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    Sadly are the chemtrails damaging for the o-zonelayer too.

    Solar radiation management as a substitute for the o-zonelayer.
    SRM has nothing to do with global warming or reflecting sunlight.
    The R stands for radiation.
    The o-zone layer was responsible for the filtering of harmful radiation.
    But the o-zonelayer has failed.


    http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/fea...d_avoided.html
    Mar 18, 2009 ... The ozone layer over the far northern hemisphere -- once relatively robust ... Nearly two-thirds of Earth's ozone is gone -- not just over the poles, ...


    There are other chemtrails with an other task.
    Weather manipulation through geoengineering.

    Those chemtrails are seeded to counterbalance severe weather-fronts.
    To accelerate a front is possible too.
    We have weather warfare now.

    Chemtrails we see being seeded above land,
    where protection is needed.
    Those trails are placed for solar radiation management.

    The o-zone-layer offers insufficient protection.
    We see programs to substitute the o-zone-layer in place at the pole regions.

    South sees them in Argentine and Australia and in the north, are the nothern country's involved.
    Europe, Canada and USA, Russia and even China too.

    Nasa keeps records of the daily aerosols.
    Every day new satelitepictures where you can see it all.

    https://worldview.earthdata.nasa.gov...,55.9951171875

    Go to add layers if you want to add aerosol dept or something.
    The trails for weather-modification are for western europe seeded above the Atlantic ocean, under Iceland near Ireland.

    To stop a front is one chemtrail enough.
    That is not the case in order to protect the earth against damaging levels of radiation.
    Those chemtrails are themselves very damaging too.

    It even has accelerated the diminishing of what was left of the o-zenelayer.
    Once we started there was turning back.
    We can't stop spraying now.

    What goes up has to come down.
    Down it comes on farmland where cows eat daily a fresh layer of aluminum-oxide, barium and strontium.

    All the poison that is not leaving the cow the natural way, stays in the cow.
    Accumulating in flesh and grease to poisonous levels themselves.
    Humans are at the end on the food pyramid.

    Those of us who eat those cows who have been served poison, are eating poison, poisoning themselves.
    It will add up. It will store in greasy parts of our body's giving breast cancer, lymph cancer, brain-cancer, intestines- and a whole arrange of other kind of cancers.

    Not to spray would reveal a lot of skin-cancer after a while.
    It could be many years away and meanwhile we could take measures, like stay indoors and use sunscreen.
    But our food-supply would not survive.

    Trees show radiation sickness by showing dead branches.
    Like the tree has retreated with dead sticks sticking out everywhere.

    Like the poor tree is sticking it's dead hands out, in complete submission.

    A hard thing to watch.
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    Elana Freeland is one legitimate authority (among many) on the phenomenon. She's a good place to start. It is a hugely complex problem with a myriad of causes and effects, serving a host of purposes. I strongly recommend listening to what she has to say about chemtrails.

    Here's one link ...

    https://chemtrailsnorthnz.wordpress....rum-dominance/

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    I know about HAARP.
    Haarp uses chemtrails too.
    Or can make use of chemtrails should I say.

    We are not dealing with HAARP here.
    Not a 3d over the horizon, 3d battle situation radar gadget.
    Nothing complicated.

    Chemtrails make a sunscreen.

    HAARP has a multi use.
    Certain frequencies can alter the mindset.

    But it's not the screen we are dealing with on a daily bases.

    It's easy to see when HAARP is in use,
    due to the large amount of electricity that is being used.

    Haarp can change the weather too.
    Haarp can make a rocket-shield, by burning holes in the stratosphere.
    Air is then lifted from 30 km altitude to 300 km altitude.

    There it can catch ballistic rockets.
    Those travel with Mach 20 or more, so will burn when they encounter a pillar of air.

    When a rocket hits a column of air with the speed of Mach 20 or more,
    it will burn itself to destruction due the friction of the air it encounters.

    There are many types of contrails, and a variety of purposes can be served.

    Weather modification is a local event, tactical so to say.
    Where one chemtrail can alter a weather-front.

    The strategic spraying is done all around the northern and southern parts of the earth around the pole regions.

    In the south we see chemtrails in New Seeland, South Africa, Chile etc.
    In North we see them in the USA, Russia, Europe, Canada and China.

    It is nothing exotic.
    No difficult stuff to understand.

    Forget a 3d live picture of a battlefield situation from ar over the horizon radar.
    Forget HAARP
    Forget weather modification.
    Anything else then SRM is destraction.

    It all exists, but it's not where we are dealing with on a daily bases.
    We are poisoned, by aluminum -oxide, barium and strontium containing chemtrails.

    Those chemtrails are responsible for the milky high haze.

    We dont see these chemtrails placed above the oceans.
    Geoengineering and weather modification is done above water too.

    The substitution for the Ozon-layer is only seeded above land or close the shore.

    Don't look to far,
    Don't think to complicated.
    It's nothing difficult or high-tec.
    It's a huge worldwide sunscreen filter.
    To block radiation.

    The ozon problem was around the poles, wasn 't it?

    We were told that the O-zone-problem had resolved itself.
    But we know they do lie.

    We hear nothing about o-zone anymore.

    Do you really believe that the o-zone problem has suddenly gone away.
    That's a lie !
    It has become worse to the point beyond repair.

    Now we need help.
    Artificial help, a artificial ozon-layer. a artificial filter, a sunscreen.

    It is what it is, it's what it looks like.
    A huge sunscreen.

    Haarp is not the reason why chemtrails are seeded.
    HAARP is weather modification with chemtrails, warfare purposes, mind control(certain frequencies)

    But does not stand the guilty test.

    The O-zone layers have diminished to dangerous levels.
    Skin-cancer will rise in the charts.

    The reason they spray is to substitute the o-zone layer.

    All we see on youtube, are again and again the same bunch of people.

    So called dis-info agents.

    Placed to lead the opposition.
    Preventive damage control.

    To control the opposition , it's best to lead them yourself.

    Whatever they come up with is not the real reason.
    If one of them names SRM or Solar Radiation Management,
    they add sunlight reflection to it, or global heating.
    Just to distract.

    When you find out it's not anti global warming and not sunlight reflection,
    you will dismiss Solar Radiation Management as a whole.
    So there mission is accomplished.

    An other trick is to make it so complicated, so the majority of ordinary common people will drop the subject.
    Feeling that they are not informed enough so they can not judge the matter.
    It's nothing complicated.

    It's a simple sunscreen, a ordinary filter.
    Just what you thought it was , the first time you noticed them.

    Since then you have heard numerous explanations, so you lost track.
    Now you are probable no that sure anymore.
    Their mission, again successful.

    Don't let them fool you.
    You were probably right the very first time.

    The high haze is blocking the sun('s radiation).
    Nothing more nothing less.

    Keep it simple.
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    Default Re: Chemtrails is primarily the new ozone layer

    @sweety. You have a lot of information there. Where did you find it?

    A few examples for you to address for us:
    Quote HAARP has a multi use.
    Certain frequencies can alter the mindset.
    What frequencies and how?

    Quote It's easy to see when HAARP is in use,
    due to the large amount of electricity that is being used.
    That's one way I guess, but not sure how you'd actually do that. The much simpler way is to tune a short-wave radio and listen to it. Here are some HAARP recordings made by radio enthusiasts.

    Quote We dont see these chemtrails placed above the oceans.
    Geoengineering and weather modification is done above water too.
    How do you know this if we don't see them over the oceans, yet weather modification is done above water?

    Anyway, welcome to the forum. But remember many members appreciate links to supporting evidence of claims made in posts.

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    If the purpose of weather modification was to construct an artificial ozone layer, (save the planet), why do you think they would use such toxic chemicals, (kill the planet), to do so?

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    Quote Posted by Ewan (here)
    If the purpose of weather modification was to construct an artificial ozone layer, (save the planet), why do you think they would use such toxic chemicals, (kill the planet), to do so?
    And where on earth are they obtaining all this material, processing it distributing it without anyone I know or who knows anyone I know having anything to do with it? Presumably it's a massive international industry.

    So who knows someone who knows someone involved in this? It must involve thousands of people all over the world between the stages from obtaining the materials to loading the aircraft. Not to mention the maintenance of this massive truck and aircraft fleet - all taking off and landing somewhere.
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    @ Ewan
    If the purpose of weather modification was to construct an artificial ozone layer, (save the planet), why do you think they would use such toxic chemicals, (kill the planet), to do so?

    Weather modification is done with other kind of chemtrails then the milky sunscreen makers use as chemtrail.
    It 's SRM Solar Radiation Management. Against radiation, like o-zonelayer against radiation.
    Has nothing to do with weather modification.
    Weather modification is not that poisonous, for west Europeit's mainly done over sea.
    Contrary-to the sunscreen chemtrails wich make the aluminum dome of the milky haze.

    I always double check before I post something.
    One witness is no witness.

    Quote We dont see these chemtrails placed above the oceans.
    Geoengineering and weather modification is done above water too.
    How do you know this if we don't see them over the oceans, yet weather modification is done above water?

    I said there are different kinds of chemtrails.
    They can stop a storm, make a storm, preventing it's going to rain, and make sure it does rain.

    I placed the link of the nasa satelite photo's.

    But my focus is on the milky sunscreen we get to see.

    Sure thing is HAARP measurable, just like the woodpecker signal could be picked up.

    https://www.google.nl/search?num=100...k1.yXaqXXJPZAM

    When the spiral in Norway appeared, electricity use went from 10% to over 90%
    Sure thing there is a huge spike to see on the graphic of the national electricity use.

    Just use google...
    For the HAARP and mindcontrol, I suggest;

    https://www.google.nl/search?num=100...w=1033&bih=674

    But as I said, HAARP has a multi use.

    https://www.google.nl/search?num=100....0.x9kFoxFyt7Q

    https://www.google.nl/search?q=haarp...XSHMOfaIqts4AD

    I will keep in mind to place the source next time.
    I want to see proof too if strange claims are made.
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    Quote Posted by Nick Matkin (here)
    @sweety. You have a lot of information there. Where did you find it?

    A few examples for you to address for us:
    Quote HAARP has a multi use.
    Certain frequencies can alter the mindset.
    What frequencies and how?

    Quote It's easy to see when HAARP is in use,
    due to the large amount of electricity that is being used.
    That's one way I guess, but not sure how you'd actually do that. The much simpler way is to tune a short-wave radio and listen to it. Here are some HAARP recordings made by radio enthusiasts.

    Quote We dont see these chemtrails placed above the oceans.
    Geoengineering and weather modification is done above water too.
    How do you know this if we don't see them over the oceans, yet weather modification is done above water?

    Anyway, welcome to the forum. But remember many members appreciate links to supporting evidence of claims made in posts.
    Q:How do you know this if we don't see them over the oceans, yet weather modification is done above water?
    A:Satellite pictures from nasa, see link above.


    HAARP?
    I wrote;
    Forget HAARP
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    Sophia Smallstorm has a great documentary about chemtrails i highly recommend everyone to watch.

    part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSQ-dp1sV5w


    part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18IepieChOU
    She explains it very well.

    Researcher Harald Kautz fills in some gaps
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6URg8cqgZM
    (search youtube for more on Harald Kautz, like his excellent black goo video.)


    I like these documentaries too, less informative, but great to spread around to the general clueless population:

    "Why in the world are they spraying" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEfJO0-cTis


    and

    "What in the world are they spraying" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFQ2_0QNiks


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    Quote Sure thing is HAARP measurable, just like the woodpecker signal could be picked up.
    I was involved in analysing the Soviet Woodpecker signal. It was over-the-horizon radio radar pulses. No data on it (and boy did we look for that!) just incredibly powerful ERP calculated in the tens of megawatts. Nothing sinister; not mind controlling, no weather effects just very disruptive (inadvertently, but the Soviets didn't care) to all manner of HF communications - even their own.

    Quote When the spiral in Norway appeared, electricity use went from 10% to over 90%
    Sure thing there is a huge spike to see on the graphic of the national electricity use.
    Interesting if true - but where did this information come from? Actually, that would be very difficult for any national grid to cope with, and wouldn't go unreported in the technical journals. Was it sudden, or was it a gradual build up? And for how long? And where was the extra load for all this consumption switched to? Did it also spread to Sweden?

    I have Manning and Begich 'Angels don't Play This HAARP'. That's £12 and 10 hours I'll never see again!
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    Quote Posted by Nick Matkin (here)
    Quote Sure thing is HAARP measurable, just like the woodpecker signal could be picked up.
    I was involved in analysing the Soviet Woodpecker signal. It was over-the-horizon radio radar pulses. No data on it (and boy did we look for that!) just incredibly powerful ERP calculated in the tens of megawatts. Nothing sinister; not mind controlling, no weather effects just very disruptive (inadvertently, but the Soviets didn't care) to all manner of HF communications - even their own.

    Quote When the spiral in Norway appeared, electricity use went from 10% to over 90%
    Sure thing there is a huge spike to see on the graphic of the national electricity use.
    Interesting if true - but where did this information come from? Actually, that would be very difficult for any national grid to cope with, and wouldn't go unreported in the technical journals. Was it sudden, or was it a gradual build up? And for how long? And where was the extra load for all this consumption switched to? Did it also spread to Sweden?
    The topic ain't HAARP

    It was a sharp spike.
    No visual build-up.
    I saw only the electricity use of Norway, so I can' t say anything about Sweden' s electricity.
    I' ll try to find the paperwork in the next few days.
    It' s true alright, there is no contradiction.
    Haarp is known for their huge use of electricity.
    The ElSCAT Haarp facilety in Norway is no exception.

    I guess the electricity only spiked as the spiral was visual.
    More common sense then knowledge.

    With google you could find out yourself.
    You have 09-12-2009, HAARP , Elscat, Norway, spiral, add ""electricity use"" or something.

    That' s how my search would start.
    I know it' s true alright.
    It' s something to easy to proof otherwise.

    Quote:
    Interesting if true - but where did this information come from? Actually, that would be very difficult for any national grid to cope with, and wouldn't go unreported in the technical journals.
    Unqoute;

    The grid did cope and the spike was picked up by the techy-nerds.
    I could not have known if they didn' t report on it.
    ( Just can't find those ""They"" right now, need some time for it)

    Begich writes about HAARP as a investigating journalist.
    Not as a specialist, tells Begich in his own words.

    Quote
    A few examples for you to address for us:
    Quote HAARP has a multi use.
    Certain frequencies can alter the mindset.
    What frequencies and how?
    Unquote


    In your own reply you can even find that HAARP has a multi use (audio HAARP)
    Can't say fore sure, what frequencies alter the mindset.
    I can imagine some armies would like to use haarp mindcontrol as a weapon, without encountering such effects themselves.
    A lot has been written about HAARP and mindcontrol, but I lack the details.

    The topic ain't HAARP
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    This seems like a clear article explaining chemtrailing and what's going on.

    It's another fairly shrewd piece from Hard Dawn.com

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    Just for anyone looking in this is a interesting post from the chemtrail
    thread. Whether you believe they are happening ? , to what extent ?
    or its just air pollution ? They are not conventional 1 min contrails.

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1091277
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------



    ==============================================
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    UK Met Office kills 35 people in rainmaking experiments- Lynmouth 1952.

    Broadcast 2001.....If any one still believes weather modification is not possible
    and its very probably been going on since WW11 in ever improved programmes
    is in denial even the BBC exposed it back in 2001. Actually there were some very
    good BBC docs about various subjects that are now considered conspiracy theories....



    BBC Radio 4 'Document' programme on UK/US Weather Modification Experiments

    Published on 30 Aug 2015
    'The day they made it rain' - BBC Radio 4 documentary on Weather Modification,
    broadcast on 30th August 2001. On August 15th 1952, one of the worst flash floods
    ever to have occurred in Britain swept through the Devon village of Lynmouth.
    Thirty five people died as a torrent of 90 million tons of water and thousands of
    tons of rock poured off saturated Exmoor and into the village destroying homes,
    bridges, shops and hotels.
    The disaster was officially termed "the hand of God" but new evidence from
    previously classified government files suggests that a team of international
    scientists working with the RAF and UK met office had been experimenting in the
    area with artificial rainmaking between August 4th and August 15th. These
    experiments are known as Operation Cumulus, or Operation Witchdoctor as known
    by RAF pilots.
    Other classified documents on the trials have gone missing, but eye witnesses and
    people involved have told their story for this BBC Radio Four' Document programme.

    Climate engineering references:
    Owning the weather by 2025:
    http://csat.au.af.mil/2025/volume3/vo...

    The House Of Commons Regulation On Geoengineering:
    http://www.publications.parliament.uk...

    The Solar Radiation Management Government Initiative:
    http://www.srmgi.org/

    List of United States Government Weather Modification Patents going back to as far as the 1920's :
    http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/li...


    Aurora Flight Sciences:
    http://r3zn8d.files.wordpress.com/201... ( Link Not Available )

    Geoengineering legitimised by the IPCC :
    http://www.theguardian.com/science/po...( Link Not Available )

    United Nations Weather Weapon Treaty:
    http://www.cooperazioneallosviluppo.e... ( Link Not Available )


    A must see documentary explaining whats going on in our skies ( Link Not Available )

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0fBc... ( Link Not Available )


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    Sound quality not good but is audible...



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    A little over dramatic as these shows can be, but at the end Nick Pope mentions
    that documents concerning whether modification has gone missing, conspiracy to
    hide the truth or just another coincidence theory ?

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    Quote Posted by Nick Matkin (here)
    This seems like a clear article explaining chemtrailing and what's going on.

    It's another fairly shrewd piece from Hard Dawn.com
    Son of a ......, I was briefly peeved with you there Nick but now I see the funny side all of 60 seconds later. :D

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    Quote Posted by Ewan (here)
    If the purpose of weather modification was to construct an artificial ozone layer, (save the planet), why do you think they would use such toxic chemicals, (kill the planet), to do so?

    The purpose of ¨solar RADIATION management¨ is not weather-modification.

    The chemtrails turn in to a sunscreen filter to protect earth against (uv) radiation.

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    Quote The purpose of ¨solar RADIATION management¨ is not weather-modification.
    The chemtrails turn in to a sunscreen filter to protect earth against (uv) radiation.
    Why does earth now need protection from UV radiation?

    Is there any evidence of its effectiveness?
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    Quote Posted by Nick Matkin (here)
    Quote The purpose of ¨solar RADIATION management¨ is not weather-modification.
    The chemtrails turn in to a sunscreen filter to protect earth against (uv) radiation.
    Why does earth now need protection from UV radiation?

    Is there any evidence of its effectiveness?
    -They're harmful for flora and fauna.
    Burned leaves, leave loss leads to crop losses and food shortage.
    For humans we see an connection between skin-cancer and uv radiation.

    -Hard to tell.
    The chemtrails (programs) do not exist officially.
    There can 't be a result from something that does not exist.
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