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    Default Senators unveil anti-WikiLeaks bill

    http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-va...ks-legislation


    Quote Sens. John Ensign (R-Nev.), Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) and Scott Brown (R-Mass.) introduced a bill Thursday aimed at stopping WikiLeaks by making it illegal to publish the names of military or intelligence community informants.

    Ensign accused WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange and his "cronies" of hindering America's war efforts and creating a "hit list" for U.S. enemies by outing intelligence sources.

    “Our sources are bravely risking their lives when they stand up against the tyranny of al Qaeda, the Taliban and murderous regimes, and I simply will not stand idly by as they become death targets because of Julian Assange," Ensign said. "Let me be very clear, WikiLeaks is not a whistleblower website and Assange is not a journalist.”

    Assange has been under fire in recent weeks thanks to his site's dissemination of thousands of classified diplomatic cables, some of which have proved embarrassing to the Obama administration because of their frank tone. Attorney General Eric Holder recently pledged to close gaps in the law that allow sites like WikiLeaks to continue to operate.

    The Securing Human Intelligence and Enforcing Lawful Dissemination Act (SHIELD) would give the government the flexibility to pursue Assange for allegedly outing confidential U.S. informants. Brown said the law would prevent anyone from compromising national security in a similar manner, while Lieberman said its passage was essential to restore the international diplomatic community's faith in the U.S.
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    Default Re: Senators unveil anti-WikiLeaks bill

    Doesn't make much sense to me. How does US law apply to an Australian guy who is operating out of Europe?

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    Default Re: Senators unveil anti-WikiLeaks bill

    I thinks its the whole organization they are targeting not just JA

    interesting they came up with "Sheild"

    Here is said Act...." Securing Human Intelligence and Enforcing Lawful Dissemination Act (SHIELD) "

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/44561925/Shield-Act

    Im wondering what this all means for "whistleblower" sites in general....
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    Quote The Securing Human Intelligence and Enforcing Lawful Dissemination Act (SHIELD) would give the government the flexibility to pursue Assange for allegedly outing confidential U.S. informants. Brown said the law would prevent anyone from compromising national security in a similar manner, while Lieberman said its passage was essential to restore the international diplomatic community's faith in the U.S.
    So the key to restoring faith in the U.S. is to prevent the nasty things we do behind closed doors from being leaked?

    How about just being less underhanded?

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    Seriously, when people gripe about increasingly less privacy on the web guys like Eric Schmidt just say matter a factly, "If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place."Screw double standards for anyone.
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    Default Re: Senators unveil anti-WikiLeaks bill

    Securing Human Intelligence and Enforcing Lawful Dissemination Act (SHIELD), was an interesting read, I had to read it a few times to try and understand which bits had been swapped or changed for other bits.... Still confusing for me.
    Do I understand this correctly that, " any mechanical or electrical device or method used for the purpose of disguising or concealing the contents, significance, or meanings of communications ", means any data encryted by anyone and not just disclosing of millitary documents?

    I read it that we are no longer allowed to pass our own encrypted files to anyone, pgp encrypted or whatever cipher chosen??

    Can someone advise me on this please.

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    Default Re: Senators unveil anti-WikiLeaks bill

    they are attempting to present him with a court order making it illegal for him NOT to provide them with the encryption key

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    ahead of the masses of course so they can go through it before the public find out what's in the "insurance" files

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    @ Ammit , im looking into this, running it past some legal peoples, will update when i know more........

    It's a pity we cant get them for all the spying and data mining they do on us, there is no such thing as privacy.
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    Default Re: Senators unveil anti-WikiLeaks bill

    Quote Posted by Samothrace (here)
    So the key to restoring faith in the U.S. is to prevent the nasty things we do behind closed doors from being leaked?

    How about just being less underhanded?

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    Seriously, when people gripe about increasingly less privacy on the web guys like Eric Schmidt just say matter a factly, "If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place."Screw double standards for anyone.

    Well said...... if the truth isn't good enough.....what is?

    Secrets in the global political/military arena are corrosive

    it's about time they stopped

    I know some people wll think this is a naive view of reality

    but

    maybe Wikileaks is a step towards more honest dealings

    between the nations of this fairly small planet of ours



    on-line petition in support of Wikileaks

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    Default Re: Senators unveil anti-WikiLeaks bill

    If it is true that they are trying to pass a bill making it illegal for Assange not to provide them with an encrypton key then the bill is in effect an Ex Post Facto law, i.e. trying to put in place a law that would make actions committed in the past a crime. This is one of the grievances that the US Founding Fathers had against the Crown and was part of the reason the Revolutionary War was fought. But then - what the hell, as Bush II ostensibly said the Constitution is just a f*****g piece of paper - and this same Congress just allowed itself to be blackmailed out of $23 trillion dollars by the banksters two years ago - what do they care about something as petty as the Constitution and Rule of Law???!!

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    Default Re: Senators unveil anti-WikiLeaks bill

    from our good friend Sorchal Faal...

    Quote WikiLeaks Set To Reveal US-UFO War In Southern Ocean
    Quote A new report circulating in the Kremlin today prepared for President Medvedev by Russian Space Forces (VKS) 45th Division of Space Control says that an upcoming WikiLeaks release of secret US cables details that the Americans have been “engaged” since 2004 in a “war” against UFO’s based on or near the Continent of Antarctica, particularly the Southern Ocean.

    According to this report, the United States went to its highest alert level on June 10, 2004 after a massive fleet of UFO’s [photo 2nd left, click for video here] “suddenly emerged” from the Southern Ocean and approached Guadalajara, Mexico barely 1,600 kilometers (1,000 miles) from the American border. Prior to reaching the US border, however, this massive UFO fleet is said in this report to have “dimensionally returned” to their Southern Ocean “home base”.

    The fears of the Americans regarding these Southern Ocean UFO’s began, this report says, during the unprecedented events of July 11, 1991 (referred to as 7/11) when during the Solar Eclipse these mysterious aircraft appeared by the hundreds over nearly all of Mexico, even their Capital city. Most notable about the events of 7/11 were that as millions of Mexicans were watching on their televisions the National broadcasts [click for video here] of these UFO’s over Mexico City, the American media refused to allow their people to view it.

    Since 2004, this report continues, fleets of Southern Ocean UFO’s have continued to emerge from their bases, with the latest such event being this Friday past when another of their massive fleets was sighted over the South American Nation of Chile.

    The “immediate danger” to our World when these massive UFO fleets emerge from the Southern Ocean, this report warns, are the massive waves caused by their sudden eruption from what are believed to be their underwater base, or bases. In the past week alone, the Clelia II, an Antarctic cruise ship with 160 people onboard, was nearly capsized [click here to see video] when hit by waves generated by these UFO’s emerging from the Southern Ocean, and just today the Number One Insung has been reported sunk with only 20 of its 42 member crew said saved due to the same cause.


    think how much fun Sorcha is going to have... only has to say he was given the encryption key and these stories can roll on forever...
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    I liked the movie V for Vendetta


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