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    Jaymie Icke Talks to Luke Rudkowski of WRC on David Icke, 911 and the Awakening in the US



    Published on 13 Sep 2016
    World Tour Tickets - http://www.TheWorldWideWakeUp.com 2016/17

    David Icke Live in New York - "I've learned more in a day than in the previous 10 years"



    David Icke Live in New York - "I've learned more in a day than in the previous 10 years"
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    Egyptian state media claims ISIS was 'made up', 9/11 and attacks in Europe were not
    carried out by Islamists but by Western intelligence agencies 'to justify the war on terror’

    By David on 16 September 2016 GMT 9/11,



    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    INDEPENDENT.....

    Egyptian state media claims ISIS was 'made up', 9/11 and attacks in Europe were not
    carried out by Islamists but by Western intelligence agencies 'to justify the war on terror’

    Isis could have been invented by the US to "justify the devastation, partitioning and
    occupation" of the Middle East, writes Noha Al-Sharnoubi

    Katie Forster |@katieforster |8 hours ago|


    The September 11 attacks and subsequent atrocities in Europe were not carried out by
    Islamist terrorists, but by Western intelligence agencies, Egyptian state media has suggested.

    An article in the country’s government daily newpaper Al-Ahram said the attacks were
    carried out to justify ‘the occupation and devastation of the Middle East by the West
    and the persecution of Muslims in Europe’.


    Read more: Egyptian state media claims ISIS was ‘made up’, 9/11 and attacks in Europe were
    not carried out by Islamists but by Western intelligence agencies ‘to justify the war on terror’

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7308926.html

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    One Week After 9/11 - David Icke & Jeff Rense - 18 Sept 2001

    By David on 20 September 2016 GMT


    In this interview they are already speculating this must be an inside job , very
    good interview........

    David Icke & Jeff Rense - 18 Sept 2001 One Week After 9/11

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    Default Re: 9/11: 16th Anniversary articles, suspects & flying circus // Fairytale of NY videocast

    I was going to do a new thread but there were not many new articles up
    so far, Since I miss titled this thread last year it has now caught up...

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    ENHANCED VERSION: News Reports WTC7 Fell Before It Happens!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltP2t9nq9fI

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    The conspiracies that won't go away: Brother of 9/11 victim claim the US
    orchestrated the atrocity as new study shows it was impossible that the
    third tower collapsed from fire

    By Andrew Cheetham on 9 September 2017 GMT 9/11, Problem-Reaction-Solution

    MAIL ON LINE....

    The conspiracies that won't go away: Brother of 9/11 victim claim the US
    orchestrated the atrocity as new study shows it was impossible that the third
    tower collapsed from fire
    Geoff Campbell, 31, was one of 67 Britons killed in the New York 9/11 attacks
    His brother refuses to accept the official line and insists there was a cover-up
    Matt Campbell will protest outside BBC Broadcasting House on the anniversary

    By Sue Reid for the Daily Mail

    Published: 01:14, 9 September 2017 | Updated: 12:35, 9 September 2017

    ‘Next Monday afternoon, Matt Campbell will stand outside BBC Broadcasting
    House in London’s Portland Place, protesting about the killing of his brother,
    Geoff, and 66 other Britons, in the 9/11 terror attack at the New York World
    Trade Centre.

    After the horror on September 11, 2001, there was no trace of Geoff. The
    31-year-old risk analyst had been attending a conference on the 106th
    floor in the North Tower, a short stroll from the Manhattan apartment
    where he lived with his American fiancée, Caroline.

    At first, his family clung to the hope he was alive, until one year later
    fragments of a shoulder blade bearing Geoff’s DNA were found among
    Trade Centre rubble at a landfill site.

    Matt began asking questions. He has not stopped since. He, and others
    who will be at the BBC protest, refuse to accept the official story about
    9/11: that four U.S. airliners were hijacked by Islamist terror chief
    Osama Bin Laden’s pilots. Two were flown into New York’s famous
    Twin Towers, which collapsed.’

    Read more: The conspiracies that won’t go away: Brother of 9/11 victim
    claim the US orchestrated the atrocity as new study shows it was impossible
    that the third tower collapsed from fire

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-atrocity.html

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    David Icke: 911 was an inside job

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQXAM1vmfxc

    David Icke produced the first major book exposing the 9/11 hoax and inside job
    in September 2002. Alice in Wonderland and the world trade centre disaster

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    Where Was Osama bin Laden on September 10, 2001? One Day Before 9/11 He
    Was in a Pakistani Military Hospital…

    By Andrew Cheetham on 9 September 2017 GMT 9/11,

    GLOBAL RESEARCH....

    Where Was Osama bin Laden on September 10, 2001? One Day Before 9/11 He Was
    in a Pakistani Military Hospital…

    Michel Chossudovsky: Bin Laden Hospitalized on September 10, CBS Dan Rather Report

    By Prof Michel Chossudovsky
    Global Research, September 08, 2017


    ‘This CBS Report suggests that Osama bin Laden had been admitted to a Pakistani
    Military hospital in Rawalpindi on the 10th local time, less than 24 hours before the
    terrorist attacks.

    The report does not mention when he was actually released.

    Nonetheless, this report casts doubt on the official narrative to the effect that Osama
    bin Laden was responsible for coordinating the 9/11 attacks.

    From where? From his hospital bed? From his laptop or his cell phone?

    The Pakistani military headquarters located in Rawalpindi is integrated by resident
    US military and intelligence advisers working with their Pakistani colleagues, who
    routinely report to Washington. It would be impossible for Osama bin Laden to
    enter a Pakistani military hospital unnoticed. Osama is a CIA “intelligence asset”.
    His whereabouts are known.

    If this CBS report is correct, this confirms that the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden
    on September 10 were known to the Bush Administration.’

    In all likelihood Osama had a GPS “Embedded Locator Chip” within his body, or a
    GPS in his laptop or cell phone which would have enabled US intelligence to establish
    his precise location in real time. (That GPS technology including the embedded locator
    chip was readily available to US intelligence and law enforcement well before 2001).

    Osama could have been arrested on the 10th of September 2001. But that did not happen.

    Donald Rumsfeld repeatedly claimed that the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden were
    unknown: “It is like looking for a needle in a stack of hay”. It’s an outright lie.
    Needless to say, “Going after bin Laden” in the wake of 9/11 has served to sustain the
    legend of the “world’s most wanted terrorist”.

    The complete transcript of the CBS report is given below (emphasis). The original
    CBS video is also provided.

    Excerpt from Michel Chossudovsky’s presentation to McMaster University, Ontario in 2002



    Read more: Where Was Osama bin Laden on September 10, 2001? One Day Before 9/11
    He Was in a Pakistani Military Hospital…

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/where-w...spital/5607143

    The Toronto Hearings on 9/11 Uncut - Michel Chossudovsky
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPIfgmuN4ns
    In 2011, experts and scientists from around the world gathered in Toronto, Canada to present
    new and established evidence that questions the official story of 9/11. This evidence was
    presented to a distinguished panel of experts over a 4 day period.Through their analysis and
    scientific investigations, they hope to spark a new investigation into the attacks of September 11, 2001.
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    Default Re: 9/11: 16th Anniversary articles, suspects & flying circus // Fairytale of NY videocast

    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)

    One Week After 9/11 - David Icke & Jeff Rense - 18 Sept 2001

    I'd been unaware of this interview... Kudos to David. Just a week after 9/11, and he nailed it.

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    Layers of Deception - PART 1 OF 3



    Published on 8 Sep 2017


    9/11 was a global psychological operation which deceived over half of the world, in which
    the effects on display were not caused by what most people were lead to believe. If you
    believe the official story, then you really need to leave the human race and go and live in
    a flange of baboons. Working out what really happened has been a difficult journey for most
    honest researchers. This is because there are as many "muddle up merchants" operating in
    9/11 research as there are genuine truth seekers. The muddle up merchants have been trying
    to discredit all of the video footage, some of which provides clues to what really happened.
    Evidence that passenger jet planes were used in any of the four attacks is slim to non existent.
    Today Richard is joined by Mark Conlon and Andrew Johnson who dispel some of the dis-information
    and hence get closer to the truth on the 9/11 plane issue.

    part 2....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWFbo2WCcWc

    part 3....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDmzkwTF0ZQ

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    Layers of Deception - PART 1 OF 3



    Published on 8 Sep 2017


    9/11 was a global psychological operation which deceived over half of the world, in which
    the effects on display were not caused by what most people were lead to believe. If you
    believe the official story, then you really need to leave the human race and go and live in
    a flange of baboons. Working out what really happened has been a difficult journey for most
    honest researchers. This is because there are as many "muddle up merchants" operating in
    9/11 research as there are genuine truth seekers. The muddle up merchants have been trying
    to discredit all of the video footage, some of which provides clues to what really happened.
    Evidence that passenger jet planes were used in any of the four attacks is slim to non existent.
    Today Richard is joined by Mark Conlon and Andrew Johnson who dispel some of the dis-information
    and hence get closer to the truth on the 9/11 plane issue.

    part 2....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWFbo2WCcWc

    part 3....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDmzkwTF0ZQ
    A damn good read....Dr Judy Wood: 'Where Did The Towers Go?'
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_pLOvvUpi8
    http://www.richplanet.net/rp_genre.p...6&part=1&gen=2

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    In another thread on this forum...
    Jim Marrs: the definitive presentation on the JFK assassination
    ...there is a presentation by Jim Marrs titled "the definitive presentation on the JFK assassination". In that presentation he provides a list of items supporting how that assassination was covered up. It's an old game plan, but he very correctly laid it out its main elements.

    What he listed was this:

    "Fabrication of evidence.
    Suppression of evidence
    Alteration of evidence
    Destruction of evidence
    Intimidation of witnesses"

    These are the core, tried and true things that are often done by the perpetrators of a crime, especially a huge crime of the proportions of the Kennedy assassination and 9/11, to cover up the crime and to prevent detection and prosecution.

    Who was then, and is now, in a position to do these things? As to Kennedy, certainly not Oswald. He was dead shortly after the assassination and had no power or means to carry them out even if her had not been murdered himself.

    As to 9/11 one must ask similar questions about the official conspiracy theory involving OBL Among other things, was he in any position to participate in the:

    "Fabrication of evidence.
    Suppression of evidence
    Alteration of evidence
    Destruction of evidence
    Intimidation of witnesses"...?

    I certainly do not think so. Like the Kennedy assassination, the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is a lie-- lock, stock and barrel. Proving the lie has been made more difficult by carrying out the things Jim Marrs spoke of. And that is why these things were done and are being done today regarding 9/11. Destroy the crime scene and the evidence and thereby avoid detection and prosecution.
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    Quote In another thread on this forum...

    Jim Marrs: the definitive presentation on the JFK assassination

    ...there is a presentation by Jim Marrs titled "the definitive presentation on the JFK assassination".
    In that presentation he provides a list of items supporting how that assassination was covered up.
    It's an old game plan, but he very correctly laid it out its main elements.
    Its a tried a tested technique from Rome and beyond to today.
    Many of the threads are connected.......


    Quote A damn good read....Dr Judy Wood: 'Where Did The Towers Go?'
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_pLOvvUpi8
    http://www.richplanet.net/rp_genre.p...6&part=1&gen=2
    Yes excellent work and she was also awake on the day of 9/11 I have posted many
    threads and articles on this subject over the years . I tend to look more at the geo -
    political angles.Though I post all aspects of the event and leave the technical side
    to those more qualified. That does not mean we cannot speculate within reason ,
    and Judies work is on the more exotic side though not if you are down the rabbit
    hole like most on Avalon and such sites or you would not be here. Though new
    people are looking in all the time which is worth keeping in mind imo.

    Dr Judy Wood - Several good interviews in early 2013
    Richard D Hall/Dr Judy Wood - Richplanet TV - 08 Feb 2013
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFfZWjDvtHo
    Read More....
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...289#post652289
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    Media Analyst Lionel , lawyer & Emmi award winner
    reflects on 9/11 he was in New York on the day and
    the event changed his world view.


    America's Mandatory Red Pill Moment 16 Years Ago
    Today — Lionel on "Real News With David Knight"



    Published on 11 Sep 2017
    The 16th anniversary of our day of horror remembered.

    ====================================
    ====================================

    Sixteen Years Ago Today Was My Red Pill Moment

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjBcig5YLRE

    Published on 11 Sep 2017

    Sixteen years ago today. It's not just me. A close inspection of the official account
    of that horrible show will show disbelief and disgust as to the official account and
    the investigations that were allowed to take place. The 9/11 Commission was
    hamstrung by official obstruction. It never managed to ascertain the whole truth
    of what happened on September 11 2001, the Guardian notes below.

    The chair and vice chair of the 9/11 Commission, respectively Thomas Kean and
    Lee Hamilton, assert in their book, Without Precedent, that they were "set up to fail"
    and were starved of funds to do a proper investigation. They also confirm that they
    were denied access to the truth and misled by senior officials in the Pentagon and
    the federal aviation authority; and that this obstruction and deception led them to
    contemplate slapping officials with criminal charges.

    Despite the many public statements by 9/11 commissioners and staff members
    acknowledging they were repeatedly lied to, not a single person has ever been
    charged, tried, or even reprimanded, for lying to the 9/11 Commission.

    From the outset, the commission seemed to be hobbled. It did not start work until
    over a year after the attacks. Even then, its terms of reference were suspiciously
    narrow, its powers of investigation curiously limited and its time-frame for producing
    a report unhelpfully short - barely a year to sift through millions of pages of evidence
    and to interview hundreds of key witnesses.

    The final report did not examine key evidence, and neglected serious anomalies in the
    various accounts of what happened. The commissioners admit their report was incomplete
    and flawed, and that many questions about the terror attacks remain unanswered.
    Nevertheless, the 9/11 Commission was swiftly closed down on August 21 2004.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentis...

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    The official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is demonstrably false. On the question of the causes of the destruction of WTC 1, 2 and 7 see, e.g., http://www.journalof911studies.com/r...eyVol40Mar.pdf.

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    On September 6, 2017, a study funded by Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth and done by the Institute of Northern Engineering and led by Dr. J. Leroy Hulsey of the University of Alaska at Fairbanks presented his group's findings titled A Structural Reevaluation of the Collapse of World Trade Center 7 in a video titled WTC 7 Did Not Collapse from Fire.

    And on the 16th anniversary of this infamous event, Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth are seeking support to petition Congress to introduce The Bobby Mcllvaine Act. If you're convinced the official story is bunk or, at least, feel that there are several things that just don't add up, I urge you to support this endeavor. It really takes very little effort to make your voice heard. Whether our voice falls on deaf ears is another thing.
    There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

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    Every major network the moment 9/11 occurred simultaneously


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    Most of the mainstream news 9/11 articles are hard to watch especially if you have
    any insight into the various alternate views of what happened and consequent
    events. When Fox anchor spoke to Rob O'Neil gushing with pride and patriotism it
    made me feel nauseous . Hannity who has interviewed Julian Assange and is aware
    of Alex Jones and others must know the alternate theories but he won't go
    anywhere near it and classically clashed with Jesse Ventura back in 2008.
    Hannity says at one time if there was any truth in it, that 100's of engineers would
    of come out. Since then 1000's of architects and engineers have come out and
    Hannity has not had Richard Gage or any others on as far as I know......

    Jesse Ventura tried several times and Fox did have him on to be fair though they
    were trying to disprove his views. Jesse said a few years ago they will not have him
    on any more.Jesse now has a new show an RT...Government Hypocrisy, US Election
    Misconduct & the Media https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoIC4iOwnyk.

    Jesse Ventura Explains 9/11 And Things To Hannity

    Published on 11 Apr 2008
    Former Minnesota Governor Jesse "The Mind" Ventura On Fox News Hannity &
    Colmes 4-8-08. Don't start the revolution without me.
    http://www.jesseventura.com/
    Seems Jesse gets the point out about the Truth Of 9/11.
    Jesse Ventura Vs. Sean Hannity
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q_2ESw2k2c

    JESSE VENTURA SETS FOX NEWS STRAIGHT
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeQSWJ0rnuU

    Eric Bolling vs Jesse Ventura!

    Published on 16 Apr 2011
    Showdown between Eric Bolling and ardent 9/11 truther Jesse Ventura.

    Jesse did go on several shows promoting his books and they all were sceptical
    of his views and all followed the government line.....

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    There are many pictures of Sadam's and Gaddaffis bodies some very grisly . There
    is nothing of Bin Laden the person whose name according to the US and the West is
    reason for millions of deaths over the past 16 years relatively few of them westerners.

    Alleged pictures of Bin Ladens body.( Warning some pic's are graphic)
    https://keeptonyblairforpm.wordpress...mment-page-10/http://osamadead.jigsy.com/
    http://osamadead.jigsy.com/

    Is this man a liar ? did he kill a double ? burying the body at sea was so convenient.

    Its very hard to publicly accuse this 'hero' particularly in the mainstream of
    anything other than being a patriot.

    The man who killed Usama bin Laden remembers 9/11



    Published on 11 Sep 2017
    On 'Hannity,' Rob O'Neill reflects on the fight against terror, 16 years later

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    THE TELEGRAPH...

    Osama bin Laden dead: Islamic scholars criticise bin Laden's sea burial

    Muslim clerics said on Monday that Osama bin Laden's burial at sea was a violation
    of Islamic tradition that may further provoke militant calls for revenge attacks
    against American targets.



    The USS Carl Vinson, from where Osama bin Laden was buried at sea Photo:
    WIKIMEDIA COMMONS

    11:06PM BST 02 May 2011

    Although there appears to be some room for debate over the burial – as with many
    issues within the faith – a wide range of Islamic scholars interpreted it as a
    humiliating disregard for the standard Muslim practice of placing the body in a
    grave with the head pointed toward the holy city of Mecca.

    read more..
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ea-burial.html
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    There are about 80 or so 9/11 related videos out there at drum clown's youtube, and a bunch of other stuff uninteresting to me. Many of them contain amateur footage, FDNY / NIST / FEMA / FBI / NORAD stuff, all posted at least four years ago. I haven't watched any of them in a long time and I haven't watched them all. I just want to point out that they exist, for those who may have missed them.

    Here are two selected more or less randomly, with unchanged titles, and with no comment from me:

    911- part 2, the entire rare amateur footage - ,including firefighter FDNY radio tapes



    ALL Boarding Passes Footage from FLIGHT 93, on 911.faxed by UA
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    This is a new take from James Perloff that 9/11 was an outside job, aided and abetted by our government. Very interesting.
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    James Perloff "We Now Know The Names Of The Men Who Planned, Executed & Covered Up 9/11."


    Published on 12 Sep 2017
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    State owned Saudi propaganda tries to blame 9/11 on Iran

    By Andrew Cheetham on 12 September 2017 GMT 9/11,
    Political Manipulation, Useless Media, War and Terror



    State owned Saudi propaganda tries to blame 9/11 on Iran

    The truth is that Iran was among the first countries to condemn 9/11 in an olive branch
    gesture from the anti-Salafist Islamic Republic.

    by Adam Garrie Adam Garrie
    September 10, 2017, 19:17




    ‘State owned Saudi propaganda television channel Al Arabiya is set to release a “documentary”
    produced in the United States which seeks to implicate Iran in the 9/11 attacks whose 16 year
    anniversary will be commemorated this month.

    The preposterously untrue Saudi claims come as new information in a 9/11 related lawsuit accuses
    Saudi officials of financing a “dry run” of 9/11 prior to the commencement of the atrocity.While
    Saudi Arabia has long been implicated as a major architect of the attacks, Riyadh’s state owned
    media is instead trying to shift blame to Iran which no credible source has ever accused of having
    anything to do with 9/11.

    While Iran and the United States no longer have formal diplomatic relations, the Islamic Republic
    of Iran was among the first countries to unequivocally condemn 9/11.’

    Read more: State owned Saudi propaganda tries to blame 9/11 on Iran

    http://theduran.com/state-owned-saud...lame-911-iran/
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    Default Re: 9/11: 16th Anniversary articles, suspects & flying circus // Fairytale of NY videocast

    The last two videos ^^ featured very similar (and very interesting) presentations by James Perloff.

    Here are the two detailed articles that he references:

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    The last two videos ^^ featured very similar (and very interesting) presentations by James Perloff.

    Here are the two detailed articles that he references:
    Thanks Bill. It does look like he has updated these, and good to have a more up to date version of them, for the files.

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    Quote Posted by Satori (here)
    The official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is demonstrably false. On the question of the causes of the destruction of WTC 1, 2 and 7 see, e.g., http://www.journalof911studies.com/r...eyVol40Mar.pdf.
    And this from a former Marine who once supported the "War [of] Terrorism", but who woke up and smelled the coffee.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-0...r-endless-wars
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