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    Default Experts think this ancient metal object is part of a 250,000-year-old UFO

    Hello Everyone:
    This article brings an artifact into the public realm that has been around since the '80's
    A very compelling piece of aluminum that is evidence of a race with much more technology that we had at the time of being manufactured.
    There are photos in the link.
    chancy

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    Experts think this ancient metal object is part of a 250,000-year-old UFO

    October 20, 2016

    This ordinary-looking piece of aluminium could actually be proof that aliens are real and have visited Earth, according to experts.

    The piece of metallic aluminium is estimated to be around 250,000 years old - a long time before mankind ever started producing it.

    Builders found the 20cm-long chunk on the shores of the Mures River in Aiud, Romania, about 33 feet underground in 1973, with the details only just surfacing.

    Archeologists enlisted to study the aluminium initially thought it might be the end of an ace, but further study found it was an extremely lightweight metal that had been manufactured.

    Mystery: The object predates when mankind produced aluminium (CEN)

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    Tests showed that the object is made of 12 metals, 90% aluminium, and it was dated by Romanian officials as being 250,000 years old.

    More experts brought in to conduct tests said the dates were far later, ranging between 400 and 80,000 years old - but even at 400 years old it would still be 200 years earlier than when aluminium was first produced.

    The object has concavities that suggest that it was part of a more complex mechanical system - and possibly alien in origin.

    Discovery: Experts are still puzzled as to the origin of the chunk of metal (CEN)

    Gheorghe Cohal, the Deputy Director of the Romanian Ufologists Association, told local media: “Lab tests concluded it is an old UFO fragment given that the substances it comprises cannot be combined with technology available on Earth.”

    Local historian Mihai Wittenberger has tried to claim that the object is actually a metal piece from a World War II German aircraft - but this does not explain the age of the artefact.

    The metal object has now gone on display in the History Museum of Cluj-Napoca with a sign alongside that reads “origin still unknown”.

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    Default Re: Experts think this ancient metal object is part of a 250,000-year-old UFO

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    Default Re: Experts think this ancient metal object is part of a 250,000-year-old UFO

    What I have noticed lately is that most of the online news papers have been
    publishing these type of stories . They always have had them , but they seem
    to be written different somehow ?? Its obviously to do with the web, facebook,
    Ancient Aliens series and the popularity of the subject etc. It would be nice to see
    them genuinely do proper investigations and expose the hidden hand , but that's
    not going to happen soon as most of the media is owned by the corporations...

    Unless they want it too ..... of course . The Annunaki were here 250,000 years
    ago allegedly and so may have others ?



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    MAIL ON LINE ....

    aluminium prove UFOs visited Earth 250,000 years ago?
    •The discovery was made in 1973 but supposedly kept secret at the time
    •Chunk of metal was found alongside two ancient fossils, investigator said
    •Metallic aluminium was not produced by humans until 200 years ago
    •Historians dispute claims that the object is of alien origin and say that it is a part
    from a WWII German fighter plane

    By Libby Plummer For Mailonline

    Published: 16:32, 20 October 2016 | Updated: 12:58, 21 October 2016

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...estigator.html

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    MIRROR....

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-n...object-9086060

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    EXPRESS

    PROOF of ancient UFOs? Experts stunned by 250,000-year-old aluminium



    http://www.express.co.uk/news/scienc...-alien-ancient

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    Investigator claims ‘UFO wreckage’ is evidence aliens visited the Earth 250,000 years ago


    Bizarre finding sparks claims that extraterrestrials touched down on our planet a
    long, long time ago
    by JASPER HAMILL
    20th October 2016, 11:25 am

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/201407...000-years-ago/

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    250,000-year-old artifact: The ultimate evidence of ‘Ancient Astronaut’ technology?

    http://www.ancient-code.com/250000-y...ut-technology/

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    Default Re: Experts think this ancient metal object is part of a 250,000-year-old UFO

    Not saying it is as the ones I see a lot are made of steel but they look exactly like the replacement ends for 988 front end loader with log tongs. These go on the bottom set at the end of the prongs that wear out first by making occasional contact with the ground. Also noted is the bore hole on the sides to pin the ends in place.


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    Here's an interesting vid and illustrates what I was referring to in previous
    post , but I presume the author is speculating and not a dis info site ?
    Its hard to tell with U'tubes and I don't think any of this will happen
    during this election , some interesting points all the same ...........


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    Artwork: The retrorockets should have fired for about 30 seconds

    read more.....

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-37715202
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    Leary to watch anything from secure team's known hoax channel

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    Podesta urged to involve Obama in extraterrestrial disclosure meeting, emails reveal

    By David on 21 October 2016 GMT




    RT NEWS......

    Podesta urged to involve Obama in extraterrestrial disclosure meeting, emails reveal

    Published time: 20 Oct, 2016 22:42
    Edited time: 21 Oct, 2016 07:12



    ‘John Podesta arranged a meeting with astronaut Edgar Mitchell to discuss the US
    government disclosing information to the public on aliens, according to emails leaked
    by WikiLeaks. The meeting was described as a prelude to involving President Barack
    Obama in the discussion.

    “Our government is still operating from outdated beliefs and policies” Mitchell wrote in
    the email from 2014, in which he requested “a conversation with you and President
    Obama regarding the next steps in extraterrestrial disclosure for the benefit of our
    country and our planet.”

    Mitchell, the sixth man to walk on the moon, said the information needed to be disclosed
    to allow humans to achieve “planet sustainability generation energies,” as well exploring
    the cosmos without reverting to “colonialism and destruction” and as a way for the
    government to respectfully regard “the wisdom and intellect of its citizens as we move into space.”’

    Read more: Podesta urged to involve Obama in extraterrestrial disclosure meeting, emails reveal


    https://www.rt.com/viral/363575-pode...-obama-aliens/

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    Quote Leary to watch anything from secure team's known hoax channel
    Yeah there are several like sorcha faal and others , I used it mainly for the meme
    not the actual content , as much of it is over the top. Just ties in with a lot of other
    related articles.....

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    could have something to do with a mention i heard earlier about false artifacts being planted in more recent years to fit a new narrative ,ie false evidence to support a new "aliens were gods " push , angels etc ... there definately appears to be a hidden agenda behind many of these new archeological finds

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    Its easy to say its a part of a German WW11 jet but they should show us
    where it is on the Jet.....


    Messerschnmitt ME 262



    http://de.academic.ru/dic.nsf/dewiki/936844


    From a model site....



    http://community.thefoundry.co.uk/di...px?f=9&t=29820







    http://www.largescaleplanes.com/revi...ew.php?rid=779
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    landing gear of apollo capsule ?


    coould be anything, looks part of a hydraulicy operated fitting/footing

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    Default Re: Experts think this ancient metal object is part of a 250,000-year-old UFO

    Please read the article using google translate.
    http://www.asfanufo.ro/index.php/opi...niu-de-la-aiud

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    Here is the article on the site mentioned above by EFO:

    Quote A strange aluminium shoe

    In 1973, in Romania, in the heart of Transylvania, near the town Aiud, workers extracting sand from a quarry not far from the river Mures, found, at the bottom of the excavated bank, a strange aluminum object whose properties have not been explained.

    There were three hard bodies, „packaged” like in a shell of hardened sand. They had stood a long, long time beneath that – almost 10 meters thick – layer, deposited over time overhead.

    A specialist was called urgently to the sand career to identify the bodies. In two of them he found fossil bones; and in the third, something that seemed, by the shape and weight to be a stone ax that would be served primitive man in killing the animal whose bones were found together. For a proper study, the three items were sent to the History Museum at the city of Cluj-Napoca.

    Carefully removing the surrounding petrified sand layers, the specialists found a piece of a leg bone and a piece of tooth, both of a young mastodon, and a totally unknown object, which was not in any case an ax and was not even from stone: it was metal! Detailed analysis has had to offer but more interesting surprises.

    The object, about 20 centimeters long, 12.5 centimeters wide and about 7 centimeters thick, had two cylindrical holes, of different diameters, so that the narrow hole penetrates the object toward the base of the larger hole in a perpendicular way. Moreover, the larger hole had in its lower part a chamber as for assembling a rounded axle head in it. On its lower surface and in sides the object showed traces of repeated blows, some of which were strong. All details suggested that it was once part of a bigger device and was lost for one reason or another, in the river bed.

    Mastodons, related to elephants, lived from 34 million years ago and disappeared 11 000 years ago. Some estimates said that the age of the bones found was about one million years.

    Repeated metallographic analyzes made with the strange object raised further questions. The bulletin issued by ICPMMN Research Center (in Magurele, near Bucharest) shows that the metal piece was actually a complex alloy composed of 12 different elements, among which the main constituent was the aluminum, in a proportion of about 80%.

    A very unusual feature was the existence of an anomalous thick layer of aluminum oxide on the entire surface of the object. It is known that this metal oxidizes very hardly in depth, usually the first thin oxide surface layer limits the penetration of oxidation phenomena in the metallic body. The most plausible explanation seems to be, from this point of view, that the object is very old... But the aluminum was discovered in the laboratory in 1825 by Oersted, and the industrial production was started only about 1883... in a century it was virtually impossible to produce an oxide layer so thick.

    Moreover, a specialist from Bucharest who attended repeatedly the metallographic analysis wrote: "it’s puzzling but the aluminum has an aging structure, and the alloyed elements regained partly their structures too”. Of qualified people who saw that piece (archaeologists, university professors, engineers), no one was able to identify the object or to find a resemblance to a human product. The exception was a specialist in aviation engineering who suggested that the object might be a landing foot of a small aircraft.


    Was someone in prehistoric times, flying through those places in Transylvania, landing on the banks of a river, and losing one of its supporting pieces?

    The information above was taken from the book of Florin Gheorghita “Enigme in Galaxie” (Enigmas in the Galaxy). A team, which included members ASFAN George Cohal, and Ion Nutu, as well as Cristian Pompei, of the publication “Lumea Misterelor” (The World of Mysteries) found the object in the deposits of the National History Museum of Transylvania in Cluj-Napoca in May 2007. Museum director: Ms. Viorica Crisan, along with Ms. Zoia Maxim, offered all the necessary clarifications, including copies of newspapers and some reviews on the Internet. Unfortunately, multiple causes, among them because the museum was under renovation, they could not submit any original documents or reports of analysis performed in the '70s. Previously, the object was the star of an exhibition in the museum but it was withdrawn after a while by the administration of that time of the museum. The same management refused the request to show the object in an “ancient aliens” exhibition in Germany, organized by Erich von Daniken.

    It's been said on this occasion that some experts estimated, by evaluating the aluminum oxide layer over a millimeter thick, that the object discovered near Aiud could have a fantastic age of 250 000 years!
    At the request of the Cohal-Nutu-Pompei research team, the „aluminum heel” was brought ​​by Ms. Zoia Maxim to Bucharest, for new analyses at Magurele platform. Here two sets of analyzes were accomplished, by two different methods. At the National Institute of Research and Development for Physics and Nuclear Engineering, Department Archaeometallurgy, the results were the following: Aluminium - 80.5%, tin - 6.5%, copper - 6% Silicon - 4% Zinc - 2%, Lead - 0.5% Antimony - 0.5%, in addition were highlighted traces of silver, nickel, manganese and iron. The second, non-destructive, analysis of a fragment of the Aiud object, accomplished in the Laboratory of the Faculty of Physical Metallography, revealed 97.6% aluminum, 2.4% tin and less than 1% other elements. Both analyses amazed the experts, because they were convinced that it is a metallurgical impossibility! Aluminum is not alloying with tin!


    In September 2007, George Cohal and Cristian Pompei were able to meet in Iasi, Mr. Florin Gheorghita, who has the first to publish the story of the aluminum object. Among other things, he said that in those years 70, a rather big sample of the „heel” was taken and sent somewhere in Switzerland for analyzes, and the results should be in the Cluj-Napoca museum. Florin Gheorghita later sent to the two persons above copies of the original reports of the analyses made ​​in Romania. We summarize below the results:

    The first analysis was made by the Centre for Research and Design for radioactive metals - Magurele – Bucharest. The Analysis Report no.334 of the sample symbol A-1975-CNST-Bucharest shows: Al - 74.17%, Cu - 4.62%, Zn - 1.81% Pb - 0.11% Sn - 0.33% Ni - 0, 0024% Bi - 0.0003% Ag - 0.0002%, Co - 0.0023% Cd - 0.11% Zr - 0.20%. Ga - trace and Si - present. Some other elements were also present. The report is signed by Section chief, Dr.eng. Ion Niederkorn, eng. St. Neciu, and senior researcher M. Gradin.

    The second analysis, made by the same Centre, has the Analysis Report no.380, the sample symbol NK-2, brought by Dr.eng. Ion Niederkorn, shows: Al - 92.74%, Si - 2.84%, Cu - 6.2%, Zn - 0.95% Pb - 0.41% Sn - 0.33% Ni - 0.002% Bi - 0.0003, Ag - 0.0002%, Co - 0,002% Cd - 0.055, Zr - 0.20%.

    Engineers at “Alro” of Slatina, one of the biggest aluminium companies in Romania and in Europe, examining these analysis reports, made in the '70s, could not identify similar aluminum alloys produced in the world.

    As one can easily see, there are considerable differences between the reports. Could it be because of the aging of the metal alloy? What if the flatteningof the vertical cylindrical hole in the back of the object was due to a battle between the mastodon (one million years old) and a "robot”, plucking the landing sole and provoking death of mastodon? Can anyone say how it behaves an alloy over such a period of time?

    We have indications that other such objects have been found in our country, often by chance, but because their presence in that place could not be explained, they were ignored, discarded or destroyed. Who was their manufacturer? Was it an earthly civilization now disappeared? Or, why not, some spatial or temporal travelers?

    George Cohal

    This artifact was found in the Transylvanian Region... famous for the Bucegi Mountains.... often considered as the true cradle of civilization....whispered of having a working stargate...siezed by the US military some years ago... just sayin'.
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    The smaller front loader have smaller "shoes" (piece of metal in question) that fit over the end of the tong...
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    Default Re: Experts think this ancient metal object is part of a 250,000-year-old UFO

    Quote Posted by MorningSong (here)
    Here is the article on the site mentioned above by EFO:
    ...
    This artifact was found in the Transylvanian Region... famous for the Bucegi Mountains.... often considered as the true cradle of civilization....whispered of having a working stargate...siezed by the US military some years ago... just sayin'.
    On topic: Thank you MorningSong for translated article.A very well done job.

    Off topic: chancy please accept my apologize for a short deviation from thread's subject,but as MorningSong bring forward the Bucegi Mountains please read this story from this web site which have many interesting informations as well as true stories (which deserved to be detailed) and many connections world wide.

    Some images from the story:







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    Taking a jab at the artifact in question, it looks to be part of some sort of opening and closing panel... you can see perfect holes at one end that look like a pin should sleeve through... just my opinion, it could be anything or nothing...
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    The TV show UFO Hunters (Bill Birnes?) showcased an object made of aluminum. The object was found after witness to a dramatic UFO encounter. It's been a while, but it seems the object was seen being ejected, like refuse or spent fuel, from the craft. Experts determined the object was aluminum with alloys not used on Earth.
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    yes the famous Bob White UFO trace evidence case. One that is truly amazing and deserves to be promoted...That metal was so unique and created its own radiation pattern in film as well as having aluminum and other unique elements in association.

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