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    Macedonia storm: Deadly freak floods hit Skopje



    At least 21 people have died in floods that hit the Macedonian
    capital, Skopje, following torrential rain.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37002364

    Storm update

    7th August 2016 Last

    Chris Fawkes has more on the weather systems bringing
    heavy rain to Mexico, India and parts of the Philippines.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/36997417

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    There are many reasons for seemly bizarre weather that is occurring throughout this world. Changes on the non physical level, which effects the physical, which in time will lead to a specific moment in time in which a great change will occur. Contamination of the environment, and destruction of the natural world, Earth reacting to Man's actions, since it is a living entity, demonic forces and their actions in the spiritual realms, weather modification experiments, since the weather is used not only for military applications, but political also, I could go on.

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    ... vortex in the air:

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    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    ... vortex in the air:


    that would be a magnetic vortex... probably pretty far north where our magnetic fields curve out from the poles.. not unheard of, I've seen similar before when I was far north in alaska (barrow).
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    Quote Posted by Ellisa (here)
    The Gulf Stream hardly gets a mention in discussions about Global Warming, but the fact is that the warm current that is the Gulf Stream is why in the recent past the climate of the British Isles has been so temperate. The warming of the planet generally has diluted the warmer waters of the Gulf Stream and disrupted the flow of the current. Without its influence there will be even more disrupted weather patterns in various areas, but especially in the northern hemisphere. Scotland is actually on the same latitude as Moscow but until recently the Gulf Stream kept Scotland much warmer. Maybe the possible coming Ice Age is a result of the fragmentation of the Gulf Stream- which is thought to be due to the melting of the ice caps in the Arctic and Greenland, and thus a recordable part of Climate Change.
    Remember the BP gulf oil spill, that impacted directly on the gulf stream.

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    Quote Posted by Ellisa (here)
    The Gulf Stream hardly gets a mention in discussions about Global Warming, but the fact is that the warm current that is the Gulf Stream is why in the recent past the climate of the British Isles has been so temperate. The warming of the planet generally has diluted the warmer waters of the Gulf Stream and disrupted the flow of the current. Without its influence there will be even more disrupted weather patterns in various areas, but especially in the northern hemisphere. Scotland is actually on the same latitude as Moscow but until recently the Gulf Stream kept Scotland much warmer. Maybe the possible coming Ice Age is a result of the fragmentation of the Gulf Stream- which is thought to be due to the melting of the ice caps in the Arctic and Greenland, and thus a recordable part of Climate Change.
    Remember the BP gulf oil spill, that impacted directly on the gulf stream.
    how would the BP oil spill impact directly on the gulf stream??

    How would the gulf stream be "diluted" that makes no sense at all... beside the gulf stream's influence is mimimal & does NOT give the warm climate you think it does... see here:
    Quote The Gulf Stream-European climate myth
    The panic is based on a long held belief of the British, other Europeans, Americans and, indeed, much of the world's population that the northward heat transport by the Gulf Stream is the reason why western Europe enjoys a mild climate, much milder than, say, that of eastern North America. This idea was actually originated by an American military man, Matthew Fontaine Maury, in the mid nineteenth century and has stuck since despite the absence of proof.

    We now know this is a myth, the climatological equivalent of an urban legend. In a detailed study published in the Quarterly Journal of the Royal Meteorological Society in 2002, we demonstrated the limited role that ocean heat transport plays in determining regional climates around the Atlantic Ocean.
    http://ocp.ldeo.columbia.edu/res/div/ocp/gs/

    there's SO MUCH BS surrounding the "global warming / climate change" scam... and people believe this crap with out a scrap of personal research... sad really.
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    there's SO MUCH BS surrounding the "global warming / climate change" scam... and people believe this crap with out a scrap of personal research... sad really.
    Gee thanks.

    Statements like this are what quickly drag a thread into the mud.

    I guess it's clear that you feel strongly about the subject. Care to help us benefit from your time spent learning about it to explain a little better what aspect of "global warming / climate change" is a scam? I think at the very least you need to do a better job of describing what the "scam" is. Are you trying to say global temperatures are not rising at all? Or is it the blame on hydrocarbon burning emissions as the cause for the increase in temps? Seems like you've spent a lot of time researching it all in order to feel so correct about your opinions. Care to spend a small percentage of that time to explain the "BS" instead of just writing it on a brick and chucking it through a window?

    Joe

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    Quote Posted by Joe Akulis (here)
    I guess it's clear that you feel strongly about the subject. Care to help us benefit from your time spent learning about it to explain a little better what aspect of "global warming / climate change" is a scam? I think at the very least you need to do a better job of describing what the "scam" is. Are you trying to say global temperatures are not rising at all? Or is it the blame on hydrocarbon burning emissions as the cause for the increase in temps? Seems like you've spent a lot of time researching it all in order to feel so correct about your opinions.
    All control comes down to energy management. CLimate change (modernly sold to us, and even in the 70's when they said vehicle emissions were causing GLOBAL COOLING) is leveraged as a control method... look at the outcome and the "methods used" to control "climate change".

    Carbon tax
    Vehicle emissions restrictions
    Power production restrictions (targeted suppression of 3rd world countries)
    etc...

    all of the "fixes" are oppression based.


    So there's one side,


    now for the data...

    Where exactly do you measure global average temperature?


    Statistics you say? (ever take a statistics class? you really need a LOT of context to make sense of any statistic... )


    Quote Posted by Joe Akulis (here)
    Care to spend a small percentage of that time to explain the "BS" instead of just writing it on a brick and chucking it through a window?

    Joe
    I have around 5,000 posts here.. my stance can be very easily found on this topic and my research easily found via the search button... but I did a little leg work for you above (again, personal research?? come on, if you couldn't find these answers out, did you even try or just ask me to give you an answer? why the hell would you trust what I say.. I'm just one person, open your mind, look at both sides and decide.. beware of echo chambers)

    Here are two pages of my posts on "global warming" (alternately you could search for "climate change" i'm sure more would come up as well)
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/sear...rchid=13838700

    I'm usualy very good about sourcing my posts... I'm in class so I was a bit lazy with my above exasperated post... I should have provided context.
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    Summary video for July 2016:

    SOTT Earth Changes Summary - July 2016: Extreme Weather, Planetary Upheaval, Meteor Fireballs

    Sott.net Mon, 08 Aug 2016 22:13 UTC


    © Sott.net Enormous meteor fireball - possibly a comet fragment - disintegrates over the US Southwest, 27 July 2016

    Published on Aug 8, 2016
    July 2016 was a crazy month in more ways than one.
    • A global spike in terror attacks and people going postal was apparently mirrored by Mother Nature.
    • Among the extreme weather events and trends in environmental upheaval last month, we observed: A destructive tornado outbreak in South Africa (where it's winter-time).
    • Hail the size of golf-balls falling in, of all places, Colombia and Brazil.
    • Intense electrical storms everywhere, with lightning strikes continuing to pick people off in alarming numbers.
    • Deluges of rain washing away cars and people everywhere from Mexico City to Berlin to Maryland.
    • Devastating flooding across swathes of China, India and Nepal.
    • Multiple destructive waterspouts coming ashore in Cuba.
    • Animals, both wild and captive, attacking and killing people/
    • An enormous meteor fragmenting from horizon to horizon over the US Southwest
    These were just some of the signs in July 2016...

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    Sun’s activity will cause global cooling – RT News

    https://www.rt.com/usa/355301-global...-sun-activity/

    Quote Recent research by a scientist has suggested that there could be an imminent 35-year period of low solar activity that could lead to cooler global temperatures.
    If new models of the inner workings of the sun published by Professor Valentina Zharkova and her colleagues at Northumbria University on Tuesday are correct, then future variations in solar activity will be able to be predicted more accurately.

    The sun is already known to have 11-year cycles of sunspots coming and going on the surface. But models that rely on looking at external features of the stars have only had mixed success in predicting the solar cycles.

    Zharkova’s team found that the sun’s magnetic fields come from two components from two different layers of its body, and suggests that looking at the interactions between these two magnetic waves either magnifies or diminishes the sun’s intensity.

    [YOUTUBEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sh_nlz43Pc][/YOUTUBE]

    Perhaps most startlingly, observations made by the team using this method suggest that we may be entering a period of reduced solar activity, meaning that a period of lower global temperatures could be on the way. These conditions could be similar to those seen during the “Little Ice Age” of the 1600s, the peak of which was called the “Maunder Minimum,” a 70-year period when sunspots became extremely rare.

    “In the Northern Hemisphere … the rivers were frozen, there were winters and no summers, and so on,” Zharkova said of the Little Ice Age, adding that she estimated the new predicted sunspot minimum to last for 35 years.

    Whether future cycles actually match the scientists’ predictions will put their model to the test, but some climate scientists were not accepting of the new research, with some even trying to suppress it.

    “Some of them were welcoming and discussing. But some of them were quite – I would say – pushy,” she told The Global Warming Policy Forum in an interview. “They were trying to actually silence us. Some of them contacted the Royal Astronomical Society demanding, behind out back, to withdraw our press release.”

    The Little Ice Age is a controversial topic among scientist, with some arguing that low solar activity contributed to cooler temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere and others contending atmospheric effects of volcanic eruptions pushed temperatures lower.
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    You will never see that that kind news in the west's media, they will not let the truth out until they have no other choice.
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    Wow , lots going on in our world, prayers for all who lost their homes / life.

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    Is the United States using HAARP to devastate food supplies and cause mass starvation in other countries?

    By David on 11 August 2016 GMT

    NATURAL NEWS....

    Is the United States using HAARP to devastate food supplies and cause mass starvation in other countries?

    Wednesday, August 10, 2016 by: J. D. Heyes
    Tags: HAARP, weather control, drought

    In August 2010, as much of Russia's cultivable land was being consumed by flames, then-Russian Prime
    Minister Vladimir Putin issued an order halting all grain exports, choosing instead to preserve what could
    be harvested for his own people.The out-of-control wildfires spread quickly amid a punishing drought that
    produced conditions leading to the destruction of more than one-third of Russian farmland used to grow crops.

    Or was the drought to blame? Some suspected something much more sinister.

    As reported by The Guardian, a UK-based newspaper, the Russian tabloid press openly posited at the time
    that the United States may have been behind temperatures and drought not seen throughout Russia in 140
    years. They speculated that the U.S. government was orchestrating the heatwave in order to give American
    farmers an advantage in the global marketplace while sticking it to an old nemesis. They speculated that a
    controversial experiment built and funded by the military and civilian institutes of higher learning was to blame.


    Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/054936_HA...#ixzz4H0Ic26yF










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    Since the 80's I have been banging on about the scale, and speed of the changes we will see under AGW. The thing is that all humanity needed to do was light the blue touch Paper and Mother N. would do the rest? We have now burned out the touch paper and are about to get Mother N's part of the bargain. With the Sea ice drop of 07' uncovering up to a 1/3rd of the basin we began to gain more heat from a source long hidden from the Carbon Cycle. Since then we have seen the action move over to the U.S, side of the basin ( Beaufort Sea is near ice free at present) so the weather tweaks we have been seeing over Eurasia are now extending into the lower 48.

    Currently each year the Arctic is adding about a moderate Nino's worth of energy into the climate system ( why such a moderate one last year blasted the records of the 'Super Nino' of 98' out of the water) Once we see a return of the 'perfect melt storm Synoptic' ( as we did in 07') the Arctic Basin will go ice free. This would put over 2 Nino's worth of energy into the climate system each year ( remember 'normal' Nino's only occur every 5 to 7 years) and this figure increases as the 'ice free' date moves back into the year ( settling out around when Hudson loses its ice?) so along with an atmosphere ever more caspable of holding onto heat we uncover another way of capturing that heat!
    With 24hr sun at solstice the Arctic receives more energy per M squared than the equator ever does over any period of the year ( over 14Watts perM squared?) so a rapidly melting pack , exposing ever more 'dark water' at that time of year will not be a help?

    This year we have seen the Jet punch through the intertropical convergence zone and into the winter side of the planet. This is far from 'normal' behaviour. The Quasi biennial Oscillation has also gone a bit nuts doing stuff that is supposed to be barred by the laws of Physics???

    All in all another interesting year eh?

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    Quote Posted by GrayWolfBG (here)
    Once we see a return of the 'perfect melt storm Synoptic' ( as we did in 07') the Arctic Basin will go ice free.
    Conversely... it seems that NASA (ok ok.. grain of salt) completely disagrees with you

    Quote A new NASA study says that an increase in Antarctic snow accumulation that began 10,000 years ago is currently adding enough ice to the continent to outweigh the increased losses from its thinning glaciers.

    The research challenges the conclusions of other studies, including the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s (IPCC) 2013 report, which says that Antarctica is overall losing land ice.

    According to the new analysis of satellite data, the Antarctic ice sheet showed a net gain of 112 billion tons of ice a year from 1992 to 2001. That net gain slowed to 82 billion tons of ice per year between 2003 and 2008.
    http://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/...er-than-losses

    Looks like ice re-allocation and addition, not ice loss...
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    .
    From http://express.co.uk/news/uk/699681/...e-Britain-2017

    Freak climate changes could spark ‘mini ice-age’ in Britain from 2017

    Freak climate change events could cause a mini ice age in Britain in 2017 - a shock new prediction suggests.
    Sat, Aug 13, 2016

    A “triple whammy” of unlikely weather surprises could cause temperatures to plummet from next year.

    Experts believe the UK could be in for a big freeze within the next few years as three major forms of climate change trigger "substantial cooling”.

    Drastic changes in ocean conditions, greenhouse gases and a weakening of the sun threaten increasingly worsening winters of blistering blizzards and severe snowstorms for years to come.

    Dramatic climate changes and "hasty policies" to handle them could mean "rolling blackouts" in the UK over the next few years.

    These "worse case scenario" climate would hit the elderly hardest, leaving "some pensioners alone in the dark" on a freezing nights resigned to a "lonely death".

    Scientists recently warned the sun's activity is at its lowest for 100 years and some have even drawn parallels with the period when the last mini ice age hit.


    It is predicted the next Maunder minimum could begin next year

    Severe cold would be brought about for the most part by a big decrease in solar activity as the earth is warmed by "sunspots" and solar flares.

    This drop in sunspot activity leads to a so-called Maunder Minimum, which is believed to be responsible for the cripplingly cold winters Europe experienced three centuries ago.

    London's river Thames froze over during Britain’s last Maunder minimum period in the 1600s.

    Drawing on 400 years of sunspot observations, experts believe we are heading for a similar temperature "minimum".

    However, Grahame Madge, meteorologist for the Met Office, told Daily Star Online although a "grand solar minimum" is expected, it will do little to counteract global warming caused by man-made change.

    Irregular and complex climatic changes affecting the equatorial Pacific region, known as El Niño, could also play a major part.


    Three factors could bring about major weather changes for the UK from 2017
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    I was here last year sharing on how I keep seeing a High Pressure Ridge out in the East Pacific Ocean always bobbing North and South making the Jet Stream change more dramatically. I have not seen the Western Coast of the USA having it cooler, but hotter. It's more like the High Pressure System in the East Pacific Ocean changing the Jet Stream so dramatically that it brings the Arctic Down in the Jet Stream over Central USA more, which brings that cold down more towards Eastern USA. Which I was told H.A.A.R.P. and these other places are shooting beams in the Atmosphere (Making this bobbing High Pressure System I have constantly been seeing in the East Pacific Ocean for years.) Clouds just disappear before hitting the Coast of California, Oregon and Washington. Clouds look blocked and start detouring to the North or South or Dissipate on Radar I look at for years. Making the Jet Stream change dramatically.

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    President Barack Obama declared Louisiana a disaster after floods killed five

    By David on 15 August 2016 GMT




    ‘President Barack Obama issued a disaster declaration on Sunday for flood-ravaged
    Louisiana, where at least five people have died and emergency crews have rescued
    more than 7,000 people stranded by historic flooding.

    Governor John Bel Edwards said residents had been pulled from swamped cars,
    flooded homes and threatened hospitals across the southern part of the state.
    The already soaked region is expected to get more rain from a storm system
    stretching from the Gulf Coast to the Ohio Valley.’

    Read more: President Barack Obama declared Louisiana a disaster after floods killed five


    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/pres...e-killed-five/

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    Some recent articles from the headline page...I'm not sure if I have posted
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    Scientist Predicts ‘Little Ice Age,’ Gets Icy Reception From Colleagues

    By David on 12 August 2016 GMT



    ‘Professor Valentina Zharkova at Northumbria University is being attacked by
    climate change proponents for publishing research suggesting there could be
    a 35-year period of low solar activity that could usher in an “ice age.”

    Zharkova and her team of researchers released a study on sunspot modeling,
    finding that solar activity could fall to levels not seen since the so-called “Little
    Ice Age” of the 1600s. Zharkova’s conclusions may have huge implications for
    global temperature modeling, but her analysis is not accepted by some climate
    scientists.’

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    'Expert' Says Rising Rapes In Sweden Due To Global Warming Not
    Soaring Muslim Immigration

    By David on 14 August 2016 GMT Planetary change



    ‘Psychotherapist and “expert on sexual criminals,” Börje Svensson,
    has finally figured out the mystery behind rising sexual assaults in
    Sweden. Want to guess where he places the blame? Well, if you
    guessed ManBearPig then you’re absolutely right! And we thought
    it might have something to do with the massive spike in refugees
    flooding into Sweden from countries that don’t really share the same
    “respect” for women as the Western world.’

    Read more: ‘Expert’ Says Rising Rapes In Sweden Due To Global
    Warming Not Soaring Muslim Immigration

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-0...im-immigration

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    New Twist In Global Warming Madness: Olympic Records Won't Come Easy

    By David on 10 August 2016 GMT



    ‘Bloomberg writer Jessica Shankleman is willing to push global warming silliness
    up another notch with “politically correct” nonsense that Olympic Records Won’t
    Come Easy in Rio Because of Climate Change.

    Athletes at the Olympic Games may struggle to break world records as they compete
    with Brazil’s rising temperatures caused by climate change.’

    Read more: New Twist In Global Warming Madness: Olympic Records Won’t Come Easy

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-0...wont-come-easy

    David Icke – The Climate Change Scam, What its REALLY all about



    Published on 4 Dec 2015
    David Icke talks about The Climate Change Scam, What its really all about? The David Icke Videocast

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    How the World was Deceived about Global Warming and Climate Change

    By David on 8 August 2016 GMT


    http://davidstockmanscontracorner.co...limate-change/


    David Icke - Climate Change Isn't What You Think It Is

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1xMuE9brkc

    Published on 5 Jul 2016
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