I'm not positive that this case (assuming it was filed) presents such a situation, but it may given the Constitutional issues raised and the exigent circumstances urged in the complaint.

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    Adult language, but good lyrics.


    Quote "I Like Trump" - An0maly (produced by: Morgoth Beatz & Kinfolk Jon) Lyrics:
    I like Trump I don稚 really give a ****
    All ya値l suckI知 too real to play it safe, you fake & front
    I知 the plug
    Ya値l just follow like some sheep, do what they want
    I don稚 jump, I知 just saying how I feel like Donald Trump,
    I like Trump (x2)

    I be blunt & real I do what I feel
    Smoke a blunt & chill Make a hundred mil
    Beat the system while the matrix numbers peel
    People hate but I just make another deal
    You don稚 understand the system (yea)
    I知 about to paint the picture (yea)
    Media control the mind & censor
    Everything that ever goes against him (yea)
    Why they pin you as the victim? (yea)
    So you always stay dependent. (yea)
    Then they tell you they gon raise the Taxes, help you out with everything you give them (yea)
    Yet, the homeless getting bigger (yea)
    Sell some weapons out in Yemen (yea)
    I ain稚 getting into all the specifics
    But you best believe I ain稚 trippin,
    Listen All these rappers complain about taxes
    But don稚 realize who tax 粗m
    Under control of the mind, got the culture hijacked & the people moving backwards
    Kanye be trying to tell you the truth
    But the critics still slashed him
    What ever happened to Prince, Dick Gregory, Dr. Sebi, Michael Jackson
    I like Trump I like Trump I don稚 really give a ****
    All ya値l suck
    I知 too real to play it safe, you fake & front
    I知 the plug
    Ya値l just follow like some sheep, do what they want
    I don稚 jump, I知 just saying how I feel like Donald Trump,
    I like Trump (x2)

    I be blunt & real I do what I feel
    Smoke a blunt & chill Make a hundred mil
    Beat the system while the matrix numbers peel
    People hate but I just make another deal (x2)

    Yeah, All these nice politician lie (yea)
    Steal your money stack it like to Dubai (yea)
    Got you in your feelings to the ceiling
    But dealing with the villains & the killings to the side (yea)
    I知 about to teach you the truth (yea)
    They ain稚 tryna teach it to you (yea)
    They would rather keep you in the system
    Pay 100k for college just to end up in prison (yea)
    They should sign your boy to Roc A Feller (oooh)
    I can preach on beat or Acapella (oooh)Reachin deaf & blind like Hellen Keller
    Tell em, look up who it was who sent out Luther King a letter
    We about to hit 粗m with the red wave, yeah
    I ain稚 tryna be another tech slave, nah Zuckerberg & Bezos, check the halo
    I working with them angels while you stackin up the pesos From Pablo to AMLOWe gon bring the God flow, to all zones, I like Trump I like Trump I don稚 really give a **** All ya値l suckI知 too real to play it safe, you fake & front I知 the plug Ya値l just follow like some sheep, do what they want I don稚 jump, I知 just saying how I feel like Donald Trump, I like Trump (x2)
    Hard times create strong men, Strong men create good times, Good times create weak men, Weak men create hard times.
    Where are you?

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    Adult language, but good lyrics.
    I don't really care for rap (imo created just to keep black Americans in the gutter), but I like his attitude.

    Kanye's new album is pretty innovative too. A lot of it is closer to old school R&B or something straddling genres, and not really even rap.

    Example:

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    Just noticed this rather "prophetic" post from 2011 Donald Trump for President 2012 .

    It seems that the suggestion that Trump could ever be president went over like a lead balloon, even here at Avalon.

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    AG nominee William Barr-a super swamp dweller?

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    Quote Posted by Antagenet (here)
    AG nominee William Barr-a super swamp dweller?
    So ... Attorney General nominee William Barr has deep connections with the Bush family.

    This video connected one dot for me that I had missed before. It was the drug running portion of the Iran-Contra controversy, while Reagan was US President and George H.W. Bush was his Vice President (V.P.), that got Bill Clinton his start, as a young governor in Arkansas, where the drugs were being shipped in from South America, through Mena, Arkansas, to various American inner cities. So (Republican) Bush, as a former CIA head and powerful current V.P., and (Democrat) Bill Clinton, as a young governor, go back a long way, to the CIA run Iran Contra drug operation through Clinton's Arkansas, in the 1980's.

    ... and by the above video, Trump's new nominee for Attorney General, William Barr, was a key operative in that Iran-Contra drug running operation. The video documents several other "tasks" that Barr undertook for Bush, with Bush eventually making Barr his Attorney General, back then late in Bush's Presidential term, in 1991.

    A couple of months ago, in early October 2018, it seemed that Trump's Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh also seemed to have very deep connections with the Bush family.

    I surmise from this that the Bush family, and hence 9/11 and the JFK assassination, in both of which the Bush family was deeply involved, are "safe", that they are parts of the swamp that will not be drained.

    Rather it seems that we are heading toward some draining of portions of the swamp closely associated with Hillary Clinton, such as exposing the Clinton Foundation, Uranium One, Hillary's email server and some of her stooges in the Dept of Justice.

    But vast tracks of swamp-land will remain quite swampy, major lies and false operations of the past will remain whispers in the halls of us tin-foil-hat conspiracy theory nut cases, and, sadly, the CIA and Federal Reserve, as well as the role of the most powerful families, will remain, after perhaps a fresh coat of paint.

    I do not see any former U.S. President facing criminal charges.

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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    I surmise from this that the Bush family, and hence 9/11 and the JFK assassination, in both of which the Bush family was deeply involved, are "safe", that they are parts of the swamp that will not be drained.
    George Jr. may or may not be publicly held to account by the time all of this is said and done, and I do believe the Bush networks have been dismantled, but I think you are right that they will be shielded from most of the fallout.

    That goes for the Reagan administration too, which, especially after they tried to assassinate Reagan and then started drugging him, was basically just the first Bush Sr. administration. You have the Franklin Scandal and all kinds of other stuff that indicates Reagan's administration saw a continuation of all the same basic corruption at the heart of the system, despite whatever Reagan's own intentions might have been. It would be too destabilizing for the psychology of the nation to have to deal with so much corruption going all the way back in our history to JFK.

    But, maybe a few years into the tribunals and other court cases, I think people will be more ready to accept what has happened to us since the Federal Reserve was created, even moreso since WW2, and then accelerated again after JFK was killed. Even if it doesn't translate down to the common working man and woman, academics will have more than enough gristle to chew on for many decades.


    But the real reason I wanted to come dig this thread back up was to share some otherwise off-topic "transition to Trump" material.

    If not for double standards, they'd have no standards at all:






    Does that picture not speak volumes? Of course, despite it not being highly-publicized in the first place, I'm sure it's "fake."


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    He's not a fan of Q, but Dark Journalist had some good things to say about Trump at 2 hours 25 minutes in here :

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