Projected (Benchmarked) Timeline through December 2017

[TODD & NORA]

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[Bill Ryan]

This is worth reading carefully. (Every word of it!)

[betoobig]

No fear
"All of this could be changed and a smoother transition to a post-fiat currency world could manifest instead." I vote for this and more!
Let's go for it!
Much Love

[TODD & NORA]

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[Mitm]

How are you getting this information? God willing we'll get a smoother transition..

[wondering]

From my perspective, I don't understand the purpose of a post like this. It certainly generates fear, which is not helpful. I will continue to visualize the upliftment of all of us as our consciousness is increased. This is the only thing I can do, and it is not a small thing for any of us to do. What I will not do is dwell on fearful predictions that "may not come to be".

[Daozen]

I do not think these predictions are credible at all. I could go back to 2015, 2014, 2013, 2012 and all the way since the start of the internet, and find similar projected timelines that flat out didn't come true. I do not see any sources cited in the main document, nor do I see a proven track record, any names, or anything to suggest it is not pure invention.

Since forums have started there have been 'insiders' coming along telling us what the timeline is going to be. They are invariably incorrect. You have a right to your opinion like anyone else, but what gives you the authority to state that these events will come to pass with such certainty? You are writing wild predictions as if they are fact. TBH, it just comes off as an attempt to bluff people into keeping their heads down.

No doubt we are living in precarious times, but why write predictions with such an authoritative tone?

Previous posts and a link to a free Amazon Kindle e-book entitled NO MORE NUKES! can be found online at www.nomorenukes.com.

OK, checking previous posts... I don't see anything from 2015 except panic posts about ISIS. Where are ISIS now? How do we know they are not partially a creation of British and US intelligence?

Human beings have the capacity to create and bias their own timeline with focused intention and physical effort. When I see this post, I just see someone trying to sell us another used timeline. I do not think the next ten years will be plain sailing, but if you are not actively solving problems, or empowering people to make positive change, you may be part of the obstacle.

To anyone reading, when you see a prediction like this, remember you have a 'vote' as to whether it will come true or not.

[TODD & NORA]

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[Daozen]

Do you have a track record you can point to, either yourself or your source?

This post was intended to summarize the most likely scenario, but also to gauge the level of normalcy bias by forum members,

May I ask how you are doing this gauging, what is your definition of normalcy bias, who or what is doing the gauging? i.e. who correlates the data, and who do you give it to? When you gauge something, it as part of a study. Which means someone may be commissioning said study, unless I misread you.... Maybe you are just conducting this experiment on your own.

[TODD & NORA]

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[Daozen]

Well, at least you are smiling... (EDIT: You edited your post, previously there was a smiley there)

Here is a post you wrote in 2013 regarding Petraueus Romanus and a "looming" WWIII. It didn't happen.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...d-Up-on-Radar-

"Youtube is taking away all video responses forever". 2013:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...r-on-9-12-2013

Brent Crude goes to 100 then 150 USD (it is now at 52USD per barrel)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ice-US-Barrel-

No doubt there is serious manipulation going on in the commodities market, but given your track record of incorrect predictions on this forum, I see no reason to believe that this one will come true.

I have posted some duff predictions too (OPPT and Cobra) but I don't write as if I am an authority.

We need less prediction, and more intentions.

The same could be said by those with whom we are in regular contact...they don't care what topsiders think. I do to a certain extent which is one of the reasons I seem to serve as a bridge between the two civilizations, but that relatively unproductive predisposition is dwindling by the day as events unfold.

OK, so this is a hint that you are in contact with Inner Earthers, did I read that right? If this is true, are they aware of the human capacity to create timelines, and aware of the millions of people building a better timeline as we speak? If they don't care what humans think, why waste time posting threads like these?

[TODD & NORA]

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[Daozen]

But that is a standard negative predictor ploy, to write out a set of predictions and then tag on at the end "BTW, it's not gospel, we can change the future". You never said you were an authority, but you certainly implied it with your academic and "inevitablist" language. (Looks like inevitablist is a new word, hopefully readers know what I mean)

Thanks for the Thinking and Destiny book.

I am still unclear as to your relationship with Inner Earthers, regarding this quote:

The same could be said by those with whom we are in regular contact...they don't care what topsiders think. I do to a certain extent which is one of the reasons I seem to serve as a bridge between the two civilizations, but that relatively unproductive predisposition is dwindling by the day as events unfold.

My understanding of positive Inner Earthers is they are not so fatalistic. They see each day as an opportunity to create, and bias, a new timeline. Could you name the group you are in 'regular contact' with? Could it be the Agartha Network? If you don't want to name the group, that is understandable. But then I ask myself; why would the claim that these predictions come from Inner Earth give them more weight? Does living in a cavern make someone better at predicting? Not all subterraneans are on our side. Some want to keep the status quo as it is.

Take this quote, which I posted elsewhere. It may be representative of negative subterranean cities. So you might want to check who you are in contact with:

The OMEGA File

WAR OF THE CAVERNS, by Tom Lucas

If the importance of the caverns beneath Siloam Springs and Eureka Springs [CIA-Masonic-Mafia 'underground' drug capital in Arkansas...] is a bane of contention between the picturesque little towns, Hot Springs, Arkansas, would be the next logical choice for investigation. During the 1930 Prohibition days, it was frequently reported in a Chicago newspaper that Chicago gangsters traveled often to Hot Springs to go to the horse races and soak in the hot baths. It seems reasonable, based on what we think we know now, that during the lulls in recreational activities in Hot Springs, leaders of the various gangs made discrete trips to the caverns beneath the city to brag about their latest exploits and to bring offerings of gold. "To get a rough idea of what a cavern map of the U.S. would look like, simply pull out a road map of any state and identify all of the dense population centers, be they cities or hamlets. Where there is a city on the surface of the earth, there is a city in the caverns below that city...'as above, so below.' The co-relation breaks down as the size of the population centers dwindle... "In the early 1930's, the caverns of Hot Springs must have been the U.S. capital, or at least a regional area, for the marketers of illegal alcohol. "Cavern communities close to the surface are probably not completely self-supporting and require huge injections of funds to keep them going. These facilities lack the super-technologies of those caverns much deeper in the earth, and require much gold for trading with people within cities deeper in the Earth's crust. An ounce of gold in the underworld has as much or greater buying power than on the surface because the deeper super-productive cities need all the gold they can get and are willing to make generous trades for gold. This relieves the near-surface caverns of the burden of secreting goods and services from the surface world which would be a real security headache. "Cities beneath cities, and some hamlets, require injections of wealth from the surface that doesn't leave paper trails to their caverns. Each cavern has to develop and specialize in some particular money-making scam, or any number of sting embezzlements to bring in a constant stream of traceless cash and gold.

"One cavern, for example, specializes in addictive drug sales, another bank embezzlement and fraud, another stock market riggings, government money transfer schemes, along with other more esoteric and less known ways of generating profit that must eventually be converted to cash and gold that cannot be traced. The expression underground cash economy is probably a semi-cryptic phrase that refers directly to installations beneath cities notorious for dealing only in cash and gold. (Note: The notorious 'inner world' researcher and writer Richard Shaver did state that organized crime syndicates were one of the larger elements operating within the secret cavern systems, and that the term "the underworld" -- as a description of organized crime networks -- is more than just a coincidence. - Branton) "When America was young, developing underground caverns beneath American cities having a flavor of anarchy similar to communities developing on the surface, did not at the time have formal relations with each other... not even "wild-west" sub-surface communities in the American West... "as above, so below." "Over a period of time, cavern communities within regional areas geographically near each other found they had to get along with each other in a non-competitive manner, to encourage synergetic relationships which tended to raise the standard of living of each of the involved cavern communities. Each cavern specialized in an area of crime-monopoly expertise that wasn't in competition with neighboring caverns. If a regional area demonstrated it could keep surface dwellers in line -- e.g., keep them thinking the 'right' thoughts, stifling all real creativity, via the under-ground's crack people-management teams and organizations on the surface in the form of police departments, public schools, controlling secret societies, quack medical fraternities, polished propagandists and moralists, a sufficiently initiated CLERGY, etcetera -- then this regional area is allowed to incorporate into a semi-autonomous fiefdom that would eventually reflect on the surface as "a county" in the U.S... "As above, so below."

[onawah]

Please tell us why you think this, Bill. Thanks.

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)


This is worth reading carefully. (Every word of it!)

[peterpam]

Posted by onawah (here)
Please tell us why you think this, Bill. Thanks.

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)


This is worth reading carefully. (Every word of it!)

I have to admit, I am also curious about your reply.

[Snoweagle]

Posted by peterpam (here)

Posted by onawah (here)
Please tell us why you think this, Bill. Thanks.

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)


This is worth reading carefully. (Every word of it!)

I have to admit, I am also curious about your reply.

Why should Bill Ryan be singled out as the only valued opinion on this very sensitive and highly controversial topic. Bill Ryan is no messiah. He's our friend.

The true value of this posted article is dissemination into our own personal contacts and bringing back into this thread their comments. Singling out this sites founder, potentially harbours the inference that this community is lead by the founder which would make him responsible in law for the conduct in real life of our community. There would be ramifications beyond this thread which could be twisted to have this site closed down.

May I remind the community Bill had some time ago raised the whistle blower testimony regarding the Anglo Saxon thang, describing how the "west" was planning on giving China a "cold". Raising the issue back then raised awareness world wide and the collateral damage suffered by China was minimal.

My advice, for what it is worth, is share it with ten friends and provide feedback here. Ask your friends to do the same with ten others. Distribute the discussion as that is all it is at the moment.

In a nutshell, put it out there:-)

[peterpam]

Posted by Snoweagle (here)

Posted by peterpam (here)

Posted by onawah (here)
Please tell us why you think this, Bill. Thanks.

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)


This is worth reading carefully. (Every word of it!)

I have to admit, I am also curious about your reply.

Why should Bill Ryan be singled out as the only valued opinion on this very sensitive and highly controversial topic. Bill Ryan is no messiah. He's our friend.

The true value of this posted article is dissemination into our own personal contacts and bringing back into this thread their comments. Singling out this sites founder, potentially harbours the inference that this community is lead by the founder which would make him responsible in law for the conduct in real life of our community. There would be ramifications beyond this thread which could be twisted to have this site closed down.

May I remind the community Bill had some time ago raised the whistle blower testimony regarding the Anglo Saxon thang, describing how the "west" was planning on giving China a "cold". Raising the issue back then raised awareness world wide and the collateral damage suffered by China was minimal.

My advice, for what it is worth, is share it with ten friends and provide feedback here. Ask your friends to do the same with ten others. Distribute the discussion as that is all it is at the moment.

In a nutshell, put it out there:-)

Snoweagle, my curiosity about Bill's response was not because I see him as a messiah. I might have asked anyone who had that response why they felt so strongly about the OP. I am surprised that we would be called out as "singling out the sites owner" by simply initiating dialogue about the OP. In fact, I was really unaware that this is a " very sensitive and highly controversial topic". I was really just trying to understand the whole thing, and where the info came from. I don't see where asking one person a question means they are "singled out as the only valued opinion".

Now that you have indicated that you feel this information is very important, I will ask you why you feel this way? I have not formed an opinion either way, I am just wanting to learn something about it. For one thing I live on the West coast in the USA. Exactly where "the big one" is expected to blow, so there is a personal element as well. One thing I can see for sure, it does have a lot of emotional energy around it.

[Bill Ryan]

Good questions here. Not a problem.

Well, we're all sort of flying blind, as it were, every one of us: but some members here are a little better informed than others by virtue of their contacts and circumstances. Some posts on the forum are 100% speculation (or occasionally worse!) — while other members have better sources of information. That's really all I can say.

But no-one knows, maybe not even the puppeteers. Regarding 'spreading fear', that's not at all how I see it. Forgive me for repeating myself, because I've used this analogy before, here and on other posts... but the comparison is a good one:

If I'm guiding a client on a mountain (I used to do this, as a semi-professional mountaineer), and I sense an avalanche danger, or a coming storm, or that it may be too late in the day to make the summit and return safely to camp, that's not spreading fear. That's being responsible, and it would be my job. That's what my clients would be paying me for: to keep them safe.

Sometimes I'd make the call, and sometimes I'd consult with my clients, partners or friends to ask them what personal risk they were willing to take. But they would need to be well-informed of the facts.

Sometimes, the facts are just not certain; but I'd still need to inform them of possibilities.

I wouldn't be trying to make my clients afraid. I'd be wanting to take the best possible care of them so that they'd return to their families safely at the end of a memorable adventure.

Posted by Snoweagle (here)

Bill had some time ago raised the whistle blower testimony regarding the Anglo Saxon thang, describing how the "west" was planning on giving China a "cold". Raising the issue back then raised awareness world wide and the collateral damage suffered by China was minimal.

My advice, for what it is worth, is share it with ten friends and provide feedback here. Ask your friends to do the same with ten others. Distribute the discussion as that is all it is at the moment.

In a nutshell, put it out there:-)

Yes, exactly. The Anglo-Saxon Mission witness testimony was rock-solid and reliable. I deliberately spread it far and wide, confident that it'd be picked up by the intelligence agencies in China (who wouldn't be doing their job otherwise). Again, we'll never know, but it's not completely impossible that may have changed the game in some way.

[Bob]

April 2017 – Israel destroys Damascus as hostile neighbors align against Israel, while U.S. forces supplement Israeli forces to push back advances by Israel's neighboring rebel groups and state-sponsored forces.

One should pay attention and ask why Damascus.. The significance of "why Damascus" should become obvious. (a reference perspective here: http://archive.aramcoworld.com/issue...f.damascus.htm)

Damascus also holds special significance for Muslims. The city was the capital of the Umayyad state, which ruled during an important part of Islam's greatest cultural flowering. It is one of three main gathering places, along with Baghdad and Cairo, for pilgrims to Makka. And a Damascus cemetery holds the grave of Bilal, the Prophet's muezzin (See Aramco World , July-August 1983).

Local folklore holds that, on Judgment Day, Jesus will descend to earth upon the eastern minaret, named for him, of Damas-cus's Umayyad Mosque - a belief that recently caused consternation, during renovation in the old city, among Christian merchants forced to vacate their shops near the minaret and thus relinquish proximity to the site of the Second Coming. Another local tradition, however, specifies the place of Jesus's return as the minaret at Bab al-Sharqi, the Eastern Gate.

[onawah]

The reason I asked for Bill to expand on his comment is because he is more well-informed than the average forum member, has lots of well-informed personal contacts that most of us don't have, has made keeping an eye out for the best information pretty much a full time job, and has proven himself to be an integral individual with well-reasoned and well thought-out opinions.
If Avalon's founder was any less than a good source of information and opinions and a fair-minded individual, the forum would be all the poorer for it, so I am grateful we have Bill and grateful that he is willing to share here and take part in a hands-on manner.
I think that sums it up, and I can't imagine why anyone would have a problem with that.
(In former days, there was a lot of friction between the Mods and forum members. I'm glad those days are past, and I hope that remains the case! )

Posted by Snoweagle (here)

Posted by peterpam (here)

Posted by onawah (here)
Please tell us why you think this, Bill. Thanks.

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)


This is worth reading carefully. (Every word of it!)

I have to admit, I am also curious about your reply.

Why should Bill Ryan be singled out as the only valued opinion on this very sensitive and highly controversial topic. Bill Ryan is no messiah. He's our friend.

The true value of this posted article is dissemination into our own personal contacts and bringing back into this thread their comments. Singling out this sites founder, potentially harbours the inference that this community is lead by the founder which would make him responsible in law for the conduct in real life of our community. There would be ramifications beyond this thread which could be twisted to have this site closed down.

May I remind the community Bill had some time ago raised the whistle blower testimony regarding the Anglo Saxon thang, describing how the "west" was planning on giving China a "cold". Raising the issue back then raised awareness world wide and the collateral damage suffered by China was minimal.

My advice, for what it is worth, is share it with ten friends and provide feedback here. Ask your friends to do the same with ten others. Distribute the discussion as that is all it is at the moment.

In a nutshell, put it out there:-)