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    Kundalini rising is a precursor to this sort of abuse.

    My own was an amazing experience that woke me from my sleep and continued for at least half an hour. At first it was ecstatic, as the energy kept surging upward. I was laughing and moaning in joy. But it continued for too long. I became worried. It left me exhausted. Not a week later my life would be completely turned upside down and I have not yet fully recovered. That was 2003.
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    What happened?

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    I made a change that was overdue, that I knew needed to happen but I was too complacent. I was too comfortable. I was content.

    I had no real intention to move on, but I did it anyway. I left with almost nothing. I gave up a lot, including a house and lots of man toys. It was time, though. The fork in the road had appeared. The details aren't important anymore. I am still with the same woman now for fifteen years. The miracles were mostly for her - and she has made remarkable progress.

    I continue. I remain. But even I have gone through a transformation, thanks in part to Camelot and Avalon, and to my own insatiable yearning to uncover the truth. The man I would have been I cannot say but the man I am is disabused of many fallacies that still prevail in the world at large.

    So what happened? The man I intended to be in my youth, is not the man it was intended I be, would be my guess. The trigger was the Kundalini rising, the uncoiling of the snake, and the intensive yoga training I had undertaken. It messed with something inside me. Seems that to veer too far away from the core of yourself requires sometimes harsh course corrections. I can say tentatively now, that I am almost happy for once. It is a novel experience and I try to stay present for every moment it lasts - and hopefully beyond.

    Just wish I wasn't so not young anymore...and I hope I do not forget the debt I owe for this fine adventure.
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    Quote Posted by rgray222 (here)
    Not sure if anyone has posted this but Australian TV did a fascinating story with Mary Rodwell and her son. My Mum Talks To Aliens, she talks to a man that claims to have had sex with two extraterrestrial women. If memory serves me right they actually did some DNA testing and lie detector on this guy and everything checked out. It really is a great watch.

    if this video really should be true. Then the two alien ladies would have been very human-like. In any case, on the physical level, the sexual. That could also mean that extraterrestrial beings could be similar to humans. Still, I wonder why they had sex with the man? Because if they really had sex, then they probably wanted a fertilization. Or what else could have been the reason?
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    How about this (in return) is there such a thing as good or evil?

    Should this experience be only limited to one side of the spectrum?

    are you a part of, or separate from the Whole?

    I don't think that you can obtain a definitive answer to your question & if you do get one, I'll play devils advocate and show you the short comings of that stance on the topic.
     

    Thank you TargeT.  I've been experiencing some very troubling, interesting, weird things for almost two years now and have been hesitant to ask them in any discussion forum, until now.  I'm glad I finally asked.  I have very limited understanding about the big picture, so I can only speak from the perspective of a regular person here on Earth who is not yet enlightened.  

    As I understand it, the concept of good and evil/light and dark/right and wrong takes on a different meaning the higher you go up in dimensions, consciousness, and vibration?  So to those beings even the acts which we consider to be evil and despicable they see as necessary in order to create balance?  So our suffering is necessary?

    I guess the experience wouldn't be limited to the lower end of the spectrum if there is such a thing as Hieros Gamos or a "divine union", but how would we know which is which?

    Right now I still feel separate from the Whole.  I am trying to understand that I am a part of it.
     
    If you are experiencing multiple visitations of this nature then perhaps you need a spiritual purification (not an exorcism) by a competent practitioner. Then part of the treatment would be for a short time to close down your mind to any sexual activity until it has been cleared away.

    If it's just a wandering or local mischievous spirit then it would be easily cleared.

    If it's from your ancestors in the lower worlds who have a direct line to their descendants that too can be resolved pretty quickly.

    But if this is something say from your soul shard influencing you by remote viewing you then this would take a little longer to resolve.

    Sometimes there are incubus/sucubus curses but that requires a bit more sessions because there too a karma is involved and that could even be a curse that has been handed down from the actions of an ancestor which can be terrifying and happens more often than most can imagine.

    I don't know much about ET interference but there is human on human by psychic means whether consciously or unconsciously (like if they are aroused whilst thinking of you) but this scenario is easily dismissed and can go away.
     
    interesting.... I don't have any knowledge to contribute to this other than relating a personal experience and a picture of what I think caused it.


    Back in 2011, I had an occurrence that, from what I could gather online, related to incubus/succubus type activity. I woke up in the middle of the night from a really strange dream of being over the water behind our house with a white spherical light on one side of the body of water and the full moon on the other.  I looked down and could see all of the beach, the road and the expanse of houses beneath me. Then I saw my dog, far below in the yard, but instead of her head, she had a metal plate of some kind atop her neck and of course I woke up really disturbed by that.

     I lay there for a moment after waking, looked at the clock, and then felt that strange sensation of something unrecognizable climbing onto the bed. I couldn't move and was a little frightened...when...it felt like someone was doing something ( everything this thread is about) to me that was beyond intense. I would say nothing has ever matched that sensation: it felt incredible and kind of terrifying at the same time and it wouldn't stop. I had zero control of what was happening; was conscious but immobile.

    When I awoke again the next morning, I felt extremely tired, confused and embarrassingly icky. The clocks in the house: battery, wind-up and electric had all stopped. A frame in the kitchen had fallen off of the wall. I had slept late and could barely get going.

    So, I ran a bath and thought I'll just slowly wake up and relax for a bit longer and try to figure out what happened. Lights were off. I closed my eyes in the shadows of the room when the most dramatic golden light swept down through the window, washing the walls in this luminescent, tangibly warm brilliance.  I'd never seen the room glowing in such a way: deep copper and gold. We had a forest of trees outside that window, which blocked most sunlight from filtering in...and it was a west facing window, which made the light seem strange. My heart was captured by the vibrancy of it though, in a way difficult to describe.

    It was so lovely that I felt compelled to get out of the bath and grab my phone to try to capture the ambience. When I did this, I felt a presence as though someone was very close and watching me.

    So, I looked at the photo just taken: it had a shape in it that I could not explain. It made me feel very uncomfortable in contrast to the immensely soothing radiance in the room. The shape appeared to have a serpentine form with large eyes and sharp teeth above an energy body... that try as I might, I could never again recreate on the wall. At anytime of year or day since, the light has never again shone through that window in the same way or created that shape.

    I felt like what was in the photo might be what had come into my bed the night before...  so here's the photo, it's unfortunately cropped and I increased the saturation way back then to show somebody more clearly from my dark phone screen, but that was the only editing and it's the only copy I have all these years later.

    The regular reflections from the stained glass window and water are visible on the wall to the left center, just like any reflection one would expect to see, and then what looks like 3D live energy with (to me)  a very obvious face in the upper right corner. I don't know what it is...but it happened the morning after experiencing sex with an unseen something.Click image for larger version

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    Sorry to derail but is this a members only thread? arborealis, I have a story too.
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    Quote Posted by Valerie Villars (here)
    Sorry to derail but is this a members only thread?
    No, it is not.
    Probably should be though. Wonder how many people landed on this page and were disappointed by the lack of pornography

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    Quote Posted by Valerie Villars (here)
    Sorry to derail but is this a members only thread? arborealis, I have a story too.
    This thread isn’t private. It’ll say “Members Only” at the top of the page. Here are two examples where the threads are in the private section.

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    Victoria,

    I just noticed that the thread received more replies, so the late response.
    Some of the things that struck me when I read your answer would be a little more precise. Hope you do not mind.

    I had this experience that you had, even three times. The last time was summer 2008 it was warm and the door to the garden was open. A cat that was my friend but didn't live with me came to me that evening. She lay down in bed with me and we fell asleep. The night I slept I dreamed of a female being. I can't describe it because I didn't see the head, just the body. We had sex in our sleep, it felt uncomfortable. I was somehow not ready for it, but no matter what I did or tried to do to get rid of it, I couldn't. It was like a rigid, like I was immobile. I tried to scream in my dream but no sound came out of me. No matter how hard I tried, I couldn't.

    In the dream I saw this female being sitting on me so that I could not move. There was nothing around me, nothing but the bluish color of the being, everything else was black. Strangely, it occurred to me in a dream that I am not alone. I remembered the "sock" that was the name of the cat that was with me and somehow I managed to contact Socke. Socke reacted immediately and poked me on the face with her paws without claws. She didn't give up until I woke up. The rigid one let go of me, sock jumped out of bed and ran screaming into the garden. My room was filled with darkness and lightning shot through the whole apartment in this darkness. I couldn't see anything except the flashes. No electricity in the whole area, not even the street lights were on. I couldn't turn on the light and was afraid that the lightning would hit me. So I ran after the cat out into the garden. It was pitch dark outside, only lightning occasionally illuminated the area.

    I was afraid, I admit frankly, although I have seen and experienced a lot, but that scared me. I then went back to the apartment, got my blanket and sat in the garden. It didn't take me long to realize that it wasn't over. I could hear screams, children, people, animals, even birds. I didn't know what time it was either, all the energy was gone somehow. My first thought was that whatever it was, that being soaked up all of its energy. Socke my cat had noticed that I was sitting in the garden, she was suddenly under my blanket. It was a very pleasant feeling that she was with me, I could feel her fear, she was trembling all over. It nestled against me like never before.

    You are absolutely right in thinking that this being is made of energy. It's just energy I can't say what form of energy. When you zoom in, you can see something behind the creature on the left that looks something like a face that is covered in darkness. But that can also be a reflection. This being reminds me of my first encounter as a child. Victoria, when you think back on this experience after nine years. Then what comes to mind, does it remind you of something in your childhood? As you wrote you felt uncomfortable, but there was something you could feel a presence like someone or something was watching you. But you didn't find the radiation in the room threatening.

    Thus, two beings were present at that time or over that time. One that was not only threatening, but also pressed you. While the other being tried to somehow warn you or even protect you. Can you say that? Or how do you think it would be designed correctly? When I first met, there were two beings, one that attracted me, the other that wanted to protect me as best she could. I can only speak for myself now. This encounter back in my childhood was the trigger for many things that happened afterwards. But that cannot be compared, it happened to you in 2011, but it happened to me in 1972. In any case, I think that we could learn a lot from your contribution, for which a big thank you goes.
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    Hello Iyakum,

    That's quite the encounter you had.  My first thought: Isn't it interesting how animals are so very aware of our mental and emotional states? My pets have many times arrived to my side with reassurance during unusual and supernatural experiences.  

    Quote "I could hear screams, children, people, animals, even birds."
    What do you think these were? Were you able to confer with any of your neighbors afterward whether they had experienced anything that same night?

    I'm going through a steep learning curve, so my apologies if I jump off-topic momentarily, but it seems the energy we create, or are capable of harnessing and emitting can wreak havoc around us when under the influence of elevated emotions, or tense and frightening situations.  I am learning that others, humans included, who recognize energy in people do seem to target and parasitize them for this reason. Hence, pertaining to the OP, I am very leery of inviting such experiences or trusting unseen forces to be who and how they present themselves.

    Particularly, I am starting to see many of my experiences as being less spiritual/paranormal and more likely human or technology-generated. This becomes a little blurred by my evolving cognition of the increasing partnership between the two.

    Probably, like yours, my most profound experiences and the implications of them primarily stem from childhood, yet, I doubt mine were as purely and energetically organic in nature as your experiences.  Anything might be possible, though. Truly, the more I learn, the less I know...except for the imperative to be situationally aware at all times.

    Reading what you write,

    Quote My room was filled with darkness and lightning shot through the whole apartment in this darkness. I couldn't see anything except the flashes.
    I am reminded of your innate energy mentioned in your other posts being expressed as lightning, or even clashing with the confrontation of another energetic source, escaping in every direction... I would imagine that such a psychically and physically charged event could amplify your energy exponentially and be quite terrifying.

    I think primarily the difference between your account and mine, aside of energy escaping vs. energy draining, was that yours occurred in a semi-dream state, which makes me think the being might not have been strong enough to approach you outside of sleep. Maybe that is often the case with succubi, whereas mine took place while I was fully awake, my senses were alert my eyes were open, I had already verified my dog was safe and sound beside the bed...and could feel and hear something approaching, though I could not move. It actually makes me quite disappointed looking back, that I did not have the accurate perception, strength and wherewithal to stop the event...or even know to do so.

    I can relate to your fear in the moment very well, so reading your experience gave me chills.
    Quote "I couldn't turn on the light and was afraid that the lightning would hit me."
    Thanks to a number of seemingly non-natural storm scenarios since 1996, I have been very apprehensive during storms... often still pausing at the onset to assess whether the occurrence is a natural one. Thankfully, the trepidation has waned over the years and I can appreciate spring thunderstorms again.




     To answer your question:  The golden light in the room was exceptionally warm,  and comforting. If light could have weight, it was a heavy wave of luminosity that washed down the walls and over me, like a fiery sunrise chasing shadows down desert canyon corridors...which, thinking back, would have been difficult to create even if the sun had been able to shine (it could not due to the orientation)through that window, because the stained glass there is mostly dark green, brown, blue and white.
     
    The light did not remind me of anything that I can remember from childhood. I don't think I have experienced it before, or ever again...it was just there, and it enveloped the room, breaking the train of my troubled thoughts.

    So, yes, in that respect, I think it was perhaps protective. Maybe it was not the same presence that was with me the night before. Actually over the years, I can clearly see the difference between the two in terms of polarity.. while back then, I was functioning in a fear-based state.

    At the time, I even considered it might be somebody I knew who was very versed in OBEs and manipulating perception and qi. There was zero motive or need for him to do that, though.  

    I don't see what you are referencing as a second image/face when I zoom in.  All along the left, because of the granite walls, it looks to me like regular light variations, geometric patterns and water reflecting. Vertically to the right, also appears as agitated water, however, it is very pronounced from the rest, which seemed odd. In the top right corner, since that day, I can only see what looks like a three-dimensional anterior view of a rabbit or reptile, head-only, with an angular face, Cheshire grin,bared teeth and distinct pupils. There is nothing in the stained glass that should have produced such a detailed, three dimensional, non-polygonal image on the wall.


    BUT, that is not to say what you and I both see is not there. If there was a presence in the room, which it overwhelmingly felt like, then perhaps your own subconscious picks up on it in the image as a similarly sourced being from your experiences, as I might recognize my own recollected beings in your photographs, descriptions or depictions. Even, perhaps(?), these beings can take on different forms tailored to each of us, so that what we see in the familiar energy is exactly as we experienced, and might explain why others see or don't see what we do.

    I think our minds recognize, first, what is familiar and that is predominantly what we see...before being able to more intentionally decipher and identify the unfamiliar.

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    I tried to see what you were seeing in the photo...is this the shape you see, that I highlighted on the left, in red? If so it reminds me eerily of the image I drew (in the Horus-Ra archontic thread, https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1311175)

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    This could be an example of simple pareidolia, though so many things I don't mention for reasons of privacy happened that same night, which make me think otherwise.

    I had shown the original unedited photo to some supernatural researcher online all those years ago, and he responded about it being an archon...with the caveat not to toss the word around, or say it unnecessarily.

    Looking at these photos, and having scoured any I could find of water reflections online for comparison, I feel much like this:
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    ...wondering if it's all just a state of apophenia... and how would one tell the difference, anyway?
    http://www.munroe-falls-paranormal-s...om/blog/?p=440
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    Victoria,

    sorry i didn't answer you yesterday because i had to read everything over and over again to make comparisons and give myself the time to remember something that somehow was told about my time with the Tabiyan people or not. Unfortunately, I did not split the diaries into categories such as magic, ascension or encounters, so I looked for luck and found nothing. Certainly there is an info or knowledge about it, but I don't know where to find it.

    Ok, but now to your contribution I still suspect that there were two beings that is independent of the two photos. Why I think so is because you felt or perceived two different presences. One was positive, the other the opposite. Only a few things are not quite clear to me yet, there could be two scenarios. The first would be the first being to harm you, without your consent, let's stick to it. You woke up because you felt something in your subconscious that I warned you about. As I suspect, the being took possession of your consciousness and your being even before you awoke. This proves the rigidity you were in when you woke up and movement was not possible. What happened afterwards is surely shameful and that you felt very uncomfortable afterwards, so that you went straight to the bathroom. But at that moment you did not pay attention to whether the being was still present or not. Sorry, the photos are not so important at the moment, what is more important would be your memory of this being, it may be that it was still present.

    But it may also be that you only felt or saw the remains of the presence. That's why an exact memory of it would be important, but not at the same time, because you definitely want to forget such a traumatic experience.

    Ok, I guess there were two beings. Which leads me to believe that there were two beings. You say there were two different feelings, positive and negative, I assume the first being was faster with you than the second. The first took possession, as already written, I suspect the second being was there because you called it. You instinctively called for help in the subconscious, which is why the second being came to you later to help and protect you. Unfortunately it came too late, but stayed with you longer for two reasons, the first was to protect you from the moment, to make you feel that you are not alone, to give you comfort and to show you that you are exceptional ,

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    Quote Posted by Victoria (here)

    ----edit:

    I tried to see what you were seeing in the photo...is this the shape you see, that I highlighted on the left, in red? If so it reminds me eerily of the image I drew (in the Horus-Ra archontic thread, https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1311175)

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    This could be an example of simple pareidolia, though so many things I don't mention for reasons of privacy happened that same night, which make me think otherwise.

    I had shown the original unedited photo to some supernatural researcher online all those years ago, and he responded about it being an archon...with the caveat not to toss the word around, or say it unnecessarily.

    Looking at these photos, and having scoured any I could find of water reflections online for comparison, I feel much like this:
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    ...wondering if it's all just a state of apophenia... and how would one tell the difference, anyway?
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    Ok, I'll leave the recordings aside and try to answer your question about energy.
    In principle, you give yourself the answer, because there are many contributions to it from other members. But that is not important since you asked the question I try to answer, but this answer is based on my experiences and not on those of you or others.

    I have asked the same question before, that was when I was out with Amesu in the forest. I have to mention something to make it easier to understand why I was always out in nature and with Amesu in the woods. I can think better outdoors in nature than in rooms, it's like my thoughts can spread there, but I think everyone has had such an experience. In closed rooms, my thoughts and energy bounce off the walls, so if someone needs help or if I want to contact someone, I go outdoors, where I can develop more freely.

    To the energy beings or beings that have risen to a higher level of existence. Everyone has already had the experience of leaps of thought, what is completely normal and everyone knows. But there are people like you Victoria, extraordinarily blessed with gifts, also abilities that you do not yet know, but which you still have hidden in you.
    Everyone has had the experience that sometimes there are thoughts that just don't let us go, as if they stuck to us until what you think occurs. We cannot do anything against such thoughts, on the one hand they are very positive because we can learn from them what we unfortunately do not do because we are distracted from the thought that does not let us go. But this thought that does not let us go could be readable for everyone who has the gift to grasp thoughts, it has happened to me so many times and it has always been fulfilled.

    You see we can grasp such thoughts, thoughts are nothing more than energy, electric currents in our heads. But now think about what a being that has already achieved ascension is capable of, it can read minds. That or the beings who were illegal with you in 2011, both knew you before, observed you and read, I suppose. This could have happened at any time, starting with your stormy outings, when you asked a natural element to implement your will without knowing what you were doing ... and ... it worked. So you then unconsciously gave up something of yourself to your gift, when you were in the wild in bad weather and let your energy run free, something changed in your nature. Unfortunately, it happened to you like many others, it was not funded, that's why you are here now, like me and many others. Your question whether beings like you have met you or me and others can take a different form and whether they have grasped or read your thoughts beforehand ...?

    The answer: "YES"! Energy is malleable, especially when it is energy that is intelligent. Such beings could take any shape, form and appearance they want, but only in the original measure, what I want to say with it, an example. I would be able to ascend to a higher level of existence as energy, I am 1.85 cm, approx. 85 kg, broad shoulders that are my approximate body measurements. I cannot change these dimensions even when I climb, the same dimensions always remain, I cannot take the look of a car or a ship. But that remains only a guess, since we know that we can ascend, but we do not know exactly what we would then be able to do. Some things we already know, I'll take myself as an example. Just like you, when I was young I did things like commanding natural elements, at the time I didn't know what I was doing and why it worked, but the fact is it worked. Then there is the grasping of thoughts, the sending of healing energy and much more that we may not even know. But there are good and bad sides to both, but everyone is familiar with it.

    Victoria, I don't want to know what happened that night, that's your private matter, but after a while you learned something, you don't have to tell it or share it with us. But whatever it was, it's very powerful. Sorry I don't want you to feel troubled now, but if I do then I beg your pardon.

    I hope that I was able to help you with this, I am open to questions and try my best to answer them.

    In conclusion, the time I spent with the Tabiyaners was very educational and I don't know what would have happened to me if they hadn't accepted me.
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    Iyakum, my friend, thank you.

    Please do not apologize, I posted hoping to contribute and don't mind delving deeper, especially if it helps us both, or better yet, anyone else who is trying to put their own pieces together.

    Thank you for helping me to look at an event that I really haven't paid much attention to in almost a decade.   I write things, many times, hoping someone else can do something with them, or glean information from the experiences, forgetting I still have so much to learn and acknowledge from them, myself. Which I only realise by how many times I had to go back and edit that post!

    Quote "we can grasp such thoughts, thoughts are nothing more than energy"
    You are very good at this, as are several Avalonians, I am learning.


    My largest takeaway revelation in what you write and our conversation here, is that this was probably an abduction event that I didn't want to see that way...and possible incidents of the same (though, non sexual) all the way back through life are peppering my memories suddenly.  You are right, too, the actual physical sensation very well could have been possession: the lines between them are vague to me. Energy is key in whatever transpired.

    There are some pretty significant details I left out, which is indicative in itself and which I should share, since you have invested the honest time, concern and effort to examine and analyze the situation. (thank you)

    Not that this really changes anything, but...

    First, the interim between my strange dream and being 'infringed', was at least ten minutes, during which I could sit up, look at the clock (1:47AM, I think), move around and pet my dog who was sleeping soundly.  The one thing that startled me in those moments was a very loud "bang!" sound from across the house. My senses were piqued.

    It was only while lying there, straining to listen in the dark and shake the weirdness of the dream over water, that I noticed movement and the sinking in the mattress, as something crossed the foot of the bed. I could not see anything approaching, though. However, I could see to the corners of the room, and the closet door, yet nobody decipherable was present. There was just nothing visible there.

    That's when I realized I also couldn't move any more. It wasn't sleep paralysis. What followed, I have no idea how long the duration was, it seemed like it went on forever...too long....much like Ernie mentions above...but to the point that I blacked out and don't remember it ending.

    The most significant part I omitted (and for the life of me, I don't know why I didn't connect this as being important), is that I did not awaken in the bed afterward. I woke up while it was still dark, in the middle of the night, my back on the cold hard floor across the house, feet-first in front of two french doors that were wide-open to the back yard. I remember feeling the damp chill of the outside air and the cold of the marble... wondering why I was there. Without thinking much more, I must have gone back to bed, though I don't remember that part, either.

    When I woke up again, it was late morning, almost noon. My energy was gone. Birds were singing, the dog wanted to go outside. The clocks were not working. My boyfriend at the time, had given me a large wood-framed agenda/calendar/scheduling board that had inexplicably crashed to the floor in the kitchen during the night.

    On the other hand, the blanketing glow that morning, only lasted (I think?) 10 minutes, at most.  I'm not quite sure, because I was overcome by the beauty of it and not really making intentional notes at that point.

    Also, there are similarities in what I experienced with other posts. Comparable to what Ernie deftly described, above, regarding his Kundalini rising and the upending chaos afterward, this experience could certainly be looked at as a pivotal event/time-frame for me that initiated, chronologically, an almost instantaneous unraveling of, and tumultuously direction-changing chapter in, my life. All of which I am immensely grateful for now.

    Within a matter of months after it happened, I had another abduction event in New York. That time, it was distinctly military and medical in nature and there was, as far as I recall, absolutely zero "goodness" resulting from the experience. I was doggedly determined to bring back a piece of the experience for proof. I think the severe pain and marks afterward, were part of paying the physical consequences for that.

    Anyway, I share these details as confirmation for others and myself ...that maybe such episodes and ordeals are connected to numerous incidents which can seem unrelated over the course of a lifetime. They are likely not standalone occurrences.

    Thank you, Iyakum, for kindly helping me see this and unblocking some of my memories...and thank you, EFO, for doing much the same, both in such positive light. You have helped me to integrate the shadows, for which I am very appreciative.
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    It's hair raising, weird, uncanny and sex with aliens is even worse!

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    at the moment i'd just settle for a sexual relationship from a being in this dimension.

    this thread has been excellent reading. kudos to those who have shared. i may have a thing or 2 to report, if i can develop the courage
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    I have a suggestion that may help you stop it in case it ever happens again. I have not experienced the lights that you did I but it works in the same state you described and it’s not based in faith (particular belief system not required). I learned it directly from spirit guardians during a couple of the incidents early on when it began to happen far more regularly and it’s worked every single time (a lot of times, since roughly six years ago), regardless of the type of being (though it takes a bit longer sometimes with the more powerful ones). I’ll describe how I learned it first because although it’s really simple it goes against the strongest human instinct I have at the time that it occurs, then you can decide for yourself if you want to try it, if required (hopefully not). This will be a lengthy post so I won’t describe fully the entirety of the incidents and just cut to the relevant parts.

    First incident I was instructed. My state was fully conscious, paralysed, laying on my back in bed after having slept. The being was covering my entire body, except for my neck and face. I could clearly sense its intent was to suffocate me and I was trying to break free by trying to move before it covered the rest of my body. There was a small group of my guides/guardians behind my head (top of my head as I was laying down), whatever they were doing was holding the being off my neck and face.

    They instructed me to shift my focus from the being and direct it inwards into myself (telepathically). I felt that if I did that it would rapidly overwhelm and suffocate me, I was terrified of that happening and it was the last thing I wanted to do, I had to let go of my very strong human instinct to do it. So I said to my guides, “fine but do not let it on my neck or face” (telepathically, so energy to the effect of those words). Then I did it, I stopped fighting and took my attention away from the outer by focussing within. Just the same as when you stop focussing on the outer world and focus inwards to take a few deep breaths. As soon as I had achieved that calm inner state I moved my body and I felt the weight and pressure of the being lift. The being and my guides all disappeared from my perception, hence releasing me from any affect. I understand this to be grounding out of the spiritual and firmly into the physical.

    That’s all I do but I’ll include what my HS instructed me to do because it was an important piece of information for me. Another time I woke up paralysed to what felt like a hand gently, slowly running down the outer of my thigh. I had not yet learned how to tell the difference between the nature of the beings and saw no threat. I was calm and curious and intrigued. I’ll include details about the helpers in each incident, it may help others perceive them more clearly too.

    I just know it’s what people refer to as our HS, it’s very clear to me who it is when it/I/she speaks to me. My HS speaks to me directly, very rarely, only when I’m in big trouble and in way over my head. I feel the presence of my HS appear at the height of just slightly above my head, positioned above my right shoulder and it speaks with words, in my head I think. Difficult to discern whether it’s in my head or not because I feel it coming from the position outside myself on my right and hear words spoken clearly and vividly to me, I’m assuming it’s in my head because I’m confident it would be obvious if I was hearing it with my ears.

    Back to the attack. My HS said to me, “move”. I hadn’t even tried to move, I hadn’t perceived any danger and it was already obvious to me that I was paralysed. I argued, “I can’t”, and my HS replied in an urgent tone, “Yes you can, it just feels like you can’t, move now!”. And so I did and the incident was immediately over. So as much as it feels like I absolutely can’t move, I actually can, in the manner I have described, every time.

    That may or may not have ended up being a sexual attack. I don’t know because I’ve experienced violent attacks before that began gently to get my attention on them and then once I’ve processed what’s happening they pounce on me full force the moment it has elicited a sharp fearful reaction. But I have had one incident that was most definitely of a sexual nature and I broke free the same way. I was out of my body, standing in my kitchen, while my body was sleeping in my bed. I have since moved house but that house was a long house and the kitchen and my bedroom were at opposite ends of the house.

    I’ll briefly describe the helper who helped me with this incident. It’s a tricky one to describe but it communicates telepathically and I feel to the right of me, at a distance. The distance varies and depends on the size of the space I’m in because it’s like it’s the fabric of the space that’s communicating to me, and yet I perceive it to always be at the boundary of the space I’m in, coming from the right in a localised space. Anyway, this being watches out for me and intervenes where appropriate. There’s much more I could say about this particular being but I’m still learning about it and this isn’t the place to explore that, but what I will say is that I think it’s always with us and we have the ability to perceive it while fully grounded in the physical realm (and we mistakenly think it’s just our own thoughts).

    Ok, so I’m in the kitchen when this being alerts me to a being that’s with my body, it said telepathically, “there’s a being with your body”. I argued (I’m painfully argumentative and complacent at times), “no that’s just the cat” and the being said, “no, it’s not the cat”. I then shifted my focus to the being in the bedroom and felt a very sharp pain of fear in my heart. I understood it to be malevolent and began sprinting towards my body. It suspect it would have been disastrous to have challenged the being while out of my body because the helper being then blinded me by putting very bright light into my eyes (this had happened before, not shocking to me and it doesn’t hurt at all like normal light can).

    This caused me to stop dead in my tracks and then I squinted my eyes and opened them again over and over to try and see. This cause me to open my physical eyes, and I was suddenly back in my physical body in the bedroom. Not surprisingly I was paralysed and there was a being on me, attacking me. I was enjoying being out of my body and my body was really tired, so I angrily told the being to **** off, moved, and was released from it. I was so tired that I immediately went back to sleep. Big mistake, don’t do that, get up for a while and really ground yourself if that ever happens. I still had some awareness as I was drifting off to sleep and felt something touching me sexually (not going into details but it was unmistakably sexual). I did as I usually do and was released from it immediately.

    I know it’s a terrifying thought to do this while that’s going on, but if you haven’t tried it then you have nothing to lose at that time. If you have tried it and it didn’t work then check and make sure you weren’t praying or seeking help for it while your focus was away from the being. It’s tricky, if you’re begging for help with the being then it’s still a part of the reality you’re perceiving. You have to really let it go, scary at first but always effective without fail in my experience.

    Just a couple of notes to finish this post with. I’ve found that I will most often become paralysed regardless of the nature of the being present, and I think it’s due to the huge difference in our energies. So a being can be benevolent too and have the same effect. Best to play it safe until you are certain you know the nature of the being and just ground yourself as soon as you can but once you’re clear it’s a benevolent being you can just ask it to move a little further away to release this effect.

    Aside from dreams, I don’t recall ever being left alone during any of my experiences, regardless of the nature of the experience. I suspect that none of us are ever alone and it’s just a matter of being able to perceive them clearly enough. If you think there was a benevolent being present (some can appear scary, they’re alien to us) then there probably was a benevolent being present. I have not experienced a malevolent being being able to trick me energetically, only with actions. In my experience we can trust our senses with that.
    Never give up on your silly, silly dreams.

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    Well that was a scary read. One experience as frightening as that and I might just die of fright. Hate to admit it.

    I watched a very interesting documentary about elves and fairies and it feels like these experiences are similar. We call them aliens today as that fits our current model of reality. They may not even have anything to do with Ufos people see in the sky.

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