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    Default Re: The Mandela Effect: What does it mean??

    I was big into egyptology as a kid, and I recall the two snakes.

    That said, it was 2001 when I encountered the effect, actually remembering reports of him dying in prison a few years prior.
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    Quote Posted by Didgevillage (here)
    I thought there was only one snake.
    There is. The others a vulture.
    Just as every cop is a criminal
    And all the sinners saints

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Thanks for bumping this. I'll definitely listen to the video.

    I'm personally 100% convinced there was some kind of weird glitch in the spacetime matrix that showed up in subtle ways over a several-year period.

    But now it's all died down again, and as best I know there are no new 'Mandela Effects' being reported. It's actually very important that this whole fascinating phenomenon isn't forgotten or dismissed.

    Do also see this interesting thread, with an equally interesting discussion:
    I too believe that there was some glitch in the space time matrix as you say. What I think has died down is the discussion and why would that be? Because all of the strong changes have been brought forward and debated by the two groups. (The 2 groups being those whose remember from one scenario and those of the other.)

    There are a couple things that really stand out for me;

    1) As is noticed, it has died down. It has been discussed and no new changes are coming forward except graphic changes in brands etc., which would/could change anyway. I believe that the reason that it has died down is because it was something that actually happened. There was a substantial change that occurred. If it was just a problem with people's memories why would it ever stop? Therefore I believe that this simple fact supports the idea that something did happen and it wasn't just some people remembering incorrectly. (Of course some of the changes mentioned by people were the result of bad memories, but there are strong examples that go against that.)

    2) The majority of the changes (if not all) are related to popular culture. If I was part of an experiment to test the affects of changing a timeline, I would not want to tamper with things that would alter the world in a big way. I would change things that many people new about and would/could easily discuss. Changing a line in a movie or the colour of a logo would not alter history in a huge way. (Was the Swastika switched out with another character? Were any country's flags changed?)

    3) I find it fascinating that there are 2 distinct groups (at least that is what I have seen) where one group of people are aware of almost all of the changes and the other group does not see any changes. (There are some things that a person just does not know because they are not familiar with the topic that changed.)

    My entire family sees the changes. We are all affected the same.

    The big thing with us was the Berenstein Bears. I read the books to my kids when they were little. We watched the TV show. Embarrassingly, my family was big on "poop" jokes. IF The Berenstein Bears were indeed The Berenstain Bears, they would be the subject of Bear Poop-Stain jokes.

    When we discovered the mandela effect, I searched our storage for The Berenstein Bears book. When I found it, it was titled The Berenstain Bears.

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    In looking over the Mandela threads and re-reading them I have found new information that I must have missed the first time. (or it has recently changed, which wouldn't surprise me at this point.)

    In WW2 Japan bombed North America with balloon bombs? WTH?

    So I suppose helping my kids with their history homework will only cause problems.

    Things have continued to be weird in our lives and I often joke to my wife that we are on the wrong planet - I guess I shouldn't use that joke anymore.

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    Quote Posted by Patient (here)

    In WW2 Japan bombed North America with balloon bombs? WTH?
    My memory isn't so good, but yes, (I was taught), that Japan did send up balloons during WWII. The jet stream carried them across the ocean to the west coast of the USA. I believe only one or two actually made it and exploded harmlessly away from anything. It was a non-event type of thing, so it really doesn't get any mention in the history books. And rightly doesn't merit any mention either.
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    Commonly held false memories
    False memories can sometimes be shared by multiple people.[32][33] In 2010 this was dubbed the "Mandela Effect" by self-described "paranormal consultant" Fiona Broome, in reference to a false memory she reported of the death of South African leader Nelson Mandela in the 1980s (who was at the time still alive), which she claimed was shared by "perhaps thousands" of other people.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_memory


    The Mandela effect is the pseudoscientific belief that some differences between one's memories and the real world are caused by changes to past events in the timeline. Many Mandela effect believers believe it is caused by accidental travel between alternate universes, although some others propose that history has been deliberately altered after the fact by malicious extradimensional beings within the same timeline or by experiments at CERN.
    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Mandela_effect

    Goes to show who is the enemy of human awakening.
    I personally don't care about recent changes in popular culture, but historical changes that go thousands of years such as Bible verses and Pharaoh masks mean timeline shifts are profound.

    (I don't like to discuss "geographic changes" because the positions of Japan, Korea, NZ, etc., haven't changed, as far as I know. This will only fuel the "false memories" argument. I must admit, though, I thought Sri-Lanka or Ceylon was southwest of India.)

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    Quote Posted by Didgevillage (here)
    Commonly held false memories
    False memories can sometimes be shared by multiple people.[32][33] In 2010 this was dubbed the "Mandela Effect" by self-described "paranormal consultant" Fiona Broome, in reference to a false memory she reported of the death of South African leader Nelson Mandela in the 1980s (who was at the time still alive), which she claimed was shared by "perhaps thousands" of other people.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_memory


    The Mandela effect is the pseudoscientific belief that some differences between one's memories and the real world are caused by changes to past events in the timeline. Many Mandela effect believers believe it is caused by accidental travel between alternate universes, although some others propose that history has been deliberately altered after the fact by malicious extradimensional beings within the same timeline or by experiments at CERN.
    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Mandela_effect

    Goes to show who is the enemy of human awakening.
    I personally don't care about recent changes in popular culture, but historical changes that go thousands of years such as Bible verses and Pharaoh masks mean timeline shifts are profound.

    (I don't like to discuss "geographic changes" because the positions of Japan, Korea, NZ, etc., haven't changed, as far as I know. This will only fuel the "false memories" argument. I must admit, though, I thought Sri-Lanka or Ceylon was southwest of India.)
    Read all the posts and the different threads on this topic. Read the research https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0p...VCQTlmdGs/view that ruled out false memory syndrome. When you say geography has not changed it's clear you have no idea what this is really about.

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    Savannah,
    I didn't say "geography has not changed."
    I simply said I don't like to discuss it, because it can give the counter-arguments to Mandela effect more ammunition.
    (Geography may have changed in some locations.)

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    Something strange has happened for me regarding the Mandela effect. I've experienced a reversal of one of the previously reported changes. Yesterday while reading through this thread, I noticed that The Berentain Bears has flip flopped again. Let me begin from the beginning. I distinctly remember Berenstain from my childhood, and I even owned the books. Fast forward to the early 2000s, I think it was 2003 to be exact, I was in my early 20s, and I was reminiscing about this childhood book and went online to search for it. I was shocked to see it spelled as Berenstein all over the internet. I couldn't find a single instance of it spelled Berenstain. I had a really hard time accepting this. All those "E"s in the name just did not look right, and the thought that I and numerous others had been pronouncing it wrong did not sit well. I thought I was losing mind. I eventually forgot about this and moved on with my life. Fast forward again to early 2016. I became aware of the Mandela Effect and began researching it. I was floored to discover that The Berenstein bears were one of the known effects. At this time the consensus was still that Berenstein was the correct and current spelling and Berenstain was the mis-recollected version. A minority of people remembered Berenstain and I was part that group. I was very surprised that I had noticed this 13 years earlier and tried to think back to 2003 to see if I had noticed any other anomalies back then but nothing came to mind. I also remember some people on various forums mocking those who remembered it as Berenstain because it sounded so absurd to them. I made a determination to put Berenstain out of my head and to accept that it was now Berenstein.

    Now imagine my surprise when I was perusing this thread yesterday, and discovered that the currently accepted version is now Berenstain. I feel like I'm losing my mind all over again! When the heck did this happen? I mean, I was obsessed with this particular Mandela effect back in 2003, and again in 2016 and I know without a shadow of a doubt what I saw, what I read, what I was thinking both those times, so what now?? None of the other effects seem to have changed back from what they were in 2016 that I've noticed, just Berenstain, but I haven't conducted a thorough investigation. Has anyone else had this experience or anything similar?
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    Very interesting and mind bending experience Kejaranhybrid. You are the first I have seen with this particular experience.

    When I first heard of the Mandella Effect I called a friend with a bunch of kids, some still young, and asked her which was the correct spelling. She thought it was a bit odd but told me it was with the 'e'. So I asked her to go get one of the books and she was shocked to find the 'a' version on her shelves. She texted her older kids and they all remember the 'e' version.

    I just looked and it's still the 'a' spelling.

    I asked about Mandella and she remembers he died in jail. I remember his release from jail with much excitement and lots of celebration. Also people on the streets of NYC wearing t-shirts celebrating such.

    There is a movie, Goodby Bafana, where a prison guard eventually befriends Mandella. One scene shows Mandella walking out of the prison, using original footage, while a great song plays in the background.



    I loved the song and have it in my collection.

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    I definitely remember the Berenstein Bears. My last name ends with the same six letters, nstein.

    I also clearly remember at some point years later, seeing one of the books somewhere, either in a friend’s house or in a bookstore and noticing the spelling was Berenstain. I thought, “Hmm.. that’s funny..”

    I also very clearly remember when Mandela appeared in the news as having been released from prison. I turned to my then-wife and she was looking at me with the same stunned expression. We both exclaimed at the same time something to the effect of, "But wait, I thought he died in prison!"
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    Now the Mandela Effect is coming to you on the big screen enter the movie Yesterday. Looks like the man character jumped timelines.


    Synopsis

    Yesterday, everyone knew The Beatles. Today, only Jack remembers their songs. Jack Malik (Himesh Patel, BBC’s Eastenders) is a struggling singer-songwriter in a tiny English seaside town whose dreams of fame are rapidly fading, despite the fierce devotion and support of his childhood best friend, Ellie (Lily James, Mama Mia! Here We Go Again). Then, after a freak bus accident during a mysterious global blackout, Jack wakes up to discover that The Beatles have never existed … and he finds himself with a very complicated problem, indeed. With the door between his old life and his new closing, Jack will need to get back to where he once belonged and prove that all you need is love.


    YESTERDAY

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    Watch the official trailer for Yesterday, a comedy movie starring Lily James and Ed Sheeran. In theaters June 27, 2019.
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