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    This may well of already been posted earlier ?

    For ref : I was just listening to a ion & Bob podcast about the
    Mississippi River below , the conversation develops into JFK
    and Bob who was an UK & US intelligence officer for decades
    and was involved in the media clear up after the assassination
    says Mae Brussell thought the report by William Torbitt is
    the closest.

    Mississippi River | Riparian Rights | The Treaty of 1783 | TVA



    Payday
    5 November 2016
    https://ionandbob.blogspot.co.uk/

    The Treaty of Paris of 1783 ended the war of independence and granted
    the thirteen colonies political freedom.

    Treaty of Paris 1783
    ARTICLE 8
    The navigation of the river Mississippi, from its source to the ocean, shall
    forever remain free and open to the subjects of Great Britain and the citizens
    of the United States.

    Nomenclature of an Assassination Cabal by William Torbitt

    https://ionandbob.blogspot.co.uk/200...-cabal-by.html

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    Nomenclature of an Assassination Cabal by William Torbitt

    Quote The killing of President Kennedy was planned and supervised by Division Five
    of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, a relatively small department within the FBI
    whose usual duties are espionage and counter-espionage activities.

    Actually, Division Five acted dually with the Defense Intelligence Agency which was acting
    on behalf of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in the Pentagon. Directly under the two-pronged
    leadership of Division Five and the DIA was the Control Group, their highly secret policy
    agency - the Defense Industrial Security Command.
    https://ionandbob.blogspot.co.uk/200...-cabal-by.html

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    This is now an historical archive......I was not planning on listening to these ...lol

    Mae Brussell -Munich,Germany connections to JFK assassination- (8-18-71)



    Originally broadcast August 18,1971.

    – Mae talks about the positive response the show is receiving, her background, and how
    the Government is dismissing assassination researchers.

    – Mae takes on Jack Anderson’s article, “Assassination Balderdash” (1971-07-21), which
    dismissed criticism by Don Riley of the Warren Report. She challenges him to meet with
    her and disprove her research into the JFK assassination.

    – Mae then gives a brief outline of who she thinks played a role in the JFK conspiracy and
    names the following individuals and groups involved and how they connect to one another:
    J. Edgar Hoover, Allen Dulles, Richard Helms, the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), Texas
    Oilmen, Lee and Marina Oswald, General Edwin Walker, Bernard Weissman, and the “Munich Gang.”

    – Mae breaks apart the “Munich Gang” and relates how Bernard Weissman, who put out the
    famous “Welcome Mister Kennedy to Dallas” newspaper ad on Nov. 22, 1963, along with Larry
    Schmidt, William Burly and others all served together as Military Counter-Intelligence Analysts
    in Munich, Germany, in 1962. Mae shows how Weissman committed perjury during the Warren
    Commission hearings in regards to his associations to a Ken Glazebrook.

    – Mae talks about the “Wanted For Treason” handbill that was circulated all over Dallas a few
    days before the assassination of JFK. How the Johnson Printing Co. who printed the handbill
    connected to General Edwin Walker. How an employee of General Walker, Howard Duff, saw
    Jack Ruby at Walker’s home on two occasions, but never testified to the Warren Commission.

    – Speaking of testimony, Mae talks about how commission members Gerald Ford and Earl Warren
    left the room when Weissman testified about a plot to overthrow the US Government by 1969.
    How the person who printed the “Wanted for Treason” handbill who was partners with General
    Walker was the only person to use the 5th Amendment in their Warren Commission testimony.

    -There is a mention of researcher Joachim Joesten.

    – Mae talks about an interview on the BBC program 24 Hours with L. Fletcher Prouty on the topic
    of the Pentagon Papers, where Prouty suggested that the CIA was involved in the JFK assassination.

    – Mae gives a quick background on John N. Mitchell, his links to Richard Nixon, and reads from
    “Forgive My Grief Vol. 3″ regarding Nixon being in Dallas around the time of JFK’s assassination.

    Dialogue: Assassination #8 (1971-08-18) Show Notes...
    https://fileandclaw322.wordpress.com/...

    http://www.maebrussell.com/

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    Mae Brussell: Pentagon's destruction of JFK Assassination Evidence (12-11-1977)



    Originally broadcast December 11, 1977.
    Murder of Donald Donaldson, J.F. Kennedy Witness. Six FBI Agents killed.
    Pentagon destruction of J.F. Kennedy Assassination.

    ==============================================
    ==============================================

    Mae Brussell -Nazi Connections to JFK Assassination- November 22, 1981


    Broadcast 11-22-1981.
    18th ANNIVERSARY OF JFK ASSASSINATION. OTTO ALBRECHT ALFRED von
    BOLSCHWING: MOST IMPORTANT NAZI in USA. Adolf Eichmann's advisor,
    superior, from Hitler's Gestapo with Himmler, to OSS to CIA. The Gehlen
    man behind Nixon, Reagan, assassination teams.

    =============================================
    =============================================

    Mae Brussell -22nd Anniversary of JFK ASSASSINATION- (11-18-85)



    Originally broadcast November 18, 1985.

    TWENTY-TWO YEARS SINCE ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT J. F. KENNEDY.
    NASA - NAZIS, involvment. Werner Von Braun, Walter Dohrnberger. 22 years
    later. STAR WARS TOP BILLING OF SUMMIT. Noam Chomsky, WILLIAM YANDELL
    ELIOT, VIETNAM, leaves out Kissinger. WILLIAM BUCKLEY, GEORGE ROCKWELL,
    JOHN BIRCH ASSASSINATION TEAM. National Review anniversary,
    GERMAN NAZI CONNECTIONS.

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    Anything from Mae Brussell is worth your time.
    The only place a perfect right angle ever CAN be, is the mind.

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    Quote Posted by Spellbound (here)
    wow! Thanks for posting Spellbound

    some important info in there which I had either forgotten or didn't know.
    And very happy that Kay Griggs was in the documentary.
    But I can't agree that all terrorism acts are all manufactured/fake.

    Do watch it, it's only 3 hours and 24 minutes long but it's better than any episodes of the Kardashians.
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    Quote Posted by Curious77 (here)
    [...] Carlos Marcello [...]
    Carlos Marcello, the Man Behind the JFK Assassination:


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    I think Bobby knew immediately afterwards that some of this was on him for how he went after Marcello.

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    Cidersomerset -- Thank you so much for the recap as I'm a huge fan of MaeBrussel.
    Will be back soon to read your post and all new posts.

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    CIA-RDP84-00780R000300040009-8 Charles Cabell Consultation Fee July 1 1963.pdfCIA-RDP80R01580R001603330034-1Cabell Joins war council of General June 63.pdfCIA-RDP80B01676R001900160014-2 Cabelll Says NOPE to WH.pdfI wanted to bump this amazing thread with excellent discussion with a link I came across and did not find other places on the forum.

    https://whowhatwhy.org/2017/08/02/da...ion-cia-asset/


    This further cements what others have known about the players involved.

    I also have PDF of payments to Charles Cabell from the CIA for "services" as a "consultant" after he was "fired".
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    Thought I'd add this here: on the 'backyard photos', and the curious matter of Oswald's chin..

    Like numerous others I have always thought the so called 'backyard photos' as deeply suspicious. These are the famous three photos that depict allegedly Lee Harvey Oswald sporting his Mannlicher-Carcano rifle and a bundle of pro-communist literature, probably taken some time in the summer of 1963. The foremost, below, is perhaps the most iconic, and widely-seen image of the 20th century. It was published on the front of Time Life magazine in 1964, sealing his fate before the nation as the "official lone assassin".



    But back in Dallas on November 22nd 1963, Oswald was presented with this 'evidence' by Will Fritz, Dallas Police dept. Chief of Homicide, during his interrogation. Oswald dismissed it, saying, "I never saw that picture. It is my face, but my face has been super-imposed -- the rest of the picture is not me at all. I've done a lot of photographic work, and that picture was made by someone else..."

    The pictures were investigated first by the Warren Commission, and again more than a decade later during the House Select Committee on Assassinations hearings, but concerns were almost entirely shown to be unfounded (or perhaps the whole thing was just swept under the rug!). The line of enquiry fizzled out, probably until Oliver Stone brought it back into the public consciousness with his 1991 film 'JFK', which contained scenes of the photos being staged and put together by spooks. It has since become yet another layer of inveiglement to shroud the case.

    So was it, as Oswald claimed, a hoax - an insidiously engineered set up to further implicate him?

    As you may know, many researchers are of the opinion that it is not Oswald posing in the pictures, and that his face was cut and pasted onto someone else's body. This could be proven, they say, by a most glaring inconsistency - Oswald's chin. This has become the cornerstone of the 'backyard photos' conspiracy theory.

    The controversy surrounds the anomaly of his 'pointed chin' - which he appears to have in known historical images, as well as those taken of him after his arrest at the Texas Theatre, and the 'square chin' - which he appears to have in these backyard photos. Two starkly different chins would then certainly indicate two different individuals. It would prove the backyard photos Oswald was not the real Oswald. A clear set up.

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    Oswald does have a fairly pointed chin in many images - most notably the mugshot, which is the one most often held up to compare against the square-chinned Oswald in the backyard photos. It's true, one chin does not much resemble the other. Yet if you look carefully at other, less famous footage taken of Oswald after his arrest, you can see that his pointed chin actually is quite square.

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    Is the difference between pointed and square chin caused by lighting conditions? Is it musculature, which changes the shape of the chin with certain facial expressions?

    I'm not sure, just asking the question. Because with this evidence, the pointed-chin argument loses some ground for me. Now, I'm not saying at all that the yard photos must therefore be authentically Oswald... After all, there are still many other anomalies in the photos, namely the shadows, the grain depth, the 'chopped-off' fingers on his right hand, his apparently missing left forearm, visual inconsistencies between this rifle and the rifle recovered from the Texas School Book Depository, issues with the camera itself etc - not to mention the highly suspicious stories of how the pictures surfaced (one as late as 1976), and the missing negatives, and plenty more as evidenced by photogrammetric analysis. The list goes on and on...

    It could be possible that all this really means is that Oswald's whole face, chin and all, was super-imposed onto another body - not just eyes, nose, and mouth. But with regards 'chin evidence' alone trying to make the case, for me it doesn't hold all that much water.

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    Soviets thought JFK assassination was a COUP and not a lone gunman from DAY1



    Quote 2,800 records relating to the assassination of John F. Kennedy were released by the National Archives yesterday, but more have been held back and will be reviewed during a 180-day period.

    Wikileaks offering $100,000 to anyone who releases the rest of the JFK files.
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    A good summary of the details relating Bush to the JFK event that's around in several places and formats for several years. Jane Grey author, I believe.

    http://themillenniumreport.com/2017/...g-attention-5/

    JFK Jr. Told The World Who Murdered His Father – But Nobody Was Paying Attention - george h w bush etc

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    Thought this to be a good addition HOPE NOT A REPEAT:

    JFK Release: Second Shooter, UK Tipoff, CIA Media Infiltration, and LBJ Fingered
    In Coup

    by ZeroPointNow
    Oct 27, 2017 4:21 PM




    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-1...nd-shooter-uk-
    tipoff-cia-media-infiltration-and-lbj-fingere


    Content originally published at iBankCoin.com

    While yesterday’s pre-planned release of JFK files was significantly neutered at
    the request of the CIA and FBI, enraging Lou Dobbs among others, the 2800+ files
    which were released have been poured over extensively, revealing evidence of a
    second shooter, a massive CIA infiltration of the MSM, a tipoff phone call
    received 25 minutes before the assassination, and Soviet intelligence indicating
    the assassination was a coup involving LBJ among other things.

    Summary of findings so far:

    Two shooters, one escaped:

    https://www.archives.gov/files/resea...d-32144493.pdf [p. 3]

    J. Edgar Hoover's comments suggest Oswald wasn't a shooter:

    The evening of the assassination, J. Edgar Hoover told Lyndon Johnson’s aide,
    Walter Jenkins, “The thing I am concerned about, and so is Mr. Katsenbach, is
    having something issued so we can convince the public that Oswald is the real
    assassin.”

    https://www.archives.gov/files/resea...d-32263509.pdf [p. 3]

    Soviet belief in a well orchestrated coup:

    “According to our source, officials of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union
    believed there was some well-organized conspiracy on the part of the
    “ultraright” in the United States to effect a “coup.” They seemed convinced that
    the assassination was not the deed of one man, but that it arose out of a
    carefully planned campaign in which several people played a part.”

    https://www.archives.gov/files/resea...d-32204484.pdf [p. 3]

    https://twitter.com/williamcraddick/...11122926051328

    The KGB allegedly had evidence LBJ was behind the coup:

    According to a CIA source, “it was indicated that “now” the KGB was in
    possession of data purporting to indicate President Johnson was responsible for
    the assassination of the late President John F. Kennedy.

    https://www.archives.gov/files/resea...d-32204484.pdf [p. 5]

    Jack Ruby claimed it was LBJ as well:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv3o9vx3VNM

    A UK Journalist was tipped off 25 minutes before the assassination

    A memo written to the director of the FBI from the deputy director of the CIA
    notes that a UK journalist employed by Cambridge News received an anonymous
    phone call 25 minutes before the JFK assassination telling him to call the US
    Embassy for “some big news.”

    https://www.archives.gov/files/resea...d-32357111.pdf [p. 2,
    3]

    The CIA infiltrated the media and religious institutions

    In a February, 1976 note, the CIA’s Office of the Director issued a memo which
    states “Genuine concern has recently been expressed about CIA relations with
    newsmen and churchmen.” As a result, the agency instituted a new policy not to
    enter into paid arrangements with these institutions.

    https://www.archives.gov/files/resea...d-32403785.pdf [p. 3]

    https://www.archives.gov/files/resea...d-32403785.pdf [p. 3]

    Over 40 journalists ‘who doubled as undercover agents’ worked for the CIA

    https://www.archives.gov/files/resea...d-32403785.pdf [p. 17]

    We then discussed the matter somewhat at more length and I gave ball park
    figures of various categories of journalists with whom we had contact. I said
    that the total free lance stringers with whom we had varying degrees of
    association was in the area of 40.

    https://www.archives.gov/files/resea...d-32403785.pdf [p. 16]

    CIA-NBC connection

    https://www.archives.gov/files/resea...d-32279986.pdf [p. 2]

    Lee Harvey Oswald – agent of the U.S. government?

    Jewish involvement?

    The secret service interviewed hundreds of people deemed “threats to President
    Kennedy’s safety” from March – December, 1963. One of the interviewees was an
    anti-Castro Cuban national named Homer S. Echevarria, who – the day before the
    assassination – “allegedly approached informant to provide machine guns for
    Cuban rev.,” (revolution) and allegedly told the informant “We now have plenty
    of money — our new backers are Jews — as soon as ‘we’ or (they) take care of
    Kennedy…” The Secret Service note states Echevarria “expressed favorable
    attitude toward LBJ.”

    Before reaching any conclusions, note that this is the only claim of Jewish
    involvement in the assassination aside from Jack Ruby (Jacob Rubenstein), and
    could be misdirection or scapegoating by Echevarria.

    That said, The Sun reports that Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby met each other
    on a trip to Cuba “to cut sugar cane” weeks before the assassination.

    They were part of a group of 30 or 40 “hippie looking” people who were on their
    way to Cuba to cut sugar cane, airport manager George Faraldo told
    investigators.

    This bombshell will shed new light on the truth behind JFK’s assassination and
    whether Oswald was to blame for the former president’s murder.

    Ruby, whose real name is Jacob Rubenstein, shot dead Oswald, 24, two days after
    the presidential assassination in November 1963.

    But just weeks before, Oswald and nightclub owner Ruby were apparently both part
    of a large group of “mostly young” people heading to Cuba.

    Mr Faraldo told the FBI that Ruby and Oswald were dressed casually in a sport
    shirts and trousers.

    The airport manager added that Ruby “spent most of the time not mingling with
    the group but standing against the doorway that led from the waiting area to the
    rear plane boarding area.”

    At one point he saw Oswald approach Ruby and ask: “Have you heard anything from
    the Big Bird yet?”

    Of note, LBJ – apparently a former Klan member – reportedly had a huge penis,
    and Sesame Street wasn’t on the air until 1969 – well after Kennedy’s
    death.Download the JFK files here:

    https://www.archives.gov/files/resea...es/zip/jfk.zip

    https://www.archives.gov/files/resea...es/zip/jfk.z01

    https://www.archives.gov/files/resea...es/zip/jfk.z02

    https://www.archives.gov/files/resea...es/zip/jfk.z03

    https://www.archives.gov/files/resea...es/zip/jfk.z04

    https://www.archives.gov/files/resea...es/zip/jfk.z05

    https://www.archives.gov/files/resea...es/zip/jfk.z06

    https://www.archives.gov/files/resea...es/zip/jfk.z07

    https://www.archives.gov/files/resea...es/zip/jfk.z08

    https://www.archives.gov/files/resea...es/zip/jfk.z09

    https://www.archives.gov/files/resea...es/zip/jfk.z10
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    ritual murder , oliver stone had it symbolically right.
    the first catholic president murdered at the date pope clemens installed the papal bull to take captive of J de moley and claim all the posessions of the freemasons.
    do you remember Jacqueline Lee Bouvier fleeing the car ???
    all she did was grabbing the piece of skull ripped off by the shot of the front driver .
    but anyhow ... great share of the vid.
    have you read oswalds lovers book ? jusyth vary baker

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    Great thread! I'm still of the mind that MJ-12 was one of the prime movers in this tragedy. JFK's murder was my generation's first wake-up call. For you younger people, perhaps it's 09/11/2001. For my parents, it was Pearl Harbor, 12/07/1941. Regardless, in each instance, the world changed, and not for the better. I cringe, when pondering "what's next?" It most likely will be worse, far, far, worse...

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    The author of "Dr. Mary's Monkey", Ed Haslaam was on WWL radio on Friday. He will be in New Orleans on the night of October 18th at a bar called Le Bon Temp Roulet. That date is Oswald's birthday and the bar was somewhere Oswald was known to be upon occasion. I have been there too many times to count.

    Remember, Oswald was born in New Orleans.

    The interviewer said every time he interviewed Haslaam, it was THE most popular show he had ever hosted.

    On the 19th Haslaam will be at Barnes and Nobles on Veterans in Metairie, along with Judith Vary Baker, for anyone who wished to meet and talk to them.
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    Quote Posted by Valerie Villars (here)
    The author of "Dr. Mary's Monkey", Ed Haslaam was on WWL radio on Friday. He will be in New Orleans on the night of October 18th at a bar called Le Bon Temp Roulet. That date is Oswald's birthday and the bar was somewhere Oswald was known to be upon occasion. I have been there too many times to count.

    Remember, Oswald was born in New Orleans.

    The interviewer said every time he interviewed Haslaam, it was THE most popular show he had ever hosted.

    On the 19th Haslaam will be at Barnes and Nobles on Veterans in Metairie, along with Judith Vary Baker, for anyone who wished to meet and talk to them.
    Hi Val... have you read the book? Or going to see him? (I'm assuming this bar it's in your neck of the woods)

    I read Haslaam's book a couple years ago. A real Hollywood-like thriller, except it's nonfiction!

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