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    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    This may be my last word on this matter, posted on the other thread:
    Quote Posted by araucaria (here)
    The latest polls predicted a possible hung parliament with highly organized tactical voting expected to be hugely effective.
    How to turn this into a Tory landslide ? Easy peasy.

    You conduct exit polls in all the close constituencies, using facsimile ballot papers identical to the real thing – true, I read it yesterday, and no doubt thousands can testify to it. You then have all day to prepare to substitute real ballot papers with these forged ones – Tories get to vote twice, others not at all.

    These exit polls were themselves criminal, a big No No. And a big smoking gun: there can have been no other motive behind such a massive forgery than a Con landslide. The thousands of victims need to file a complaint. But they will be seen as bad losers: it is all those dumb northerners’ fault. And for once the conspiracy theorists won’t be interested, because those losers are on the winning side.


    A very slick piece of work.

    @Araucaria,

    I read that yesterday and said to myself, 'Oh, no, it can't be true!', but you vocalised it. I had heard tales of ballot-box stuffing occurring in previous elections, but this...!

    For many years, I've felt that the Anglo-Saxons are sheep who allow themselves to be led astray by the worst of masters, whether they be Johnson, Trump or Trudeau.

    I just wish the British would get off their collective backsides and do what the Gilet Jaunes did in France. That time will come, I guess, but by then it could be too late.

    As to responsibility for all this, I could be persuaded to glance in the direction of a certain well-known henchman Boris appointed to his No. 10 office...

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    N.L.P. won.
    Neuro linguistic programing---repitition repitition and a style of vocal delivery that holds the attention--gives it impact.
    Man made the dream and the dream made the man--I hope Boris rises to the occasion---you can be sure Nicola Sturgeon will.
    Scotland may get an influxof remainers if home rule comes about.
    They will get a good Scottish welcome.
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    As to responsibility for all this, I could be persuaded to glance in the direction of a certain well-known henchman Boris appointed to his No. 10 office...
    A thought from last summer: Dominic Cummings, from a mining family of Durham, famous for explaining how the Tories couldn’t give a toss for people like himself, is clearly a traitor to his own and his own integrity. Notice how for people like this, Boris Johnson has previous: Leo Boland, another “son of a County Durham pitman” was his chief executive at London City Hall from 2009-11. https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-london-boland

    What happened is that this civil servant, who built his reputation by making other people redundant, made himself redundant on the basis that he was doing Johnson’s job, and so gave himself a nice golden handshake at 58, thereby saving the taxpayer not a penny on his two-year early retirement!
    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/bori...f-6565805.html

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...hief-executive


    In view of recent developments this fetish for Durham miners’ sons takes on some importance. Here is a video presentation which I confess made me cringe: pretty dreadful from someone on that sort of salary.
    https://vimeo.com/15684975


    More interestingly, there is the going ahead with electronic vote-counting despite possible fraud: “Leo Boland takes decision to e-count in London 2012”
    https://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog...in-london-2012


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    From: https://bbc.com/news/election/2019


    1. This is the Conservatives biggest election victory in more than 30 years.
    2. Boris Johnston said that Brexit is now 'irrefutable'.

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    But here’s the big question: Can we trust Boris Johnson to deliver? He’s certainly saying the right things. Maybe we have turned a corner. Maybe the Conservatives finally understand they have to deliver a meaningful Brexit in order to survive as a political force. The last Euro elections put the fear of god into them. That said, the Tories remain the only party who can form a Leave government.

    What's the alternative? As someone who grew up in the seventies an economically innumerate Labour Party is too horrible to contemplate. Their manifesto is a blueprint for financial ruin. The policies of the EU have hit the working classes hard. Working class voices need to be heard, aspirations recognized and cultural values respected.

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    I would rather be dead in a ditch, if I don't Brexit by 31st Oct 2019, said Boris.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9093501.html
    Am I one of many or am I many of one ? interesting .

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    Home Rule for Scotland Inevitable?

    I have been thinking about this.
    The Scots are Thrawn (Pig headed)
    The more Boris and Co say no to anoher independence referendum, the more the Scots will be determined to have home rule.
    So the border situation.
    If home rule comes about it will take some time and sometime to get an application to rejoin the EU approved by them.
    Mean time a trade relationship between the UK and others inculding the EU, will be negotiated.
    The main reason for a border is custom and excise requirements--only necessary if different tariffs apply.
    Other situations can be handled by visa, applied for before foreign nationals want to come here.
    The rules and regulations on food etc always apply--now and in the future.
    So as long as Scotland and England have the same tariff rate I dont see the need for a hard border.
    Happy to be corrected on this.
    Maybe I am naive.
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    Jeff Taylor is still going with his countdowns, this one is another countdown to Brexit Day!: 14 days to Brexit Day


    Macron tries to force Brexit extension!


    ...Mr Macron it is not our nation that is engaged in civil unrest like yours is...


    Jeff gives (in my bias and humble opinion) a great rant at the end!

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    Nigel Farage's last speech in the European Union parliament.

    TL;DR
    It was meant to be a common market, not a common flag (or army, or political empire). The EU have IGNORED EVERY SINGLE OTHER COUNTRIES REFERENDUM, except Britain's.


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    I haven't seen Carl Benjamin (aka Sargon of Akkad) in such a humorous, flippant mood for a while.

    Benjamin had previously expressed Brexit frustration more elegantly than I thought possible.

    In this video Benjamin picks through remainers tweats, calling out misconceptions and badly informed opinions.

    This isn't going to be everyone's cup of tea, it is highly bias and (imho) it may come across a little obnoxious to some people. It's here for people who are enjoying Brexit: https://youtu.be/3L_ECsbmxdc

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    We are now Sovereign again. I've now updated my Countries Flag.

    Am I one of many or am I many of one ? interesting .

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    Quote Posted by YoYoYo (here)
    I haven't seen Carl Benjamin (aka Sargon of Akkad) in such a humorous, flippant mood for a while.

    Benjamin had previously expressed Brexit frustration more elegantly than I thought possible.

    In this video Benjamin picks through remainers tweats, calling out misconceptions and badly informed opinions.

    This isn't going to be everyone's cup of tea, it is highly bias and (imho) it may come across a little obnoxious to some people. It's here for people who are enjoying Brexit:
    I thought that was hilarious. (I confess! ) He really was enjoying himself. His humour was genuine, not faked for the camera.

    It must be pretty tricky in Britain right now. I'm 100% against the EU, and always have been. But it's not any Europeans, or any European countries I didn't like: it was solely the top-heavy bureaucracy of the European Superstate: a kind of sugar-coated, Totalitarian Lite.

    Now, I suspect, it'll all start to crumble as more countries opt to do the same.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    ... Carl Benjamin ...
    Him, Count Dankula, Alistair Williams and We Got A Problem seem to have been closer to the zeitgeist, than for example Victoria Derbyshire, who like the rest of the BBC missed zeitgeist because they were pushing the zeitgeist they really really wanted instead.

    Mehyar Tousi, also capturing the moment but with a more low-brow tone, different to the danky, gamer geek humour (or with Alistair, a full blown pro. comedian). One way or the other, it seems brash/frank, unafraid humour saved the day.

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    The US connection. Guardian comment by fishgirl23:
    Quote Cummings ain't running this show. Matthew Elliot and his wife, Sarah Elliot are in full control of what is happening in the UK. I have been reading about it, but need to understand it fully before posting more. All information is in the public domain. If journalists fail to present this information they will do a disservice to their profession and the UK. Just undertake a search of the husband and wife team. Brexit has been a very long time in the making. Cummings is another puppet.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...downing-street


    Follow the links in the thread :
    https://twitter.com/BettGunther/stat...79980884463619
    Quote GuntherBett #FBPE@BettGunther 20h
    Now look at how Matthew Elliott told his wife to be Sarah, in 2012 that he would take the UK out of the EU
    https://www.desmog.co.uk/2018/11/18/...bbyists-brexit
    Quote At the heart of this network lies a little-known power couple, Matthew and Sarah Elliott. Together, the husband and wife team connect senior members of the Leave campaign and groups pushing a libertarian free-market ideology from offices in Westminster’s Tufton Street to major US libertarian lobbyists and funders.

    Collectively, the network aims to use Brexit as an opportunity to slash regulations in the UK, paving the way for a wide-ranging US-UK free-trade deal that could have disastrous consequences for the environment.


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