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    Default German Documents about Parallel Civilizations and Antarctica. What do they say?



    It's all in German, but apparently contains directions for accessing subterranean realms. Submarines and grottoes were mentioned.

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    Quote The Naval Forces of the German Reiche

    Map Through the passage of the Deep Sea

    Only Use for Manouvers

    Instructions to clearly pass through corridors to drive to Agartha
    descend on point with the coordinates: exact point: 68* Southern Wide and 1* Eastern on a depth of 400 meters.

    The instructions must be strictly followed !

    Best quality image of the documents here:
    http://silakrima.com/?q=node/516

    GERMAN ORIGINAL

    Geheime Kommandosache !

    Nur für Kapitäne von U-Booten der A-Klasse des Sonderkonvois des Führers

    U-Bootflotte der Kriegsmarine des deutschen Reichs

    Karte für das Passieren der Meerestiefen

    Nur beim Manövrieren verwenden !

    Anweisung zum Passieren von Räumen und Korridoren zur Fahrt nach Agartha

    Abtauchen an Punkt mit den Koordinaten: Exakter Schnittpunkt: 68° (55? 66?) südlicher Breite und 1° östlicher Länge, auf eine Tiefe von 400 Metern.


    Der Anweisung ist strikt zu folgen !

    1. Abtauchen. Vom Punkt des Abtauchens mit halber Fahrt, einer Steuerbord-Schräglage von 10° mit einer Zuglastigkeit, Neigungswinkel 5°. Entfernung 188 sm. Vorgegebene Tiefe – 500 Meter. (Aufgrund des Fahrens im Korridor ist der Druck auf den Schiffskörper beim Manövrieren ein unwesentlicher.)

    2. Auftauchen. Ballast mit einer Hecktrimmung, Auftauchwinkel 23° mit einer Backbord-Schräglage von 22°. 190 Meter nach oben. Entfernung 75,5 sm.

    3. Schwieriges Manöver ! Auftauchen. Ballast mit einer Hecktrimmung, Auftauchwinkel 41°. Fahrt – geradeaus. 110 Meter nach oben, Entfernung 21,5 sm. Danach Steuerbord-Schräglage von 8° bis zum Auftauchen an die Oberfläche in der Grotte. Entfernung 81 sm.

    4. Fahrt an der Oberfläche innerhalb der Grotte mit einer Steurbord-Schräglage von 8°. Entfernung 286 sm.

    5., 6. Schwieriges Manöver! Abtauchen. Mit einer Zuglastigkeit, Neigungswinkel 45°. Bis auf eine Tiefe von 240 Metern, Entfernung 60 sm. Danach mit einer Backbord-Schräglage von 20°, wobei das Abtauchen bis auf 310 Meter bis zur Einfahrt in den Korridor fortgesetzt wird.
    Nach der Marke 310 Meter ist das Abtauchen mit einer Zuglastigkeit fortzusetzen. Abtauchwinkel 7° bis auf 360 Meter. Entfernung 70 sm. Weiter Steuerbord-Schräglage von 31° bis auf eine Tiefe von 380 Metern.

    7. Abtauchen. Zuglastigkeit, Auftauchwinkel 22°. 100 Meter nach oben mit einer Backbord-Schräglage von 26°. Entfernung 43 sm.

    8. Auftauchen, Hecktrimmung, Auftauchwinkel 45°, immer geradeaus, bis zum Auftauchen an die Oberfläche von Agartha. Entfernung 70 sm.

    9. Fahrt nach Agartha. Volle Fahrt. Fahrt geradeaus, bis das neue Licht ausgemacht wird. Änderungen der Magnetpole. Bewegungen der Kompassnadeln und Messgeräte sind zu vernachlässigen!

    (Weitere Anweisungen im Paket Nr. 3. Erst bei Eintreffen in Agartha öffnen!)
    Callista also kindly contributed this translation:

    Quote Secret command thing!

    Only for masters of U-boats of a class of special convoys of the leader

    U boat fleet of the Navy of the German Empire

    Map for passing through the ocean depths

    Use only when manoeuvring.

    Statement to passing through rooms and corridors to the drive to Agartha

    Diving at point with the coordinates: exact intersection: 68 Südlciher Brteite and 1 ° East longer, at a depth of 400 metres.
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    Default Re: German Documents about Parallel Civilizations and Antarctica. What do they say?

    That looks to be a very interesting document Daozen, and seems to be in remarkable condition.

    Are you aware of the provenance of it? Are you able to share any details of how, and by whom, it has come to light? And from where?

    I think these are important questions that need answers before we can contemplate the implications that arise should this document be genuine.


    Regards.

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    Default Re: German Documents about Parallel Civilizations and Antarctica. What do they say?

    Here is the translation:

    Secret command thing!

    Only for masters of U-boats of a class of special convoys of the leader

    U boat fleet of the Navy of the German Empire

    Map for passing through the ocean depths

    Use only when manoeuvring.

    Statement to passing through rooms and corridors to the drive to Agartha

    Diving at point with the coordinates: exact intersection: 68 Südlciher Brteite and 1 ° East longer, at a depth of 400 metres.

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    Quote Posted by Citizen No2 (here)
    That looks to be a very interesting document Daozen, and seems to be in remarkable condition.

    Are you aware of the provenance of it? Are you able to share any details of how, and by whom, it has come to light? And from where?

    I think these are important questions that need answers before we can contemplate the implications that arise should this document be genuine.


    Regards.
    Good questions Citizen No2... these documents were just "floating round the internet". I can't vouch for their authenticity, I can only say they are interesting. Anyone is welcome to search for maps and similar documents using Google, and we can discuss their veracity. Someone PMed me and said he had found more docs in the same collection, with references to ancient civilizations.

    We know the Nazis were obsessed with the occult, and made several trips to Tibet. How far underground they got, and what they found, is a mystery.

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    Here is the translation:
    Quote Posted by Atlas (here)
    Source: http://hollowplanet.blogspot.com/201...-entrance.html
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    "The instruction have to be strictly followed!"

    How wonderfully Germanic. Thanks for that, Atlas.

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    2015. Russian journalist Nikolai Subbotin analyzes the documents (in Russian/German):


    http://www.base211.ru/?mn=pag&mns=mvwfv8etgh371

    Did The Nazis Build A Secret Antarctic Base?

    Is An Ancient City Hidden Under Antarctica?
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    The authenticity of this document needs to be established before people go diving in and off on a tangent.

    Anything other than that will lead you to be exposed, to be wide-open to further mis-direction and out-and-out lies. I am now of the opinion that failure to do so renders you as a gullible fool. It is up to you. This whole Alt Media scene is awash with liars and chancers'.......... They have been allowed to propagate their lies by the sheer laziness of the masses (myself included).

    I am not casting aspersions on Daozen, or any others who have posted on this thread, but more a statement of intent.

    The Truth requires work. The Truth requires YOU to do something other than watch a video.

    The first appearance of this 'document' was on the 14th December 2013 on this site: http://www.ghosttheory.com/topics/conspiracies

    Since then it has made regular appearances on a whole host of conspiracy websites, and that is pretty much it. No authentication. No provenance. No nothing.


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    Quote Posted by Citizen No2 (here)
    The authenticity of this document needs to be established before people go diving in and off on a tangent.

    Anything other than that will lead you to be exposed, to be wide-open to further mis-direction and out-and-out lies. I am now of the opinion that failure to do so renders you as a gullible fool. It is up to you. This whole Alt Media scene is awash with liars and chancers'.......... They have been allowed to propagate their lies by the sheer laziness of the masses (myself included).

    I am not casting aspersions on Daozen, or any others who have posted on this thread, but more a statement of intent.

    The Truth requires work. The Truth requires YOU to do something other than watch a video.

    The first appearance of this 'document' was on the 14th December 2013 on this site: http://www.ghosttheory.com/topics/conspiracies

    Since then it has made regular appearances on a whole host of conspiracy websites, and that is pretty much it. No authentication. No provenance. No nothing.


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    Quote Anything other than that will lead you to be exposed, to be wide-open to further mis-direction and out-and-out lies. I am now of the opinion that failure to do so renders you as a gullible fool. It is up to you. This whole Alt Media scene is awash with liars and chancers'.......... They have been allowed to propagate their lies by the sheer laziness of the masses (myself included).

    The whole point of this thread is to establish the authenticity of these materials. That starts with translation. It's no easier to verify these documents than it is stories from the Bible, or ancient Ming vases. i.e. there will be diverse opinions, even among "experts". Stage one is geting the materials out in the open.

    "Establishing authenticity" as you say, is not done overnight. There is no central authority to call up and ask, no quick yes or no answer. Ask any archaelologist or art collector, and you'll see that controversies rage in their fields.

    I have no intellectual or emotional energy invested in these documents. I'm not selling them, nor building a career off them. If it turns out they're a cauldron of hogwash, it's no skin off my nose. It's standard practice in the alt media scene for someone to bust into a thread and start patronizing the OP, playing the grounded, down-to-Earth scholar. You made some outlandish claims on these boards yourself, a couple of weeks ago. I'm inclined to give you the benefit of the doubt regarding your story. I don't ask that you believe anything I say, only that you go about this scientifically and methodically, without bluster or brow-beating. And stop being so English, please.



    If anyone wants to help, we can go about this logically:

    - Find out where the documents came from. What book, if any?
    - What is the reputation of the author?
    - Are there any other documents that show the Nazi's were interested in the occult, or the subterranean?
    - What is the standard of German in the original text. Does it "ring true" to translators?
    - Are there any red flags in the text or the maps which point to them possibly being fake?
    - Are there any other scholars who vouch for these materials. What is their reputation and track record?


    If anyone can think of more questions, I'm listening.

    *

    So hopefully we can enjoy the journey now, and find out what's true, and what isn't.
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    Get over yourself man.

    Pompous English? Is that a mild racial slur?

    See, two can play that game.

    If you had done even a cursory bit of research you would have found out easily enough that u-boat commanders were not referred to as 'masters', not in the Kriegsmarine anyway. There's your first clue to the authenticity of this..............'document'.

    With respect.


    Regards.

    English gent? Where did you get that from? I tell ya. I'm off to bed. Toodle-Pip!
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    Quote If you had done even a cursory bit of research you would have found out easily enough that u-boat commanders were not referred to 'masters', not in the Kriegsmarine anyway. There's your first clue to the authenticity of this..............'document'.
    Thanks for providing that. That's actually useful information that can lead us somewhere. It'd take a German speaker to follow that up and verify it. Maybe if you refer directly to the German words, it would be easier for us to trace the exact meaning.

    As many are aware, there are at least two hierarchies in the power structures on this Earth. In the outer hierarchy, someone's title is President, Accountant, Intern... whatever. In the inner hierarchy, titles, and rank are different. The Freemasons are but one example of a parallel power structure with different ranks and titles. Inner hierarchies are more occult based, and so someone's internal rank may have a completely different name in the internal structure.

    I don't think that fact invalidates the documents by any means, but at least it's something useful, verifiable and evidence based.

    I have someone helping me translate on PM's, who prefers to remain nameless, so I'll see what he says about that.

    *

    EDIT:

    Citizen No. 2 is right, Kriegsmarine leaders are not referred to as masters. This points to many conclusions (one of which is that the documents are fraudulent). But there are many subtle shades of grey here. I'll go into it later...

    http://uboat.net/men/ranks/
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    Clearly we know nothing about the planet we live on…
    well, the elite of the Nazi did, (btw did you know there was a HUGE difference between the Nazi SS before and after the war broke out? Cut from a different cloth) and in the course of years the rest of the debased "global elite" figured it out.

    Obama's Secret Antarctica Trip: A Planned WW3 Escape Route? (Operation Highjump Russia + U.S.)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B97kDYEIWvE&app=desktop

    The first question that pops out in the beginning (besides the obvious title) is "why did the Russian patriarch and the pope 'meet in Antarctica' recently?" The first time in 1000 years! Can't think of places closer to home?
    Until of course the reasons that follow in the YT short..such as pristine untouched landmass, no military hostilities between peoples, without scientific research and testing for weapons and so on. It is a place faraway from the useless eaters, where everyone can live in peace together…

    How f*cking touching! All the creeps of the lost souls get together and sing kumbaya - after destroying the rest of the planet and corrupting everything human of nature, all life, the species, the morals, the ethics, everything that was good, to a brink of extinction. It's crazy yo.

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    Second thoughts not sure if this post is appropriate ....
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    Quote Posted by Sequoia (here)
    [...] the Russian patriarch and the pope 'meet in Antarctica' recently?
    Probably not true see:

    Patriarch Kirill meets penguins at Russian base as he becomes first Orthodox leader to visit Antarctica

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    Quote Posted by Citizen No2 (here)
    If you had done even a cursory bit of research you would have found out easily enough that u-boat commanders were not referred to as 'masters', not in the Kriegsmarine anyway. There's your first clue to the authenticity of this..............'document'.

    *

    English gent? Where did you get that from? I tell ya. I'm off to bed. Toodle-Pip!
    A sharp eyed translator elsewhere has pointed out that "Masters" is an English translation. Callista provided a computer translation, which is useful to quickly glance at the meaning of a document.

    But if we look at the original:

    Quote Nur für Kapitäne von U-Booten der A-Klasse des Sonderkonvois des Führers

    U-Bootflotte der Kriegsmarine des deutschen Reichs
    ... it clearly states Kapitane, not master.

    Voila! The worm turns.

    https://youtu.be/hto-UMuYkwk?t=61

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    For what its worth , a splinter group that shares ancestry with the plejaren known as the syrian creator overlords, also called the Giza intelligences were secretly influencing Hitler and giving his scientist technology ... the plejaren were the foo fighters, shutting down nuclear sites trying to avoid nuclear war, and searching for the overlords secret base ... they found it in 1982 , captured them , destroyed the technology, and and dissolved a moon of a distant planet where the base was , and turned it to pure energy ... also they filled in the base under the great pyramid of Giza with stone , captured the beamship that was hidden there for 3,000 years ... the prison ( in another dimension ) holding the syrians is hermetically sealed and guarded by the plejaren federation to this day ... i cannot prove any of this, i have just read it in the 26,000 pages of contact notes ...
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    I wouldn't be so sure…regardless of everyone being thoroughly jaded and not seeing the forest from the trees..wouldn't you like to know what Antarctica is exactly and why would superdupersecretive meetings take place there, and underneath that melting ice/permafrost dun, dun, dun…we are treading thin ice here in uncharted waters, don't get too jaded

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    The document strikes me as the photoshop-product of someone with a bit of extra time. One would have to compare the typography of the document with actual ones from the 40s, but my instinct is - especially regarding the distance-marks(500 km etc.) - that the font used is slightly off, possibly too modern, mostly it looks too computer made(punctual with the distances between the letters seemingly of software-origin).
    Well, first instinct is that.

    UT

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    Quote Posted by Ultima Thule (here)
    The document strikes me as the photoshop-product of someone with a bit of extra time. One would have to compare the typography of the document with actual ones from the 40s, but my instinct is - especially regarding the distance-marks(500 km etc.) - that the font used is slightly off, possibly too modern, mostly it looks too computer made(punctual with the distances between the letters seemingly of software-origin).
    Well, first instinct is that. UT

    And if it is a 70 year old document it is extremely well perserved because I can see no evidence of browning on the edges of the document nor fraying.

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    That German ID card of "neue Berlin" is fake.

    There are several errors in it:
    • In German the name would be either "Neu-Berlin" or "das neue Berlin". "Neue Berlin" is orthographically incorrect.
    • At German maps of Antarctica the name of one location is "Neu-Berlin", not "Neue Berlin". (see this map of Asgard)
    • The German name for Antarctica is "Antarktis".
    • There are typographical errors too. Wrong quotes are used. In Germany we prefer 99 ... 66 („…“) whereas American people use 66 ... 99 (“ ... ”). But here is written "Neue Berlin“, which is completely wrong. Perhaps the used Truetype font did not have proper quotation marks, or the person who created that document simply did know about typography.
    • Somebody is selling that document at delcampe net. Even there the description clearly states "NOT ORIGINAL"

    So - it is a joke.



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