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    Who is this "we" you refer to?
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    [SIZE="3"][B]We know that the Avalon forum is nothing but "sooN"...
    It's an expression of objective perspective...




    p.s. It's NOT meant as an assumption of "others agreement", nor is it a schizophrenic personality rearing it's head, although these points could be argued I guess LOL...
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    This is the results of digesting information you can’t personally verify. It places you in fear, confusion, and gives you a sense of hopelessness. The only thing that truly matters is being the best person you can be to self and others. Do this…your family, friends, and neighbors will recognize your examples and clearly see the benefits it bestows on everyone. Soon after…all the “soon” and “latter” porn will be seen for what it is…and that’s disempowerment. What else has it ever been? When the information is keeping the "activists" in-active there should be alarms going off all in your head.

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    I don't want ( or mean ) to be mean but it seems to me, OMG, that you're slightly disappointed with the fact that the Avalon forum left Corey behind ( and similar to him prophets , vis Charles/Atticus of 2011, maybe even Simon Parkes , to name but few , i'd have to add other names but not willing to be constantly on target from 'ye believers' ),
    at least so it seems to me , this being 3rd cloned thread of your first cloned thread about presumed 'Event' .

    You seem to be proposing that it's some kind of 'norm' to believe in such event , perhaps because people in all times did ?

    The Last Judgement Day ? The Age of Aquarius ? The 2012 ? The 2017 ? The 2024 ? The New Judgement Day ?

    Do you really have to believe in something so absurd or don't you realise mankind has been here for millions of years and we're here for a long haul ?

    I'm perfectly sure there will be events , natural cataclysms for example we can't do much about but in case of celestial bodies they rarely happen 'all at once' from the ants - human perspective .
    Look at stars .. lots of the flickering light too far away may have left its originator behind in time already.
    This world too will have End . It's just nowhere too near . Magnetic storms and shifts do happen but they take time to happen and if they were to wipe out 'the rest of evil humanity' fast and smart they'd wipe all the rest too and would be fairly unpredictable and no human race would continue here as they're till today.
    Humans have been here for couple of millions years already.

    Kindly blame yourself and centuries of religious education that somehow convinced many people we live in 'short history of creativity' or sort of 'eternal presence' and everything advanced started years ago ( since you remember ) and will take conclusive shape few years later so that it all makes perfect sense to You and I.

    It's not your life , this life to blame , it's generations and generations of humans who lived as they lived and believed what they were told and many of them never found the strength or capacity to question what they were taught or dispute it .

    In 100 years or 1000 years from now and 10 000 years from now i dare to say there will be still people on this planet and they won't believe what we believed . Or maybe they will ..in principal ways .but the cunning thing about peoples 'rooted principles' is they're mostly based on our nescience and they do change shape when relevant knowledge becomes available .


    Just don't go believing that people believe or want to believe in an event that someone forecasted because those events may be perfectly true for chosen few like most other human events. For the rest it might be also big disappointment .

    I've seen thousands and thousands of human beings in this life and most won't change easily , for any events sake.



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    Today I have awakened a person in a good and high position. Just told him about the missing trillions a day before 911 2001. What???!! He said. So, I showed him links to secret space program, Joseph Farrell, Jim Marrs and Dark Journalist. Now he has the red pill, and he likes it.

    Another, just one by one, real flesh and blood person up to The Event.
    That is exactly the only way to get it to happen.

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    Quote I don't want ( or mean ) to be mean but it seems to me, OMG, that you're slightly disappointed with the fact that the Avalon forum left Corey behind ( and similar to him prophets...
    That isn't a thought that ever entered my mind.

    I try to support truth, not personalities or agendas...


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    I don't really see how it could be taken as anything other than an assumption of others' agreement.
    The fact is that you cannot possibly know for certain where all Avalon members stand on this issue (or any other issue, for that matter).
    In such a situation, the wise thing to do is simply to speak for yourself; to preface such a statement, if you really feel you have to make it, with the allowance that you are voicing an opinion and have no claim to omnipotence.
    Otherwise, it's quite likely that you will be suspected, not necessarily of schizophrenia, but of delusions of grandeur.
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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    Who is this "we" you refer to?
    Quote Posted by OMG (here)

    [SIZE="3"][B]We know that the Avalon forum is nothing but "sooN"...
    It's an expression of objective perspective...




    p.s. It's NOT meant as an assumption of "others agreement", nor is it a schizophrenic personality rearing it's head, although these points could be argued I guess LOL...
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    More or less I've had the same experiences with the OP since 2003. I still remember them and they feel so ridiculous now, like the Zetas and the white lie, NESARA, Sheldan Nidle, massive earth changes, timewave zero, 2012 etc.. The Event never happened on an external level, but it did happen. The awakening always was an internal process of facing your deepest fears, insecurities and embracing them with love. That was the transformation I was always expecting. Only it didn't come in a spaceship or a new financial system, but with great esoteric challenge and pain which crushed the ego and the personality. That is the Event and it's still ongoing for all of us. It waits for us to face it inside.

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    Quote I don't really see how it could be taken as anything other than an assumption of others' agreement.

    The fact is that you cannot possibly know for certain where all Avalon members stand on this issue (or any other issue, for that matter).

    In such a situation, the wise thing to do is simply to speak for yourself; to preface such a statement, if you really feel you have to make it, with the allowance that you are voicing an opinion and have no claim to omnipotence.

    Otherwise, it's quite likely that you will be suspected, not necessarily of schizophrenia, but of delusions of grandeur.
    The point of the statement(s) that I made was to show that "soon" is a concept which is based on unfulfilled expectation. When someone post' information on a forum they are either making a matter-of-fact or opinionated statement OR attempting or engaging-in a dialogue. Either way they are establishing a presence in time for others to see OR interact with. This in turn creates a future time potential (via observation OR response) and with all potentials they are relative and beckon more time, hence "SOON" is never realized.

    None of this has to do with delusions of grandeur or speaking for others (unless you consider it a presumptuous leap to acknowledge that we are ALL sharing time and relative experience - in which case I apologize). It only demonstrates a shared objective perspective in time. Hope that clarifies.


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    Quote I don't want ( or mean ) to be mean but it seems to me, OMG, that you're slightly disappointed with the fact that the Avalon forum left Corey behind ( and similar to him prophets...
    That isn't a thought that ever entered my mind.

    I try to support truth, not personalities or agendas...

    Yes but certain type of 'phenomena' = 'truths' ( plural because these are always going to be relative truths ..) such as 'predictions of event' are inevitably associated with certain personality types creating them.

    They do not 'shine on you from the sky' and do not just emerge by themselves .

    They pretty much source with who mostly turn to 'false prophets' of your 'soon' , sooner or later .

    I really do blame lack of education on part of this phenomenon at least because it's always been there .

    The Chassidic Jewish community ( from what I've read and i'm no expert on that topic but finding it highly relevant point here ) or part of them at least ,
    strongly believed in the 'second coming' and birth of messiah and restoration of new order of righteousness on earth ( kindly do not confuse this with the 'NWO' or other kind of zionist propaganda ) many times in their history,
    speaking of 'religious people' now. When the times started to darken upon Europe before WWII and the esoteric groups and orders were actually all up and 'expecting major event' ( somehow it always comes on plate when war is looming over ) ,

    they all hoped for the 'Golden Dawn' and the 'messiah' to come and bring peace is testing their faith .
    Many people could have run away to safety .. because they knew what's underway,
    the intellectuals knew it and the sensitives new it but there's always the 'matter of belief' coming through
    and asking people to endure and suffer and 'hope will come' .

    There were people who believed in the 'event' till the very day WWII was declared and till they were rounded and counted and sent to camps and strapped of their cloth and human dignity and then it was too late to run.


    And yet .. if you look back , how many of these 'esoteric societies' , all of them almost were busy with 'predicting an event' confess that the event they predicted never happened but war did and everyone had to run, mostly, to save their own buts .

    And I think .. it would happen these days too . Just another way .


    The Muslims, the Jews , the Christians and just about too many 'faithers' all around the world believe something extraordinary will happen to change the course of mankind for better ,
    and it may be that it will happen after the 'good faith' crosses the 'critical mass' mark and people realise they can't fix everything .


    It's just that it does not seem to be any 'SOON' to me now



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    Quote Yes but certain type of 'phenomena' = 'truths' ( plural because these are always going to be relative truths ..) such as 'predictions of event' are inevitably associated with certain personality types creating them.
    Good catch...yea I knew it was trouble when I wrote that about "truth"...lol.

    There are generally two types of truths...ABSOLUTE and relative. Anything relative is related to "soon". Simple.

    Yet even in a relative illusion/reality certain agendas and people argue from an Absolute value because they attribute an action or decision which they make "now" as Absolute. This is Not an ABSOLUTE truth but only a relative perspective. I was defending relative values (with a hidden meaning) when I said that "I support truth, not personalities or agendas", since the latter can be dominated by ego and fallacy.

    So here's the tricky part...Our Essence/Consciousness can be tuned into or even be aware of ABSOLUTE TRUTH while everything else about/around us is relative. So even if we are interacting or discussing relative perspectives we have the capability to objectively look at what is transpiring (observing ourselves) at any given moment.

    Now the ULTIMATE kicker is that ALL is TRUTH since everything exist' (be it conceptual, actual or potential, etc). Hence the statement "all is permissible but not all is beneficial". Or The Course in Miracles famous quote, "Nothing real can be threatned, nothing unreal exist'..."

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    Quote Yes but certain type of 'phenomena' = 'truths' ( plural because these are always going to be relative truths ..) such as 'predictions of event' are inevitably associated with certain personality types creating them.
    Good catch...yea I knew it was trouble when I wrote that about "truth"...lol.

    There are generally two types of truths...ABSOLUTE and relative. Anything relative is related to "soon". Simple.

    Yet even in a relative illusion/reality certain agendas and people argue from an Absolute value because they attribute an action or decision which they make "now" as Absolute. This is Not an ABSOLUTE truth but only a relative perspective. I was defending relative values (with a hidden meaning) when I said that "I support truth, not personalities or agendas", since the latter can be dominated by ego and fallacy.

    So here's the tricky part...Our Essence/Consciousness can be tuned into or even be aware of ABSOLUTE TRUTH while everything else about/around us is relative. So even if we are interacting or discussing relative perspectives we have the capability to objectively look at what is transpiring (observing ourselves) at any given moment.

    Now the ULTIMATE kicker is that ALL is TRUTH since everything exist' (be it conceptual, actual or potential, etc). Hence the statement "all is permissible but not all is beneficial". Or The Course in Miracles famous quote, "Nothing real can be threatned, nothing unreal exist'..."



    That's right almost to the point . You can't take people out of the Equation . You can't take human personality, characters and fates out of the great equation .. it's the other way this is being REALLY DONE : by expanding and modifying the equation.

    Applying 'absolute principles' to relative views thus creates illusion of 'spiritual plane' together with its 'truth' and 'guiding principles' . Every 'religion' is an artificial construct that occurs by 'sacrificing the truth' to 'public feed' .

    The closest we are to truth , on the level where truth can be seen/perceived/received is within ourselves.
    Outer truth are usually way way away from where your fulfilment of reality is concerned.

    Fallen spiritual truth turn against each other . As 'In absence of God everything is allowed..'.

    Should say, doesn't matter ... may the Light Shine Through ...




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    OMG, if you like philosophy; the bloggers mentioned here are a living example of Nirvana fallacy.

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    Quote Posted by wondering (here)
    It seems to me that this is another example of duality....why can't hope and action coexist? Why does one approach have to be so totally denigrated in favor of the "right" way of looking at things?
    The mind's handiwork - master of duality. All perspectives point, either directly or indirectly, to an ineffable truth.

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    Quote Posted by ZenBaller (here)
    The Event never happened on an external level, but it did happen. The awakening always was an internal process of facing your deepest fears, insecurities and embracing them with love. That was the transformation I was always expecting. Only it didn't come in a spaceship or a new financial system, but with great esoteric challenge and pain which crushed the ego and the personality. That is the Event and it's still ongoing for all of us. It waits for us to face it inside.
    Truth.

    And I would like to add, there may be the possibility of an "event" that *does* lend itself to an even greater acceleration of the collective awakening process. But, like others have pointed out, it seems to be counterproductive to wait for it with baited breath. Allowing and flexibility, stillness and receptivity - these seem to accelerate the awakening process in my own experience.

    ALLOWING the process to unfold without trying to WILL IT into existence is a tenuous balancing act that, at least in my experience, lends itself to heightened states of awareness and inner peace. Rather than wait for it or give up on it, we can sense that it is already happening, and that our ability to allow it to continue, to be receptive to the energetic/vibrational shifts, releases us from the suffering that others who are swept along in the process may experience.

    I wholeheartedly believe that this process does not pick and choose "worthy candidates" - we are all in this together. The illusion of control is incomplete - we do seem to have a choice, in that, we can go along with the process and surrender ourselves to it, or we can fight it and suffer. But we will all get there in the end.

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