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    Does smoking fall under the NWO changes?
    There have been so many attempts to stop people smoking, increases in tax, increasing campaigns to try and stop people from smoking. Why?
    I do agree with this: people who smoke discriminate against those who do not! Eg. In the workplace a smoker on average goes and has a smoke once every hour for at least 5 to 10 minutes. Here also bosses discriminate against those who do not smoke. Eg. When you stop work and talk to someone you are told to get back to work, when you go away from your post the boss says you should go back to your post and work….
    Does this mean we are all better off smoking in the workplace?
    This equates to about an extra hour non smokers work, or a shorter workday for those who smoke at the expense of those who do not smoke?
    In a restaurant, before smoking bans, did smokers consider those who do not smoke? No
    So in this instance a ban is good, but then it discriminates against smokers!
    But then why do we really have a ban at all? Or should there have been changes in the law so both would be satisfied as smoking is an addiction is it not? A bit like alcohol!
    If we did live in a democratic society smoking should be allowed and not banned, as with anything a solution should be found.
    But we are told it is for our own health??? Should we not have a free choice? Now we are being dictated against, even though non smokers may agree with the ban it is not democratic! This is socialism or NWO is it not?
    Everybody’s body behaves differently and if smoking causes you cancer perhaps smoking is your cancers trigger. Just like for some the sun is, or alcohol. Or the wrong food?
    Where does this dictating stop?
    When will people understand that we in our lives are dictated to, to such a point!
    Should we not find a better solution?
    Governments love this ban as they know you cannot just stop smoking and the tax dollars from this are unbelievable… wake up people…
    Btw, I am a non smoker, and have never smoked… nor do I drink unless on a social basis…

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    interesting how hardening of the arteries and calcification blamed on smoking and colesterol can unofficially be traced to what they put in the water ...

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    According to Laura Knight-Jadczyk smoking contains a drug that helps you " think ".

    Apparently during WWII 85% of the population smoked, so people never really bothered too much about it until airlines started bringing attention to it, c.1985, and started banning smoking on short haul flights to begin with, and from that point there's been a steady demonising of the habit ever since.

    TPTB really don't like people socialising in groups as their free speach cannot be controlled so easily, so the smoking ban in Pubs, cheap supermarket booze available 24 hrs. ( no pub I know opens 24 hrs. ) just encourages Joe public to stay at home and watch telly.
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    Default Re: Smoking - a NWO change?

    There’s a lot that fall under NWO changes


    http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandsty...hopping.health

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    I don't know where you got the 85% of the population smoked during WW11. That has never ever been the case.The amount of women who smoked was negligible and since they make up over 50% of the population. So if 100% of men smoked then that would still only be about 50% of the populace. If the 35% of women had smoked on top of all the men smoking the population would be totally mentally retarded and with a massive proportion of children being deformed and chronically ill. Though having said that the amount of children exposed to smoke in the womb and via second-hand smoke who are deformed or have other underlying health problems such as chronic Asthma and learning disabilities,and if they survive being born the 10.000's of cot deaths having to breathe the smoke and house fires that kill innocent children, is no small matter even today and that's because more young women smoke now than ever before, for some crazy reason! Though men smoking is responsible for most cot deaths!

    As for smoking if they want to smoke and suck in 4000 toxic chemicals that's fine as long as they don't expose anybody else to its toxic poison and filth. They should be responsible for the pollution and ciggies garbage they throw out aka ciggi stumps and ash, not escaping;the poisoning of others.

    One fact that came out last year in one of the major scientific journals was that 99.9% of all violent crimes were committed by smokers, with or without the use of other drugs!

    Smoking is an addiction like any drug taking that makes people do crazy things to justify it that's why smokers always crave to be with other smokers or encourage others to smoke. The makers of cigarettes have modified them since the late 40's that the tobacco is 40x stronger than the natural plant making them even more addictive.

    Smoking has been a culling tool by the powers that be for decades that's why they never banned it. Only today have measures been taken because they cannot really keep getting away with allowing it to kill the innocent.But since we have toxic food to replece this old culling tool those with no disapline will die early anyway.

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    "interesting how hardening of the arteries and calcification blamed on smoking and cholesterol can unofficially be traced to what they put in the water ... "

    Some truth to what's put in the water, however they can be blamed on smoking too.What's interesting here is that fluoride and chlorine they put in water, are also put into the cigarettes.
    The cigarettes also have toxic aspartame in them an artificial sweetener that's basically toxic rat poison that once oxidised turns into formaldehyde! Very good if you want to be mumified!

    Cholesterol is NOT the killer we think it is! Cholesterol is like the repair gel of the body when your arteries get damaged the cholesterol races there and like a filler or spackel fills in the damaged artery so it does not break and you bleed to death! If you cut your yourself cholesterol races to the area to heal you. High cholesterol just means you have damaged arteries and the biggest culprit outside of smoking or in none smokers, is vegetable oils like Canola, rape, saff flower etc.Though NOT Olive oil. Vegetable oils, and like MSG and Aspartmate, which is a neuro toxin is in nearly all processed foods!

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    "According to Laura Knight-Jadczyk smoking contains a drug that helps you " think ".

    If she thinks that then she must be a smoker and she must also be off her head! I have heard only one other person say the same, and that's somebody who is a fraud and a liar. I really did not want to mention his name, but I will have to on this occasion. Bill "con-man" Deagle who lives on fantasy island. He actually said the reason he is so intelligent (I say a mad liar) is because his mother chain smoked throughout her pregnancy! For me that's no intelligence and takes the biscuit of pure stupidity from both mother and son.

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    It would be more correct to say that the current well known scientific evidence on smoking during pregnancy supports the idea that smoking during pregnancy has an overwhelming chance to be related negatively to some malformation of the given fetus's growth into a healthy child and then a healthy adult.

    Thus, it is not realistic to say that Bill Deagle is automatically a deformed and deranged person. The reality is that unless we've done the actual work ourselves or have been directly involved in said situations... our statements are merely a report of something we heard.

    You can make any conclusion you want, just don't come here and force things on me. Use reasonably presented arguments, thank you very much. This is not a rant forum, based on negative emotional casting. That's GLP and ATS, etc.
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    Just on a note: Why is the NWO so concerned about our health? yet building Fema camps? is this so we can die healthy??? or is it so they have more body parts to put in storage? just asking.

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    ¨"Just on a note: Why is the NWO so concerned about our health? yet building Fema camps? is this so we can die healthy??? or is it so they have more body parts to put in storage? just asking."

    I can only take a guess why?? But their modes operandi seems to be to keep one well enough to be a slave consumer for an approximate time, and for one to get ill enough as early as possible to then engage the medical industry to grab as much of your wealth off you, and then you can die.

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    Mod edit, please treat others on this forum with respect, this kind of post is a violation of the forum guidelines that you agreed to
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    "It would be more correct to say that the current well known scientific evidence on smoking during pregnancy supports the idea that smoking during pregnancy has an overwhelming chance to be related negatively to some malformation of the given fetus's growth into a healthy child and then a healthy adult."

    Who the hell are you to tell me what's the more correct way to say something? Get lost Deagle or Deagle shil.
    "Thus, it is not realistic to say that Bill Deagle is automatically a deformed and deranged person. The reality is that unless we've done the actual work ourselves or have been directly involved in said situations... our statements are merely a report of something we heard."

    Don't imply or put words into my past posts that are not there! Typical disinformation artist YOU are!

    "You can make any conclusion you want, just don't come here and force things on me. Use reasonably presented arguments, thank you very much. This is not a rant forum, based on negative emotional casting. That's GLP and ATS, etc. "


    Yes I can make any conclusions I want, and in my case I have done my homework! I have been a member of both forums longer than you sony Jim! You don't know who I am do you? I was not presenting an argument I was putting my point of view based on good information. Oh and the only person who was ranting was YOU! Instead of ranting, and you who want's to prove a point over another; instead of implying use some facts in future! If you don't have any, well you know where to stick your face. Your a typical ill informed jerk.
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    my understanding is that Reptilians can't stand the smell or taste of tobacco -- this may be one reason why the big push against its use

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    Please remember to treat others on this forum with respect, calling another member a jerk etc is a violation of the guidelines,
    I'm sure we are all adult enough to talk calmly with each other when engaging in emotive debates.

    It is better to step away and take some deep breaths or a walk if you have got to the point where one becomes disrespectful to another.

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    Baron;
    Re. post #11;
    Could you turn down the volume a tad?
    You're anti-rant sounds very much like a rant.
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    Quote Posted by Baron (here)
    "It would be more correct to say that the current well known scientific evidence on smoking during pregnancy supports the idea that smoking during pregnancy has an overwhelming chance to be related negatively to some malformation of the given fetus's growth into a healthy child and then a healthy adult."

    Who the hell are you to tell me what's the more correct way to say something? Get lost Deagle or Deagle shil.
    "Thus, it is not realistic to say that Bill Deagle is automatically a deformed and deranged person. The reality is that unless we've done the actual work ourselves or have been directly involved in said situations... our statements are merely a report of something we heard."

    Don't imply or put words into my past posts that are not there! Typical disinformation artist YOU are!

    "You can make any conclusion you want, just don't come here and force things on me. Use reasonably presented arguments, thank you very much. This is not a rant forum, based on negative emotional casting. That's GLP and ATS, etc. "


    Yes I can make any conclusions I want, and in my case I have done my homework! I have been a member of both forums longer than you sony Jim! You don't know who I am do you? I was not presenting an argument I was putting my point of view based on good information. Oh and the only person who was ranting was YOU! Instead of ranting, and you who want's to prove a point over another; instead of implying use some facts in future! If you don't have any, well you know where to stick your face. Your a typical ill informed jerk.
    I'm thinking you don't need any help in hanging yourself.

    Good day to you.
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    Why the bad rant in this post?

    Best to stick to the subject...

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    Smoking is bad for health, that is a fact, anyone who has seen the insides of a dead person who moderatly smoked would know this, it does cause problems for babies in the womb...fact....anyone who has medical knowledge and has seen the effects on smoking in pregnancy knows that the placenta is not healthy. A lot of thought is given to the ptb and how they are all evil, however these people like all in this reality can not be put into little boxes, some are good and some a bad, with all the shades of grey in-between, not every one in positions of authority are out to get us, not all scientists who study issues such as the effect of smoking are corrupt. I for one am pleased that smoking is banned from public indoor places, the rights of those who don't wish to fill their lungs with someone elses habits should be protected, breathing in clean air is a basic human right and need.
    Just my pence worth
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    strange thing is the closer unnatural alchemists are to the smell of tobacco the better they hide their unnatural smell -- that's where you find the worst tobacco smokers

    edit to post -- to clarify that's where you find tobacco smokers with the worst mannerisms, nothing to do with with tobacco. Intention is always essential to understand.

    I personally am a chain smoker and have suffered much in my life. No sense in getting riled up over a little wacky tobacky now is there? :~
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    Ah, the good old days when anti-smoking sentiment wasn't shoved down our throats



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