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    Quote Posted by bluestflame (here)
    perhaps the real agenda here IS division, seems to have been the effect, add to that a well timed financial crash ...
    Bing-o! Now let's just observe how the dominoes shall fall...
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    I found Rex Woods painting "Britannia" online, and decided to commemorate the occasion with my own artistic modification/update. I dedicate this to all Brits who said NO and voted out! And to all Brits who have the courage to face an uncertain future, and prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery!
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    Quote Posted by Agape (here)
    Of course and they should grant the British public decent time for consideration and present them with the status quod - facts and economic rundown of what the 'leave' and 'remain' options mean and offer .
    We've already had all that, months and months of it on TV, in newspapers, magazines, online, endless ad campaigns and the like. It's done and dusted.

    Quote Posted by Agape (here)
    This was just a referendum ( as Herve said ) , it may mean leaving the EU or not but does not represent the final decision.
    With due respect, the nation has made its decision, and now it should stick. It is the final decision. It does mean leaving the EU. The vote has been cast, and counted. Now it must be honoured. That is democracy. Anything else (a delay, a reversal, a second referendum) would imply the complete opposite of democracy - which sums up the EU, and is why the majority of the population chose to leave in the first place.

    I'll tell you now, any attempt to fudge this and put through another referendum would, I fear, be disastrous. It will generate all sorts of upheaval and unrest - the sort we haven't seen in this country since the poll tax riots which I posted about here.
    The thing about oligarchs is that they think democracy is too important to be entrusted to the masses, which is precisely what distinguishes oligarchy from democracy. Sure, the masses are not up to speed on the intricacies of politics; the choice is then either to deliberately make their eyes glaze over, or to educate them. Even a small child can and must be consulted and listened to on matters pertaining to itself; it can say Yes you can do this to me, or No, please stop. Failure to comply constitutes child abuse. Oligarchy is political abuse and any backing away from the people’s democratic decision would be more oligarchical abuse.

    One way of educating the masses is comedy. The sixties TV soap shown earlier in this thread is one example.
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    ...well thank you old chap and all I can say to your charming comment is rip snorter.
    I say raff, I do so enjoy a good ol' ripping yarn with a jolly finale. None of that foreign muck eh what!

    Good show!

    Bravo sir, bravo. Lmfao.
    This show uses the strains of a working-class marriage to contrast in a humorous way the bigotry of immigrants taking our jobs with an open two-way process: the wife says ‘we can go and take theirs’. When Alf Garnett asks what it would be like if he went off to the continent on his own, her silence suggests that it wouldn’t be so bad at all. In this series the working classes got to take a wry look at various different character types and reactions among people like themselves. But of course the rounded view of immigration + emigration was harder to see on a small income. The British are notorious emigrants, but until recently a little cash was a prerequisite for travelling abroad, which is of course how the empire was built. Nowadays to be sure, travel, like other luxury commodities, has been somewhat democratized, but still, one’s range of action is a symbol of wealth and status. This is why many are still only seeing the immigration half of the equation. More democracy (synonymous with education) is required to put this right. Old Etonians cannot be expected to carry out such an agenda.

    The other standout comedy show in the UK is Yes, Minister, showing how the other half live. It was all a bit of harmless fun, until enough people realized that this was no joke, they were laughing in our faces. The referendum marks the turning-point when passive amusement turned into active rejection. Here are two pieces describing the workings of the EU.




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    can someone please explain about Invoking Article 50? the process of leaving EU and meaning of Referendum is non-binding..i don't quite understand all of this. heard that with the Article 50 treaty saying England required to stay in EU 2 years before British can leave EU..case of England right now Referendum saying Yes to leave EU, can PM go to EU and do what ever he do have England official leave EU within month or weeks?

    i'm uninform about procedure..

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    Blair is definitely a mouth piece for TPTB , he has been low key due
    to the Iraq War report that is due out soon after years of delay....

    This is something that has happened before. Try again people ,we
    don't like the result of your first go !

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    Former Blair Advisor Pushes ‘Second Referendum’ to Sabotage Brexit Vote

    By David on 26 June 2016 GMT



    ‘Tony Blair’s former chief of staff told the BBC tonight that there should be
    another referendum before Britain is allowed to leave the EU, an immediate
    sign that the political class will try to sabotage the Brexit vote.

    Appearing on BBC Newsnight, Jonathan Powell, who currently serves as the
    UK’s special envoy to Libya, argued that Brits should be made to vote on
    leaving the EU again despite the ‘Vote Leave’ campaign already winning
    yesterday’s referendum.’

    Read more: Former Blair Advisor Pushes ‘Second Referendum’ to Sabotage Brexit Vote

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/former-b...exit-vote.html

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    George Soros: 'Brexit Makes EU Disintegration Irreversible'

    by Tyler Durden

    Jun 25, 2016 4:28 PM




    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-0...n-irreversible
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    Wow, some people voted Leave and their voice was heard: that was not supposed to happen!
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7102516.html

    Well of course, it is supposed to happen, all the time, and the strange thing is how novel an idea this has become. You are not supposed to panic and change your mind when for once your vote actually counts. People are going to have to get used to the idea, which brings responsibility: you need to say what you mean and mean what you say. No more playing charades. Big Brother is listening: tell him exactly what he needs to hear.

    But that is for future reference. Meanwhile, there is no going back. Sometimes what comes out your mouth gives a better idea of what you are really thinking than a misplaced sense of propriety allows you to express. It is known as a Freudian slip. Some folks have discovered the Freudian voting slip. Interesting how the pre-vote worry was whether to use a pen or a pencil to make sure one’s vote was not changed. Now the concern is that the vote wasn’t rigged.
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    Brexit: 'Half' of Labour top team set to resign
    27 minutes ago

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36632956


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    RT NEWS....

    Labour Party in disarray after Corbyn’s dismissal of Benn leads to mutiny

    Published time: 26 Jun, 2016 07:59
    Edited time: 26 Jun, 2016 09:44

    https://www.rt.com/uk/348427-corbyn-...ampaign=chrome

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    With the 'Blairite' Labour rebel MP's and others trying to oust leader
    Jeremy Corbyn this is very revealing as Harriet has been tipped
    as a possible leader and is high up in Labour ranks.....


    This is very funny when you consider who Harriet Harmen is....LOL




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    Hilary Benn 'Car-Crash' Brexit Interview. Can't Win A Single Fu**ing Argument. #Brexit Andrew Neil.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufvSSTdg2tE

    Published on 6 Jun 2016
    Hilary Benn MP has an interview to forget when Andrew Neil grilles him on the key
    issues leading up to Britain's 2016 EU Membership Referendum.
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    Quote can someone please explain about Invoking Article 50?

    This clip is from the BREXIT movie and explains the outline....




    BREXIT THE MOVIE FULL FILM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTMxfAkxfQ0

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    Make no mistake Boris is very much part of the elites and
    would have the blessing of TPTB if he does become PM.



    Watch for the buying time scam - it's already started

    By David on 25 June 2016 GMT





    Osborne - Borris - Cameron ......



    media and political mind control has been going on for a long time....

    Dear Somerset Man,

    I must admit I wasn't taken by your enthusiasm for Brexit, but I do like your sense of humour. Hopefully, in your disillusionment with Brexit, you might become one of the Bregreters...

    BTW, I lived in Bristol for 3 years and I like Somerset Cider!

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    Quote Dear Somerset Man,

    I must admit I wasn't taken by your enthusiasm for Brexit, but I do like your sense of humour. Hopefully, in your disillusionment with Brexit, you might become one of the Bregreters...

    BTW, I lived in Bristol for 3 years and I like Somerset Cider!
    I am not against a free market and no tariff trading zones its what it
    is leading towards.......As you know Bridgwater folk traditionally have
    been a rebellious lot and helped lead the way to the abolishment of
    slavery in the UK and other things when we put our mind to it...LOL

    I am a trades unionist and we went on strike in 2015 in support of a
    colleague, breaking the law in doing so. Sometimes a man or a woman
    has to what a man or a woman has to do ...LOL



    Wildcat strikes win a first class victory for disabled post worker Andrew Mootoo
    by Nick Clark


    https://socialistworker.co.uk/art/42...+Andrew+Mootoo



    http://www.bridgwatermercury.co.uk/n..._after_strike/

    Some Bridgwater 'posties' a motley lovable bunch of........LOL

    We all lost our pay for standing up for our principles !!! and we are part of
    the Bristol area as opposed to the Taunton area as they are not militant
    in theses matters. I know the trades union recommended to stay in the
    EU but they do not know what we know.


    The 'postie' in the Chelsea bobble hat in the front is ecnal 61 a Avalon member
    and workmate , I am there somewhere , I think I am sitting on the wall at
    the back chatting...LOL



    http://www.bridgwatermercury.co.uk/n...worker_strike/

    Bicentenary of the 1807 Abolition of the Slave Trade Act
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/somerset/conten..._feature.shtml

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridgwater
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    John Pilger article from New Matilda; an Australian Independent Media platform

    “The Leave vote was people power in action, which is why the enemies of democracy hate it so much. John Pilger explains.

    The majority vote by Britons to leave the European Union was an act of raw democracy. Millions of ordinary people refused to be bullied, intimidated and dismissed with open contempt by their presumed betters in the major parties, the leaders of the business and banking oligarchy and the media”

    https://newmatilda.com/2016/06/26/a-...-no-to-europe/

    The comments section highlights the conflicted attitudes.

    For me (not British and with little background knowledge) the thought of trusting huge centralised power structures with the future is not sensible. Having said that, if I was in the thick of it I may have voted “remain” because of the threatened social repercussions…. as I believe so strongly in social justice.

    I wonder if democracy has failed if the issues that people are voting on are obfuscated. Maybe this was deliberate because even though the vote was for Brexit, it sure seems like a lot of people are deeply upset. There is great unrest from the ‘remain’ side and they don’t seem to be accepting the decision…which isn’t binding. If another referendum was held the result could be different and the people might be chastened.

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    I found an interesting article at The Telegraph - on mobile posted at Twitter (#Leave)

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...n-like-greece/

    It's not asking to log in on mobile ..

    Regarding 'there is time for article 50' - everything has to be negotiated and this needs time. Waiting is wasting time. If its not 'a deal' - its a loss for the UK.
    The EU doesn't care - being called 'Hitler' buried the willingness to go for win-win solutions.
    Since Leave-movement seemed not to care about ripples within the EU - which can affect people THERE too - its another point for a not strong negotiation position.

    The EU, companies EU and international prepared for Leave - moving on as smooth as possible.
    Moving companies (and employees) means mainly EU-workers - since there are laws about employment of non-EU-workers (which also applies for athletes, such as soccer player at European Clubs).
    If it were 'that easy' Croatians, Ukrainians could already work for instance in Switzerland, Germany,.. Yet they can't/couldn't.
    Croatia joined the EU as a member - which means people officially can work in the EU, live there easily.
    Which now has to be negotiated for UK people. With the EU and additionally with Switzerland.
    Switzerland is already preparing for talks, asking to be included in the EU talks (as in the same time and not separately.) Since Switzerland has deals with the EU it had to wait - they can't just jump in and make deals first with the UK.
    Such deals are about - whats happening with people working and living in Switzerland for instance - since their status has changed and also Switzerland's law applies.
    Which also should rather be in the UK's interested to start to talk about - and not dragging on with 'we have time'.

    UK doesn't have time - and leaving everyone else in waiting position doesn't give 'extra points' either.

    However promoting 'we have time' just works fine so far - its celebration time/worry time . Taking matters into own hand (shouting at people to leave).
    While companies already have plans for the future. To adjust - while moving on.. Which they didn't just came up with the last few days.
    So everyone else seemed to be prepared - and the UK is in celebration mood and/or not.

    I am not sure what the 'freedom' means actually.. To have lost literal free movement, trading,...
    If so - does 'we have time' also literally mean -'we have none' (?)

    Just wondering....

    Best wishes.

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    Great photos , thanks Cider

    The problem is that this is not your small 'local decision' and 'insider point of view' ( reversing the NWO here ) ,
    if you would ask all around the EU, go to countryside and ask people what they think of the EU and whether they 'want it' , you'd hear the expletives in all the European languages ( but due to the 'Union' young people do speak English nowadays , not so true about your 'older generation' ).
    It's 'quid pro quod' in this case , in my opinion. Your decisioning is not about any 'li'l yourself' , it would reshuffle the bigger European and in turn , the worlds history and yours as well .

    The EU was kind-of forced upon all of us as the more sentient option so that small countries could ever withstand the pressure from more aggressive economical market.
    It sucked lots of sentient economy into itself and made everyone crazy about exporting products from one country to another and importing their products and so forth.

    It shows again how large 'unions' are difficult to organise .

    The problem really is not 'you' and never been 'just you' , the problem is being part of the larger whole, that is unavoidable since we're on this planet together with 7 billion diverse but breathing, feeling , thinking humans .
    In past you could be 'the only ones' for a while and theoretically, you still own 1/6th of the land and had some 'evolutionary advantage' but nowadays ,
    it's about being part of the global dialogue .

    If we can't have one .. which is really very weak point with MOST of our older generations mindset who simply 'take a decision' and 'like it or leave it'

    because for many thousands of years it was 'thus' ,

    we are descending to age back then .

    I say all the systems are corrupted because peoples mentality is corrupted . I don't take care of those systems but I care about people and see how they're.

    Someone in authority are never capable of dialogue . They want to 'lead', decide , divide and conquer and they do and they're taking victims to their responsibility or loss of and walk out pretending utter innocence .

    The EU again, is not about 'EU' , if there's only a Europe on the planet you don't need EU.

    It's about economic giants like China, the US and the BRICS I suppose because if there's no EU they'll keep buying our economy smart as they can and they already do .

    So called 'free market' is currently a utopia , it's the weakest part of the economic chain nowadays . The largest part of 'capital' is owned by banks and corporations and goes back to hands of few people in the background .



    The problem of the world as I see it is problem of narrow minded human mentalities who are unable to engage in meaningful dialogue with each other .
    It's either 'i'm right' or 'you're right' but nothing in between and taking 'strong stand' and shooting each other for an opinion.

    H.H. Dalailama once said the '21st century should be a century of dialogue' . But I see it's nowhere in that direction quite yet .
    The British ( but many other worlds mentalities ) are like 'you have no compares' . No matter what , you're the best .
    It results in making many good friends till you can be the good host but having no partners in the endgame because they 'don't compare'.

    My uncle says that it's only after their generation and my generation die out the world will change because the mindsets are too stubborn . Some peoples are .
    I can't talk to him really he's grim

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    My worry about this vote for a Brexit is that it is cast for all the wrong reasons.

    Racism, nationalism, xenophobia, frustration in general, these are all expressions of the divisive energies that give people like Boris Johnson, Trump, Geert Wilders (Netherlands), Le Penn (France) and others a platform.
    They are of a masculine nature in a childlike egotistic struggle to be free but without the responsibility to carry the weight of it.

    Much will be destroyed, also the good things that came from centuries of hard work and effort.
    There is no plan for a constructive change, just an adolescent .. "NO".

    The coming economic storm might prove to be too big for isolated countries to survive.
    I hope that the UK will find ways to overcome it without falling into total collapse.
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    The dirty fight is ON.

    My daughter in Toulouse just told me that they deactivated her health insurance card almost immediately after the result.
    .................................................. my first language is TYPO..............................................

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    Quote Posted by Eram (here)
    My worry about this vote for a Brexit is that it is cast for all the wrong reasons.

    Racism, nationalism, xenophobia, frustration in general, these are all expressions of the divisive energies that give people like Boris Johnson, Trump, Geert Wilders (Netherlands), Le Penn (France) and others a platform.
    They are of a masculine nature in a childlike egotistic struggle to be free but without the responsibility to carry the weight of it.

    Much will be destroyed, also the good things that came from centuries of hard work and effort.
    There is no plan for a constructive change, just an adolescent .. "NO".

    The coming economic storm might prove to be too big for isolated countries to survive.
    I hope that the UK will find ways to overcome it without falling into total collapse.
    My dear Eram,

    I could not agree with you more. We will not defeat the so-called 'NWO' or the 'Powers that be' with immature expressions of rebellion.

    Revolt against oppression may be necessary, and it sometimes produces beneficial results. However, Britain was never an oppressed country under the yoke of an EU dictatorship. Therefore the UK could have continued to work within the EU to change it for the better, while still retaining the benefits of membership. That opportunity will now be lost.

    As I survey the mounting chaos in the British political establishment, I wish some of us (me included) had somehow been able to send out a more positive message based on direct experience of the benefits of having a European Community of nations.

    To support this, I will mention my own positive experience of working in EU funded projects. Over the years, I have been involved in several research programs, such as those under the BRITE and LINK schemes, which were designed to foster pan-European cooperation. A prerequisite for these projects was the participation of smaller, less well-developed members of the EU, much to the benefit of their growing economies. I thought this was a wonderful way of working together and transferring knowledge across borders. Have a look at this, for example:

    http://ec.europa.eu/research/index.cfm

    Young British innovators who could help to create Britain's future prosperity will now be denied the opportunities that I have had in the last 25 years.

    Best regards,

    John
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    Brexit- What is the Hidden Globalist Game?

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    Brexit- Another Zionist Dialectic
    (henrymakow.com)
    June 26, 2016

    Boris Johnson's stepmother Jenny, the second wife of his father Stanley, is the stepdaughter of Edward Sieff, the former chairman of Marks & Spencer


    The prompt acceptance of the narrow referendum win should make you suspicious.
    Brexit is supposed to be a blow to the masonic Jew World Order. But all the usual suspects, including the mass media, supported it. What trick do the globalists have up their sleeve?

    Quote "Brexit is pure political theatre for the gullible masses and nothing more...Throughout the campaign, Brexiters lamented how the establishment was ranged against them, but in truth the reverse was the reality."
    There is great rejoicing in much of the so called alternative media over the "Brexit" result in yesterday's British referendum on membership of the European Union. If more proof were needed that the alternative media is often misinformed and credulous, this is it.

    Alternative types, from David Duke to David Icke, have of course been insisting for months that the Brexit movement represents a mighty blow against Zio-globalism. There may be some excuse for Duke to believe this guff: he is, after all, an American and presumably relies on British "white nationalists" for information about such matters. There is little or no excuse for British white nationalists themselves, or for British critics of Zionism like Icke, to be so deceived.


    (Borris and his buddy in Masonic handshake)


    Unless they have been paying very scant attention indeed, they should have noticed that the Brexit movement is overwhelmingly dominated not just by common or garden Zionists, but by hard-core Zionist ultras of a particularly toxic variety. For example, Boris Johnson, the part-Jewish de facto frontman for Brexit, describes himself as "a passionate Zionist" and supports with an equal passion both the corrupt City of London and mass migration to Europe.

    But compared to Michael Gove, the other leading Tory Brexit spokesman and senior British cabinet member, Boris is a veritable peacenik. Gove has long been the type of Zionist shill about whom it is fair to say he never saw a Zio-war he didn't like. A former journalist with the Zionist London Times newspaper, he once penned the following excruciating line about war criminal Blair: "I can't help myself! I love Tony!".



    It's worth pointing out, by the way, that Johnson, and more especially Gove, are close personal friends of British Prime Minister David Cameron, which makes it, therefore, more than plausible to suggest that their dispute over Brexit is pure political theatre for the gullible masses and nothing more.

    Chris Grayling, another senior Tory Brexiter, is a member of British Israel Communications and Research Centre (BICOM), a Zionist lobby group. When he was secretary of state for Justice and Lord Chancellor, Grayling declared war on "extremists", the working definition of which, he made clear, amounted to anyone who criticised Israel or the War on Terror.

    Theresa Villiers, the British Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, and Brexiter, is an "officer" of the Conservative Friends of Israel (CFI) and ardent Zionist.

    Iain Duncan Smith, a long standing supporter of Brexit, who resigned recently form his senior ministry in the Cameron government, also belongs to the CFI, as indeed do nearly all the leading Tory Brexiters.



    Then there's Liam Fox, left, another Neocon ultra, who was forced to resign from his job as Secretary of State for Defence, after it was revealed that billionaire Israeli arms dealer, Poju Zabludowicz, was funding his jet setting playboy lifestyle, and that of his erstwhile "adviser" Adam Werrity.

    It isn't just on the Tory side where Brexit goes with passionate Zionism. One of the small handful of Labour Party Brexit supporters was Gisela Stuart, a German born Zionist, and a member of the Neocon "Henry Jackson Society". Stuart received lavish media coverage throughout the campaign - courtesy of her Zionist friends at the BBC. Other Labour Brexit supporters like Kate Hoey and Frank Field, also strongly support Israel.

    THE ZIONIST-CONTROLLED MEDIA


    Then there's the media: Murdoch's soft-porn rags have fervently advocated for Brexit since well before the vote was called. Ditto the soft core porn Daily Mail, and the Daily Express, owned by Zionist hard-porn baron, Richard Desmond. The Telegraph is if anything even more Neocon than the Murdoch press, and likewise took a strong pro-Brexit stance. Even those media one might normally expect to be pro-EU adopted a distinctly ambivalent approach to the issue.

    For example, the Guardian and the Independent published many articles in support of leaving the EU in the run up to voting day. By the same token, in one of the key televised debates on the Brexit issue, the BBC slanted the panel three to two in favour of Brexit. One of the two "spokespersons" they invited to appear that night to argue in favour of staying in the EU was Eddie Izzard, a buffoonish and widely despised transvestite "comedian" who appeared on the panel with bright red lip stick, mascara, nail varnish and clad in a woman's jacket and blouse, and a pink beret. Not exactly an advocate designed to appeal to the undecided voters of middle England - or middle anywhere else - one would have thought.


    (Julie Burchill of The Guardian, draped in Israeli flag, part of the pro-Brexit Pressitute corps.)

    When it comes to individual journalists, the roll call of pro-Brexiters in general corresponded to the leading names in "Zio-presstitution": Julie Burchill, Douglas Murray, Charles Moore, Julia Hartley Brewer, Matthew Parris, Toby Young, Janet Daley, and even Peter Hitchens - who in spite of his stated reservations about western invasions around the world, can always be relied upon to stoutly defend the Israeli state.

    Throughout the campaign, Brexiters lamented how the establishment was ranged against them, but in truth the reverse was the reality. Indeed ironically enough the corporate media eagerly spun the Leave campaign meme of the referendum as a David and Goliath contest between the plucky Brexit underdog and the nasty pro-EU ruling elite. Moreover, unlike the case of the Scottish independence referendum two years ago, there were very few corporate celebs rushing to support the pro-EU side.

    In the Scottish referendum, almost anyone who was anyone in showbiz - Mick Jagger, Paul McCartney, Kate Moss, et al - put their name to a letter calling on Scotland to stay in the United Kingdom. No such closing of celeb ranks took place against Brexit - which in itself goes a long way to refuting the notion that Brexit was an anti-establishment cause.

    THE ZIO GAME?
    So if the Zio-globalists favoured Brexit what was their game? Not for the first time, the Russians seemed to have got closer to the reality than many of the western alternative media did.



    Last week Putin suggested that Cameron had called the referendum in order to "blackmail" the rest of Europe. The evidence for this theory is compelling. It should be remembered that for all their self-serving chauvinistic rhetoric, the British Neocons don't dislike the EU on account of its control by corrupt transnationals and even more corrupt bankers: au contraire they want it to be even MORE controlled by these forces than it already is.

    The referendum was clearly a move to force the EU to undertake "root and branch reform", i.e., to surrender completely to Anglo-American Zionist warmongers and corporate privateers. In all the phoney euphoria over the Brexit result it's easily forgotten that in so far as there has been opposition to Zionist war-mongering, surveillance and privatization within the EU, it has certainly not come from Britain.

    Furthermore the desire of British Neocons to force the EU's hand is not really a secret: in the very early days of the referendum campaign, Boris Johnson and another leading Brexiter, former Tory leader, Michael Howard, both stated that a Brexit vote was a way of forcing Europe to make better terms with Britain.

    For all its bellyaching, the British Zio-masonic state already gets much better terms from the EU than most European nations - not surprising since the EU is not, as British chauvinists of Hitchens' type ludicrously claim, a German imperialist project, but rather a vehicle for Anglo-American Zionist dominion. For instance Angela Merkel agreed to take in a million refugees to Germany, while Britain has agreed to take in a paltry 20,000 over five years. By the same token the French are compelled by their Anglo-masters to oversee huge refugee camps on their northern coast - in order to prevent migrants making it to Britain.

    None of the above is to in any way argue that opposition to the EU is misguided, but simply to illustrate that in this particular referendum there were no good guys. A triumph against globalism Brexit most certainly was not.

    - See more at: http://henrymakow.com/2016/06/brexit....3lpcKxpu.dpuf
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    It looks like there is going to be a 2nd referendum:

    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215
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    Petition for UK Brexit revote hits three million signatures in just two days

    By David on 26 June 2016 GMT



    ‘While Britain comes to terms with its dramatic EU exit, a sizable number are trying to
    prevent just that. A petition to hold a second EU referendum has captured the imagination
    of the public and three million people have already signed it.

    The speed in which the British public has flocked to sign the parliament petition has been
    staggering. Created in the immediate aftermath of Britain’s decision to vote to leave the
    EU on Friday morning, in the space of around 48 hours, it has managed to acquire over
    three million votes.

    By gaining over 100,000 signatures, Parliament will now have to debate whether to hold
    a second referendum.’

    Read more: Petition for UK Brexit revote hits three million signatures in just two days

    https://www.rt.com/uk/348437-brexit-...ampaign=chrome

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    Who Is William Oliver Healey?

    #BREXIT PETITION: Who Is William Oliver Healey?

    June 25, 2016 By 21wire 18 Comments

    21st Century Wire says…

    We heard about the big petition, but who is the author?

    This is interesting…

    Mike Robinson
    UK Column

    The #EUReferendumPsyop continues in the form of a petition calling for a second referendum.
    So far, 2.1 million people have signed it.


    ‘An online search for “William Oliver Healey” reveals a host of results, almost all of which
    point to the petition itself or news articles and blog posts about the petition, and almost
    none of which lead to a real human being called “William Oliver Healey”.

    No-one seems to be asking the simple question, who is “William Oliver Healey”?

    … EDITORS NOTE: Upon closer examination after downloading the data from this petition,
    it appears that a great number of the signatures are from an array of foreign countries
    ranging from Cuba, to Mauritania, to Algeria, Argentina, Burundi, Iran and even Moldova,
    along with dozens of others. It’s possible that an overwhelming majority of the petition’s
    ‘signatures’ are from overseas. Very odd, and in such a short space of time. Could this be
    the work of automated software, also known as ‘internet ‘bots’?’

    Read more …


    http://21stcenturywire.com/2016/06/2...oliver-healey/

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    Sturgeon demands immediate discussions with the EU to keep Scotland 'In' but told 'No, that's not how it works'

    By David on 26 June 2016 GMT Political Manipulation



    Nicola Sturgeon was dealt a savage blow to her hopes of keeping Scotland in the EU as Brussels
    officials stated that if Britain exits then Scotland goes with it too.

    They also stated that if Scotland was to win a second referendum on becoming independent of the
    UK then they would have to reapply for EU membership’

    Read more: Sturgeon demands immediate discussions with the EU to keep Scotland ‘In’ but told
    ‘No, that’s not how it works’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...not-works.html

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    Hollande rejects Le Pen’s calls for Frexit referendum


    Published time: 26 Jun, 2016 04:47

    President Francois Hollande has firmly rejected calls for a referendum on leaving
    the EU, said French right-wing leader Marine Le Pen. Disappointed with the talks
    and disregard for public opinion, she was left with the “feeling of coming for
    nothing.”

    https://www.rt.com/news/348422-holla...ampaign=chrome

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    Published on 16 Jun 2016

    Paolo Barnard, the most censored italian economic journalist, reveals the truth
    about BREXIT and the European Union.

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    China warns Brexit will 'cast shadow' over global economy

    6 hours ago

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36632934

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    Back to the usual political 'waffle' , B S , lies and Westminster talk......

    The Andrew Marr Show

    26/06/2016

    Interviews with key newsmakers and cultural figures, and a look at what is
    happening in the world this week.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...-show-26062016
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    Default Re: The UK Brexit vote to leave the EU

    I have just come across this if it hasn't been posted before.

    The European Union, a Fascist Superstate -- Rodney Atkinson
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-QtgtXJxYQ

    Some very "Interesting" history...

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