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    Unhappy Intel computers hide another CPU that can take over your machine

    "Recent Intel x86 processors implement a secret, powerful control mechanism that runs on a separate chip that no one is allowed to audit or examine."

    http://boingboing.net/2016/06/15/int...ship-with.html

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    Default Re: Intel computers hide another CPU that can take over your machine

    Worth a thread on it's own. I've been doing my own reading about Google today, another military industrial corporation masquerading as a cute company.....

    "Intel", hiding in plain view. And what is Google's parent company now called? Alphabet.

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    Default Re: Intel computers hide another CPU that can take over your machine

    I mentioned, on this forum, at various times and places.... that this was being done with telecommunications hardware, to my direct communicated knowledge, since approx 1993.

    Ie, that I've known of this secondary control set and feature that comes in on normal (inescapable) signal pathways, for 23 years.

    Consider the takeover story of Cisco, as they are now -the- internet backbone company.

    The origins go all the way back to the Atlas rocket program and how the scientists involved (the first hackers) created the basis for the arpanet. (another story I received first hand)

    Thus, as the logic dominoes fall, the idea of Chinese chipsets (or whatever) that might do unwanted things, just got very very real.



    Esoterically, it's a case of as above, so below: You...are a hybrid... a foreign program inserted as an overlay on a biological. In a holographic seeming temporally inclined dimensional 'space'.

    The biological has override programs. Fear, love, hate, pain, reflex, complex processing systems like the gut, etc...

    We call some leveraged activations of some of those override features that are always active and running in the biological...we call them... 'false flags'.
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    I mentioned, on this forum, at various times and places.... that this was being done with telecommunications hardware, to my direct communicated knowledge, since approx 1993.
    Similarly I've known of the parallel management channels in Intel processors, visible in such features as Wake-On LAN for Intel®, for at least a couple of decades, and with more advanced system management facilities in Intel's server line of CPU's (Xeon and Itanium).

    That's an interesting analogy you make between the hybrid layering of humanity, and these parallel control channels in networking and processing hardware. Thanks.

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    Similarly I've known of the parallel management channels in Intel processors, visible in such features as Wake-On LAN for Intel®, for at least a couple of decades, and with more advanced system management facilities in Intel's server line of CPU's (Xeon and Itanium).
    And, of course, there's another example of a covert layered control channel hiding in plain sight - there is increasing use of virtual machines, presently in the server world, and tentatively in the desktop personal computer world (such as with Qubes and Wine).

    In a virtual machine, the "computer" you think you are using is running on top of another layer of software, that has complete control over everything coming in and out of the virtualized computer. My Linode.com "box" that I use to support several websites, such as projectavalonstatus.net, is such a virtual box, allowing me to stop, and start, and reconfigure the "server" (virtualized computer running inside an actual server somewhere inside Linode.com) at will, from my North Texas trailer, with no physical contact or involvement by real human Linode employees.

    In short, most any sufficiently advanced technology is capable of such magic layering ... indeed ... that layering of structure is ubiquitous in our universe. In the grand scheme of things, the layers are either self-organizing and forming, or created by some higher power. Then we humans, and apparently other intelligent beings such as might have crafted us humans, construct more such layers, of more mundane natures.

    Such layering creates opportunities for out-of-channel information sharing and control, invisible to those confined to some other layer.
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    Such layering creates opportunities for out-of-channel information sharing and control, invisible to those confined to some other layer.
    Yet another example: the presently infamous "spooky action at a distance" discussed in quantum mechanics is likely, in my view, just another example of something that likely could be described easily using the layer of physical ordering once known as the "aether", but which seems magical when we insist on explaining it using only some other layer, such as that of matter and mathematically abstracted fields such as electro-magnetism, gravity, strong and weak forces.

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    I have long thought that the key to the organization of computer software and hardware was the organization of the human individuals, teams, businesses, etc that created that software and hardware.

    Carmody's point, before I wander too far off topic, seems to me to be that this same rule of thumb applies to the organization of the "wetware" known as humans. Our organization, both as individual beings and as civilizations, likely reflects the ordering and organization of higher entities that have played critical defining roles in our creation and evolution.

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    This article is jaw dropping. This whole design appears to be built around remotely executing any process on any target Intel X86 based system for any duty anywhere at any time with maximum access to the target, limiting the access to these processes and encrypting the activities so hard that it is impossible do decode the process and the communication.

    This really appears to be some kind of globally controlled military control mechanism. This is very disturbing in many ways...

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    Quote Posted by WhiteLove (here)
    This article is jaw dropping. This whole design appears to be built around remotely executing any process on any target Intel X86 based system for any duty anywhere at any time with maximum access to the target, limiting the access to these processes and encrypting the activities so hard that it is impossible do decode the process and the communication.

    This really appears to be some kind of globally controlled military control mechanism. This is very disturbing in many ways...
    The majority of all mainframe and individual telecommunications hardware from the big suppliers, in all of the western world... was built this way since approximately 1995. they did not have the data handling capacity at the time, so the usage was selective. Then. Not now. Now we have all of it recorded and kept. All.

    Computers are late to the game as they are the newest kids on the block. But they have moved up fast, to surpass the telecommunications systems of the recent past.



    The attack is against encrypted software, or encrypted data, as the encryption, if well done, can have the data being passed through any system ---without being in any sort of danger of being decoded or understood.
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    Quote Posted by WhiteLove (here)
    This article is jaw dropping. This whole design appears to be built around remotely executing any process on any target Intel X86 based system for any duty anywhere at any time with maximum access to the target, limiting the access to these processes and encrypting the activities so hard that it is impossible do decode the process and the communication.
    It (this layered structure) made perfectly good sense to me at the time, when I was involved in designing and developing systems for use by large corporate and government customers. It was, and remains, important to those customers to be able to manage their computation, storage, communication, sensory and robotic resources, in a separate control layer, as resources per se, distinct from and with zero impact on the specific programs running within them.

    Another example might be suggestive. A large trucking, rail and shipping firm will want to manage its trucks, railcars, containers, and ships, keeping track of and controlling what's where, doing what, independently of, but controlling and monitoriing, what individual truck drivers, rail engineers and ship crew might be doing.

    The existence of such layered control and monitoring systems is not ipso facto evil ... but such existence can be evidence of an underlying control structure over human civilization that may well be, in human terms, quite evil.

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    This article is jaw dropping. This whole design appears to be built around remotely executing any process on any target Intel X86 based system for any duty anywhere at any time with maximum access to the target, limiting the access to these processes and encrypting the activities so hard that it is impossible do decode the process and the communication.
    It (this layered structure) made perfectly good sense to me at the time, when I was involved in designing and developing systems for use by large corporate and government customers. It was, and remains, important to those customers to be able to manage their computation, storage, communication, sensory and robotic resources, in a separate control layer, as resources per se, distinct from and with zero unintended impact on the specific programs running within them.

    Another example might be suggestive. A large trucking, rail and shipping firm will want to manage its trucks, railcars, containers, and ships, keeping track of and controlling what's where, doing what, independently of, but controlling and monitoriing, what individual truck drivers, rail engineers and ship crew might be doing.

    The existence of such layered control and monitoring systems is not ipso facto evil ... but such existence can be evidence of an underlying control structure over human civilization that may well be, in human terms, quite evil.
    You might even say that the systems are useless or without a good half or more of their potential function available, if they did not have it.

    In the case of the average person's concern, a backdoor is potential for abuse and cannot be tolerated, like a place on the body where a virus can enter and wreak havoc.

    Trust has to be earned, and the powers at large are so far down the untrustable and devious/malicious end of the pier... that it seems they'll never get to neutral in the next thousand years, If at all.
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    Default Re: Intel computers hide another CPU that can take over your machine

    There is also a secondary system in every phone:
    http://www.osnews.com/story/27416/Th...y_mobile_phone

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    In the case of the average person's concern, a backdoor is potential for abuse and cannot be tolerated, like a place on the body where a virus can enter and wreak havoc.

    Trust has to be earned, and the powers at large are so far down the untrustable and devious/malicious end of the pier... that it seems they'll never get to neutral in the next thousand years, If at all.
    Trust, and understanding/awareness.

    What we do not understand is often threatening ... strange things go bump in the darkness of our confusion. Sometimes the resulting fear is entirely appropriate, sometimes not.

    When we do understand, we can distinguish the sound of our family cat jumping up on the dresser to take a nap on a soft pile of clothes, from the sound of a burglar or "man-in-black" abductor. Our response can be more refined and appropriate, and our fears less vague, ubiquitous and often misplaced.

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    There is also a secondary system in every phone:
    http://www.osnews.com/story/27416/Th...y_mobile_phone
    Nice one. Another instance of such a secondary system is being created as we write, in programmable home routers: MIPS VM tech lets routers stay open despite new FCC rules.

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    Default Re: Intel computers hide another CPU that can take over your machine

    I'm sure this same technology is in AMD-processors as well although it's not mentioned here. But it's for our benefit of course, or at least that's what they're trying to tell us.

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    Carmody says "Now we have all of it recorded and kept. All." What a monumental chore, cataloging and retrieving such an Everest of data!
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    ^^^ Google and its fame search engine is their friend...
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    I'm sure this same technology is in AMD-processors as well although it's not mentioned here. But it's for our benefit of course, or at least that's what they're trying to tell us.
    I was just thinking about going AMD for that very reason. to get away from Intel. but....I'd have to research that first.
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    That's why I like person to person communication, internet is not safe anymore !

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    I was just thinking about going AMD for that very reason. to get away from Intel. but....I'd have to research that first.
    Let us know if you figure anything out.

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