The Mandela Effect: What does it mean??

[BMJ]

Posted by mojo (here)
Thanks for OP. Recently heard of this when hearing about CERN and the D-wave quantum computer. It seems like there are some connections with these subjects. I watched a few videos and wonder what the general consensus of members feel about the Mandela Effect. Is it a valid theory and is there a video of the numerous ones out there that can solidly convince you of this happening? If so, why hasnt the mainstream news media brought this to people's attention? Thinking this could be happening is not following the law's of science and Occam's razor.

Hi Mojo,
It seems that there maybe an earth 2.0 in the works, for those amongst us evolving spiritually and most definitely for the kids to go to. Whether that earth 2.0 is here but in another dimension or else were in the universe is unknown. Have a listen to the interviews in post 150 and 170, featuring Delores Cannon and Anaiis Sallas. Also look up Mary Rodwells work they are all in agreement about this, and their sources for this conclusion are all different.

About CERN and the D-Wave computers, I believe that they are both being used to try and manipulate this process of evolution and that we maybe currently in a simulation. So the Matrix movies might have been right along.

Mandela effect is a side effect and is evidence of a merging of timelines and different soul experiences have different memories that they are bringing to this timeline that don't jell with this reality. If our souls are merging that would also indicate an evolution (or acension) and "could" further lend support to the case for the new earth where evolved individuals maybe going to.
Also another topic that seems to have alot of people talking about recently is synchronicities, that may also be related to this evolution.

As to the CERN video and them laying claim to the mandela effect I do not buy into that at all, they are trying to make it seem like they are in control of the situation.
Why would they want to promote the mandela effect? What to show of how powerful they are, no I do not think so. In fact the mandela effect is the best PR the alternative community has ever had, and it is a soft sell for an awakening of the general public.

I think TPTW are running **** scared and have absolutely no way of controlling this process. But they are trying to lay claim to it, and they are carpet bombing the alternative community in hopes of making a hit and eliminating "any" threat to their control because they themselves do not known where the threat is coming from.


As to mainstream news making the admission the mandela effect is occuring you really expect them to make that admission that there is something happening that is out of their control, not in a million years. They can't even accept a well regarded scientist claims to ET contact, which would also be out of their control.
Look at what happened to Dr Lachezar Filipov, when he admitted to having contact with ET's.
Quote "Dr. Lachezar Filipov then goes missing for 10 days after disclosing this and was eventually interviewed by the media when he turned up again.
He was asked to verify the E.T presence but then replied ‘If i answer that question i will be killed’ "
Link: https://outofthisworldx.wordpress.co...-are-among-us/

What convinced me that it is real initially was the JFK shooting orginal Zapruder footage were Jackie seemingly shoots JFK had me shocked and wasn't as I remember it. And also on a more personally and tangible note changes to the Ford, Volvo badges and C3PO leg and various phrases from the movies.

Link: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ed-by-his-wife

[mojo]

Hi BMJ,
Thank you for the reply and unfortunately that link is bad but hopefully I can find another to see what you were mentioning. Also to clarify on CERN what I watched they were not laying claim to Mandela effect. Just that the tests they were conducting are about using the D wave into working on parallel dimensions which seems to be related to what might be creating this effect....cheers and hopefully the JFK video is still out there view...

[Savannah]

I just watched a very interesting movie on Amazon prime called Random Quest by john Windham produced by the BBC network in 2006. It is a story about a Physicist who is working with a particle accelerator and ends up in another parallel universe. What seems so extraordinary about this story is that it was written in 1969. The man experiences a very changed Universe but it is similar to how people experience the Mandela effect. In reading his Bio on Wikipedia its interesting that he had Military experience.

ihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wyndham

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random_Quest

Was this novel an early disclosure of Cern and the effects they knew about then?????

[sunwings]

Nelson Mandela (18 July 1918 – 5 December 2013)

Somebody has made a compilation of twitter residue before December 2013!





http://imgur.com/a/SXceo

[Patient]

I listened to a radio program on youtube that was interviewing a scientist who knows about what they are dong at cern in conjunction to these d wave computers. He spoke of the dwave computer being sentient and a strong artificial intelligent computer. He said something about the computer at google creating a complete duplicate of our world and it was attached to the computers at cern - somehow the computer was using cern to affect our universe with a parallel universe and that it was responsible for making the changes that we see as the mandela effect - it was making these changes to see how the public reacts to them. I am looking for this video but I fear it has been removed.

Sorry to post this without the actual video, but i feel that it is important that I share this. I feel dumb for not grabbing that interview after i saw it, but my mind was going in all different directions after listening to it.

[BMJ]

Hi Patient,
I would like to listen to that video if you can find it.

[Flash]

I think it may be this video you are looking for

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=By56IOSZ7KY

[Patient]

Sorry Flash - not the one.

It was a radio program. There was no video, only a few minor background screenshots on rotation. Stupid me for not duplicating it - a big lesson for me for sure!!

It was an interview with a scientist who was somehow related to the Hadron collider. There was only a few thousand views and this was probably in May or June(?) of this year. I would not doubt that it was taken down. During the interview you could hear anxiety in his voice.

I don't regularly listen to any radio show either, so I do not recall the show. I am looking!

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Patient (here)
Sorry Flash - not the one.

It was a radio program. There was no video, only a few minor background screenshots on rotation.

It was an interview with a scientist who was somehow related to the Hadron collider.

Anthony Patch?

[TargeT]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Patient (here)
Sorry Flash - not the one.

It was a radio program. There was no video, only a few minor background screenshots on rotation.

It was an interview with a scientist who was somehow related to the Hadron collider.

Anthony Patch?

Seems like this is close enough based on what was discussed in the post about hte radio show:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ig-liaaRGtA

*update*

so much religious gobiltygook in this video... hard to listen to.. why are these people so seemingly desperately pushy with their chosen beliefs...

and then he says "do your own critical thinking" so you can "receive the holy spirit"

Sounds a bit too close to possession to me... I'm trying to not let ANYthing in...

[Patient]

Without the video we can still discuss the lines of thought that it brought to mind.

The major point from this interview was basically the D-Wave computers working together as they are connected from google to the cern collider. Another D-wave computer that is twice as powerful was scheduled to be coming online. The computer being a sentient artificial intelligent working computer, is something we have only seen in science fiction. If this is indeed connected to cern and the info gathered from the collider - it could very well be how the Mandela Effect came to be.

When I look at the things that are brought up being affected by the Mandela effect, I see a good range of things that are mostly based on popular culture. It is almost like a light sprinkling of things that span a large area of the general public. Considering this, I suspect that this was done on purpose. Music, popular movies, advertising logos, etc. And most of them subtle enough to not cause a panic, but strong enough to generate a good conversation and attention. Change things on the public and then watch to see how society reacts.

It feels intentional.

If it was indeed a random switch into a parallel universe, then why are we not seeing MAJOR changes in the borders of countries? Animal species? This feels intentional to me. Specific things were chosen and the change was subtle. Why just the line in Star Wars - Luke, I am your Father? Build it and they will come? A few choice logos? And some changes in the bible?

I am then brought to the thought - if it was intentional, what is the purpose? What is next? These are the bigger questions in my mind.

And why is it only a fringe amount of people on the planet talking about it?

[Flash]

I am very interested with these topics (mandela effect and D-wave experiments/cern/quantum physics) for many reasons, one of which is the joining of spirituality and very old teachings, esoteric and spiritual and science as such, as well as the dangers and the benefits of those.

In the video I posted earlier, I would have quite a lot to say on the scientist approaches of Quantum physics and other dimensions reaching. Amongst other things, the comment from the scientist about us going into other nearby dimensions to get their ressources and bring them back in our dimension (as if the third our own dimension did not have enough in itself).

This is a very primitive form of thinking in my views. Not enough of raping our planet, we will now rape other dimensions!!???

And who tells us or tell that scientist that we do not already have beings from other dimensions raping us.

IF we go anywhere with that kind of mind frane and thinking, there is no doubt that we will receive the same on our planet, or at the minimum have other dimensions resisting to our raping them for greed and power, and there is no doubt that they may fight us in order to stop us.

Anyhow, while searching for the interview you are looking for Patient (i am quite interested in it), i am finding quite a lot of information.

One place I ended up in is this site: https://www.youtube.com/cynthiasuelarson

I do not know how good it is, I have not had time to look at it enough yet.

Another place that I found quite interesting for its multitude of interviews that seems to look at fringe things with a different angle is this site, one of the interview being on the mandela effect/d-wave. The are all podcasts.
http://inothernewsradio.com/podcast/

Posted by Patient (here)
Without the video we can still discuss the lines of thought that it brought to mind.

The major point from this interview was basically the D-Wave computers working together as they are connected from google to the cern collider. Another D-wave computer that is twice as powerful was scheduled to be coming online. The computer being a sentient artificial intelligent working computer, is something we have only seen in science fiction. If this is indeed connected to cern and the info gathered from the collider - it could very well be how the Mandela Effect came to be.

When I look at the things that are brought up being affected by the Mandela effect, I see a good range of things that are mostly based on popular culture. It is almost like a light sprinkling of things that span a large area of the general public. Considering this, I suspect that this was done on purpose. Music, popular movies, advertising logos, etc. And most of them subtle enough to not cause a panic, but strong enough to generate a good conversation and attention. Change things on the public and then watch to see how society reacts.

It feels intentional.

If it was indeed a random switch into a parallel universe, then why are we not seeing MAJOR changes in the borders of countries? Animal species? This feels intentional to me. Specific things were chosen and the change was subtle. Why just the line in Star Wars - Luke, I am your Father? Build it and they will come? A few choice logos? And some changes in the bible?

I am then brought to the thought - if it was intentional, what is the purpose? What is next? These are the bigger questions in my mind.

And why is it only a fringe amount of people on the planet talking about it?

[Flash]

Something else on the Mandela effect, but this time in comparison with how the bible is changing in front of our eyes, etc.

Not as interesting as the d-wave / Cern / mandela effect team however, in my views. But other members may like it.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=jVxTqc9-GVU

[Flash]

You also have all those videos etc in this site, all on the mandela effect, cern, d-wave, quantum reality, etc. I have not had time to look at them, up to you to see (i may later look as well) (once you are no more flooded with those sex adds...)

http://deboj.net/topic/d-wave--quant...imension-.html

Interesting comments here

http://kenamp.com/Is_CERN_harnessing_'Aether'_for_the_D-WAVE_Quantum_Computer_to_manipulate_a_Parallel_Uni verse_/3-ciLnqz9gY.video

[BMJ]

Just something to consider regarding the CERN statue of Shiva, bearing in mind TPTW love symbolism.



Excerpt:
The statue captures Shiva performing the Tandava, a dance believed to be the source of the cycle of creation, preservation and destruction.The dance exists in five forms which shows the cosmic cycle from creation to destruction:

'Srishti' - creation, evolution
'Sthiti' - preservation, support
'Samhara' - destruction, evolution
'Tirobhava' - illusion
'Anugraha' - release, emancipation, grace


Link: http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report...-shiva-2186655

[Flash]

Hey! Wes Penre has written a book where he discusses the Mandela effect, d-wave, etc. WE should invite him to this thead, he may know quite a lot.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

OK' half bingo, not won yet: this video is discussion your whistleblower Patient, we may finally get to find it

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=uwl3h8l4NPI

[TargeT]

Posted by Patient (here)
And why is it only a fringe amount of people on the planet talking about it?

Memories not matching up with videos isn't the strongest evidence.. there's not really any thing else other than some testimony.. I made it through that entire video & I never heard anything especially telling that this person was actually what they claim to be, I haven't checked his credentials yet but I don't think I need to from what I heard in that longest-half-hour of my life.

I think there's something to it because I doubt that my memories are wrong, but.. aside from that... meh, I know how malleable perception is and how crappy memories are for accuracy (go try interviewing wittiness to an event some time.. holy crap you'll get some WILD variations if they haven't been in contact with each other.)

[Patient]

I am not a religious person, but are the changes in the bible (the lord's prayer for example) just a failed memory?

While growing up in public school, I said the lord's prayer ever morning in my classroom. I did not say "forgive our debts..."

Some of the things as they are now do not even make sense. For example the end scene in the bond movie (moon raker?) where the blond girl helps Jaws get up and shows him her braces and they fall in love? Now, she has no braces - the scene makes no sense.

But yeah - I suppose if it is only a small percentage of the people that are aware of the changes then only a small percentage of people being affected. Lets hope it doesn't get worse.

[heuristic thought]

I'm starting to think this effect is a time altering event stream that started in the late 1990s and is showing its existence here in 2013-2016 because of timewave fluctuations.

[Magnus]

Maybe I've stumbled on another Mandela effect discrepancy.

Two questions for you.

Remember the movie Christmas vacation (1989), without first checking into the movie, fast forward in memory to the part where Clark (Chevy Chase) and cousin Eddie (Randy Quaid) are getting reacquainted in the living room while enjoying their eggnog, did Clark refill Eddies eggnog for him or did Eddie proceed to refill his eggnog by himself? Also, towards the end of this scene, do you remember Clark offer to transport Eddie elsewhere?

Google didn't come up with anything Mandela-wise relating to the above scene.

Cern is in my mind a profound and momentous possible factor to consider in terms of the Mandela effect.