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    Default 9/11 Suspects: Rudy Giuliani

    This thread is more about the geo - political events leading up , during and after 9/11


    'Coincidence theories' there sure seems a lot of drills and exercises around these
    events . Presumably for control and command purposes to monitor the proceedings.
    We have covered 9/11 many times from all sorts of angles but James report is
    very interesting as usual......NORAD drills on 9/11 Biological warfare drills scheduled
    for 9/12 in NY very convenient for a switch in command and control from building
    seven rigged for demolition to a trip to the docks for a possible quick get away if
    things really got out of control especially if exotic or a mini nuke was involved ?

    Rudy Giuliani came out of 9/11 a mainstream hero destined for higher office
    possibly for being complicit on 9/11 ? luckily scuppered in 2007/8. Unfortunately if
    Trump does become President as a fellow New Yorker and supporter he will
    probably get an appointment in another Republican administration.

    Trump Said he would find out who did 9/11 and it would be ironic if he put
    Giuliani in charge for another white wash......

    Trump Vows Full Investigation Of 9/11 If He Becomes President
    Posted on February 15, 2016 by Sean Adl-Tabatabai in News, US

    http://yournewswire.com/trump-vows-f...mes-president/

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    9/11 Suspects: Rudy Giuliani



    Published on 5 Sep 2016

    TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES: https://www.corbettreport.com/?p=19452

    Mayor Giuliani oversaw the illegal destruction of the 9/11 crime scene and is criminally
    liable for the deaths of hundreds of emergency workers for not passing on prior
    warnings about the collapses of the Twin Towers.

    It is no wonder, then, that the Fire Department of New York so passionately detest
    Giuliani for his actions in disgracing their fallen brothers and covering up the 9/11 crime.

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    9/11: Rudy Giuliani Interview with Peter Jennings (ABC)



    1pm 9/11/01 Eastern Time interview of Rudy Giuliani, explaining how he was
    warned in advance of the collapse of the South Tower. How and where did he get
    this warning?

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    Guiliani’s testimony about planned drill on Sept. 12, 2001

    Posted on January 3, 2011 by Alan

    NATIONAL COMMISSION ON TERRORIST ATTACKS UPON THE UNITED STATES
    Eleventh Public Hearing
    Wednesday, May 19, 2004
    Testimony by: RUDOLPH W. GIULIANI, FORMER MAYOR, CITY OF NEW YORK (pdf)


    “And the reason Pier 92 was selected as the command center was because on the
    next day, on September 12th, Pier 92 was going to have a drill. It had hundreds of
    people here, from FEMA, from the federal government, from the state, from the
    State Emergency Management Office, and they were getting ready for a drill for
    biochemical attack. So that was going to be the place they were going to have the
    drill. The equipment was already there so we were able to establish a command
    center there within three days that was two-and-a-half to three times bigger than
    the command center that we had lost at 7 World Trade Center. And it was from
    there that the rest of the search and rescue effort was completed.

    http://canadianliberty.com/?p=3946

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    Aprox 5 mins in Barry Jennings says the first report he heard was that a Cessna
    plane had flown into the world trade centre. This reminded me I was driving
    down the M5 from Bridgwater to Barnstable listening to BBC five live radio and
    a news flash came on saying that reports of a light plane being accidently flown
    into one of the world trade centres, and I remember thinking that's odd then
    the second tower being hit and then it was obvious it was an attack......



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    Remember Larry and Jane and many other odd 'coincidences' discovered since....

    Why would you say " pull it " if you meant " pull everyone out " not buying that one.



    Jane Stanley was just relaying information.....But something smells as we all suspect.



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    9/11 - The Whole Truth In 5 Minutes - James Corbett


    Published on 15 Sep 2013
    James Corbett of http://www.corbettreport.com presents this 5 minute parody of
    the official conspiracy theory of 9/11. Find out more about the truth of 9/11 at
    http://www.GlobalResearch.ca and CorbettReport.com. Related topics 9/11
    conspiracy theories September 11 attacks
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    ' Coincidence Theories "....

    Pier 92 a very convenient place to be if things got out of control if exotic or mini
    nuke was used ? with easy access by boat,and yet another drill to cover up
    preparation and easy to switch for 9/11 use.





    New York City’s Emergency Operations Center (EOC) set up at Pier 92 on
    the Hudson River following the 9/11 attacks.

    7:00 a.m. -9:03 a.m. September 11, 2001: Preparations Continue at New
    York Pier for September 12 Bioterrorism Exercise

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    New York City’s Emergency Operations Center (EOC) set up at Pier 92 the
    Hudson River following the 9/11 attacks. [Source: ArcNews] At Pier 92 on
    the Hudson River, preparations are underway for a training exercise due
    to take place there the following day. The exercise, called Tripod, which
    had been scheduled months earlier, is intended to test how well New York’s
    Office of Emergency Management (OEM) can administer treatment in
    response to a biological-terrorism attack (see September 12, 2001).
    [New York Magazine,

    10/15/2001; Giuliani, 2002, pp. 355] Pier 92, located just over four miles
    north-northwest of the World Trade Center, has been set up as a model
    distribution station where the simulated victims will be treated. [Jenkins
    and Edwards-Winslow, 9/2003, pp. 15 and 20] Ken Longert, the owner of a
    theatrical lighting business, arrives at the pier at 7:00 a.m. to help get the
    place ready for the exercise. He will later recall, “Two or three hundred cadets
    [presumably with the New York police and fire departments] were there,
    learning the proper procedures in case some kind of disaster hit New York.”
    Longert will recall that, seconds after the second WTC tower is hit at 9:03,
    “all the people from OEM disappeared” from the pier. [DiMarco, 2007, pp.
    457-458] After OEM’s original command center is destroyed when WTC 7—
    where it is located—collapses (see (5:20 p.m.) September 11, 2001), Pier
    92 will be selected as the location for the substitute command center. [9/11
    Commission, 5/19/2004] Members of OEM staff have also arrived early this
    morning at the OEM offices in WTC 7 to prepare for the exercise (see 8:48 a.m.
    September 11, 2001). [Jenkins and Edwards-Winslow, 9/2003, pp. 15]
    Entity Tags: Tripod, Office of Emergency Management, Ken Longert

    Timeline Tags: 9/11 Timeline
    Category Tags: All Day of 9/11 Events, Training Exercises

    http://www.historycommons.org/timeli...e_911_timeline

    Rebuilding an Emergency Operations Center for NYC following 9/11



    Fig. 1. Photos of Pier 92 EOC
    http://www.dssresources.com/subscrib...eam/index.html
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    1 DAY BEFORE 911 WTC Attacks, An Amazing Thing Happened



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    9/11: More Lies & Disturbing 'Coincidences'



    Published on 6 Nov 2013

    The following is a short excerpt from an excellent documentary entitled
    "Loose Change: Final Cut", the full film has been listed below. I do not
    take any credit for any of the footage filmed here. This clip has simply
    been reuploaded with the intention of helping to further spread awareness.

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    James Corbett: When False Flags Don't Fly



    Uploaded on 22 Apr 2010
    Exquisitely spoken.
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    Who Benefited From 9/11?

    The Neo - cons ,The PNAC group , Lucky Larry Silverstein and many others

    Who did not benefit from 9/11 The Victims , Bin Laden , Saddam , The Taliban .
    Iraq , Afghanistan , Libya and millions of middle east civilians.....





    Published on 22 Sep 2012


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U14cO... - The New American Century

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgYNP... - "The New Pearl Harbor -
    The Best Documentary - Full Movie" [a very detailed documentary]

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U14cO... - "The New American Century"
    [a very detailed documentary of the birth of the Project for the New American
    Century (PNAC) and the effect the group has had in molding the world we live in today].

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    General Wesley Clark: Wars Were Planned - Seven Countries In Five Years

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    9/11: Follow the Money find the criminals




    Uploaded on 17 Jan 2011

    July2001! - U.S. plans to invade Afghanistan for an attack on Osama bin
    Laden and the Taliban by October 2001.
    a) http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia...
    b) http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/...

    Sep 4, 2001 - The White House approves plans to invade Afghanistan.
    http://www.usatoday.com/news/washingt...

    Sep 5, 2001 - U.S. pulls the plug on Muslim websites.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/...
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/na...

    Sep10, 2001 - The White House's battle plan to invade Afghanistan and
    topple the Taliban and Osama bin Laden awaits President Bush's approval.
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4585010/

    Kissinger & Carlyle Group Connections to yet more financial interests:
    http://911review.com/articles/ryan/ca...

    Rumsfeld Trillions:
    1. September 10, 2001 - Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld announces
    that the Pentagon has lost track of $2.3 TRILLION DOLLARS of military
    spending. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/0... http://www.defenselink.mil/speeches/2...
    (DOD) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU4GdH...
    (Live footage of the speech)

    Insider Trading ("Buzzy" Krongard) CIA

    1. September 6, 2001 - Large number of "put" options are placed on
    United Airlines stock betting that the stock price would fall.
    a) http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article...
    b) http://tinyurl.com/ygxsls8 (Chicago Tribune)

    2. September 6, 2001 - Some of the put options placed on United Airlines stock were
    purchased through the investment banking firm of Deutsche Banc Alex. Brown in which
    the current Executive Director of the CIA, A.B. "Buzzy" Krongard, used to be the company's
    CEO up until 1998.
    http://web.archive.org/web/2004101118... (CIA.gov took this down in 2005, Why?)
    3. January 9, 2005 - Let bin Laden stay free, says ex-No. 3 CIA man A.B. "Buzzy" Krongard.
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news...
    4. All the proof you need. (Insider Trading)
    http://tvnewslies.org/html/9_11_-_all...

    Ex. CIA-director, former President, and President Bush's Dad, George H.W. Bush, meets with
    one of Osama Bin Laden's brothers at a Carlyle business conference in Washington D.C.
    a) http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol...
    b) http://www.guardian.co.uk/theobserver...
    c) http://www.economist.com/books/displa...

    9/11 - Sen. Bob Graham (D-FL) and Rep. Porter Goss (R-FL) -- the chairmen of the Senate and
    House Intelligence Committees -- along with Sen. John Kyl (R-AZ) and some other members of
    the House Intelligence Committee are in a meeting at the Capital building with the director of
    Pakistani intelligence (ISI), Lt. Gen. Mahmud Ahmad, who authorized a $100,000 wire transfer
    to alleged lead 9/11 hijacker, Mohamed Atta.
    http://www.salon.com/politics/feature...

    Any Broken Links use: http://www.Archive.org

    Major Federal Reserve motivations for 9/11:
    Iraq nets handsome profit by dumping Dollar for Euro:
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/20...

    U.N. to let Iraq sell oil for euros:
    http://archives.cnn.com/2000/WORLD/me...

    http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/c...

    http://www.energybulletin.net/node/7707

    Cheney, Energy, and Iraq Invasion (Supreme Court):
    http://articles.sfgate.com/2004-03-21...

    Books:
    "Petrodollar Warfare" - William Clark
    "The Case Against the Fed" - Murray Rothbard
    "The best way to rob a bank is to own one" - William Black
    "Syndrome of Control" - Lindsay Williams
    "The Creature from Jekyll Island" - G. Edward Griffin
    "Tragedy and Hope" - Carol Quigley
    "Crossing the Rubicon: The Decline of American Empire at the end of the Age of Oil" - Michael C. Ruppert
    "The Prize: The Epic Quest for Oil, Money, and Power" - Daniel Yergin

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    9/11 Trillions: Follow The Money ...Update vid.




    Published on 11 Sep 2015
    TRANSCRIPT, SOURCES AND MP3: https://www.corbettreport.com/?p=16167

    Forget for one moment everything you've been told about September 11, 2001.
    9/11 was a crime. And as with any crime, there is one overriding imperative that
    detectives must follow to identify the perpetrators: follow the money. This is an
    investigation of the 9/11 money trail.
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    David Icke - 911 was an inside job



    In this seven-hour presentation from May 2008 to 2,500 people at the Brixton
    Academy in London, David addresses all these questions and connects the dots
    between them to reveal a picture of life on earth that is truly beyond the cutting edge.

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    South Tower Smoking Guns (Follow-up)



    Uploaded on 12 Feb 2010
    After finding the projectile that turns a sharp corner while trailing white smoke I
    looked for it in other videos and found it in several. The clearest is from a camera
    with a very similar perspective to the first, but in this video the trail can be followed
    to the bottom of the collapse. Here I explore the significance of this find.


    North Tower Exploding by David Chandler

    This is from same U'tube link....



    Uploaded on 3 Nov 2010

    Physics teacher David Chandler's brilliant exploration of the North Tower Exploding WTC 1.

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    I like at the start that he says there were probably a mix of ways they brought
    down the buildings....

    David Chandler - How did they deploy 100s of tons of Nanothermite?



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    Excerpt from David Chandler's Lecture on 9/11 at Portland Community College.
    Saturday 2/21/2015

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    Professor David Chandler Speaks at Portland Community College, Sylvania Campus



    Published on 5 Mar 2015

    David Chandler is on the board of directors of Scientists for 9/11 Truth and the
    International Center for 9/11 Studies. Chandler is well known internationally for
    making the careful measurements of the motions of the buildings that forced the
    National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), to change their story in
    their final report to admit that Building 7 came straight down through its own
    structure with sudden onset at absolute free fall for over 100 feet. This is clear
    evidence of demolition.
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    What bugs me is hologram planes or real planes is open for debate, one for sure is very powrful explosives were placed all over three buildings in that metroplex, somebody was paid off to look the other way , i mean that was alot of prep to bring down buildings that large without creating carnage to the other buildings, the towers fell mostly straight down ...
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    Of course the other reasons listed above are valid, let's stop overlooking the opium interests.

    9/11 Justified Bush-Russell-Bin Laden Opium interests (laundered through endless front -legitimate- and shell companies) being re-allocated from the Taliban who actually sought to set the Opium price for international trade (commonly thought they only sought to outlaw it- at the top, they wanted control over its export).

    Within five years after 9/11 Afghanistan Opium accounted for about 95% of the world market. When Taliban was demanding the acceptance of their "pay our price or else" embargo, prior to 9/11, Afghan opium was somewhere around 5% of world market.

    Look up the Russell Trading Company and its ties to the Bush family, how their fortunes were made in the Opium trade (through Indo China if memory serves) in the 1800s. Bush Sr.'s nickname "Poppy" is owing to the family's longstanding position at the head of the worldwide Opium trade.

    Consider the (once) often reported justification for CIA/DoD drug trafficking. -So that "the weaker among man will weed themselves out (by becoming addicts)", which is a secondary application of the Nazi eugenic ideal.

    Look at when and how the CIA started, and that Bush Sr. was once head of the agency; look at older Bush bloodline holders- from Russell Trading to Skull and Bones to Bavaria.

    This was a but a stage in a much larger protracted and global plan.

    My threads are not for those new to these lines of thinking - I take certain things as proven to connect them to what I've found at work behind the scenes at the very top.
    If interested I link my findings to more grounded info here:
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...WO-the-NEW-AGE
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    Quote Of course the other reasons listed above are valid, let's stop overlooking the opium interests.
    Excellent point and I was thinking about that and have mentioned
    it many times on mine and other threads ........



    This is from 2011 some interesting information about the Global drug trade created
    primary by the CIA after WW11.

    The EyeOpener - White Gold Heroin & the Destabilization of Afghanistan



    28 August 2011

    The Power(s) Behind Afghan Heroin & the Real Profiteers of the International Drug Trade

    The idea that the drug trade in Afghanistan is enabled and protected by western interests
    for their own benefit is by no means a new or controversial idea. After all, we are talking
    about the third most lucrative commodity in the world behind oil and the arms trade.
    However, the media coverage of this issue involving hundreds of billions of dollars is
    another story. James Corbett brings to you questions and points not dared to be raised
    by the media and pseudo alternatives alike.

    This is our EyeOpener Video Report by James Corbett on Afghanistan's White Gold for
    boilingfrogspost.com

    http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2011/...
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    One of the consequences or agenda ? of the Afghan war was the resurrection of the
    opium trade that was stamped out briefly by the Taliban regime.When the US/UK
    led NATO forces invaded they were aided in the fight against the Taliban by the
    northern Warlords who were part of the international Opium trade run by CIA
    affiliates and others. The Taliban were prepared to hand over Bin Laden if the
    US could give them proof he organised the 9/11 attacks. Of course they could
    not and they had to invade in the wake of the hysteria of the 'False flag' attack.
    Looking back at it now the only thing the invasion has achieved apart from
    thousands of deaths is a record Opium crop. There,s something very suspicious
    about this ' mainstream' press !!

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    The Spoils of War: Afghanistan’s Multibillion Dollar Heroin Trade

    Washington's Hidden Agenda: Restore the Drug Trade
    By Prof Michel Chossudovsky....Global Research, May 25, 2015



    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-spo...eroin-trade/91

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    The Worst Narco-State in History? After 13-Year War, Afghanistan’s Opium Trade Floods the Globe


    Published on 29 Dec 2014


    http://democracynow.org - In the 13 years since the United States invaded Afghanistan
    in 2001, the country's opium production has doubled, now accounting for about 90
    percent of the world's supply. To learn more, we are joined by Matthieu Aikins, a Kabul-
    based journalist whose latest report for Rolling Stone magazine explores Afghanistan's
    heroin boom. "What has happened in Afghanistan over the last 13 years has been the
    flourishing of a narco-state that is really without any parallel in history," Aikins
    says. "This is something that is extraordinary, that is catastrophic, that has grave
    danger for the future and yet there has been virtually no discussion of in recent years."

    Watch 13 years of Democracy Now! coverage of the U.S.-led war in Afghanistan in our online archive:
    http://www.democracynow.org/topics/af...


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    Afghan Opium Harvesting Protected by British Occupation Forces

    By David Icke on 24th August 2015 War and Terror



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    GLOBAL RESEARCH...........................

    Afghan Opium Harvesting Protected by British Occupation Forces

    Opium Harvesting, c.200 metres from Camp Bastion Airfield Perimeter

    By Anthony Heaford
    Global Research, August 23, 2015

    The photograph shows five men harvesting opium a couple of hundred metres
    from Camp Bastion perimeter defences, seen in the foreground.



    Not only was this illegal drug production being carried out in the shadow
    of ISAF’s Main Operating Base, it was being done under the protection of
    British soldiers. Her Majesty’s Armed Forces (Army and RAF) were protecting
    this man’s cash crop from illicit ‘taxation’ by the Afghan National Police or Army.

    The duplicity is in what the Ministry of Defence tell people we are doing, and
    what we are actually doing. As this photo was taken there was a World Service
    edition of ‘From Our Own Correspondent’ playing. The particular BBC correspondent,
    Quentin Sommerville, was ‘embedded’ with British soldiers in Helmand, who were
    assisting in the destruction of poppy fields. This must raise the question as to why
    poppy fields on the edge of Bastion’s airfield were protected whilst another farmer’s
    crop in a neighboring valley was destroyed?

    The duplicity is in what the Ministry of Defence tell people we are doing, and what
    we are actually doing. As this photo was taken there was a World Service edition
    of ‘From Our Own Correspondent’ playing. The particular BBC correspondent,
    Quentin Sommerville, was ‘embedded’ with British soldiers in Helmand, who were
    assisting in the destruction of poppy fields. This must raise the question as to why
    poppy fields on the edge of Bastion’s airfield were protected whilst another
    farmer’s crop in a neighboring valley was destroyed?



    The land in the once barren valley was now watered by the effluent of the 30,000
    people living in Camp Bastion, creating a mini property boom for the owner of the
    land, a Mohammad Daoud. The valley bordering Camp Bastion’s airfield had become
    a busy agricultural area, with parcels of land rented out to tenant farmers, migrant
    farm laborers camping a hundred metres from the defences, plus all the
    traffic. Whether this is the same Mohammad Daoud as former Governor of Helmand
    Province Mohammad Daoud is yet to be confirmed. If confirmed, the irony of former
    Governor Daoud having previously championed British poppy eradication efforts would
    illustrate our corruption accurately.

    To quote former Governor Daoud:


    Unless the international community includes poppy eradication and fighting drugs in
    their list of ways to fight terrorism, they will not succeed in this fight because it
    (the drug trade) is the fuel in the machine of terrorism.

    Our incompetence is best ‘illustrated’ by the deaths of two US Marines, Sergeant
    Bradley Atwell and Lieutenant Colonel Christopher Raible, and the destruction of £200+
    million worth of equipment, in the Taliban’s audacious airfield raid of 2012. The
    attackers of 14th September launched the raid from this same valley, where despite it’s
    proximity to £££Billions of aircraft across the airfield, the Command appeared to assess
    the risk there as minimal to non existent. This ‘lax’ attitude (criminal negligence in my
    eyes) reportedly extended to not providing any night vision equipment to soldiers
    guarding the airfield on a moonless Afghan night. To describe this as simple
    ‘incompetence’ is being very generous indeed to those responsible.

    Two men are dead because the British Army and Royal Air Force failed to protect a
    stationary target – an airfield. I can only apologize for my part in that.

    Author: Anthony C Heaford, Craftsman / Vehicle Mechanic in British Territorial Army
    2009 to 2013, No.30088729. Six month tour of Afghanistan, April to October 2012.
    Based in Camp Bastion.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/afghan-...forces/5470988

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    Afghan Opium Trade CIA Payrolled and Protected by Troops


    Uploaded on 29 Oct 2009
    Latest news articles and reviews of CIA activity in the Afghan Opium Trade and how
    the troops are little more than caretakers of Opium fields in order for the CIA
    bankrolled operations to continue.

    Soldier Admits To Helping Grow Opium In Afghanistan

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfBQ_vi0xdA

    Published on 23 Oct 2014

    Infowars Reporter Joe Biggs Breaks down Why the Opium Trade in Afghanistan has
    skyrocketed even though the US government has spent 7 Billion to halt opium growth.
    He also gives a first hand account of missions he was on In Afghanistan where he was
    told to guard opium fields. Our Government obviously isn't putting 7 billion dollars
    towards stopping the growth opium and is instead helping its growth. So many people
    every year get addicted to opiates and heroin. We know the CIA used Freeway Ricky
    Ross to bring Cocaine in to California, What makes you think that they wont do it again.

    AFGHAN OPIUM POPPY YIELD HITS ALL-TIME HIGH - http://www.infowars.com/afghan-opium-...

    Afghan Opium Harvesting Protected by British & American Occupation Forces //
    2014 the largest Opium crop in History.
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...588#post992588



    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...Afghan-Front--
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    Once upon a time the mujahideen were the good guys in the war against the evil
    Soviet Empire...In fighting continued and by 1996 the conservative Taliban had
    taken control , though various groups and war lords still existed and were used
    by the US led coalition in the invasion after 9/11.....
    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...hideen-taliban

    A young Bin Laden cut his teeth in the Afghan/soviet war....



    RAMBO 111



    President Reagan meets with mixed Afghan delegation circa 1983 ?



    Taliban delegation invited to the US Before 9/11


    Do-American-people-know-that-Taliban-delegation-was-invited-to-USA-and-treated-
    as-Honorable-guest-before-911-attack-Why
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    Re: Bin Laden: What Do We Really Know

    The US/UK NATO led invasion of Afghanistan is one of the biggest scams of the
    21st century to date , and it was only a year old when 9/11 happened the clammer
    to invade and get Bin Laden was a psyop from the beginning....

    Total fabrigation to get rid of the Taliban and reopen the poppy fields and opium
    trade among other plans for the country. It was also all part of the destruction
    of information in building seven. A convenient way to demolish the twin towers
    that had to come down anyway as the cost of refurbishment was colossal. ' Lucky
    Larry' my arse , the drills and all the other 'COINCIDENCES' are ridiculous....
    The murder of all those innocent victims and the millions after have not been
    brought to book to date !!

    Anyway we were led to believe 'Al Quaeda ' were the devils army dug in with
    more weapons than ' Texas' ....LOL



    Dick Cheney...911 Remember the lies... Imaginary Bin Laden Bunker Caves




    There is a good BBC doc and amongst the propaganda they do some good
    docs and post articles on the website , but they are not highlighted .
    I have posted it several times and i' looking for it now......

    This is a really good segment.....

    9/11 Truth - Al Qaeda Doesn't Exist



    There's no such thing as al Qaeda, or al Qaida, or however you want to spell it. It's
    a fraud perpetrated on the American people by our own government to scare us
    into submission. This is a clip from the excellent three-part BBC documentary "The
    Power of Nightmares". You can watch the whole thing on Google Video or download
    it at scholarsfor911truth.org.

    "The Power of Nightmares - 3of3 - The Rise of the Politics of", audiovisual content administered by:
    BBC Worldwide

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...025#post962025

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...827#post962827

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    SURPRISE! Dick Cheney Admits Osama Bin Laden Wasn't Directly Involved In 9 11
    Or Saddam , because he and his associates organised the attack on America,
    he does not say that bit...LOL



    Uploaded on 12 May 2011

    Osama Bin Boogeyman Laden was NEVER on the FBI's most wanted list for any
    participation in the 9 11 attack.

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    So Mr. Chaney , Mr.Bush , Mr Rumsfeld , Mr . Blair ..... Why did you invade Afghanistan ???



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    Greetings
    What has always baffled me....is...how is it the first building hit...was the second building to fall....as if someone forgot to flip a switch...
    Blessings...end of line.
    If people can be made to believe absurdities, then they can be made to accept atrocities."

    “Just look at us. Everything is backwards, everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, psychiatrists destroy minds, scientists destroy truth, major media destroys information, religions destroy spirituality and governments destroy freedom.”

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    Quote Posted by Lefty Dave (here)
    Greetings
    What has always baffled me....is...how is it the first building hit...was the second building to fall....as if someone forgot to flip a switch...
    Blessings...end of line.
    I have an opinion on this. For what it's worth.

    The second building to be "hit" (the South Tower, WTC 2) was destroyed in a controlled fashion before the first building to be "hit" (the North Tower, WTC 1) was destroyed because the first explosion(s) in the South Tower expelled so much fuel that the fire was going out too fast. So, to maintain the appearance that jet fuel was the cause of the destruction (as well as slight impact damage) and in order to support that claim by pointing to the fact that there was still fire (actually mostly smoke from contents fire) in the South Tower, it became necessary to destroy the South Tower before the fire had dissipated too much. Thus, the South Tower (the second building to be "hit") had to be destroyed before the North Tower (the first building to be "hit").

    Indeed, the fire on a few floors of the South Tower burned about 46 minutes less than the fire on a few floors of the North Tower. The North Tower fire burned about 102 minutes before they took it down, while the South Tower burned about 56 minutes before they took it down.

    These timelines are another example of how the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 does not hold up to even cursory analysis. http://www.journalof911studies.com/r...eyVol40Mar.pdf

    PS. NIST claims that the time differential is due to more plane impact damage to the South Tower. Yeah, right.
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    Thanks Cindersomerset!

    There is a regular modus operandi at work and the key to understanding it is to remember that the CIA can and does pull operational command on the battlefield.

    During the Afghan/Iraqi war op illegal pharmaceutical opiate dependence was on the rise worldwide -common mafia trade + a black market premium on pharmaceutical profits. With the Afghanistan Opium trade revamped after a war where the CIA did direct operations to this end a global crackdown on pharmaceutical opiates made them much more difficult to maintain. Honestly, in part, Obamacare was used as a reason for this crackdown. Result: millions of pharmaceutical opiate addicts now only have heroin as the only opiate available to them = our current global heroin epidemic.

    As referenced in the above "Boiling Frog Report" the CIA was at this before in the Golden Triangle during Vietnam. Only difference at home was the hippie movement was the paradigm to justify wide spread drug use. A key to my mind is, where our capacity is concerned, popular drugs at the time were the traditionally used trance inducing substances pot and psychedelic mushrooms.

    Shortly into this hippie movement LSD was introduced. Look into LSD's origins: a Japanese Chemist working at the beginning of Japan's role as an Axis power (ally to Nazis). Take this with the notion that LSD was actually developed by German Scientist much earlier then "rediscovered" by the Japanese.
    Whether Timothy Leary was CIA or not, the affect of making the LSD recipe widely known made LSD free in many situations and when coupled with occasional drying up of pot/shrooms at the same time a chemically synthesized trance inducing substance made by scientists with the backing of Nazi/NWO interests (my interpretation -I'm not alone) was popularized.

    There were other profiteers making hay during Vietnam, still the end result: crackdown on drugs that were popular at the time (or simple unavailability) worked in tandem with heroin from the Golden Triangle flooding the American market as Vietnam wound down.

    During both periods (Post 9/11 & Vietnam) we have the fingerprints of CIA/covert DoD engaging in social engineering warfare at home; CIA/covert DoD waging wars accomplishing the end result of boom markets in the drug trade.

    This is a Nazi agenda perpetrated, among other reasons, to profit their financiers and fill their war chest in large windfalls with regular frequency.

    I've posted a couple of youtube films in my below thread that speaks to the same operation (except the drug was cocaine) at work for the same reason carried out with Bush Sr. and Clinton after Vietnam and before 9/11.
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...acade-evidence
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    9/11 Suspects: Christine Todd Whitman



    Published on 6 Sep 2016


    TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES: https://www.corbettreport.com/?p=19618

    If the brave men and women who had rushed to the World Trade Center in the chaotic
    days after 9/11 to help with the search and rescue had done so knowing the risks they
    were facing, that would be one thing. But of course they did not. They had been given
    false assurances by Christine Todd Whitman, the EPA administrator who assured the
    public just days into the clean up that the air was safe to breathe.

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    9/11: Following the Money on the Century’s Greatest Conspiracy - with Richard Grove




    Published on 11 Dec 2015

    9/11 truth and questions are explored with an eye on where the money trail leads
    to, in this uncensored talk with Richard Grove. How Bush, Cheney, the Saudis, and
    the Bin Laden family are all linked at the bankbook, questions of the destruction of
    the twin towers and building 7 of the World Trade Center, plus the deregulation of
    banking and disappearance of trillions of dollars at the pentagon are all examined.
    The dark plans of the Project for a New American Century, the business being done
    by Marsh & McLennan, and Grove’s own experience as a whistleblower are all
    explored in this Buzzsaw interview, hosted by Sean Stone.
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    One of the theories is that remote controlled drones craft were possibly used,
    or the planes were remotely flown into the buildings. Well the technology goes
    back a long way in various forms and I saw a couple of articles on the headline
    page, and I thought I throw it in the mix and show how wide spread it is...

    9/11 Planes Remote Controlled; "Hijackers" Were CIA Patsies; Aircraft Boneyard
    Holds Secrets



    Published on 30 Oct 2015
    Wayne Madsen article here:
    http://www.infowars.com/report-cia-li...

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    How to Steal an Airplane: From 9/11 to MH370



    Published on 19 Mar 2014

    SUPPORT BFP: http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/suppo...
    TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES: http://www.corbettreport.com/?p=8886

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    http://infomory.com/history/history-of-drones/



    Drone Speedboats To Be Tested In Massive Military Drill 'Unmanned Warrior 2016'

    By David on 7 September 2016 GMT

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    Drone Speedboats to be Tested in Massive Military Drill “Unmanned Warrior 2016”
    September 6, 2016

    ‘Now that the air is filled with automated weapons of war, the next part of the
    drone matrix is being built in earnest.Over the past year we have witnessed several
    new developments in sea-based autonomous weapons systems that herald a new
    aspect to the ongoing global drone arms race. The U.S. military – and its allies –
    clearly view the sea as a compliment to unmanned aircraft. In April, DARPA
    unveiled plans for a flotilla of 132-foot “Sea Hunter” drones that could roam the
    seas of the world within 5 years if all goes according to plan. It is an advancement
    in what already exists under the Control Architecture for Robotic Agent Command
    and Sensing (CARACaS), which in effect creates robot swarms that can identify and
    intercept perceived threats.

    A short while later, the U.S. announced its intention to utilize what already has
    been developed in sea drone systems to potentially launch into the highly contested
    territory of the South China Sea.’

    Read more: Drone Speedboats To Be Tested In Massive Military Drill ‘Unmanned Warrior 2016’
    http://www.activistpost.com/2016/09/...d-warrior.html

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    Israel to deploy machine gun-equipped autonomous vehicles along Gaza border

    By David on 6 September 2016 GMT

    ‘Israel is set to use fully autonomous unmanned vehicles along the border with the
    Gaza Strip, according to a report published by FoxNews.com.While currently
    unarmed, the Israeli military plans to add machine guns to the so-called Border
    Protector Unmanned Ground Vehicles (UGVs) by “the beginning of next year”.An
    unnamed Israeli military official told the website: “This is the future – the border is
    a very dangerous place… Sending unmanned vehicles to do these patrols
    means that troops’ lives are not at risk.”’

    Read more: Israel to deploy machine gun-equipped autonomous vehicles along Gaza border

    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20...g-gaza-border/

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    9/11 Suspects: Philip Zelikow



    Published on 7 Sep 2016

    TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES: https://www.corbettreport.com/?p=19549

    In January of 2003, just weeks after Kissinger stepped down, it was quietly
    announced that Philip D. Zelikow would take on the role of executive director.
    As executive director, Zelikow picked "the areas of investigation, the briefing
    materials, the topics for hearings, the witnesses, and the lines of questioning
    for witnesses." In effect, this was the man in charge of running the investigation itself.

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    Who Was Really Behind the 9/11 Attacks?



    Published on 6 Sep 2013

    SHOW NOTES AND MP3: http://www.corbettreport.com/?p=7944

    As we approach the 12th anniversary of 9/11, it is time for 9/11 truth to mature as
    a movement before it stagnates into insignificance. Either the movement will live up
    to its potential by naming names and identifying suspects in the crime, or it will
    become another JFK assassination investigation, doomed to spend half a century
    fighting pointless territorial battles while the real perpetrators walk free. Join us for
    this 9/11 anniversary edition of The Corbett Report as we ask the question and
    demand an answer: Who was really behind the attacks?


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    9/11 Conspiracy: Another Nineteen – Kevin Ryan Naming Names w/ Guns & Butter



    Posted on September 1, 2016 by Guest Post

    http://thenewsdoctors.com/911-conspi...w-guns-butter/



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    9/11: The 19 Suspects the Government Wants to Hide | Think Tank



    Published on 10 Sep 2013

    Abby Martin speaks with Kevin Ryan, co-editor of the Journal of 9/11 Studies and
    author of 'Another 19', a book that explores 19 alternative suspects that he alleges
    had the real means and motive to pull of the 9/11 attacks.


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    A Brief History of False Flag Terror



    Published on 11 Sep 2013

    TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES: http://www.corbettreport.com/?p=7980

    James Corbett of The Corbett Report takes the viewer on a whirlwind tour
    of false flag history, from the Gleiwitz incident and the Lavon affair to
    Operation Northwoods and 9/11.
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    FALSE FLAGS: A HISTORY OF DECEPTION



    Published on 18 Aug 2016

    WEB: http://www.richarddolanpress.com/
    UPCOMING BOOK: False Flags: A History of Deception, by Richard M. Dolan

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    9/11 was a False Flag Attack



    Published on 20 Sep 2013

    Bigger than Watergate': US 'regular' meetings with Al-Qaeda's leader; documented
    White House 'false flag terrorism' moving people 'like sheep'; the father of Twin Towers
    victim tell us why he backs this month's 9/11 campaign on Times Square and around
    the world; & the protests calendar for September.

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    Government Allowed 9/11 | Interview with Sibel Edmonds



    Published on 14 Dec 2012
    Abby Martin talks to the Editor of Boiling Frogs Post and Founder of the National
    Security Whistleblowers Coalition, Sibel Edmonds, about her story as a
    whistleblower and the erosion of civil liberties in a post 9/11 America.

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    Dick Cheney: 9/11 Cover Up | Interview



    Published on 15 Mar 2013

    Abby Martin speaks with independent journalist, and co-host of Media Roots Radio,
    Robbie Martin, about the recent revelations of former vice president Dick Cheney
    lying to the 9/11 commission, and what larger implications this could have.
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    This is not a particularly technical thread but I wanted to add the various theories
    for anyone looking at this later and Judy certainly has one. This seems the most
    recent interview I could see......A very good little update interview....

    The second vid is of one of her slide presentations from 2012.....

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    Dr. Judy Wood: Where Did The Towers Go? - Coast To Coast Interview (April 6, 2016)



    Published on 9 Apr 2016
    Dr. Judy Wood appeared on Coast To Coast with George Noory to discuss the evidence
    of what happened to seven World Trade Center buildings on 9/11 and her book, Where
    Did The Towers Go? Evidence of Directed Free-Energy Technology on 9/11.
    http://wheredidthetowersgo.com/buy/

    Dr. Judy Wood earned a Ph.D. Degree from Virginia Tech and is a former professor of
    mechanical engineering. She has research expertise in experimental stress analysis,
    structural mechanics, deformation analysis, materials characterization and materials
    engineering science. Her dissertation involved the development of an experimental
    method to measure thermal stresses in bimaterial joints. Her research has involved
    testing materials, including complex-material systems, in the area of photomechanics,
    or the use of optical and image-analysis methods to determine physical properties of
    materials and measure how materials respond to forces placed on them. Her area of
    expertise involves interferometry in forensic science. She taught graduate and
    undergraduate engineering classes and has authored or co-authored over 60 peer-
    reviewed papers and journal publications in her areas of expertise. http://drjudywood.com

    Peer-review papers from Dr. Judy Wood (available online):

    Deformation Measurements of Composite Multi-Span Beam Shear Specimens by
    Moire Interferometry: http://oai.dtic.mil/oai/oai?verb=getR...

    Detection of Delamination Onset in a Composite Laminate Using Moiré Interferometry:
    http://www.astm.org/DIGITAL_LIBRARY/J...

    Deformations and strains in a thick adherend lap joint: http://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=198...

    Determination of thermal strains by moiré interferometry: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1...

    Micromechanical Study of Thermal Strains near the Interface of a Bimaterial Joint by Microscopic
    Moiré Interferometry: http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1992exm...

    Thermal Stresses in a Bimaterial Joint: An Experimental Analysis: http://appliedmechanics.asmedigitalco...

    Influence of Matrix Chemistry on the Short Term, Hydrothermal Aging of Vinyl Ester Matrix and Composites
    under Both Isothermal and Thermal Spiking Conditions : http://jcm.sagepub.com/content/33/20/...

    Determination of thermal strains in the neighborhood of a bimaterial interface: http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/theses/avai...
    (Only available to Virginia Tech staff)
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    Dr. Wood's Request for Corrections (RFC) to NIST (March 16, 2007): http://drjudywood.com/articles/NIST/N...

    Dr. Wood's Appeal to the NIST's Response (August 22, 2007): http://drjudywood.com/articles/NIST/N...

    Subsequent Qui Tam case (October 20, 2009): http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/NI...

    Plaintiff's Motion for Reconsideration per F.R. Civ. P59(e) and Local Rule 6.3, Sttorney Jerry V. Leaphart (July 11, 2008):
    http://www.drjudywood.com/pdf/080711...CV3314_103.pdf

    SEISMIC IMPACT FOR WTC 1 (110-stories, 500,000 tons): Local Magnitude (ML) 2.3 -- without p-wave or s-wave

    SEISMIC IMPACT FOR WTC 2 (110-stories, 500,000 tons): Local Magnitude (ML) 2.1 -- without p-wave or s-wave

    SEISMIC IMPACT FOR WTC 7 (47-stories, 230,000 tons): Local Magnitude (ML) 0.6 -- without p-wave or s-wave

    A 0.6 seismic reading can be referred to as a "microearthquake" and is of such a low magnitude that it is indiscernible
    from natural tectonic origins. How can a 47-story building be destroyed and leave a seismic signal that is not distinct
    from natural causes?

    http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/LCSN/Eq...C_LDEO_KIM.pdf
    http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/LCSN/Eq/...

    *For comparison: Seismic Impact for Seattle Kingdome Collapse (130,000 tons): Local Magnitude (ML) 2.3 -- with p-wave and s-wave

    Surface waves were recorded, but no primary or secondary waves of any significance were recorded at the local seismic stations. Why?

    Emergency Medical Technician Michael Ober: "I don't remember the sound of the building hitting the ground. Somebody told
    me that it was measured on the Richter scale, I don't know how true that is. If the building is hitting the ground that hard,
    how do I not remember the sound of it?" --Where Did The Towers Go? Evidence of Directed Free-Energy Technology on 9/11, pg 157

    16 Survivors at Stairwell B:
    http://www.thrnewmedia.com/adayinsept...
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/artic...

    Tritium at WTC: https://www.llnl.gov/tid/lof/document...

    Magnetometer data: http://magnet.gi.alaska.edu/table_ind...

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    Dr Judy Wood : Evidence of breakthrough energy technology on 9/11



    Dr Judy Wood at the Breakthrough energy Movement conference,2012 Holland

    Title: The dawn of a new age, evidence of breakthrough energy technology on 9/11

    Run time : 2.24.57
    Speaker : Dr Judy Wood
    Price : Free

    If you enjoyed this presentation and want to support GlobalBEM please visit our
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    For many years, we have heard that a "free-energy1 device is just around the
    corner," but it never seems to come to fruition. Nikola Tesla wanted to give free
    energy to the world nearly 100 years ago but was afraid it would fall into the wrong
    hands and be used for destructive purposes. Well, that is no longer just a risk; it
    has already happened. However, until we understand just how powerful this
    technology is as well as how powerful the interests are that control it, we won't see
    it in general use. We first need to respect what this technology can do, otherwise it
    would be like leaving a gun cabinet unlocked around children who do not know
    what guns can do. We also need the world to see what this technology has done.
    This technology was used to destroy the World Trade Center complex on 9/11/01
    and was a demonstration of a new kind of free-energy technology in front of the
    entire world. As more people around the world recognize this, the less power the
    controlling interests will have. And if the entire world knows that free-energy
    technology exists, individuals can openly build their own devices and share their
    designs with others. It won't be a secret!

    BIO
    Dr. Judy D. Wood is a former professor of mechanical engineering with research
    interests in experimental stress analysis, structural mechanics, optical methods,
    deformation analysis, and the materials characterization of biomaterials and
    composite materials. She is a member of the Society for Experimental Mechanics
    (SEM), co-founded SEM's Biological Systems and Materials Division, and has served
    on the SEM Composite Materials Technical Division. Dr. Wood received her B.S.
    (Civil Engineering, 1981) (Structural Engineering), M.S. Engineering Mechanics
    (Applied Physics, 1983), and Ph.D. (Materials Engineering Science, 1992).

    http://www.drjudywood.com/
    http://wheredidthetowersgo.com/
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