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    Default Re: 9/11: 16th Anniversary articles, suspects & flying circus // Fairytale of NY videocast

    - for me the "woman in the tower window" was an eyeopener .
    How could there be temperatures enough to melt steele, and still
    this woman was there, in the building :

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    and a video



    or two

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8sawu1L2ok


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    Default Re: 9/11: 16th Anniversary articles, suspects & flying circus // Fairytale of NY videocast

    Experts Agree 9/11 Was an Inside Job



    Published on 24 Nov 2013
    This is AE911Truth's free 1-hour 9/11 documentary. The reason(s) why
    I "re-uploaded" their video on my channel: in case the original video
    ( https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ddz2mw... ) somehow gets
    deleted or taken down, in case ae911truth's YouTube account gets
    deleted or taken down, and so more people can see this documentary.

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    From D.Ickes Headline page...13/9/17

    Bin Laden Did This? Er, Explain
    By Andrew Cheetham on 13 September 2017 GMT

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg6Z-_IGQ0g
    Published on 11 Sep 2017
    I'll be blunt here: if you think this building fell because of a few fires,
    you are either very stupid or living in denial and afraid to face the truth.

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    NY Times op-ed: Mainstream 9/11 narrative 'totally false,
    literally from the first minutes'

    By Andrew Cheetham on 13 September 2017 GMT 9/11,
    Political Manipulation Problem-Reaction-Solution War and Terror



    NY Times op-ed: Mainstream 9/11 narrative “totally false,
    literally from the first minutes”

    By Kevin Barrett on September 11, 2017

    ‘Today, on the 16th anniversary of the 9/11 neocon coup d’état, the New York
    Times editorial page has published a column by economist Paul Krugman calling the
    official narrative “totally false” – and accusing the Bush-Cheney Administration
    of “rejoicing” at the successful attack on America.

    By Kevin Barrett, Veterans Today Editor

    Today, on the 16th anniversary of the 9/11 neocon coup d’état,
    the New York Times editorial page has published a column by
    economist Paul Krugman calling the official narrative “totally
    false” – and accusing the Bush-Cheney Administration of
    “rejoicing” at the successful attack on America.

    Here is Krugman’s key passage:

    In the weeks and months after the atrocity, news media had a
    narrative about what it meant – basically, that it was a Pearl
    Harbor moment that brought America together with a new
    seriousness and resolve. This was comforting and reassuring.
    It was also totally false, literally from the first minutes.

    The truth, as we now know, is that Bush administration officials
    rejoiced, even as the fires were still burning, at the opportunity
    they now had to fight the unrelated war they always wanted.”

    Krugman does not come right out and say that the Bush-Cheney
    gang “rejoiced” because they were celebrating a successful covert
    operation. Nor does he mention the many Israelis who were even
    more blatantly celebrating their New Pearl Harbor deception:’
    https://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/20...ol-left-region

    Read more: NY Times op-ed: Mainstream 9/11 narrative ‘totally
    false, literally from the first minutes’

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/09/11/911nyt/

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    Default Re: 9/11: 16th Anniversary articles, suspects & flying circus // Fairytale of NY videocast

    Quote - for me the "woman in the tower window" was an eyeopener .
    How could there be temperatures enough to melt steele, and still
    this woman was there, in the building :
    Agreed , it looks like the aftermath of an explosion but I'm not an expert.
    I'm also wary of all the images on the web now a days , but there is no
    sign of a plane in the hole , did it disintegrate ? then you go around
    in circles again.






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    Added later after found this vid...

    The Real Deal: How were the gashes in the Twin Towers made?



    Published on 26 Mar 2017m Fetzer/Steve De'ak - "The Real Deal" How were the
    gashes in the Twin Towers Jim Fetzer was kind enough to have me on his show
    for the second time, this time to discuss the writing on the wall of the World Trade Center. 1-hour.
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    Default Re: 9/11: 16th Anniversary articles, suspects & flying circus // Fairytale of NY videocast

    IMO, we need to pay a lot more attention to what David Icke has been saying to us humans of the world,
    whether we want to hear it or not.
    Pay attention, check it out and decide, even if you heard it before, listen again and analyze our position
    as we are, even now after all that has gone before.
    Think clearly when awake at night or in quiet times, but think...
    We may be waking up or not or not enough.
    But please THINK.....

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    Default Re: 9/11: 16th Anniversary articles, suspects & flying circus // Fairytale of NY videocast

    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
    Quote - for me the "woman in the tower window" was an eyeopener .
    How could there be temperatures enough to melt steele, and still
    this woman was there, in the building :
    Agreed , it looks like the aftermath of an explosion but I'm not an expert.
    I'm also wary of all the images on the web now a days , but there is no
    sign of a plane in the hole , did it disintegrate ? then you go around
    in circles again.




    This is one of the most compelling and heart-wrenching photos of that time and place. Hell and damnation to those responsible.

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    Default Re: 9/11: 16th Anniversary articles, suspects & flying circus // Fairytale of NY videocast

    - this do belong here :

    " On the tenth anniversary of the Attacks of September 11th, 2001,
    expert witnesses gathered at Ryerson University in Toronto, Canada to provide evidence-based research that called into question the official story of 9/11. This was known as The Toronto Hearings on 9/11.
    Over a period of four days, these experts in Structural Engineering, Physics, Chemistry, and History gave researched and professional testimony to an international panel of distinguished judges. The panel of judges, in conjunction with the steering committee would go on to publish their final analysis of the evidence provided, which called for a new investigation into the Attacks of September 11th, 2001."



    " This film is a summary of the strongest evidence given over the four days of hearings. To see the hearings in their entirety please visit" :
    http://torontohearings.org/ or read the final report available on the aforementioned website. For more info on The Toronto Hearings on 9/11 visit: http://torontohearings.org/ http://pressfortruth.ca/top-stories/t... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpiVv...
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    Default Re: 9/11: 16th Anniversary articles, suspects & flying circus // Fairytale of NY videocast

    - a symbol, perfectly cut from one of the towers :

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    Two interviews from the Jef Rense show 9/11 2017 , the hour is with Prof James
    Fetzer followed in the second hour with Robert Morningstar.....

    Jeff & Prof James Fetzer - America Was Nuked On 9/11



    Published on 13 Sep 2017...Hour 1
    The Jeff Rense Radio Archives contain interviews with over 18,000 people
    over a period of 24 years. Access and listen to some of the most stunning
    people of our times in often unforgettable interviews just like this one.

    ===================================================

    Jeff & Robert Morningstar - A Torrent Of 9/11 Truth

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofj4rLXIFbM


    Published on 13 Sep 2017...2nd hour

    The Jeff Rense Radio Archives contain interviews with over 18,000 people over a
    period of 24 years. Access and listen to some of the most stunning people of our
    times in often unforgettable interviews just like this one.

    ====================================================

    Jeff and Jim reference Wm.Roderiguez.


    9/11 Survivor Questions Official Story on local Fox News

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIC0Kl4TKoU

    Published on 17 May 2007
    William Rodriguez, the "Last Man Standing" on 9/11, appeared on Fox News in
    Boston, MA. He talked about explosions in the basement, before the plane hit, as
    well as secondary explosions occurring. Mr. Rodriguez also takes the time to
    mention the media blackout in the United States on 9/11 Truth issues.

    ====================================================

    William Rodriguez interview, CNN, 13:33, 9/11

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQk3XXBot9c
    Published on 12 Jul 2008
    William Rodriguez interview, CNN, 13:33, 9/11
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Rosie O'Donnell & William Rodriguez: We Need 9/11 Truth Now!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTL_I_LhddY
    Published on 13 Sep 2008
    http://prisonplanet.tv/

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    William Rodriguez talks to RT international 720p 30fps H264 192kbit AAC



    published. 2013

    ‘Saudis are probably afraid or trying to ignore us’ – 9/11 survivor William Rodriguez
    - The US Senate has approved a bill allowing the families of 9/11 victims to file law
    suits against Saudi Arabia over the country's alleged role in the terror attacks and
    its involvement in supporting the attackers.

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    9/11 survivor censored by media

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ck3VBAKxznw
    Published on 8 Sep 2011

    William Rodriguez was a survivor pulled from the Twin Towers on 9/11. Rodriguez
    was a janitor there for almost 20 years. He joined the effort to pull survivors from
    the rubble and recalls pulling people out of the Twin Towers. Rodriguez helped the
    fire department unlock doors and shares his how the mainstream media has turned
    its back on him.

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    9/11 EyeWitnesses To WTC Lobby Explosion - NIST FOIA

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W1HlV9O65w

    Published on 18 Oct 2010
    Witnesses from the 82nd floor talk about making their way down WTC 2 building to
    exit after the plane hit. Once they reach the 4th floor they experience a big
    explosion from the lobby.

    "Next thing we know we had to get out of the building. We were stuck on the stairs
    for a while, we finally got down to the lobby, then when we get to the lobby there
    was this big explosion."

    911datasets International Center for­­ 9/11 Studies FOIA NIST Cumulus Video
    Database WABC

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    Raw Footage of Barry Jennings Interview

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XOK-r80nr8
    live 0n 9/11
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    Default Re: 9/11: 16th Anniversary articles, suspects & flying circus // Fairytale of NY videocast

    911: Who was Responsible and Why - Jim Fetzer, Ph.D. with Brian Ruhe



    Published on 2 Jun 2017

    Jim Fetzer gives a great, thorough slide show presentation on 911 with the host,
    Brian Ruhe. He explains the no planes evidence with close up photos of the ghost,
    holographic plane at 1:07:00 going into the building instead of breaking up on the
    outside, according to the laws of physics.

    Jim also explains who and why, with the evidence that Israel and the Jews within
    the Bush government planned 911. This is a first class talk! You can buy Jim's books
    at: http://moonrockbooks.com . Get his book, America Nuked on 911, co-authored
    with Mike Palecek.

    Jim Fetzer, a former Marine Corps officer, has published widely on the theoretical
    foundations of scientific knowledge, computer science, artificial intelligence, cognitive
    science, and evolution and mentality. A magna cum laude graduate of Princeton who
    majored in philosophy, he earned his Ph.D. in the history and philosophy of science.
    He has received many awards and forms of recognition for his teaching and scholarship.
    McKnight Professor Emeritus at the University of Minnesota Duluth, he has also conducted
    extensive research into the assassination of JFK, the events of 9/11, and the plane crash
    that killed US Sen. Paul Wellstone. The founder of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, his latest
    books include The Evolution of Intelligence (2005), The 9/11 Conspiracy (2007), Render
    Unto Darwin (2007), and The Place of Probability in Science (2010).

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    Jim Fetzer and Steve De'ak discuss 9/11: Who was Responsible and Why - June 16, 2017

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALPZqq3tW3U

    Published on 20 Jun 2017

    A friendly rebuttal from Steve De'ak regarding Jim Fetzer's Video "911:
    Who was Responsible and Why"

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    Default Re: 9/11: 16th Anniversary articles, suspects & flying circus // Fairytale of NY videocast

    David talks mainly about 9/11 and the continuing deception and finishes with
    an update on the mail article on Edward Heath.



    Published on 15 Sep 2017
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    Click here http://www.davidicke.com/register
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    Default Re: 9/11: 16th Anniversary articles, suspects & flying circus // Fairytale of NY videocast

    Quote Posted by noxon medem (here)
    - a symbol, perfectly cut from one of the towers :

    Attachment 36189

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    Columns with pre-welded wind girders were used extensively in WTC7. Columns with pre-welded stubs for connecting floor beams were used extensively in WTC6

    There is nothing remarkable about this piece. I guarantee that close inspection will show factory welds.

    The chance of this happening during the collapse is zero.

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    Quote Posted by winstonsmith (here)
    Quote Posted by noxon medem (here)
    - a symbol, perfectly cut from one of the towers :

    Attachment 36189

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    Columns with pre-welded wind girders were used extensively in WTC7. Columns with pre-welded stubs for connecting floor beams were used extensively in WTC6

    There is nothing remarkable about this piece. I guarantee that close inspection will show factory welds.

    The chance of this happening during the collapse is zero.
    .?.

    And we see the holes in the steel, from some iron rivets connecting it to a beam .

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    Not all connecting beams were welded (?)

    In older steele boats they used rivoting because of flexibility .

    - see your angle though

    :- )
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    Default Re: 9/11: 16th Anniversary articles, suspects & flying circus // Fairytale of NY videocast

    A follow up discussion with Jim Fetzer:


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    Quote Posted by yankee451 (here)
    A follow up discussion with Jim Fetzer:

    Steve,

    One word answers please. Easy.

    1. How many missiles did it take to create the Shanksville gash?
    2. Was any actual plane debris found buried in the gash?
    3. Did witnesses see a plane flying upside down near this alleged impact point?
    4. Did any witness see a plane plunge toward the ground, already in distress, trailing smoke?

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    Default Re: 9/11: 16th Anniversary articles, suspects & flying circus // Fairytale of NY videocast

    1. Depends
    2. Possibly
    3. Allegedly
    4. Ditto.

    Can the gash be reproduced by anyone with two projectiles and an explosive, yes or no?
    Can it be reproduced with a plane, yes or no? If yes, please explain.
    Witnesses also allegedly heard and saw missiles. Are they lying? Why would they lie? Does the damage indicate they are correct or does it indicate the witnesses who reported a large jet are correct?

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