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    Default FINALLY! A significant entity addresses what concerns us 'truthers'!'

    (EDIT) Sorry, this was a HOAX. I should have known, it was too good to be true.

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    The Vatican/Pope has released letter which touches on many of the topics that concern Avalonians and truth-seekers everywhere, but major media outlets and other large entities address nowhere. I would prefer if the word "can" was replaced with "is beginning to." But this is a start. Is this the beginning of "disclosure?"

    Encyclical Letter Laudato Si Signed May 24, 2015

    http://w2.vatican.va/content/dam/fra...dato-si_en.pdf

    The world is struggling with propaganda, disinformation, and significant suppression of the truth. The new Pope's efforts to provide digital access to works in the Vatican Library on a selective basis are a good start. In the meantime, there is a great deal of knowledge which the Church, its libraries and networks can share:

    The Church can accelerate access to both the Vatican Library and Archives.

    The Church can publish all its information regarding global "black budgets." This would include any information related to invisible weaponry and technology driving the real governance systems operating on Planet Earth.

    In the context of understanding what is happening to our environment, the Church can publish all its information on global geo-engineering and weather control programs as part of an open discussion to ensure that the global population and scientific community has accurate data on what is happening to our climate. The Church can provide open access to its financial information and persuade its affiliates, endowments and churches to do the same, including detailed disclosure on a place-based basis.

    The Church can encourage global governments to publish their budgets and credit information on a place-based basis. Place-based financial disclosure will permit the alignment of financial ecosystems with environmental ecosystems - a critical step to ensuring a healthy environment. This will create incentive systems which reward the health and well-being of all living things.

    The Church can disclose all information on its direct and indirect involvement in any illegal activities, including vote rigging, narcotics trafficking, and money laundering.

    The Church can use its shareholdings and ownership positions in media companies to insist on integrity in public information.

    The Church can use its shareholdings in pharmaceutical and food companies to insist on integrity and independence of scientific research.

    The Church can provide a safe haven for scientists, journalists and other professionals who are targeted for upholding high standards of integrity in science and information.

    Individual Freedom
    Slavery contributes significantly to the degradation of people throughout our planet.

    The Church can withdraw from supporting governments, corporations or any other organizations that support any form of slavery.

    The Church can destroy the "control files" of prominent businessmen and politicians created through the use of its networks.

    The Church can complete restoration efforts related to its pedophilia activities and publish complete figures on how much the Church has spent on all restoration efforts.

    The Church can use its shareholdings and ownership positions in government and corporate securities to insist on a withdrawal of corporate and government support for mind control, torture and slavery and the compromise of individual privacy and sovereignty.

    Organized Crime & Lawlessness
    The primary source of environmental damage does not result from market economics - quite the opposite. It results from the lethal combination of organized crime operating powerful and invisible weaponry coupled with invasive digital systems and sophisticated financial tools on scale. In short, those with the ability to kill, to destroy and to steal with impunity combine such force with fiat currencies, unsustainable debt, resource extraction, financial fraud, war and genocide in order to centralize wealth and power in a manner which shrinks total wealth.

    Lawlessness on a global scale must be dealt with before it destroys our planet.

    The Church can divest its holdings in governments and corporations which engage in these practices. It should encourage its affiliates and members to do the same.

    The Church can also disassociate from foundations and not-for-profits that engage in these practices or that launder profits for those who do.

    The Church can make clear that the ten commandments apply not just to what we do, but to whom and what we finance.

    The Church can stop any and all participation by itself and its networks in narcotics trafficking and disgorge the profits of the same to the people harmed.

    Debt & Fiat Currency
    No less than The Economist has rightly pointed out that we are chocking on debt, in part because we provide enormous tax subsidies which encourage debt (see The Great Distortion). Debt throws people out of alignment with one another and with the environment around them. Ditto fiat currency which is used in a manner to debase global populations and economies.

    We must shift to an equity-based financial system which facilitates the free flow of equity unencumbered by the intervention and control of organized crime. An equity-based system - which includes the financing of small businesses, small farms and local economies with equity - will permit us to evolve a financial system in which we can generate wealth from healing our environment and reducing consumption.

    The Church can encourage these changes by shifting the significant funds it manages as well as those managed by its networks.

    The Church can encourage governments to reduce laws and regulations that prevent the local circulation of equity or that prevent the creation and success of local currency systems.

    Sovereignty is Sacred
    A global culture is one which respects the sovereignty of every individual. We respect human rights. We respect property rights. We respect privacy. We respect the right of each human being to make up their own mind.

    The Church can withdraw its investments from all governments and corporations (including media) which compromise people's privacy or which manipulate them via mind control techniques, entrainment technology, subliminal programming or electronics.

    The Church can actively encourage its priests and networks to bring transparency to mind control techniques or any efforts to mislead people globally.

    The Church can offer sanctuary to scientists, government personnel or journalists who bring transparency to these efforts.

    Capitalism: Let's Try It
    Before we dismiss capitalism, we should try it.

    Organized crime is not capitalism. It is the application of force to control and to get one's way. Market economics can solve many of the problems before us - but we have to unleash markets to work rather than prevent them from operating and then blaming the subsequent "mess" on them.

    The Church can call for all monies stolen by illegal means in the last two decades to be returned, including trillions which have disappeared from the US government or which have been accrued as a result of financial frauds prior to the bailouts.
    The Church can refrain from blaming our current situation on the people who have been harmed by these thefts or from insisting that the subsequent economic damage is a result of the victims' poor values or "consumerism."

    The Church can withdraw its investment from financial institutions, governments and corporations that: Engage in market rigging and intervention.

    Provide unlawful or unethical support to cartels and monopolies.

    Engage in the purposeful suppression of technologies which would ease the harm we are doing to the environment.

    The Church and its affiliates and members manage trillions in real estate and financial assets. As one of the most significant capitalist organizations/investment networks on our planet, it can institute policies to ensure that it does not invest in companies or governments which behave in the manner described in the latest Encyclical and that its real estate is not used to support such activities.

    During Vatican II, the Church forced the sale of significant real estate holdings which were serving communities. The proceeds from these sales were reinvested in corporate securities. The Church can ensure that the Orders for whom these funds are managed have access to full transparency about these investments and are permitted to institute policies which ensure that these investments are managed in accordance with the goals of this Encyclical.

    War
    Published global military expenditures were $1.7 trillion in 2013. Add secret black budget expenditures and the total was likely much more. These funds - combined with savings from destructive behavior such as gambling, narcotics and alcohol - could be shifted into investment in healing our environment, our education systems, our health care systems and revitalizing global infrastructure.

    The Church can bring transparency to all worldwide resources which are related to killing. It can invite its members to pray that these resources be shifted to investments which increase productivity rather than enable a small group of people to own and control the planet.

    Invite Feedback
    Both the Church and our planet are dynamic living systems. Moving to a healthy global culture and aligning our financial ecosystems with our environmental ecosystems is a journey.

    The Church can encourage its entire network to adopt these goals in their lives so that achieving them is a partnership of the many for the benefit of all.

    The Church can publish an annual report on its efforts to take responsibility and to achieve these goals internally in its own operations, asset managements and investments and to invite feedback from all of its constituents to help it do so.

    Wise as a Serpent
    There is often a risk that any important policy will be misunderstood or misused by those who are centralizing control and power. The G-7 nations have experienced a financial coup d'etat. A great deal of money and assets have been shifted out of sovereign governments into private hands - either illegally or under the guise of trillions in bailouts and quantitative easing - while liabilities have been shifted back into governments.

    Now that these transfers are complete, it would be convenient to blame the victims and to abrogate their pensions and other savings plans and promises. It would be unfortunate if this Encyclical were used to justify the value of doing so in the name of "reducing consumerism" or to politically outmaneuver the victims by accusing them of being "selfish."

    Economies function on trust and such trust must come from honoring our agreements. As Pope Francis understands, it is easy to blame the victim and to take from the powerless.

    Utah Phillips once said, "The Planet is not dying, it is being killed. And the people doing the killing have names and addresses."

    We commend the Pope for calling out for a cessation of the debasement of all living things. Let us hope that his latest Encyclical starts ringing doorbells - beginning with the opportunity to do so in the Church and in the Church's asset and investment portfolios.

    Encyclical Letter Laudato Si Signed May 24, 2015

    http://w2.vatican.va/content/dam/fra...dato-si_en.pdf
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    Default Re: FINALLY! A significant entity addresses what concerns us 'truthers'!'

    Well, we should be very carefull with this. Sounds very nice... to be the complete truth. We all whished to read something like this, so they are giving it to us. This letter is a little brainwhashing, remarking again and again "The church can..." this and that; how about their own responsability?... To me is more "The church could have done..." this or that.
    All this sounds like an attempt to clean their hands. If it´s true this is a great news, but i doubt it. Looks like the "soft" elite´s plan B.
    Thanks a lot Jake Gittes for the info.
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    I agree with you Juan...

    Vatican Communist Coup Confirmed - Alex Lones

    https://youtu.be/auRES1NCVJ8 (14 min video)


    Published on 07/10/2015

    Alex Jones breaks down how the Pope is a part of the globalist plan to destroy the world.

    Read more:
    POPE CALLS FOR NEW WORLD ORDER - http://www.infowars.com/pope-calls-fo...

    IS POPE FRANCIS THE FALSE PROPHET? - http://www.infowars.com/is-pope-franc...

    POPE CALLS FOR GLOBAL AUTHORITY TO IMPOSE CLIMATE CHANGE AGENDA - http://www.infowars.com/pope-calls-fo...

    CATHOLICS ATTACK POPE OVER “CLIMATE CHANGE” FEARMONGERING - http://www.infowars.com/catholics-att...

    POPE FRANCIS SAYS YOU’RE NOT CHRISTIAN IF YOU OWN A GUN - http://www.infowars.com/pope-francis-...

    THE POPE SHOULD LISTEN TO TOM WOODS - http://www.infowars.com/the-pope-shou...
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    Quote Posted by betoobig (here)
    Well, we should be very carefull with this. Sounds very nice... to be the complete truth. We all whished to read something like this, so they are giving it to us. This letter is a little brainwhashing, remarking again and again "The church can..." this and that; how about their own responsability?... To me is more "The church could have done..." this or that.
    All this sounds like an attempt to clean their hands. If it´s true this is a great news, but i doubt it. Looks like the "soft" elite´s plan B.
    Thanks a lot Jake Gittes for the info.
    Much Love.
    Juan
    I agree completely. Tell us what you are doing, what you have done, not what you could or can do... Do or do not, right? I think it's white washing or brain washing as you say. They could open the library up today to researchers and academics if they chose to.. I call BS, show us or shut up, don't behave like any other political group and tell us what you aim to do some time in the future with your new so called can do attitude... N

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    Juan, I agree with you. I have a cautionary feeling that this Jesuit pope is not all he appears to be on the surface.The smiling face of Pope Francis is good PR, and he chooses words people want to hear. Obama also has a smiling face, and speaks words that many want to believe.

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    Words are cheap. I don't trust Francis one little bit--we have absolutely no reason to trust the Jesuits, as history has proven over and over again.
    I'm not a big fan of Alex Jones, but I would believe him much sooner than I would Francis.
    On the other hand, both stands may all just be another way to cause more division, distraction and confusion.
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    Hi Rocky_Shorz,
    Secureteam is a faker, he´s known to produce the shots himself for gaining followers on YouTube for bucks.....
    Hes doing evil and earning Money from it ... sounds familiar. Disinform Agent or plain ashole, doesnt matter.

    just a thought: if global warming by humans is true we should be able to see a slight weatherchange on all Weekends. If this is not detectable the theory crumbles even more.

    have a nice weekend

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    Alex Jones is blinded by his right-wing views to the point that he longer makes sense. In order to present Francis as the devil incarnate, he suggests that if he weren’t, then all his immediate predecessors must have been evil monsters, or words to that effect. Apart from contradicting the Vatican insider Malachi Martin, who actually claimed that all the popes after Pius XII were precisely that, this is a really embarrassing dilemma for a conspiracy theorist to be facing, since for him the Vatican has been unmitigatingly evil from its inception. If there is no such thing as a good pope, then it is worrying to have to change that tune in order to defend the idea that there is no such thing as a good Jesuit. This is about as Manichaean as Bush’s ‘if you are not with us, you are with the terrorists’. No: Bushism and terrorism are two sides of the same counterfeit coin, and likewise if you apply the same black-and-white thinking to the Church, you tie yourself in all kinds of knots.

    One big knot is that the ‘Church-all bad’ approach implies that oneself is all good, unable to make a mistake, or in Vatican-speak, infallible. This was George Bush’s vicarious position, speaking and acting for God, and naturally doing no wrong. Let’s untie the knot of infallibility, which just happens to be a papal attribute as well. John XXIII reminded us that the pope is infallible when making a formal announcement from the papal throne, and promptly stated that that was something he would not be doing. If a pope is infallible and John emphatically wasn’t, does that make him an antipope? Perhaps it does: there was an antipope called John XXIII: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antipope_John_XXIII
    We see an ambivalence here: Roncalli took the name and number of an antipope, thereby identifying somewhat with that category of prelate, but by taking the same number rather than XXIV he also dismissed his predecessor as literally not counting as a successor to Peter. Hence, as a lawful pope with antipapal tendencies, he transgressed the pope/antipope duality by doing things popes were not supposed to do, such as combating the ambient conservatism with his aggiorniamento. His liberalism was pursued by his appointed successors Paul VI and John Paul I, until this dynamic was cruelly stopped, likely by foul means, leading to the reign of the reactionary John Paul II, whose name provides continuity where there was none, and his henchman and grand inquisitor, Benedict XVI. Seen within this overall dynamic, Francis represents another swing of the pendulum that an ultra-conservative like Alex Jones was never going to like. Francis is fallible and so is Alex Jones. He’s sure messed up on this one. There are such things as good popes and good Jesuits, and off-days for Alex Jones as well.

    More here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post963631


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    They never burned the library at Alexandria ... they took it

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    Very astute, BtB: While there are undoubtedly good people in all organisations ( Kevin Annett as example ), the rhetoric of this letter, is probably another disinfo , distraction, after all, Pope Paul referenced the imminent arrival of Niburu, back in 1982, ( how do I pass on - insert a photo from MY pc, not an url, pls ! ) so they're fully appraised, armed and prepared. We can be sure the Nephelim, ( or whatever ), has planning strategies unbelievably sophisticated...

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    The Church can?

    Yea, they can play with yer head... too.

    Just Like Constantine did... when he moved the Roman Empire, into possition to control the world... without a standing Army!

    And all it took was a couple of name changes.

    From: Roman Empire to Catholic Church...
    From: Roman Emperor to Pope...

    Done!

    The Roman Empire never fell... they just changed the name!

    Why do you think the Vatican... was built in Rome?

    Yes... the Church most certainly "Could"... but... Don't hold yer breath...
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    Sorry, this was a HOAX. I should have known, it was too good to be true.

    Carry on.

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    Quote Posted by jake gittes (here)
    Sorry, this was a HOAX. I should have known, it was too good to be true.

    Carry on.
    Thanks for the heads up. What info gave you this understanding? Any links? Many thanks in advance... N

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    Wellcome to the club Jake Gittes, this has happened to me too... and still does. MY pleasure.
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    Quote Posted by Prodigal Son (here)
    They never burned the library at Alexandria ... they took it
    Very interesting, Sir !
    I always had doubts, even though various PTB make much of public burning (usually of 'banned' books ),
    Whether it was false-history, I read many years ago, that the papyrus kept the public baths heated for THREE months ????
    I thought that to be un-realistic... ( though, at that time, had not awakened to the 're-writing ' of history, according to the successful 'winners' ).

    And, now, in the 21st century, they're re-writing, re-forming the Electronic books, Digital records....
    The most blatant example being the British Childrens series " The Railway Children ".

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