Jim Humble update

[Swami]

Posted by David1 (here)
Hello,
I answered already more than 1.000 emails on MMS in French since I translated the 2 books of Jim in 2008.
People are getting cured from many problems everyday.

But for sure many don't understand things right, and I have to explain them again by email.
So many don't read the books (even the free) one, and start questioning; I have to tell them to read the book and re-read it, because everything is in it !

For example Malawi state got 100% cure on Malaria when they conducted tests with MMS, who talked about in the International Organization and comitties to fight Malaria ?? Nobody is interested to cure any desease except Jim, he is the only one to publicised a cheap and efficient solution ! A solution that anyone can make himself by buying the raw chemical !!!!

Honestly, have you ever seen somebody promoting a product that you can make yourself, and going in poor countries to promote it there.
Giving it for free there. No I have never seen such act of charity by an individual person, except priests or nones.
Why is he going to such difficult countries if he was looking for money ? Why not staying in rich countries and promoting his book daily on radio and newspapers, and starting to sell bottles of product himself ? He could make 100 times more money this way !
AND do you think that you are going to give the recipe of your fantastic product if you want to make money out of it ? NO ! Even soda and burger recipes are kept secret to protect the business !
Anyway everyone should make his or her own opinion by trying or asking to someone who tried already, that the only way to be convinced, buy seeing by your own eyes.

Anyway the proof is in the pudding, it costs just a few dollars to try, much less than to buy the toxic drugs the doctors force you to take, and results are spectaculary in most cases, unless the person didn't follow the instructions.

By the way I translated already the first 20 minutes of the interview in French, and it's here, if there is any francophone here: http://lemineralmiracle.com/
Thanks and good luck,
David

PS: Collecting the money from the sales of the Part 2 book in French for Jim, I can say that it's not much money !
Not enough to live under Western standard ! You better stay in a Third World country if you want to eat enough with such small money !

Well Sir,

Could you please take a look at the images I posted in this thread....??

Is this the stuff Humble is talking about...??

I have NEVER used MMS but in case of emergency I WILL........

[kevlor]

swami

this is the site for you to get all the info about MMS2 http://jimhumble.biz/index.htm

plus any other info on MMS1 ... kev

[David1]

@swami:
I am using only MMS 1, the sodium chlorite that we activate with citric acid.
Being healthy since using MMS 1, I never needed to buy MMS 2, so I have no personal experience at buying some.

Looking at your pictures, yes it is written Calcium Hypochlorite, so it is the right product !
After that being said, being in your place, I would check if it is a pure one.

Of course people swim in the water pool, so any product used in swiming pool must be food grade (pure enough), because it happens that swimers ingest some of the treated water.
So I think pool products can be ingested and used.

But be sure that it is only Calcium Hypochlorite before using it. Call the manufacturer and tell us what he said.

For example, in France, where I am now, I can't find pure Calcium Hypochlorite in shops !!
All products for water pool cleaning are mixes of several chemicals, and none is pure calcium hypochlorite !!

Hope this helps,
David

PS: You can read here that Jim uses products for swiming pools, so it seems OK with yours
http://jimhumble.biz/biz-mms2intro-eng.htm

[Wood]

Posted by David1 (here)
For example, in France, where I am now, I can't find pure Calcium Hypochlorite in shops !!
All products for water pool cleaning are mixes of several chemicals, and none is pure calcium hypochlorite !!

I live in Spain and I bought Calcium Hypochlorite in February. I spent a whole week locating the right product, contacting the manufacturers to check the composition. I guess in summer it would be easier to find it in shops but I was able to locate an online shop that sold it. I do not think it ships internationally though. I also found a few online shops in the UK but none wanted to ship the product abroad.

The products I found on malls, garden section, had different chemicals. What I found is that Calcium Hypochlorite is a cheap product used to 'shock' pools, that is, to quickly condition the water, but the chemical turns into salts in a couple of hours, or it evaporates. Other more modern (and more expensive) products stay in the water longer and so they are better suited for pools.

[haibane]

Posted by David1 (here)
For example, in France, where I am now, I can't find pure Calcium Hypochlorite in shops !!
All products for water pool cleaning are mixes of several chemicals, and none is pure calcium hypochlorite !!

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ull=1#post9799 - ie THIS thread, only ONE PAGE back ...

[Swami]

Posted by david1 (here)
@swami:
I am using only mms 1, the sodium chlorite that we activate with citric acid.
Being healthy since using mms 1, i never needed to buy mms 2, so i have no personal experience at buying some.

Looking at your pictures, yes it is written calcium hypochlorite, so it is the right product !
After that being said, being in your place, i would check if it is a pure one.

Of course people swim in the water pool, so any product used in swiming pool must be food grade (pure enough), because it happens that swimers ingest some of the treated water.
So i think pool products can be ingested and used.

But be sure that it is only calcium hypochlorite before using it. Call the manufacturer and tell us what he said.

For example, in france, where i am now, i can't find pure calcium hypochlorite in shops !!
All products for water pool cleaning are mixes of several chemicals, and none is pure calcium hypochlorite !!

Hope this helps,
david

ps: You can read here that jim uses products for swiming pools, so it seems ok with yours
http://jimhumble.biz/biz-mms2intro-eng.htm

Thank you Sir, this answer gave me a good feeling......

[samvado]

A relatively simple test would be a dark-field bloodtest. You take a sample from a healthy person and prepare it for DF. Then you take pictures in intervals of hours, at the most days.
then you give that same person MMS and take blood again, same procedure.

If the sample 1 lives longer it aint good, if 2 lives longer its good, if both live the same at least its not harmfull and may be good.

a group of about 40 people would be needed to get relevant results.

[samvado]

Posted by Swami (here)
Thank you Sir, this answer gave me a good feeling......

It shouldnt:

swimming pool poisons

[Swami]

Posted by samvado (here)
It shouldnt:

swimming pool poisons

Last line Sam.......
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ull=1#post9874

[Baron]

Sam,

Your instincts are right on this subject.

I'm just waiting on a return telephone call and email from an old friend of mine from uni, who is a specialist Doctor MD of tropical diseases working in Africa.
Never guess where? Pure chance! Malawi! OH I cannot wait to tell the rest of the story but I must be patient! LOL...stay tuned! Humble was discussed!

So I wont divulge much more this minute but we have him snared! This MMS1 MMS2 is a con of the highest order! What Jim Humble calls, as I said in my earlier post MMS1 MMS2 is what use to be used for Malaria and other parasitic diseases! Its not new and its not good either except in small doses for these conditions!

I know myself I have taken it in the jungle many,many years ago!

Another thing that does not add up is what's on Humbles own websites, he states,

"750,000 people who have ordered MMS since 2006"

I remember when it was for sale at $19.99 approx, this site was last edited in 2008 and Not including the book! According to my math would that not make him a multi-millionaire? No wonder he looks so glad and happy with his shiny new false teeth and sun tan! Some people have a god complex, somebody like him could only be revered amongst the ignorant of the third world.

Oh and one other thing most of Africa is now totally resistant to the Malaria treatment "chloroquine" the most widely spread treatment! Now those who are chemists amongst you, who believe Santa is Jim Humble, who delivers your presents, break down this treatment and I wonder what you get?!!! LOL A clue Chlor....????? C102???

I cannot wait to tell you the rest, Humble wont be so humble in handcuffs!

Regards
Baron

[samvado]

Posted by Vidya Moksha (here)
anyway, i read this thread...couple of comments.. first MMS cleared up a long standing skin problem I had.. interestingly i now have another in another location and it started as an open wound so MMS is too painful to use right now, aloe vera is doing ok thankfully..

skin reaction are often to releif the liver/kidneys. They help getting rid of poisons or acids. to treat them with mms can theoreticaly only make it worse.

also the zappers = a friend used one on her arthritic grandfather and he could walk afterwards, for the first time in a long time and she is a great believer in them... she persauded me to buy one, and i carry it still but have never used it... why dont they work? why would the zapper help with arthritis?

the zapper did not help with arthritis (or anything else) : DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND CALL that friend and check if said grandfather is still symptom free. I bet you he is either dead or has arthritis. This disease is known to be very jumpy. you can have bad days and good days. I had arthitis in my right hand before I started using ormus, so I know.

in 2001 I was for quite a while into Hulda. I read her both bestellers cover to cover. I bought a zapper. because I was in india I had AMPLE chance to test it on me and friends. it did not work once. I was always very reserved when it came to her cancer theory (putting it mildly) - but I do know one case who used her methodology and DIED.
of course that does not proof much, but at least goes to show its not always a success as she insists.

if you look at it from a scientific perspective it is 100% rubbish. if she is right all our biology is wrong. if all our biology is wrong all the other interventions based on it would not work.
of course science has gotten a bad rep here. some is deserved, some not.

but you can always do a simple double blind test. find 80 friends with ailments. give 40 a zapper with a broken functionality (but lights still working and making a humming sound) and the other 40 a working sample with NO lights and NO humming. compare the results. I bet you the defunct zapper group has more healings.

[Wood]

Posted by samvado (here)
but you can always do a simple double blind test. find 80 friends with ailments. give 40 a zapper with a broken functionality (but lights still working and making a humming sound) and the other 40 a working sample with NO lights and NO humming. compare the results. I bet you the defunct zapper group has more healings.

Maybe the key is the placebo effect and it is really us healing ourselves, always.

[Swami]

What about the Rife-instrument and the Bob Beck protocol Sam.....?

[samvado]

Posted by Swami (here)
What about the Rife-instrument and the Bob Beck protocol Sam.....?

I once owned 2 rife machines, quite primitive really, frequency generators with handles and pre-programmable sequences.

I did not observe any healings. But I did not use them a lot and only on me and my GF at the time.

also: the REAL rife machine was working with tubes and the reason it worked may have had to do with that fact. I have the intuition that Royal Rife was a benevolent Genius, but I have nothing to proof it. maybe his microscope. if it did what it is said to be doing that alone was a genius invention.

I am sure the AMA did not shoot him down because he was a quack. the AMA as well as the FDA is a mob organizantion. the pharma cartell is the mob.

Hulda lived too long and wasnt sufficiently hassled to have been a real thread. If her claims would have been true she would have been dead or out of business very very much earlier.

[stuart]

hi , rito , I have got the capsules and 70% calcium hypochlorite filled some and have taken the first capsule ,. feelings of more sensitive in limbs slightly uneasy stomache increased body heat bit heady . questions that come to mind are . capsules to big for children . are capsules world wide uniform size . after initial dosage say for a week or two , what would be an on going dose , say one capsule a day .
HAVE bought his book have you? when it arrives will start making mms1 . have bought some mms1 , should arrive soon .
THOUGHTFUL ACTION
My chest is clearing quit quickly now , feel good less unsettled . bowel move almost straight away .
I am feeling more alert .
will keep u updated

[stuart]

`hi end of day two still a little unsettled though a lot of glandular clearing , skin is healing quickly sun spots dissappearing . hunger is greater . lots of inner cleansing . didnt sleep well last night . all in all Ilike what is happening

[lisa]

Posted by Baron (here)
I'm just waiting on a return telephone call and email from an old friend of mine from uni, who is a specialist Doctor MD of tropical diseases working in Africa.
Never guess where? Pure chance! Malawi! OH I cannot wait to tell the rest of the story but I must be patient! LOL...stay tuned! Humble was discussed!

Baron, thanks for your take. I have been holding my breath on your update.
Wow Sam, thanks sharing your findings!

I thought MMS works based on this long MMS thread in PA1 http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4781 and the many recommendations for MMS as one of the few Swine Flu remedies. Thanks for the reality check!

It is odd how many MMS websites Jim Humble has, how there are only a few user testimonials on his main website, how he claims that MMS attack only the bad stuff and almost all bad stuff out there, and how he assertively said that he had not received a single complaint about MMS when 2 out of 9 reviews on his book on Amazon are complaints (one dead and two sick) http://www.amazon.com/Miracle-Minera...ws/1439207356/

I re-read the first third of the reviews on the PA1 thread and looks like the ratio of positive to skeptical review is around 2 to 1. Out of which Peer and Myplanet2 gave a lot of positive endorsement. Peaceandlove provided a lot of MMS info. While a few have tried MMS for quite some time with persistent discomfort (taken as a sign of deep detox at work).

Based on the reviews, the one thing that MMS seems to work is for clearing acne. It does not seem to work for skin fungus removal or cold/flu prevention.

Swanny, looks like you had used MMS for quite some time. I am curious about your current take on MMS, especially in regards to its effect on your friend's cancer. Thanks in advance!

[samvado]

Posted by Baron (here)
Sam,

Your instincts are right on this subject.

I'm just waiting on a return telephone call and email from an old friend of mine

did it ever come? people are piling up to hear what you have to say!

[stuart]

ok day four great discomfort , not sleeping much , doesnt seem to matter limbs skin joints muscles and mind real good form . because of stomache ache I will give it a rest today and resume tomorrow using 1/4 of dose

[stuart]

if people are going to make statements of truth , how about backing it up with some facts and evidence . other wise why say anything