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    It's been a constant on my mind for a while now. Questioning not just myself, but the world of people all around me...why can't we all live as one?



    Mass immigration has brought it to a head I feel. So many people, both whom I know and strangers alike I read their words and hear them talking...why are we so hateful, scared, unsure, disinterested in others just because we was born into different countries, continents, religions, upbringings?

    The scale of immigration, refugees and migrants is worrying me, I won't lie.

    Not because I dislike, fear or think bad of anyone...but because I feel its being orchestrated to hurt both sides, to cause mass unrest, rejection and animosity.

    Because a vast majority, whether they be the displaced immigrants (by choice or by necessity) or the aboriginals of those lands...it is the reluctance and abhoration of both sides to integrate and get along peacefully, respect each others morals and cultures that is the issue.

    Its the only thing standing in our ways. If we all get along and love and respect one another as a fellow human rather than judging what we wear, the colour of our skin, which god we do or not believe in...then we're united...and cannot be divided, conquered or ruled.

    How funny to think that the fanatics who say they would die for their gods, for their families and their ancestors...how ironic that should they be able to go back into their ancestry would find out the very people they hate and wish to see suffer are actually THEIR ancestors.

    How funny to think that the xenophobic in us and around us, should we have the same opportunity, may find the very people we dislike, was it not for them in our heritage...we wouldn't be here today...in our current body, our current life.

    I feel we're at a tipping point in history, where we either all make amends and come together, or it all goes down the pan.

    These short video really made me think...I wish this test was free and available to all..if so, what a different world we would be living in within just a few short years...












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    Time being we live in a word of duality a world of differences--uniqueness, variety.
    However we can respect and learn from these seeming differences.
    In reality we are the One formless Self.
    Formless can not have experiences thus the One manifest as the many.

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    You cannot have one without the other and the other is stopping the one . The one is the people , and the other is the elites . They have created division , a divided people is easy to control . They control through so many aspects of our lives . The strawman , education , money , religion , cultures and Wars . All control mechanisms , past masters have tried to unite us .
    Am I one of many or am I many of one ? interesting .

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    We cannot live as one because of the conflict of laws.

    The conflict between laws has plagued mankind for millennia. Those who follow the law of the jungle (predators) versus those who follow the law of love (harmless producers).

    The strong prey on the weak until the weak cooperate and mutually defend themselves and their property.

    Then the predators seek to infiltrate the cooperative and turn it to their own use.
    That's where we are now - government run by predators who seek to disarm their prey. And the (m)asses are reduced to a free range game farm.
    The secret of life is that there is no secret of life.

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    We have to work so much our matrix programing in order to over come it and free ourselfs, from being or, should i say, from feeling divided , becouse we are allways conected. And there is no need to do it everybody, with a minority, which allready is, is enough. Things are allready changing and , please, dont get lost with all the "noise" around. You are so important. Focus. See you posted at 11:33. You are very well guided and kind.
    Thanks for sharing and much love
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    Have appreciated the comments. I always go back to this; everything depends upon what brainwashing a child is subjected to in the learning years. Until something breaks through to make the person start to question, all remains the same.

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    I always love these kinds of threads, because they give everyone this built-in opportunity to see things from a higher perspective, more en-light-ened, which is the only way to grow...up and up...
    just look at plants, how they seek the light.

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    I think we all do live as one, the gamut of experiences are what we have come here for. Life has certainly been orchestrated for both the farmers and the farmed. Lessons for all to be learned... What is the lesson at every given situation and what can we do, not necessarily physically at times...Each one of us has ours to grow and stretch into the light to sustain and feed others and theirs. Keep shining dear loveys

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    Quote If I am I because I am I, and you are you because you are you, then I am I and you are you. But if I am I because you are you and you are you because I am I, then I am not I and you are not you!

    -- Kotzker Rebbe (1787–1859)
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    We can't live as one, because our values conflict. I have no desire (or ability) to have an egalitarian relationship with a man from a culture that devalues women.

    I also have a tough time seeing any benefit in upholding cultures that legally marry off their girl children, ( to their cousins, often times, at the age of ten,) heap abuse on dogs, because they are 'unclean,' etc...

    I'm sorry. No can do!

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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Time being we live in a word of duality a world of differences--uniqueness, variety.
    However we can respect and learn from these seeming differences.
    In reality we are the One formless Self.
    Formless can not have experiences thus the One manifest as the many.

    Chris
    Chris, How about those, in Africa, who believe that albinos are demonic, so harass and murder them? Should we respect them too? Quite frankly, a good half of the world lives in complete 'belief squalor,' that revolves around preying on the innocent.

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    Quote Posted by Sérénité (here)
    It's been a constant on my mind for a while now. Questioning not just myself, but the world of people all around me...why can't we all live as one?



    Mass immigration has brought it to a head I feel. So many people, both whom I know and strangers alike I read their words and hear them talking...why are we so hateful, scared, unsure, disinterested in others just because we was born into different countries, continents, religions, upbringings?

    The scale of immigration, refugees and migrants is worrying me, I won't lie.

    Not because I dislike, fear or think bad of anyone...but because I feel its being orchestrated to hurt both sides, to cause mass unrest, rejection and animosity.

    Because a vast majority, whether they be the displaced immigrants (by choice or by necessity) or the aboriginals of those lands...it is the reluctance and abhoration of both sides to integrate and get along peacefully, respect each others morals and cultures that is the issue.

    Its the only thing standing in our ways. If we all get along and love and respect one another as a fellow human rather than judging what we wear, the colour of our skin, which god we do or not believe in...then we're united...and cannot be divided, conquered or ruled.

    How funny to think that the fanatics who say they would die for their gods, for their families and their ancestors...how ironic that should they be able to go back into their ancestry would find out the very people they hate and wish to see suffer are actually THEIR ancestors.

    How funny to think that the xenophobic in us and around us, should we have the same opportunity, may find the very people we dislike, was it not for them in our heritage...we wouldn't be here today...in our current body, our current life.

    I feel we're at a tipping point in history, where we either all make amends and come together, or it all goes down the pan.

    These short video really made me think...I wish this test was free and available to all..if so, what a different world we would be living in within just a few short years...











    Serenite, You are engaging a paradox here. Should we be tolerant of the intolerant? Should we blind ourselves to that intolerance and vote them into office, for example? Do you, as a woman, want them to adopt your way of life or vice versa?

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    Quote Posted by AutumnW (here)
    We can't live as one, because our values conflict. I have no desire (or ability) to have an egalitarian relationship with a man from a culture that devalues women.

    I also have a tough time seeing any benefit in upholding cultures that legally marry off their girl children, ( to their cousins, often times, at the age of ten,) heap abuse on dogs, because they are 'unclean,' etc...

    I'm sorry. No can do!


    Reminds me of this quote: "honor thy mother and father....but only if theyre honorable"

    Which surely could be extended to "honor thy fellow human being...but only if theyre honorable"

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    Quote Posted by AutumnW (here)
    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Time being we live in a word of duality a world of differences--uniqueness, variety.
    However we can respect and learn from these seeming differences.
    In reality we are the One formless Self.
    Formless can not have experiences thus the One manifest as the many.

    Chris
    Chris, How about those, in Africa, who believe that albinos are demonic, so harass and murder them? Should we respect them too? Quite frankly, a good half of the world lives in complete 'belief squalor,' that revolves around preying on the innocent.
    It takes time to understand non-duality in its entirety and thats the context im coming from and im still learning but respecting the differences is not about condoning violence.
    People can be educated out of their ignorance and fear. True we are living in very violent times, people suffer great hardship and cruelty.
    However out of that comes compassion and real help from those are able to.
    When the understanding is there that the same creator lives in the other how can you harm anyone--they are the same as you.--thats the essence of non-duality and the teachings of Jesus--Love thy neighbor as yourself.

    Easier said than done of course.

    Chris
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    Thank you Chris, good answer. I can't argue with that and think it is wise to withhold judgement, when dealing one on one with somebody from any background, as I hope they would with me.

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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Quote Posted by AutumnW (here)
    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Time being we live in a word of duality a world of differences--uniqueness, variety.
    However we can respect and learn from these seeming differences.
    In reality we are the One formless Self.
    Formless can not have experiences thus the One manifest as the many.

    Chris
    Chris, How about those, in Africa, who believe that albinos are demonic, so harass and murder them? Should we respect them too? Quite frankly, a good half of the world lives in complete 'belief squalor,' that revolves around preying on the innocent.
    It takes time to understand non-duality in its entirety and thats the context im coming from and im still learning but respecting the differences is not about condoning violence.
    People can be educated out of their ignorance and fear. True we are living in very violent times, people suffer great hardship and cruelty.
    However out of that comes compassion and real help from those are able to.
    When the understanding is there that the same creator lives in the other how can you harm anyone--they are the same as you.--thats the essence of non-duality and the teachings of Jesus--Love thy neighbor as yourself.

    Easier said than done of course.

    Chris
    Well Said Chris.

    The mechanism of it is easier to see when compared to children.
    As a parent, we witness them do things that are cruel , yet we still love and respect them.
    We do not condone it, but recognize that they are ignorant and have to learn.
    hylozoic tenet: “Consciousness sleeps in the stone, dreams in the plant, awakens in the animal, and becomes self-conscious in man.”

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    Every spirit form comes from Creation, a tiny piece of that spark that created universes... We are one creation expressing ourselves as the universe always looks for variance... The inner realm of the human being (heaven) is still connected to Creation... Only our wrong thinking has some feeling alone, separate from everyone else, that's lifes deception for us through meditation and prayer to learn to conquer and overcome...
    Raiding the Matrix One Mind at a Time ...

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    Removed my post.
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    One evening when I was walking around the temple in Namgyal monastery , like many other evenings , many people walking in rounds,
    monks and lay visitors of each evening , young and old, praying , walking quietly in sober contemplation about the day , self , the world , the events ..

    sharing quiet greetings and prayers offered for all ...

    especially the many, countless victims of the worlds wars and disasters

    many evenings that went just quiet . Not many people around .

    I watched my teachers back and the senior nun doing prostrations , her ankles bound to hold in position , hands dressed in wooden planks to slide smoothly on the marble floor

    a girl from New York , sweating under similar ordeal on the other side of the temple yard .

    I want to understand .. about everyone and everything.


    And then I see myself in all these people and it being one long path ..

    man like baby keeps crawling on the ground , rising to his heights and falling down to the feet of majestic wisdom of Life

    rising and falling, being born anew in the beauty of child and ageing through the nerves of experience

    Somehow, I saw the Time as it revolves in All of Us through eternal cycle .

    I saw that many times, many Ways.


    It's an amazing experience








    This puzzle comes from 1977 when I was about 4 years old . Somehow I protected it from being taken from me ...

    many of my generation of kids say that they could /we could feel the internet coming , we also probably just felt naturally, similarly about the world and greater interconnectedness of things .

    It needs to come yet ... Bigger Ways...


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    to live as 'one' in a duality realm such as ours is an impossibility, and to even introduce it into our frame of reference is setting us up to feel defeated when unattainable, and who introduced it, but religious leaders, so that having failed, we would shuffle on over to hand our power away. I apologize if this pov hits a tender spot but it is unfortunately the reality as I see it.

    "we are not hateful", dear OP, a branch of those we live with are hateful, and "we" best make this knowledge what we breathe day in and day out, or "we" will be plundered.
    “a complete understanding of reality lies beyond the capabilities of rational thought."
    ― Gary Zukav

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